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#1: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 05:07:25 by TT Arvind

Comrades,

Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 15 Jul 2006 04:29:37 GMT and ending at
22 Jul 2006 02:59:40 GMT.

Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
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Posts Subject
----- -------

61 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI "Of Maeglin"
35 AFT/RABT Titles Update
27 IMPORTANT
26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was: COTW:
Silm ChXVI "Of Maeglin"]
23 The Seriosity of Balrogs
22 Charles Williams (was Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update)
21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was: COTW:=20
Silm ChXVI "Of Maeglin"]
15 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
14 The 2006 Who's Who of AFT/RABT
10 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was: COTW: =20
Silm ChXVI "Of Maeglin"]

These threads accounted for 71.3% of all articles.

Top 10 Threads by Volume
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Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------

198.5 ( 95.4/100.1/ 57.1) 61 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI "Of=20
Maeglin"
151.9 ( 1.6/150.4/150.4) 1 Man, Mr. bush Jr. sure is wicked=20
evil eh?
151.9 ( 1.5/150.4/150.4) 1 American soldiers are weak and=20
cowardly - Here's the proof!
78.2 ( 51.6/ 26.1/ 9.7) 35 AFT/RABT Titles Update
77.2 ( 49.6/ 26.8/ 13.6) 26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the=20
Church Door? [was: COTW:
Silm ChXVI "Of Maeglin"]
65.9 ( 35.3/ 29.1/ 13.4) 22 Charles Williams (was Re: AFT/RABT=20
Titles Update)
55.4 ( 37.2/ 18.0/ 7.1) 21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the=20
Church Door? [was: COTW: Silm ChXVI "Of Maeglin"]
49.7 ( 32.7/ 16.6/ 8.0) 27 IMPORTANT
44.2 ( 29.3/ 14.4/ 5.5) 23 The Seriosity of Balrogs
43.2 ( 30.9/ 12.3/ 4.7) 15 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the=20
Church Door?

These threads accounted for 75.1% of the total volume.

17 threads (34%) had at least five posts.

Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
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(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------

30 72.6 ( 43.9/ 27.9/ 17.6) "Christopher Kreuzer"=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
24 72.1 ( 50.3/ 21.8/ 10.2) Flame of the West=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org" target="_blank">jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org</a>&gt;
23 56.1 ( 32.3/ 23.8/ 11.9) &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
22 46.6 ( 31.3/ 15.3/ 3.3) Een Wilde Ier=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie" target="_blank">maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie</a>&gt;
22 49.6 ( 30.5/ 19.0/ 6.8) &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
21 52.8 ( 35.4/ 17.3/ 6.8) Derek Broughton=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
21 39.7 ( 29.3/ 10.4/ 5.4) TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
19 94.3 ( 27.9/ 62.0/ 44.6) Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
15 38.6 ( 27.5/ 11.1/ 2.7) &quot;Count Menelvagor&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com" target="_blank">Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com</a>&gt;
14 34.7 ( 24.5/ 10.2/ 4.4) &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 59.3% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
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Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------

151.9 ( 1.6/150.4/150.4) 1 Fred Derf &lt;noemailyet111112
@hotmail.com&gt;
151.9 ( 1.5/150.4/150.4) 1 Free World Leader &lt;noemailyet1111
@hotmail.com&gt;
94.3 ( 27.9/ 62.0/ 44.6) 19 Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
72.6 ( 43.9/ 27.9/ 17.6) 30 &quot;Christopher Kreuzer&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
72.1 ( 50.3/ 21.8/ 10.2) 24 Flame of the West=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org" target="_blank">jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org</a>&gt;
56.1 ( 32.3/ 23.8/ 11.9) 23 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
52.8 ( 35.4/ 17.3/ 6.8) 21 Derek Broughton=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
49.6 ( 30.5/ 19.0/ 6.8) 22 &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
46.6 ( 31.3/ 15.3/ 3.3) 22 Een Wilde Ier=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie" target="_blank">maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie</a>&gt;
39.7 ( 29.3/ 10.4/ 5.4) 21 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 64.6% of the total volume.

Top 10 Posters by Volume of Original Content (min. five posts)
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Posts orig Address
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19 44.6 Troels Forchhammer &lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
30 17.6 &quot;Christopher Kreuzer&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
23 11.9 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
24 10.2 Flame of the West &lt;<a href="mailto:jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org" target="_blank">jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org</a>&gt;
12 8.8 &quot;John W. Kennedy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net</a>&gt;
9 7.1 Dirk Thierbach &lt;<a href="mailto:dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de" target="_blank">dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de</a>&gt;
21 6.8 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
22 6.8 &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
21 5.4 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
14 4.4 &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 25.4% of the original volume.

Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
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OCR orig / body Posts Address
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0.719 ( 44.6 / 62.0) 19 Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
0.630 ( 17.6 / 27.9) 30 &quot;Christopher Kreuzer&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
0.606 ( 4.1 / 6.8) 14 &quot;Phlip&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:phlipcpp&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">phlipcpp&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt;
0.575 ( 8.8 / 15.4) 12 &quot;John W. Kennedy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net</a>&gt;
0.522 ( 5.4 / 10.4) 21 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.520 ( 7.1 / 13.6) 9 Dirk Thierbach=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de" target="_blank">dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de</a>&gt;
0.499 ( 11.9 / 23.8) 23 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
0.468 ( 10.2 / 21.8) 24 Flame of the West=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org" target="_blank">jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org</a>&gt;
0.432 ( 4.4 / 10.2) 14 &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.394 ( 6.8 / 17.3) 21 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D

(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------

0.432 ( 4.4 / 10.2) 14 &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.394 ( 6.8 / 17.3) 21 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
0.392 ( 1.2 / 3.1) 7 Tamf Moo &lt;<a href="mailto:liddlelellow&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">liddlelellow&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt;
0.358 ( 6.8 / 19.0) 22 &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
0.300 ( 2.9 / 9.5) 8 Huan the hound=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:huanthehound&#64;netscape.net" target="_blank">huanthehound&#64;netscape.net</a>&gt;
0.291 ( 0.8 / 2.9) 6 Morgoth's Curse &lt;morgothscurse2002
@nospam.yahoo.com&gt;
0.262 ( 3.8 / 14.4) 11 Larry Swain &lt;<a href="mailto:theswain&#64;operamail.com" target="_blank">theswain&#64;operamail.com</a>&gt;
0.260 ( 1.7 / 6.4) 9 &quot;Pseudonymus al-Faqha'ter III&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:pseudonimofaqhater&#64;yahoo.com.br" target="_blank">pseudonimofaqhater&#64;yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;
0.245 ( 2.7 / 11.1) 15 &quot;Count Menelvagor&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com" target="_blank">Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com</a>&gt;
0.216 ( 3.3 / 15.3) 22 Een Wilde Ier &lt;<a href="mailto:maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie" target="_blank">maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie</a>&gt;

18 posters (29%) had at least five posts.

Totals
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Posters: 61
Articles: 356 (113 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 49
Volume generated: 1220.1 kb
- headers: 555.0 kb (6,921 lines)
- bodies: 654.3 kb (17,531 lines)
- original: 487.9 kb (13,767 lines)
- signatures: 10.5 kb (403 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.746

Averages
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Posts per poster: 5.8
median: 2 posts
Posts per thread: 7.3
median: 3 posts
Message size: 3509.6 bytes
- header: 1596.4 bytes (19.4 lines)
- body: 1881.9 bytes (49.2 lines)
- original: 1403.3 bytes (38.7 lines)
- signature: 30.2 bytes (1.1 lines)

Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
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Articles Newsgroup
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275 rec.arts.books.tolkien
8 alt.books.inklings
1 rec.org.mensa
1 alt.fan
1 soc.culture.cuba
1 can.politics
1 alt.sci.physics
1 talk.politics.mideast
1 soc.culture.syria
1 sci.logic


regards,

Arvind

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#2: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 05:09:57 by TT Arvind

Wes =F0u TT Arvind hal!

&gt; Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts

Again, a week of remarkably on-topic-ish threads. Although, of course,=20
what those innocent-looking subjects conceal within is another story.

I also notice that the 5-post limit on OCR is getting dire, with top=20
and bottom lists regularly overlapping. I'll rework the script as soon=20
as I have time.

--=20
Arvind

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#3: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 05:27:15 by TT Arvind

Comrades,

Statistics revised to set the limit for OCR downwards to three from=20
five, and to eliminate two huge spam posts from the posts crunched. Is=20
there a preference for this version?


Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 15 Jul 2006 04:29:37 GMT and ending at
22 Jul 2006 02:59:40 GMT.

Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Posts Subject
----- -------

61 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;
35 AFT/RABT Titles Update
27 IMPORTANT
26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was: COTW:
Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
23 The Seriosity of Balrogs
22 Charles Williams (was Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update)
21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was: COTW:=20
Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
15 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
14 The 2006 Who's Who of AFT/RABT
10 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was: COTW: =20
Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]

These threads accounted for 71.8% of all articles.

Top 10 Threads by Volume
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(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------

198.5 ( 95.4/100.1/ 57.1) 61 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI &quot;Of=20
Maeglin&quot;
78.2 ( 51.6/ 26.1/ 9.7) 35 AFT/RABT Titles Update
77.2 ( 49.6/ 26.8/ 13.6) 26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the=20
Church Door? [was: COTW:
Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
65.9 ( 35.3/ 29.1/ 13.4) 22 Charles Williams (was Re: AFT/RABT=20
Titles Update)
55.4 ( 37.2/ 18.0/ 7.1) 21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the=20
Church Door? [was: COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
49.7 ( 32.7/ 16.6/ 8.0) 27 IMPORTANT
44.2 ( 29.3/ 14.4/ 5.5) 23 The Seriosity of Balrogs
43.2 ( 30.9/ 12.3/ 4.7) 15 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the=20
Church Door?
41.8 ( 13.1/ 27.6/ 23.4) 10 Tolkien websites (top 20)
30.0 ( 21.7/ 7.8/ 3.7) 14 The 2006 Who's Who of AFT/RABT

These threads accounted for 74.7% of the total volume.

25 threads (53%) had at least three posts.

Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
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30 72.6 ( 43.9/ 27.9/ 17.6) &quot;Christopher Kreuzer&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
24 72.1 ( 50.3/ 21.8/ 10.2) Flame of the West=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org" target="_blank">jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org</a>&gt;
23 56.1 ( 32.3/ 23.8/ 11.9) &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
22 46.6 ( 31.3/ 15.3/ 3.3) Een Wilde Ier=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie" target="_blank">maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie</a>&gt;
22 49.6 ( 30.5/ 19.0/ 6.8) &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
21 52.8 ( 35.4/ 17.3/ 6.8) Derek Broughton=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
21 39.7 ( 29.3/ 10.4/ 5.4) TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
19 94.3 ( 27.9/ 62.0/ 44.6) Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
15 38.6 ( 27.5/ 11.1/ 2.7) &quot;Count Menelvagor&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com" target="_blank">Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com</a>&gt;
14 34.7 ( 24.5/ 10.2/ 4.4) &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 59.6% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
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94.3 ( 27.9/ 62.0/ 44.6) 19 Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
72.6 ( 43.9/ 27.9/ 17.6) 30 &quot;Christopher Kreuzer&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
72.1 ( 50.3/ 21.8/ 10.2) 24 Flame of the West=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org" target="_blank">jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org</a>&gt;
56.1 ( 32.3/ 23.8/ 11.9) 23 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
52.8 ( 35.4/ 17.3/ 6.8) 21 Derek Broughton=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
49.6 ( 30.5/ 19.0/ 6.8) 22 &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
46.6 ( 31.3/ 15.3/ 3.3) 22 Een Wilde Ier=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie" target="_blank">maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie</a>&gt;
39.7 ( 29.3/ 10.4/ 5.4) 21 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
38.6 ( 27.5/ 11.1/ 2.7) 15 &quot;Count Menelvagor&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com" target="_blank">Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com</a>&gt;
35.9 ( 18.3/ 15.4/ 8.8) 12 &quot;John W. Kennedy&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 60.9% of the total volume.

Top 10 Posters by Volume of Original Content (min. three posts)
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

(kb)
Posts orig Address
----- ----- -------

19 44.6 Troels Forchhammer &lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
30 17.6 &quot;Christopher Kreuzer&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
23 11.9 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
24 10.2 Flame of the West &lt;<a href="mailto:jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org" target="_blank">jerry&#64;solinasNOSPAM.org</a>&gt;
12 8.8 &quot;John W. Kennedy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net</a>&gt;
9 7.1 Dirk Thierbach &lt;<a href="mailto:dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de" target="_blank">dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de</a>&gt;
21 6.8 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
22 6.8 &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
21 5.4 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
3 5.2 &quot;Hyarion&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:hyarion&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">hyarion&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 66.5% of the original volume.

Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D

(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------

0.860 ( 5.2 / 6.0) 3 &quot;Hyarion&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:hyarion&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">hyarion&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt;
0.815 ( 2.2 / 2.7) 3 &quot;Laurie Forbes&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:moc.rr.eniam&#64;1sebrofr" target="_blank">moc.rr.eniam&#64;1sebrofr</a>&gt;
0.752 ( 1.9 / 2.5) 3 Odysseus &lt;<a href="mailto:odysseus1479-at&#64;yahoo-dot.ca" target="_blank">odysseus1479-at&#64;yahoo-dot.ca</a>&gt;
0.719 ( 44.6 / 62.0) 19 Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
0.675 ( 1.0 / 1.5) 4 Harold Marx Brzeznski=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:brzeznski&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">brzeznski&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt;
0.630 ( 17.6 / 27.9) 30 &quot;Christopher Kreuzer&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt;
0.606 ( 4.1 / 6.8) 14 &quot;Phlip&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:phlipcpp&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">phlipcpp&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt;
0.575 ( 8.8 / 15.4) 12 &quot;John W. Kennedy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net" target="_blank">jwkenne&#64;attglobal.net</a>&gt;
0.522 ( 5.4 / 10.4) 21 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.520 ( 7.1 / 13.6) 9 Dirk Thierbach=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de" target="_blank">dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de</a>&gt;

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D

(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------

0.394 ( 6.8 / 17.3) 21 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
0.392 ( 1.2 / 3.1) 7 Tamf Moo &lt;<a href="mailto:liddlelellow&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">liddlelellow&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt;
0.358 ( 6.8 / 19.0) 22 &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;
0.355 ( 0.9 / 2.5) 3 <a href="mailto:stephen&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">stephen&#64;nomail.com</a>
0.300 ( 2.9 / 9.5) 8 Huan the hound=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:huanthehound&#64;netscape.net" target="_blank">huanthehound&#64;netscape.net</a>&gt;
0.291 ( 0.8 / 2.9) 6 Morgoth's Curse &lt;morgothscurse2002
@nospam.yahoo.com&gt;
0.262 ( 3.8 / 14.4) 11 Larry Swain &lt;<a href="mailto:theswain&#64;operamail.com" target="_blank">theswain&#64;operamail.com</a>&gt;
0.260 ( 1.7 / 6.4) 9 &quot;Pseudonymus al-Faqha'ter III&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:pseudonimofaqhater&#64;yahoo.com.br" target="_blank">pseudonimofaqhater&#64;yahoo.com.br</a>&gt;
0.245 ( 2.7 / 11.1) 15 &quot;Count Menelvagor&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com" target="_blank">Menelvagor&#64;mailandnews.com</a>&gt;
0.216 ( 3.3 / 15.3) 22 Een Wilde Ier &lt;<a href="mailto:maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie" target="_blank">maoltuile&#64;utvinternet.ie</a>&gt;

26 posters (44%) had at least three posts.

Totals
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Posters: 59
Articles: 354 (113 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 47
Volume generated: 916.2 kb
- headers: 551.9 kb (6,888 lines)
- bodies: 353.5 kb (9,481 lines)
- original: 187.1 kb (5,717 lines)
- signatures: 10.5 kb (403 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.529

Averages
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Posts per poster: 6.0
median: 2 posts
Posts per thread: 7.5
median: 3 posts
Message size: 2650.4 bytes
- header: 1596.5 bytes (19.5 lines)
- body: 1022.5 bytes (26.8 lines)
- original: 541.2 bytes (16.1 lines)
- signature: 30.4 bytes (1.1 lines)

Top 2 Targets for Crossposts
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Articles Newsgroup
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275 rec.arts.books.tolkien
8 alt.books.inklings


regards,

Arvind

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#4: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 10:49:36 by Taemon

TT Arvind wrote:

&gt; Statistics revised to set the limit for OCR downwards to three
&gt; from five, and to eliminate two huge spam posts from the posts
&gt; crunched. Is there a preference for this version?

Yes.

What happened here?

&gt; Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
&gt; =================================
&gt; 26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was:
&gt; COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt; 21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was:
&gt; COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt; 10 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was:
&gt; COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]

&gt; Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
&gt; ================================================
&gt; 0.394 ( 6.8 / 17.3) 21 Derek Broughton
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
&gt; 0.392 ( 1.2 / 3.1) 7 Tamf Moo &lt;<a href="mailto:liddlelellow&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">liddlelellow&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt;
&gt; 0.358 ( 6.8 / 19.0) 22 &quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt;

I always end up here... (among others!) It's because I'm succint! It's
not because I don't snip enough! Hm, exclamation marks. It really must
bother me.

&gt; Posters: 59
&gt; Articles: 354 (113 with cutlined signatures)
&gt; Threads: 47
&gt; Volume generated: 916.2 kb
&gt; - headers: 551.9 kb (6,888 lines)
&gt; - bodies: 353.5 kb (9,481 lines)
&gt; - original: 187.1 kb (5,717 lines)
&gt; - signatures: 10.5 kb (403 lines)

Would it be an idea to leave the headers out?

&gt; Top 2 Targets for Crossposts
&gt; ============================
&gt; 275 rec.arts.books.tolkien
&gt; 8 alt.books.inklings

Aw, this one has suddenly become all respectable and not at all weird!
A pity.

T.

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#5: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 13:36:17 by bredband.net

&quot;Taemon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt; skrev i meddelandet
news:<a href="mailto:4ie73fF3d142U1&#64;individual.net..." target="_blank">4ie73fF3d142U1&#64;individual.net...</a>
&gt; TT Arvind wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Statistics revised to set the limit for OCR downwards to three
&gt;&gt; from five, and to eliminate two huge spam posts from the posts
&gt;&gt; crunched. Is there a preference for this version?
&gt;
&gt; Yes.
&gt;
&gt; What happened here?
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
&gt;&gt; =================================
&gt;&gt; 26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was:
&gt;&gt; COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt;&gt; 21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was:
&gt;&gt; COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt;&gt; 10 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door? [was:
&gt;&gt; COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]

Mandos must have tacked lots of things to the church door.

Öjevind

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#6: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 14:23:49 by Troels Forchhammer

In message &lt;news:<a href="mailto:4ie73fF3d142U1&#64;individual.net" target="_blank">4ie73fF3d142U1&#64;individual.net</a>&gt; &quot;Taemon&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt; enriched us with:
&gt;
&gt; TT Arvind wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Statistics revised
[...]
&gt;&gt; Is there a preference for this version?
&gt;
&gt; Yes.

Very much, thank you.

&gt; What happened here?
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
&gt;&gt; =================================
&gt;&gt; 26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
&gt;&gt; [was:COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt;&gt; 21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
&gt;&gt; [was:COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt;&gt; 10 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
&gt;&gt; [was:COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]

It looks like broken threading.

If the script considers only the posts within the week in question
for threading, then this can easily happen, as the various branches
of old threads can very well have lost the common ancestor from the
references header (I believe there's a limit to that -- at least many
user-agents will truncate the references). In such a case the various
brances will appear to be different threads.

The server at work has a very short retention, and at times I've had
four different Mandos threads visible in the view from that server.

&lt;re-instating (cutting e-mail addresses&gt;

&gt;&gt; Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
&gt;&gt; =============================================
&gt;&gt; (kb) (kb)
&gt;&gt; OCR orig / body Posts Address
&gt;&gt; ----- -------------- ----- -------
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; 0.860 ( 5.2 / 6.0) 3 &quot;Hyarion&quot;
&gt;&gt; 0.815 ( 2.2 / 2.7) 3 &quot;Laurie Forbes&quot;
&gt;&gt; 0.752 ( 1.9 / 2.5) 3 Odysseus
&gt;&gt; 0.719 ( 44.6 / 62.0) 19 Troels Forchhammer
I was thinking -- perhaps we ought to set the limit at four posts?

;-D

&gt;&gt; Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)

&lt;snip list&gt;

&gt; I always end up here... (among others!) It's because I'm succint!

Of course -- and the rest of us are (as you imply) not all that
succint (some might justifiably apply the word 'long-winded' to some
of our (read: 'my') posts, and you therefore have to include a lot of
text in order to provide context, for your own succint answer. It
makes perfect sense (it does, really it does).

&gt; It's not because I don't snip enough! Hm, exclamation marks. It
&gt; really must bother me.

Well, the last couple of weeks just about everyone with more than
five posts have ended up on both lists ;-)

If it really bothers you, you might consider using XNews -- by
default it gives you a warning if more than 60% of your lines are
quoted (it doesn't count bytes, but the line-count is all right for
me), and the number can be configured quite easily.

&gt;&gt; Volume generated: 916.2 kb
&gt;&gt; - headers: 551.9 kb (6,888 lines)
&gt;&gt; - bodies: 353.5 kb (9,481 lines)
&gt;&gt; - original: 187.1 kb (5,717 lines)
&gt;&gt; - signatures: 10.5 kb (403 lines)

I suggest that somehow it is made clear that 'original' is part of
the 'bodies' count, but that signatures are not. Something like:

Volume generated: 916.2 kb
- Headers: 551.9 kb
- Signatures: 10.5 kb
- Bodies: 353.5 kb
- Original: 187.1 kb
- Quoted: 166.4 kb

&gt; Would it be an idea to leave the headers out?

It is a bit overwhelming, and it isn't really something we can do
anything about (well, most of them, anyway), so the information,
while interesting, is not something we can act upon (unless by
ensuring that all our messages exceed the 1.6 KB that is the average
size of headers -- quite an imposing task).

Gah! This just had me wishing for fuller stats -- mean, mode, median
quartiles, standard deviation and range for all the figures given in
the 'Averages' section. Apperently I don't get enough statistics in
my job (which is odd, because back in Uni I used to hate statistics
&lt;GG&gt;). I am, however, most definitely not suggesting that this be
posted -- but I think I'll get in touch with Arvind to see if it is
possible to satisfy my curiosity ;-)

&gt;&gt; Top 2 Targets for Crossposts
&gt;&gt; ============================
&gt;&gt; 275 rec.arts.books.tolkien
&gt;&gt; 8 alt.books.inklings

So, only 79 posts in AFT if you read RABT first and kill crossposts
before downloading AFT. From 50 posts per day to 11 ;-)

&gt; Aw, this one has suddenly become all respectable and not at all
&gt; weird! A pity.

We'll get there yet -- we can start a thread on the identity of the
flying object seen by the Fellowship on their way down the Great
River: cross-posted, of course, to every applicable ufology group (as
well as, preferably, a couple of non-applicable ones -- there's
nothing to a cross-posted thread if we don't get a few people
complaining why the thread is posted to their group -- sci.physics is
a good place to draw the attention of crack-pots, and I assure you
that that is /not/ 'all respectable').

--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is &lt;t.forch(a)email.dk&gt;

Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.
- /Reaper Man/ (Terry Pratchett)

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#7: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 15:41:04 by TT Arvind

Wes =F0u Troels Forchhammer hal!
&gt; If the script considers only the posts within the week in question=20
&gt; for threading, then this can easily happen, as the various branches=20
&gt; of old threads can very well have lost the common ancestor from the=20
&gt; references header (I believe there's a limit to that -- at least many=20
&gt; user-agents will truncate the references). In such a case the various=20
&gt; brances will appear to be different threads.=20

Actually, because this happens so frequently, the original author of=20
the script set it to thread by subject (which makes sense in a way even=20
otherwise). The problem with the &quot;Mandos&quot; thread is that some=20
newsreaders insert spaces after colons, so there were variant subjects=20
with one, two, three, four, five and six spaces. Then because the=20
title subjects so long with five and six spaces, some newsreaders=20
automatically inserted a linebreak. So Mandos ended up as the hero of=20
nine different threads when threaded by subject (My, that lad does get=20
around).

I've had in mind making the script a little more tolerant, so that it=20
essentially combines subjects where the difference is only an extra Re:=20
or space of line break. I've not programmed actively since '91,=20
though, and I'm not that great at perl, so if anyone could give me an=20
easy way of doing this that would be great.

&gt; I was thinking -- perhaps we ought to set the limit at four posts?=20

It didn't make much of a difference when I did, so I pushed it to=20
three. If the volume on this group increases, I'll take it back up to=20
four.

&gt; I suggest that somehow it is made clear that 'original' is part of
&gt; the 'bodies' count, but that signatures are not.=20

Good suggestion, I'll adopt it.

&gt; It is a bit overwhelming, and it isn't really something we can do=20
&gt; anything about (well, most of them, anyway), so the information,=20
&gt; while interesting, is not something we can act upon (unless by=20
&gt; ensuring that all our messages exceed the 1.6 KB that is the average=20
&gt; size of headers -- quite an imposing task).=20

Well, the statistics are not *all* admonition, you know. I think the=20
fact that the figure is interesting is enough to justify leaving it in.

&gt; Gah! This just had me wishing for fuller stats -- mean, mode, median=20
&gt; quartiles, standard deviation and range for all the figures given in=20
&gt; the 'Averages' section.

Early versions of the statistics had mode and sd in addition to mean=20
and median. I stopped posting those because people complained that it=20
was confusing, and I'm a little wary of adding them again.

&gt; think I'll get in touch with Arvind to see if it is=20
&gt; possible to satisfy my curiosity ;-)=20

The &quot;From: &quot; address is valid, and is checked periodically, but it=20
tends to get choked with spam quite often. Use (the same prefix &lt;at&gt;
start.no).

--=20
Arvind

Les grandes personnes sont d=E9cid=E9ment bien bizarres, se dit le petit=20
prince.

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#8: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 20:11:40 by Troels Forchhammer

In message &lt;news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f2c3b43ff51c562989d41&#64;news.individual.net" target="_blank">MPG.1f2c3b43ff51c562989d41&#64;news.individual.net</a>&gt; TT
Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; enriched us with:
&gt;
&gt; Wes ðu Troels Forchhammer hal!
&gt;&gt;

[Mandos threads]

&gt; I've had in mind making the script a little more tolerant, so that
&gt; it essentially combines subjects where the difference is only an
&gt; extra Re: or space of line break. I've not programmed actively
&gt; since '91, though, and I'm not that great at perl, so if anyone
&gt; could give me an easy way of doing this that would be great.

I'm not up to Perl either, but though I suspect that there might well
be a more clever way to do it in Perl using regular expressions, I'd
do it in a series of steps (I prefer to keep my programming in simple
steps -- I never seem get around to doing enough to enough
programming not to need lots of detailled debug info &lt;G&gt;).

1) Remove any CR and FF characters from subject.
2) Remove any &quot;Re:&quot; or &quot;RE:&quot; &quot;re:&quot; etc. from beginning of subject
(repeat until length of subject line doesn't change).
3) change all whitespace (greedy for several occurences) to one space
(something like &quot;s/[ \t]+/ &quot;)

The last can also be done in two steps without using regular
expressions.
a) change all tabs to spaces
b) change all occurences of double space to single space,
and repeat until length of subject string doesn't change.

&gt;&gt; I was thinking -- perhaps we ought to set the limit at four
&gt;&gt; posts?
&gt;
&gt; It didn't make much of a difference when I did, so I pushed it to
&gt; three.

I wasn't serious! It was just that I noticed that I was pushed from
the first place in the OCR table to the fourth place by three 3-post
posters -- it was meant humorously (sorry if I didn't make that clear
enough). Self-centred I may be, but not enough to seriously want to
adjust the requirements to put myself in a better light ;-)

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; Early versions of the statistics had mode and sd in addition to
&gt; mean and median. I stopped posting those because people
&gt; complained that it was confusing, and I'm a little wary of adding
&gt; them again.

Again I wasn't seriously suggesting that you do -- adding all that
information will only benefit a small minority who're familiar with
statistics. I wonder if there are any studies that have looked into
the distributions of these things?

For the number of posts per poster and thread it might be interesting
to see also the mode in addition to average and median.

--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is &lt;t.forch(a)email.dk&gt;

Knowing what
thou knowest not
is in a sense
omniscience
- Piet Hein, /Omniscience/

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#9: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 21:09:47 by Harold Marx Brzeznski

TT Arvind wrote:
&gt; Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
&gt; ==============================================

&gt; 0.675 ( 1.0 / 1.5) 4 Harold Marx Brzeznski &lt;<a href="mailto:brzeznski&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">brzeznski&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt;

Lauda Clippynem! The righteousness of our cause has been proven!
Amici, accede cum us today and receive beneficium innumeratum!

UFAT victoribus erunt!


yours in faith,

Harold Marx Brzeznski
PS: Delanda est Tolkinologiae!

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#10: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 23:19:21 by Count Menelvagor

Taemon wrote:
&gt; TT Arvind wrote:

&gt; I always end up here... (among others!) It's because I'm succint!

i have the same &quot;problem,&quot; if it be such.

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#11: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 23:21:29 by Count Menelvagor

=D6jevind L=E5ng wrote:

&gt; Mandos must have tacked lots of things to the church door.

the one true religion is balrog-worship. therefore, adore me, minions.

well? =20

i'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiting ...

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#12: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 23:44:30 by TT Arvind

Wes =F0u =D6jevind L=E5ng hal!
=20
&gt; Mandos must have tacked lots of things to the church door.

By their wings, presumably?


Arvind

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#13: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-23 12:49:02 by Taemon

Troels Forchhammer wrote:

&gt; In message &lt;news:<a href="mailto:4ie73fF3d142U1&#64;individual.net" target="_blank">4ie73fF3d142U1&#64;individual.net</a>&gt; &quot;Taemon&quot;
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt; enriched us with:
&gt;&gt; What happened here?
&gt;&gt;&gt; Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
&gt;&gt;&gt; =================================
&gt;&gt;&gt; 26 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
&gt;&gt;&gt; [was:COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt;&gt;&gt; 21 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
&gt;&gt;&gt; [was:COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt;&gt;&gt; 10 What Would Mandos Have Tacked to the Church Door?
&gt;&gt;&gt; [was:COTW: Silm ChXVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;]
&gt; If the script considers only the posts within the week in question
&gt; for threading, then this can easily happen, as the various
&gt; branches of old threads can very well have lost the common
&gt; ancestor from the references header (I believe there's a limit to
&gt; that -- at least many user-agents will truncate the references).

Ach. If a thread goes on for &quot;too long&quot;, my Outlook Express can't deal
with it anymore (some of you might be familiar with the ridiculous
&quot;line 4 too long&quot;-error). In does cases I'm guilty of breaking threads
myself. This is rare, though.

&gt;&gt;&gt; Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
&gt; &lt;snip list&gt;
&gt;&gt; I always end up here... (among others!) It's because I'm succint!
&gt; Of course -- and the rest of us are (as you imply) not all that
&gt; succint (some might justifiably apply the word 'long-winded' to
&gt; some of our (read: 'my') posts, and you therefore have to include
&gt; a lot of text in order to provide context, for your own succint
&gt; answer. It makes perfect sense (it does, really it does).

I know it does, I know. But I was raised in the world of
e-communication with the idea of OCR as the measure of all things good
and righteous. I had the same problem then. I like those &quot;long-winded&quot;
posts though, don't get me wrong. But I think you might be grateful
that I hardly do it myself :-) And if I do, it's about cognitive
science.

&gt; If it really bothers you, you might consider using XNews -- by
&gt; default it gives you a warning if more than 60% of your lines are
&gt; quoted

I don't need that, since I can see when I'm doing it. But really, in
those cases I should make up unnecessary filling lines to stay out of
bottom OCR lists. I'd rather stay succint.

&gt; Gah! This just had me wishing for fuller stats -- mean, mode,
&gt; median quartiles, standard deviation and range for all the
&gt; figures given in the 'Averages' section. Apperently I don't get
&gt; enough statistics in my job (which is odd, because back in Uni I
&gt; used to hate statistics &lt;GG&gt;). I am, however, most definitely not
&gt; suggesting that this be posted -- but I think I'll get in touch
&gt; with Arvind to see if it is possible to satisfy my curiosity ;-)

I'd love those. But I, like you, understand that I'm one of precious
few :-)

T.

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#14: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-23 20:19:02 by Christopher Kreuzer

TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Comrades,
&gt;
&gt; Statistics revised to set the limit for OCR downwards to three from
&gt; five, and to eliminate two huge spam posts from the posts crunched.
&gt; Is there a preference for this version?

I like it. It will encourage the more voluminous posters to improve
their OCR! :-)

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#15: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-23 20:24:26 by Christopher Kreuzer

Taemon &lt;<a href="mailto:Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl" target="_blank">Taemon&#64;zonnet.nl</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; TT Arvind wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Statistics revised to set the limit for OCR downwards to three
&gt;&gt; from five, and to eliminate two huge spam posts from the posts
&gt;&gt; crunched. Is there a preference for this version?
&gt;
&gt; Yes.
&gt;
&gt; What happened here?

&lt;snip repetition of threads&gt;

Arvind was testing us? :-) I totally missed this. Mainly because I just
look at the top entries in the top/bottom 10 lists, not the bottom
entries.

Actually, I suspect some people's software is replying in such a way
that the thread ID changes. Hence Arvind's software is counting this as
three separate threads.

Christopher

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#16: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-23 20:31:07 by Christopher Kreuzer

Troels Forchhammer &lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; Gah! This just had me wishing for fuller stats -- mean, mode, median
&gt; quartiles, standard deviation and range for all the figures given in
&gt; the 'Averages' section. Apperently I don't get enough statistics in
&gt; my job (which is odd, because back in Uni I used to hate statistics
&gt; &lt;GG&gt;). I am, however, most definitely not suggesting that this be
&gt; posted -- but I think I'll get in touch with Arvind to see if it is
&gt; possible to satisfy my curiosity ;-)

LOL! I don't think you wil be satisfied until the &quot;Statistics&quot; thread
hits number one spot for volume and number of posts...

&gt;&gt;&gt; Top 2 Targets for Crossposts
&gt;&gt;&gt; ============================
&gt;&gt;&gt; 275 rec.arts.books.tolkien
&gt;&gt;&gt; 8 alt.books.inklings
&gt;
&gt; So, only 79 posts in AFT if you read RABT first and kill crossposts
&gt; before downloading AFT. From 50 posts per day to 11 ;-)

I read AFT first (because it comes first alphabetically). I think there
is a similarly small amount of non-cross-posted material. Most threads
here are cross-posted in both newsgroups.

&gt;&gt; Aw, this one has suddenly become all respectable and not at all
&gt;&gt; weird! A pity.
&gt;
&gt; We'll get there yet -- we can start a thread on the identity of the
&gt; flying object seen by the Fellowship on their way down the Great
&gt; River: cross-posted, of course, to every applicable ufology group (as
&gt; well as, preferably, a couple of non-applicable ones -- there's
&gt; nothing to a cross-posted thread if we don't get a few people
&gt; complaining why the thread is posted to their group -- sci.physics is
&gt; a good place to draw the attention of crack-pots, and I assure you
&gt; that that is /not/ 'all respectable').

Go on. I dare you! :-)

Christopher

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#17: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-23 20:40:16 by Christopher Kreuzer

Harold Marx Brzeznski &lt;<a href="mailto:brzeznski&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">brzeznski&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; TT Arvind wrote:
&gt;&gt; Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
&gt;&gt; ==============================================
&gt;
&gt;&gt; 0.675 ( 1.0 / 1.5) 4 Harold Marx Brzeznski
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:brzeznski&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">brzeznski&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Lauda Clippynem! The righteousness of our cause has been proven!
&gt; Amici, accede cum us today and receive beneficium innumeratum!

Praise Clippyness! The righteousness of our cause has been proven!
Friends, join with us today and receive innumerable benefits.

&gt; UFAT victoribus erunt!

UFAT is the victor!

&gt; yours in faith,
&gt;
&gt; Harold Marx Brzeznski
&gt; PS: Delanda est Tolkinologiae!

Tolkienology is &quot;Delanda&quot;

[shouldn't that be 'delenda'? Forgotten what this means.]

Corrections welcomed - I don't know enough about Latin tenses and
grammar to translate stuff like this.

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#18: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-23 23:51:30 by TT Arvind

Wes =F0u Christopher Kreuzer hal!
&gt; Corrections welcomed - I don't know enough about Latin tenses and
&gt; grammar to translate stuff like this.

Nor, it would seem, does Mr. Brzeznski.

--=20
Arvind

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#19: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-24 00:06:38 by thomas-ml

Christopher Kreuzer &lt;<a href="mailto:spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">spamgard&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Tolkienology is &quot;Delanda&quot;
&gt;
&gt; [shouldn't that be 'delenda'? Forgotten what this means.]

It's &quot;delenda&quot; and it is a &quot;verbal adjective&quot; (at least that's what
Latin teachers in France call it) meaning &quot;must be destroyed&quot;.
&quot;Tolkienology is to-be-destroyed&quot; -&gt; &quot;Tolkienology must be destroyed&quot;.

(Harold Brzeznski's sentence is modeled after Cato's &quot;Carthago delenda
est&quot;. I do not know why he changed the word order.)

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#20: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-24 02:42:36 by Harold Marx Brzeznski

Thomas Deniau wrote:

&gt; (Harold Brzeznski's sentence is modeled after Cato's &quot;Carthago delenda
&gt; est&quot;. I do not know why he changed the word order.)

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remain a mystery for long. Join UFAT today at a specially discounted=20
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UFAT victoribus erunt! =20

Yours in faith,

Harold Marx Brzeznski

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#21: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-24 04:26:00 by Count Menelvagor

TT Arvind wrote:
&gt; Wes =F0u Christopher Kreuzer hal!
&gt; &gt; Corrections welcomed - I don't know enough about Latin tenses and
&gt; &gt; grammar to translate stuff like this.
&gt;
&gt; Nor, it would seem, does Mr. Brzeznski.

bad latin seems to be a common characteristic of these weird splinter
groups. noeel the prophet (<a href="http://prophetum.livejournal.com" target="_blank">http://prophetum.livejournal.com</a>) gets a
nasty attack of it now and then, though he usually sticks to english
these days.

pseudo doesn't do latin, except possibly by accident in spam headings.

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