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#1: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-17 13:34:39 by juanjo

I just watched WRECKING CREW on the ENCORE Action Channel. At the end a
fifth Helm movie, THE REVENGERS, is promised. Obviously it was never
made; why was that franchise cancelled so soon? Also, the background
music uses a lot of harpsichord--a la THE IPCRESS FILE--and choruses
singing a lot of BA BA BA BA, BA BA BA BA BAP--a gimmick very popular
in the 60s, particularly in action movies. How come the Bond movies of
that decade never used those effects in their soundtracks?

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#2: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-17 21:23:30 by fred

On 17 Jul 2006 06:00:49 -0700, &quot;juanjo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:HijodelCid&#64;webtv.net" target="_blank">HijodelCid&#64;webtv.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;I just watched WRECKING CREW on the ENCORE Action Channel. At the end a
&gt;fifth Helm movie, THE REVENGERS, is promised. Obviously it was never
&gt;made; why was that franchise cancelled so soon?

According to Wikipedia, the movie didn't do well at the box
office, and Dean Martin was growing tired of the role too.

Frederick J. Barnett <a href="http://www.eatel.net/~fred/" target="_blank">http://www.eatel.net/~fred/</a>
&quot;Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!&quot; Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone

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#3: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-20 00:47:44 by juanjo

HELTER SKELTER says that the premature death of Sharon Tate created a
great posthumous public interest in the movies she had made--movies
such as VALLEY OF THE DOLLS, THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS, and, of
course, WRECKING CREW.

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#4: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-20 05:16:42 by JHause

I love the Matt Helm movies. Dumbest gadgets ever.

A car dashboard that turns into a bar? Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

A gun that doesn't shoot until 6 seconds AFTER you pull the trigger?
Very helpful.

And Martin and the guy playing his boss in those films are always so
sloshed that they're impossible to understand.


They were trying to start up a Matt Helm Jr. franchise in Hollywood
during the 90's, but Austin Powers killed it off.

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#5: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-20 06:36:24 by dgates

On 17 Jul 2006 06:00:49 -0700, &quot;juanjo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:HijodelCid&#64;webtv.net" target="_blank">HijodelCid&#64;webtv.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;I just watched WRECKING CREW on the ENCORE Action Channel. At the end a
&gt;fifth Helm movie, THE REVENGERS, is promised. Obviously it was never
&gt;made; why was that franchise cancelled so soon? Also, the background
&gt;music uses a lot of harpsichord--a la THE IPCRESS FILE--and choruses
&gt;singing a lot of BA BA BA BA, BA BA BA BA BAP--a gimmick very popular
&gt;in the 60s, particularly in action movies. How come the Bond movies of
&gt;that decade never used those effects in their soundtracks?

I don't know why but I love this particular movie.

Well, actually, I kind of know why. It's because I saw it as a kid,
and the music (plus the Palm Springs, er, I mean, Helsinki Aerial
Tram) left an impression on me.

Then I saw it one day as an adult and I just loved hearing the music
again. And I was actually pretty impressed by the fights. And the
FOUR famous 60s babes, each of whom appears in very slinky outfits at
some point.

In one way, I know this is one weak-ass movie. But I still love it. I
love the BA BA BA BA BAAA vocal music, and the whole Lalo
Schifrin/Mission Impossible sound to other parts.


I even have the movie poster!
<a href="http://www.blue-eyes.com/store/catalog/images/Dean%20Martin.gif" target="_blank"> http://www.blue-eyes.com/store/catalog/images/Dean%20Martin. gif</a>

Or, in Spanish:
<a href="http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/223293.1020.A.jpg" target="_blank"> http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/223293. 1020.A.jpg</a>


I actually thought the first and fourth of the four Matt Helm movies
were pretty good. I always thought that The Ambushers went a lot
further to do in the series than The Wrecking Crew.

Still, that's FOUR movies!

One more than Austin Powers.
Two more than Derek Flint.
Three more than The Rocketeer.

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#6: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-20 06:52:21 by Blofelds Cat

&quot;dgates&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dgates&#64;spamlinkline.com" target="_blank">dgates&#64;spamlinkline.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; On 17 Jul 2006 06:00:49 -0700, &quot;juanjo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:HijodelCid&#64;webtv.net" target="_blank">HijodelCid&#64;webtv.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;I just watched WRECKING CREW on the ENCORE Action Channel. At the end a
&gt;&gt;fifth Helm movie, THE REVENGERS, is promised. Obviously it was never
&gt;&gt;made; why was that franchise cancelled so soon? Also, the background
&gt;&gt;music uses a lot of harpsichord--a la THE IPCRESS FILE--and choruses
&gt;&gt;singing a lot of BA BA BA BA, BA BA BA BA BAP--a gimmick very popular
&gt;&gt;in the 60s, particularly in action movies. How come the Bond movies of
&gt;&gt;that decade never used those effects in their soundtracks?
&gt;
&gt; I don't know why but I love this particular movie.
&gt;
&gt; Well, actually, I kind of know why. It's because I saw it as a kid,
&gt; and the music (plus the Palm Springs, er, I mean, Helsinki Aerial
&gt; Tram) left an impression on me.
&gt;
&gt; Then I saw it one day as an adult and I just loved hearing the music
&gt; again. And I was actually pretty impressed by the fights. And the
&gt; FOUR famous 60s babes, each of whom appears in very slinky outfits at
&gt; some point.
&gt;
&gt; In one way, I know this is one weak-ass movie. But I still love it. I
&gt; love the BA BA BA BA BAAA vocal music, and the whole Lalo
&gt; Schifrin/Mission Impossible sound to other parts.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I even have the movie poster!
&gt; <a href="http://www.blue-eyes.com/store/catalog/images/Dean%20Martin.gif" target="_blank"> http://www.blue-eyes.com/store/catalog/images/Dean%20Martin. gif</a>
&gt;
&gt; Or, in Spanish:
&gt; <a href="http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/223293.1020.A.jpg" target="_blank"> http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/223293. 1020.A.jpg</a>
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I actually thought the first and fourth of the four Matt Helm movies
&gt; were pretty good. I always thought that The Ambushers went a lot
&gt; further to do in the series than The Wrecking Crew.
&gt;
&gt; Still, that's FOUR movies!
&gt;
&gt; One more than Austin Powers.
&gt; Two more than Derek Flint.
&gt; Three more than The Rocketeer.

I've seen 'em all but it was so long ago that the only thing that remains in
my minds was at the end of one of 'em where Helm is trying to get a bird in
'the mood' by playing a Dean Martin record; but instead it turns her right
off; then he switches on the radio and Perry Como (or Frank or Bennett or
whoever) comes on and the girl immediately melts into Helm's arms leaving
him to ask, &quot;you LIKE that guy?&quot;

It was a great gag that wasn't wasted on the twelve-year old me.

cheers.

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#7: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-20 20:22:49 by JHause

Yup. And who CAN'T use a round bed that automatically carries you into
the patio and dumps you in the swimming pool?

And the martini-glass chiller that's really a gun that freezes bad
guys? A must-have.

If you've ever read the Helm books, it's a shock that Donald Hamilton
didn't kill himself.

I think he's still alive, actually. He's gotta be in his nineties.

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#8: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-20 21:27:05 by Paul Clarke

JHause wrote:
&gt; If you've ever read the Helm books, it's a shock that Donald Hamilton
&gt; didn't kill himself.
&gt;
&gt; I think he's still alive, actually. He's gotta be in his nineties.

So, out of curiosity, what were the Helm books like? And how do the
movies differ? I presume its somewhat akin to comparing MR or OP to
their respective source material, but I've never read the Helm books and
the movies have always seemed to me like a vacuous waste of time.


--
==007===
“My dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as
drinking Dom Perignon '53 above a temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit.
That's as bad as putting a secret agent in a gorilla suit.”

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#9: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-20 21:51:29 by JHause

Matt Helm books are very serious and kinda' nasty. He's just a straight
assassin, and narrates the books. He says he's about forty and out of
shape, or at least the villains tell him that. Usually he plays dumb to
find out who is who, gets tortured, then he kills everybody. At the end
of the first book he's killed a guy who kidnaps his daughter, then his
wife sees him after the climax with blood all over his arms and hands.
In the next book he's divorced!

This is from the book, &quot;The Wrecking Crew:&quot;

&quot;The man in the bushes with a broken neck,&quot; she whispered. &quot;The one by
the cabin with a bullet in the back. In the back, Matt!&quot; &quot;Yeah,&quot; I
said. &quot;In the back. He happened to be facing that way.&quot; &quot;And Caselius
himself . . . he'd surrendered, Matt! He had his hands in the air.&quot; I
said, &quot;It was my job, Lou. I had to finish it, no matter where his damn
hands were.&quot;

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#10: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-21 14:06:22 by mlawrenc

JHause wrote:
&gt; Matt Helm books are very serious and kinda' nasty. He's just a straight
&gt; assassin, and narrates the books.

Yeah I did some searching for Helm info a while back and found this
page:

<a href="http://hometown.aol.com/MacBorden/" target="_blank">http://hometown.aol.com/MacBorden/</a>

Definitetly was left with the impression that the Martin movies were a
complete departure from Hamilton's books. The producers were trying to
capitalize of Bond's popularity and disregarded the tone of his books.
Ironically, in many ways like what EON did to Fleming's work. That
sort of makes Matt Helm a send up of a send up. Right?

Regards,
Matt

Lola Medina: I've heard that you do... drink.

Matt Helm: Just call it a hobby.

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#11: Re: WRECKING CREW

Posted on 2006-07-21 20:19:11 by JHause

Yeah. Imagine poor Don Hamilton. It would've been like Ian Fleming
going to see the first Bond movie, only it's AVTAK.

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