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#1: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 06:08:40 by Charles Ulrich

Does anyone know the exact recording date or broadcast date of Co de
Kloet's 1993 interview with Mark Volman (transcribed at
&lt;<a href="http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html" target="_blank">http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html</a>&gt;)?

Also, how should I refer to the radio station?

--Charles

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#2: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 11:00:42 by tactic

think it was september 18
not sure it was 93 though

co recorded for VPRO radio
or for radio 4fm/nps

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&gt; Does anyone know the exact recording date or broadcast date of Co de
&gt; Kloet's 1993 interview with Mark Volman (transcribed at
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html" target="_blank">http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html</a>&gt;)?
&gt;
&gt; Also, how should I refer to the radio station?
&gt;
&gt; --Charles

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#3: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 11:06:08 by tactic

correction on that
my cassette cover says
vpro 6-12-1993

somewhere else it says 6-12-96

yellow shark was aired 18/9/92

a hell i don't remember

mail Co and ask him

this is the site
<a href="http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html" target="_blank">http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html</a>

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&gt; Does anyone know the exact recording date or broadcast date of Co de
&gt; Kloet's 1993 interview with Mark Volman (transcribed at
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html" target="_blank">http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html</a>&gt;)?
&gt;
&gt; Also, how should I refer to the radio station?
&gt;
&gt; --Charles

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#4: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 13:10:27 by Bill

In article &lt;dls6ah$hl7$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news3.zwoll1.ov.home.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;news3.zwoll1.ov.home.nl</a>&gt;,
&quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; correction on that
&gt; my cassette cover says
&gt; vpro 6-12-1993
&gt;
&gt; somewhere else it says 6-12-96
&gt;
&gt; yellow shark was aired 18/9/92
&gt;
&gt; a hell i don't remember
&gt;
&gt; mail Co and ask him
&gt;
&gt; this is the site
&gt; <a href="http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html" target="_blank">http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html</a>

I'm guessing that it was played on 6-12-93, See also following comment
on web page -
[TAL: That's Mark alright, with Co de Kloet, in the Fall of 1993. It
was part of the FZ Memorial program, Supplement, December 93. You can
find lots of audio from these interviews over at Co's website,
www.nps.nl/4fm.]
but not recorded on that date, since there are no 'I miss Frank'
comments one would expect.

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#5: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 13:12:11 by tactic

i believe that this is true
6/12/93

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&gt; &quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; correction on that
&gt; &gt; my cassette cover says
&gt; &gt; vpro 6-12-1993
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; somewhere else it says 6-12-96
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; yellow shark was aired 18/9/92
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; a hell i don't remember
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; mail Co and ask him
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; this is the site
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html" target="_blank">http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html</a>
&gt;
&gt; I'm guessing that it was played on 6-12-93, See also following comment
&gt; on web page -
&gt; [TAL: That's Mark alright, with Co de Kloet, in the Fall of 1993. It
&gt; was part of the FZ Memorial program, Supplement, December 93. You can
&gt; find lots of audio from these interviews over at Co's website,
&gt; www.nps.nl/4fm.]
&gt; but not recorded on that date, since there are no 'I miss Frank'
&gt; comments one would expect.

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#6: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 13:18:05 by tactic

radio 4
NOS
'nieuwe maandag'

a=the station
b=the broadcaster
c=the program title

date 6/12/93

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&gt; &quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; correction on that
&gt; &gt; my cassette cover says
&gt; &gt; vpro 6-12-1993
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; somewhere else it says 6-12-96
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; yellow shark was aired 18/9/92
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; a hell i don't remember
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; mail Co and ask him
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; this is the site
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html" target="_blank">http://www.omroep.nl/nps/output/4fm.html</a>
&gt;
&gt; I'm guessing that it was played on 6-12-93, See also following comment
&gt; on web page -
&gt; [TAL: That's Mark alright, with Co de Kloet, in the Fall of 1993. It
&gt; was part of the FZ Memorial program, Supplement, December 93. You can
&gt; find lots of audio from these interviews over at Co's website,
&gt; www.nps.nl/4fm.]
&gt; but not recorded on that date, since there are no 'I miss Frank'
&gt; comments one would expect.

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#7: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 14:39:47 by tactic

the host of the memorial show says:

first interview was made in '90 NYC with mark and howie,

second interview(the one about PlaygrPsyc) was made &quot;two months ago&quot; in
sproutin wings LA,...so that would be oktober '93

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&gt; Does anyone know the exact recording date or broadcast date of Co de
&gt; Kloet's 1993 interview with Mark Volman (transcribed at
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html" target="_blank">http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/misc/interview2.html</a>&gt;)?
&gt;
&gt; Also, how should I refer to the radio station?
&gt;
&gt; --Charles

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#8: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 18:28:41 by Charles Ulrich

In article &lt;dlse21$251$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nl</a>&gt;,
&quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; radio 4
&gt; NOS
&gt; 'nieuwe maandag'
&gt;
&gt; a=the station
&gt; b=the broadcaster
&gt; c=the program title
&gt;
&gt; date 6/12/93

Thanks for the information.

So was &quot;Supplement&quot; not the title of Co de Kloet's program? Or was this
interview broadcast on a different program?

Do you feel that it's necessary to cite both the station and the
broadcaster? If not, which one should I cite?

--Charles

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#9: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 18:40:02 by tactic

many broadcasters cast broad on radio 4
i think this has been explained before



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&gt; &quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; radio 4
&gt; &gt; NOS
&gt; &gt; 'nieuwe maandag'
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; a=the station
&gt; &gt; b=the broadcaster
&gt; &gt; c=the program title
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; date 6/12/93
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for the information.
&gt;
&gt; So was &quot;Supplement&quot; not the title of Co de Kloet's program? Or was this
&gt; interview broadcast on a different program?

it was



&gt;
&gt; Do you feel that it's necessary to cite both the station and the
&gt; broadcaster?

yes
cite
&quot;radio4, NOS, nieuwe maandag&quot;

If not, which one should I cite?
&gt;
&gt; --Charles

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#10: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-21 20:45:53 by Charles Ulrich

In article &lt;dlt0th$fdq$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news2.zwoll1.ov.home.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;news2.zwoll1.ov.home.nl</a>&gt;,
&quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; many broadcasters cast broad on radio 4
&gt; i think this has been explained before

It was indeed. I remembered the explanation of the situation, but not
the advice about what to cite. Looking back, I see that Desaab
recommended citing both the broadcaster and the station, as you have.

&gt; &gt; Do you feel that it's necessary to cite both the station and the
&gt; &gt; broadcaster?
&gt;
&gt; yes
&gt; cite
&gt; &quot;radio4, NOS, nieuwe maandag&quot;

Thanks for your help.

--Charles

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#11: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-22 00:33:07 by tactic

y w

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&gt; &quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; many broadcasters cast broad on radio 4
&gt; &gt; i think this has been explained before
&gt;
&gt; It was indeed. I remembered the explanation of the situation, but not
&gt; the advice about what to cite. Looking back, I see that Desaab
&gt; recommended citing both the broadcaster and the station, as you have.
&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Do you feel that it's necessary to cite both the station and the
&gt; &gt; &gt; broadcaster?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; yes
&gt; &gt; cite
&gt; &gt; &quot;radio4, NOS, nieuwe maandag&quot;
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for your help.
&gt;
&gt; --Charles

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#12: Re: Co de Kloet's interview with Mark Volman

Posted on 2005-11-27 19:14:40 by hans hendriks

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:ulrich-15C9B5.09283921112005&#64;shawnews" target="_blank">ulrich-15C9B5.09283921112005&#64;shawnews</a>&gt;,
Charles Ulrich &lt;<a href="mailto:ulrich&#64;sfu.ca" target="_blank">ulrich&#64;sfu.ca</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; In article &lt;dlse21$251$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nl</a>&gt;,
&gt; &quot;tactic&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3908709&#64;4987909.cm" target="_blank">3908709&#64;4987909.cm</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; radio 4
&gt; &gt; NOS
&gt; &gt; 'nieuwe maandag'
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; a=the station
&gt; &gt; b=the broadcaster
&gt; &gt; c=the program title
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; date 6/12/93
&gt;
&gt; Thanks for the information.
&gt;
&gt; So was &quot;Supplement&quot; not the title of Co de Kloet's program? Or was this
&gt; interview broadcast on a different program?
&gt;
Supplement was indeed another program title. Co de Kloet made many
different programs over the years with one thing in common, a lot of
attention for all things Zappa.

hanzo

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