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#1: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-20 16:23:20 by Unknown

Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
just barely, and snape will die.

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#2: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-20 19:55:51 by BaJoRi

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&gt; Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
&gt; just barely, and snape will die.


Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are worse
things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may be. My
guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not understand it to be
such at a time.

The only characters to have their wand cores revealed, other than the
Tri-wizard champs, was Neville and Ron, both unicorn hair like Cedric, who
died. Those two are dead men.

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#3: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-20 22:21:06 by DaveD

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&gt; &gt; Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
&gt; &gt; just barely, and snape will die.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are worse
&gt; things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may be. My
&gt; guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not understand it to
be
&gt; such at a time.
&gt;
&gt; The only characters to have their wand cores revealed, other than the
&gt; Tri-wizard champs, was Neville and Ron, both unicorn hair like Cedric, who
&gt; died. Those two are dead men.


I suspect that's exactly it - e will die and be no more, whereas other
people die but go on to have new adventures, perhaps behind the veil. But as
Voldy's cut his soul into 7 pieces, he won't. He'll just be dead or even be
trapped as a sub-ghost, a less-than-a-ghost - and he probably won't find the
dying part a pleasant process either!

DaveD

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#4: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-21 00:23:56 by drusilla

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&gt;&gt; Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
&gt;&gt; just barely, and snape will die.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are worse
&gt; things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may be. My
&gt; guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not understand it to be
&gt; such at a time.

The only weird stuff (besides the magic and the creatures ^_^) about
something related to the death, that I can remember now is the veil at
the MoM. But I really really wouldn't like it to be some place where
your soul is tortured forever and ever because Black's there :S

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#5: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-21 01:33:49 by BaJoRi

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&gt; BaJoRi escribió:
&gt;&gt; &quot;Unknown&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:joshua&#64;joshua.woh.rr.com" target="_blank">joshua&#64;joshua.woh.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt;&gt; Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
&gt;&gt;&gt; just barely, and snape will die.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are worse
&gt;&gt; things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may be. My
&gt;&gt; guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not understand it to
&gt;&gt; be such at a time.
&gt;
&gt; The only weird stuff (besides the magic and the creatures ^_^) about
&gt; something related to the death, that I can remember now is the veil at the
&gt; MoM. But I really really wouldn't like it to be some place where your soul
&gt; is tortured forever and ever because Black's there :S


No. There is something there, mentioned in passing, that I think will be
highly important. Sort of like the Vanishing Cabinet reference in #5, paving
the way for Draco's use in #6, I just can't pinpoint it right now. But I am
convinced that V will not die, per se.

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#6: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-21 06:29:02 by dicconf

In article &lt;xpUvg.24364$<a href="mailto:tQ4.18116&#64;fe01.news.easynews.com" target="_blank">tQ4.18116&#64;fe01.news.easynews.com</a>&gt;,
BaJoRi &lt;<a href="mailto:bajori&#64;cbg.com" target="_blank">bajori&#64;cbg.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&quot;drusilla&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:me&#64;me.net" target="_blank">me&#64;me.net</a>&gt; wrote
&gt;&gt; BaJoRi escribió:

&gt;&gt;&gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are worse
&gt;&gt;&gt; things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may be. My
&gt;&gt;&gt; guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not understand it to
&gt;&gt;&gt; be such at a time.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The only weird stuff (besides the magic and the creatures ^_^) about
&gt;&gt; something related to the death, that I can remember now is the veil at the
&gt;&gt; MoM. But I really really wouldn't like it to be some place where your soul
&gt;&gt; is tortured forever and ever because Black's there :S
&gt;
&gt;No. There is something there, mentioned in passing, that I think will be
&gt;highly important. Sort of like the Vanishing Cabinet reference in #5, paving
&gt;the way for Draco's use in #6, I just can't pinpoint it right now. But I am
&gt;convinced that V will not die, per se.

Maybe the potion that if misused will put you into a permanent sleep?
So Voldy sleeps until either his body dies and he's a sleeping Vapor, or until
all his horcruxes are destroyed and he dies totally because his soul is too
splintered to survive?

=Tamar

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#7: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-21 17:07:57 by Thomas Madura

drusilla wrote:
&gt; BaJoRi escribió:
&gt;
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&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
&gt;&gt;&gt; just barely, and snape will die.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are
&gt;&gt; worse things than death. I think we will find out what one of those
&gt;&gt; may be. My guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not
&gt;&gt; understand it to be such at a time.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; The only weird stuff (besides the magic and the creatures ^_^) about
&gt; something related to the death, that I can remember now is the veil at
&gt; the MoM. But I really really wouldn't like it to be some place where
&gt; your soul is tortured forever and ever because Black's there :S


Actually - Riddle will be VANQUISHED as per the Prophecy. The word does
not mean Killed - in means Defeated or Overcome. SO - there is room for
the possibility that Riddle would not be &quot;killed&quot;. Still - It would be a
real downer if he wasn't killed.

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#8: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-22 02:18:11 by Stubby Boardman

On 2006-07-21 11:07:57 -0400, Thom Madura &lt;<a href="mailto:Thom-Madura&#64;Worldnet.att.net" target="_blank">Thom-Madura&#64;Worldnet.att.net</a>&gt; said:

&gt; drusilla wrote:
&gt;&gt; BaJoRi escribió:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Unknown&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:joshua&#64;joshua.woh.rr.com" target="_blank">joshua&#64;joshua.woh.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; just barely, and snape will die.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are
&gt;&gt;&gt; worse things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may
&gt;&gt;&gt; be. My guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not
&gt;&gt;&gt; understand it to be such at a time.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The only weird stuff (besides the magic and the creatures ^_^) about
&gt;&gt; something related to the death, that I can remember now is the veil at
&gt;&gt; the MoM. But I really really wouldn't like it to be some place where
&gt;&gt; your soul is tortured forever and ever because Black's there :S
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Actually - Riddle will be VANQUISHED as per the Prophecy. The word does
&gt; not mean Killed - in means Defeated or Overcome. SO - there is room for
&gt; the possibility that Riddle would not be &quot;killed&quot;. Still - It would be
&gt; a real downer if he wasn't killed.

Remember the &quot;fate worse than death&quot;. I would love to see him
stripped of his magical powers and forced to live as a squib...
perhaps Filch's underling.

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#9: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-22 21:58:18 by suomalianen

DaveD wrote:
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&gt; &gt; &gt; Me? i seriously think that Voldemort will be killed, harry will live
&gt; &gt; &gt; just barely, and snape will die.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are worse
&gt; &gt; things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may be. My
&gt; &gt; guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not understand it to
&gt; be
&gt; &gt; such at a time.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; The only characters to have their wand cores revealed, other than the
&gt; &gt; Tri-wizard champs, was Neville and Ron, both unicorn hair like Cedric, who
&gt; &gt; died. Those two are dead men.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I suspect that's exactly it - e will die and be no more, whereas other
&gt; people die but go on to have new adventures, perhaps behind the veil. But as
&gt; Voldy's cut his soul into 7 pieces, he won't. He'll just be dead or even be
&gt; trapped as a sub-ghost, a less-than-a-ghost - and he probably won't find the
&gt; dying part a pleasant process either!
&gt;
&gt; DaveD

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#10: Re: book 7 deaths... what i think

Posted on 2006-07-23 19:37:25 by R Black

I have been saying this for a long time. One only has to look at
Nevilles parents, to see where LV is headed. LV will end up without
powers, insane, and in St. Mungos.

Chip
&gt;
&gt; Voldemort will not die. DD told him at the ministry that there are worse
&gt; things than death. I think we will find out what one of those may be. My
&gt; guess would be that we have already seen it, but did not understand it to be
&gt; such at a time.
&gt;

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