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#1: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-15 02:37:05 by TT Arvind

Comrades,

Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 08 Jul 2006 00:35:37 GMT and ending at
14 Jul 2006 22:38:14 GMT.

Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
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Posts Subject
----- -------

19 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI "Of Maeglin"
18 The 2006 Who's Who of AFT/RABT
16 AFT/RABT Titles Update
11 Poll
11 The Thread That Runs So True: Google, the Usenet & Ancient=20
Threads
8 Bree defences and the building of the Great East Road
8 ? of expanded universe
8 Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien
7 The Thread That Runs So True: Google, the Usenet & Ancient=20
Threads
5 OT: Protestantism

These threads accounted for 77.6% of all articles.

Top 10 Threads by Volume
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Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------

50.1 ( 24.9/ 24.1/ 12.0) 19 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI "Of=20
Maeglin"
39.8 ( 27.7/ 11.9/ 6.5) 18 The 2006 Who's Who of AFT/RABT
39.6 ( 23.6/ 16.0/ 7.0) 16 AFT/RABT Titles Update
36.8 ( 16.7/ 19.6/ 11.6) 11 The Thread That Runs So True:=20
Google, the Usenet & Ancient Threads
20.7 ( 11.3/ 8.5/ 5.8) 7 The Thread That Runs So True: =20
Google, the Usenet & Ancient Threads
20.4 ( 8.5/ 11.5/ 9.4) 8 Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien
20.3 ( 14.6/ 5.5/ 2.8) 11 Poll
19.8 ( 13.2/ 6.6/ 2.9) 8 Bree defences and the building of=20
the Great East Road
19.4 ( 9.6/ 9.6/ 5.4) 8 ? of expanded universe
19.0 ( 3.4/ 15.6/ 7.3) 2 Q: Was Theoden ever told...

These threads accounted for 75.0% of the total volume.

10 threads (34%) had at least five posts.

Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
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Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
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14 28.5 ( 18.2/ 10.3/ 5.5) "=D6jevind L=E5ng"=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
14 49.7 ( 22.6/ 27.1/ 12.6) Morgoth's Curse &lt;morgothscurse2002
@nospam.yahoo.com&gt;
12 27.8 ( 20.0/ 7.8/ 4.0) &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
6 17.8 ( 7.2/ 10.6/ 8.9) TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
5 17.6 ( 5.9/ 10.8/ 7.8) Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
5 10.8 ( 7.1/ 3.7/ 1.3) Derek Broughton=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;
5 17.0 ( 8.5/ 8.5/ 5.3) <a href="mailto:Michael&#64;xenite.org" target="_blank">Michael&#64;xenite.org</a>
4 9.5 ( 4.6/ 4.9/ 2.1) &quot;Shanahan&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:pogues&#64;bluefrog.com" target="_blank">pogues&#64;bluefrog.com</a>&gt;
4 11.3 ( 6.6/ 4.6/ 2.8) &quot;J.G. Ballard&quot; &lt;jgballar-
<a href="mailto:keinspam&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">keinspam&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt;
4 11.3 ( 6.0/ 5.2/ 3.0) Dirk Thierbach=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de" target="_blank">dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 51.0% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
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Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
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49.7 ( 22.6/ 27.1/ 12.6) 14 Morgoth's Curse &lt;morgothscurse2002
@nospam.yahoo.com&gt;
28.5 ( 18.2/ 10.3/ 5.5) 14 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
27.8 ( 20.0/ 7.8/ 4.0) 12 &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
17.8 ( 7.2/ 10.6/ 8.9) 6 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
17.6 ( 5.9/ 10.8/ 7.8) 5 Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
17.0 ( 8.5/ 8.5/ 5.3) 5 <a href="mailto:Michael&#64;xenite.org" target="_blank">Michael&#64;xenite.org</a>
15.8 ( 6.8/ 9.0/ 3.8) 4 Larry Swain &lt;<a href="mailto:theswain&#64;operamail.com" target="_blank">theswain&#64;operamail.com</a>&gt;
11.3 ( 6.6/ 4.6/ 2.8) 4 &quot;J.G. Ballard&quot; &lt;jgballar-
<a href="mailto:keinspam&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">keinspam&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt;
11.3 ( 6.0/ 5.2/ 3.0) 4 Dirk Thierbach=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de" target="_blank">dthierbach&#64;usenet.arcornews.de</a>&gt;
10.8 ( 7.1/ 3.7/ 1.3) 5 Derek Broughton=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 54.5% of the total volume.

Top 7 Posters by Volume of Original Content (min. five posts)
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Posts orig Address
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14 12.6 Morgoth's Curse &lt;<a href="mailto:morgothscurse2002&#64;nospam.yahoo.com" target="_blank">morgothscurse2002&#64;nospam.yahoo.com</a>&gt;
6 8.9 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
5 7.8 Troels Forchhammer &lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
14 5.5 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
5 5.3 <a href="mailto:Michael&#64;xenite.org" target="_blank">Michael&#64;xenite.org</a>
12 4.0 &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
5 1.3 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;

These posters accounted for 47.2% of the original volume.

Top 7 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
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OCR orig / body Posts Address
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0.834 ( 8.9 / 10.6) 6 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.724 ( 7.8 / 10.8) 5 Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
0.621 ( 5.3 / 8.5) 5 <a href="mailto:Michael&#64;xenite.org" target="_blank">Michael&#64;xenite.org</a>
0.533 ( 5.5 / 10.3) 14 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
0.517 ( 4.0 / 7.8) 12 &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.464 ( 12.6 / 27.1) 14 Morgoth's Curse &lt;morgothscurse2002
@nospam.yahoo.com&gt;
0.359 ( 1.3 / 3.7) 5 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;

Bottom 7 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
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OCR orig / body Posts Address
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0.834 ( 8.9 / 10.6) 6 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.724 ( 7.8 / 10.8) 5 Troels Forchhammer=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;
0.621 ( 5.3 / 8.5) 5 <a href="mailto:Michael&#64;xenite.org" target="_blank">Michael&#64;xenite.org</a>
0.533 ( 5.5 / 10.3) 14 &quot;=D6jevind L=E5ng&quot;=20
&lt;<a href="mailto:bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang" target="_blank">bredband.net&#64;ojevind.lang</a>&gt;
0.517 ( 4.0 / 7.8) 12 &quot;Henriette&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:heldenib&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">heldenib&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;
0.464 ( 12.6 / 27.1) 14 Morgoth's Curse &lt;morgothscurse2002
@nospam.yahoo.com&gt;
0.359 ( 1.3 / 3.7) 5 Derek Broughton &lt;<a href="mailto:news&#64;pointerstop.ca" target="_blank">news&#64;pointerstop.ca</a>&gt;

7 posters (14%) had at least five posts.

Totals
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Posters: 48
Articles: 143 (33 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 29
Volume generated: 380.8 kb
- headers: 202.2 kb (2,793 lines)
- bodies: 173.9 kb (4,426 lines)
- original: 96.0 kb (2,769 lines)
- signatures: 4.6 kb (130 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.552

Averages
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Posts per poster: 3.0
median: 2.0 posts
Posts per thread: 4.9
median: 2 posts
Message size: 2727.1 bytes
- header: 1448.0 bytes (19.5 lines)
- body: 1245.3 bytes (31.0 lines)
- original: 687.4 bytes (19.4 lines)
- signature: 32.8 bytes (0.9 lines)

Top 5 Targets for Crossposts
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Articles Newsgroup
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89 rec.arts.books.tolkien
1 alt.fan.pikachu
1 alt.tv.csi
1 alt.home.repair
1 alt.games.video.xbox

regards,

Arvind

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#2: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-15 23:52:10 by Troels Forchhammer

In message &lt;news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f224911cc957bbb989d18&#64;news.individual.net" target="_blank">MPG.1f224911cc957bbb989d18&#64;news.individual.net</a>&gt;
TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; enriched us with:
&gt;

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
&gt; ================================
&gt; Posts Subject
&gt; ----- -------
&gt; 19 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;

Yay!

CotW in the top -- I /really/ like that :-)

And combining the two separated parts of the Google thread:

18 The Thread That Runs So True:
Google, the Usenet &amp; Ancient Threads
&gt; 18 The 2006 Who's Who of AFT/RABT
&gt; 16 AFT/RABT Titles Update
&gt; 11 Poll
&gt; 8 Bree defences and the building of the Great East Road
&gt; 8 ? of expanded universe
&gt; 8 Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien
&gt; 5 OT: Protestantism
&gt;
&gt; These threads accounted for 77.6% of all articles.
&gt;
&gt; Top 10 Threads by Volume
&gt; =======================
&gt; (kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
&gt; Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
&gt; -------------------------- ----- -------
&gt;
57.5 ( 28.0/ 28.1/ 17.4) 18 The Thread That Runs So True:
Google, the Usenet &amp; Ancient Threads
&gt; 50.1 ( 24.9/ 24.1/ 12.0) 19 COTW: Silmarillion Chapter XVI
&gt; &quot;Of Maeglin&quot;
&gt; 39.8 ( 27.7/ 11.9/ 6.5) 18 The 2006 Who's Who of AFT/RABT
&gt; 39.6 ( 23.6/ 16.0/ 7.0) 16 AFT/RABT Titles Update
&gt; 20.4 ( 8.5/ 11.5/ 9.4) 8 Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien
&gt; 20.3 ( 14.6/ 5.5/ 2.8) 11 Poll
&gt; 19.8 ( 13.2/ 6.6/ 2.9) 8 Bree defences and the building
&gt; of the Great East Road
&gt; 19.4 ( 9.6/ 9.6/ 5.4) 8 ? of expanded universe
&gt; 19.0 ( 3.4/ 15.6/ 7.3) 2 Q: Was Theoden ever told...

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; 10 threads (34%) had at least five posts.

Nice. I wonder if the limit should be set at 3 posts for both posters
and threads -- this way there are too few to count all.

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; 0.834 ( 8.9 / 10.6) 6 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;

Heh -- how much of that volume is the statistics post ;-)

&gt; 0.724 ( 7.8 / 10.8) 5 Troels Forchhammer
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid" target="_blank">Troels&#64;ThisIsFake.invalid</a>&gt;

Fair enough.

I've got to stop commenting on the newsgroups statistics -- it ruins my
OCR ;-)

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; Totals
&gt; =====
&gt; Posters: 48
&gt; Articles: 143 (33 with cutlined signatures)
&gt; Threads: 29
&gt; Volume generated: 380.8 kb
&gt; - headers: 202.2 kb (2,793 lines)
&gt; - bodies: 173.9 kb (4,426 lines)
&gt; - original: 96.0 kb (2,769 lines)
&gt; - signatures: 4.6 kb (130 lines)
&gt;
&gt; Original Content Rating: 0.552

Only because headers are discounted, but still.

Actually it's scaring how much of the total volume generated that is
headers -- 53.1 % of the total volume is headers, and most of that is
probably required or auto-generated (including the references, path and
X-ref headers).

Looking at it another way, we've generated nearly half the amount of
actual (original) content as we've generated headers, and very nearly
on the same amount of lines.

That's quite an overhead.

&gt; Averages
&gt; =======
&gt; Posts per poster: 3.0
&gt; median: 2.0 posts
&gt; Posts per thread: 4.9
&gt; median: 2 posts

This leads me to suggest again that the cut-off for volume statistics
is lowered to 3 posts for both threads and posters.

--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is &lt;t.forch(a)email.dk&gt;

Scientific reasoning works only with measurements: only
when we have a number and a unit. Thus, topics for which
we have no measurements, scientific investigation is not
useful. No math, no science. When we do have
measurements, scientific reasoning cannot be ignored.
- Dr Nancy's Sweetie on usenet
Message-ID: &lt;ds159c$p45$<a href="mailto:1&#64;pcls4.std.com" target="_blank">1&#64;pcls4.std.com</a>&gt;

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#3: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-16 03:11:13 by TT Arvind

Wes =F0u Troels Forchhammer hal!
&gt; Nice. I wonder if the limit should be set at 3 posts for both posters=20
&gt; and threads -- this way there are too few to count all.=20

Yes, I'll implement it with MC's and your other suggestions when I=20
rejig the scripts.
=20
&gt; &gt; 0.834 ( 8.9 / 10.6) 6 TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt;=20
&gt;=20
&gt; Heh -- how much of that volume is the statistics post ;-)=20

Hey, I should be allowed to give myself a little boost as reward for=20
generating these, right? ;-)

--=20
Arvind

Les grandes personnes sont d=E9cid=E9ment bien bizarres, se dit le petit=20
prince.

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#4: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-16 16:13:51 by Troels Forchhammer

In message &lt;news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f23a28c364b4a5c989d19&#64;news.individual.net" target="_blank">MPG.1f23a28c364b4a5c989d19&#64;news.individual.net</a>&gt;
TT Arvind &lt;<a href="mailto:ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ttarvind&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; enriched us with:
&gt;
&gt; Wes ðu Troels Forchhammer hal!
&gt;&gt;

[Arvind's excellent OCR]

&gt;&gt; Heh -- how much of that volume is the statistics post ;-)
&gt;
&gt; Hey, I should be allowed to give myself a little boost as reward
&gt; for generating these, right? ;-)

Of course you deserve it ;-) (and I'll hurry to post the Silmarillion
CotW schedule -- don't you think twice per week would better? &lt;GG&gt;)

--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is &lt;t.forch(a)email.dk&gt;

Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo
- /The Fellowship of the Ring/ (J.R.R. Tolkien)

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#5: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-17 16:15:28 by TT Arvind

Wes =F0u Troels Forchhammer hal!
&gt; Of course you deserve it ;-) (and I'll hurry to post the Silmarillion=
=20
&gt; CotW schedule -- don't you think twice per week would better? &lt;GG&gt;)=20

Which reminds me that COTW posts are themselves an excellent way og=20
boosting OCR (250+ lines of original text with no quoted text). Maybe=20
you could use that as a recruitment incentive the next time you have=20
problem finding volunteers to take on a chapter? &quot;Do the CoTW and top=20
the OCR lists COMPLETELY FREE&quot; (Oops, too much FATS).


--=20
Arvind

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#6: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-18 10:48:09 by Taemon

TT Arvind wrote:

&gt; &quot;Do the CoTW and top the OCR lists COMPLETELY FREE&quot; (Oops, too much
&gt; FATS).

There is no such thing as too much FATS. There's only such thing as
not enough money being sent.

T.

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#7: Re: Statistics for alt.fan.tolkien

Posted on 2006-07-22 06:33:47 by pseudonimofaqhater

Taemon wrote:
&gt; TT Arvind wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; &quot;Do the CoTW and top the OCR lists COMPLETELY FREE&quot; (Oops, too much
&gt; &gt; FATS).
&gt;
&gt; There is no such thing as too much FATS. There's only such thing as
&gt; not enough money being sent.

You speak great wisdom.

Listen to thy genomes! They are telling thee: send globs of dough.

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