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#1: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 08:57:36 by Stacie Hanes

Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's been
hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously wondered
whether something was broken, so I'm testing.

<taptaptap> Is this thing on?

I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new, ultra-low-traffic version.
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Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students,
SadoMangoist, AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to
A. Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe

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#2: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 12:25:45 by Matthew Seaman

&quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; writes:

&gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's been
&gt; hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously wondered
&gt; whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?
&gt;
&gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new, ultra-low-traffic version.

No one sent you the memo then?

Oh dear,

Matthew

--
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Flat 3
PGP: <a href="http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey" target="_blank">http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey</a> Ramsgate
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#3: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 14:33:25 by raltbos

&quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's been
&gt; hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously wondered
&gt; whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?

It's the weather.

Richard

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#4: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 17:52:55 by Blake

Anastasia wrote:

&gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's been
&gt; hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously wondered
&gt; whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?
&gt;
&gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new, ultra-low-traffic version.

Weird isn't it.

As the (one of the?) new guy on the block it's odd trying to get the
feel for how the place works. I've noticed that the other newsgroups I
drop in on regularly have recently had a quiet spell also. Perhaps it
has something to do with the sunspot cycle.

Or, perhaps when you mentioned about not having a life, the others
realized they didn't have one either and ran off to try and get one?

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#5: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 18:09:53 by Brenda

Anastasia said:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?

Please don't do that. There is a place in hell specially reserved for people
who tap microphones.

--
Richard Heathfield
&quot;Usenet is a strange place&quot; - dmr 29/7/1999
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#6: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 18:33:04 by Ssirienna

&quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:AN1sg.5705$<a href="mailto:cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net..." target="_blank">cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...</a>
&gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's
&gt; been hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously
&gt; wondered whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?
&gt;
&gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new, ultra-low-traffic
&gt; version.

DON'T TAP THE GLASS!!!

It's going to take me forever to calm all the fish down again!!

Ssirienna
(blowing bubbles is fun)

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#7: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 22:45:51 by Stacie Hanes

Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt; Anastasia said:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?
&gt;
&gt; Please don't do that. There is a place in hell specially reserved
&gt; for people who tap microphones.

Ha! It wasn't a mic, it was the &quot;send&quot; button.

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#8: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 23:42:51 by Pudde Fjord

Anastasia wrote:
&gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's been
&gt; hardly anything today.

Just a little Summertime Blues going around. I'm glad for this, as I'll
not have a million messages to catch up with when I'm back once a month
or so...

Go get some tan (depending on local weather...) from something else than
a computer screen.

Pudde.

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#9: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-09 23:55:47 by Stacie Hanes

Pudde Fjord wrote:
&gt; Anastasia wrote:
&gt;&gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but
&gt;&gt; there's been hardly anything today.
&gt;
&gt; Just a little Summertime Blues going around. I'm glad for this, as
&gt; I'll not have a million messages to catch up with when I'm back
&gt; once a month or so...
&gt;
&gt; Go get some tan (depending on local weather...) from something else
&gt; than a computer screen.

I played tennis with my former husband yesterday. Or at least, I'd serve and
wait for him to miss and then go get the ball and give it back. It was a lot
of walkig back to the line rather than running for the ball, but at least it
was some exercise.

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#10: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-10 06:06:44 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:AN1sg.5705$<a href="mailto:cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net..." target="_blank">cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...</a>
&gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's
&gt; been hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously
&gt; wondered whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?
&gt;
&gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new, ultra-low-traffic
&gt; version.

I couldn't get on at all today when I had some time to post. AND I can't
find that link Lesley gave me for the Lspace server so I could sign up to
their service. I looked all over the web page and can't find it, so I
reckon I'm just a freakin' doof. Now I can get on, but it's late and I'm
tired and don't feel like reading and typing much. I went roller skating
and my legs are vibrating too much for me to concentrate. 8o

Aggie

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#11: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-10 06:29:30 by April Goodwin-Smith

&quot;Anastasia&quot; wrote ...
&lt;snip&gt;
&gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new,
&gt; ultra-low-traffic version.
&gt;

Low traffic is one thing; no traffic is entirely another.

Is this one of those games where you see how long you
can hold your breath before your head pops? So - in a
few days will we be having a thread about how many hours
each person held out before they just hadda post?

Yeah, give it up any time I like, no problemo.

*sigh*

April.

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#12: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-10 09:51:07 by Peter Ellis

April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
&gt; &quot;Anastasia&quot; wrote ...
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;&gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new,
&gt;&gt; ultra-low-traffic version.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Low traffic is one thing; no traffic is entirely another.

Um, check your ISP. My news spool has 80+ posts in the last 24 hours, 120+
in the preceding 24 hours. Pretty much business as normal.

Peter

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#13: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-10 10:37:36 by Hendrik Schober

Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:AN1sg.5705$<a href="mailto:cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net..." target="_blank">cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...</a>
&gt; &gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's
&gt; &gt; been hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously
&gt; &gt; wondered whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new, ultra-low-traffic
&gt; &gt; version.
&gt;
&gt; I couldn't get on at all today when I had some time to post. AND I can't
&gt; find that link Lesley gave me for the Lspace server so I could sign up to
&gt; their service. I looked all over the web page and can't find it, so I
&gt; reckon I'm just a freakin' doof. [...]

I won't comment on your self-analysis, but I just typed
news.lspace.org into my browser's address line and that
sent me to <a href="http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/." target="_blank">http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/.</a>

[Consciously retaining Aggie's name]

&gt; Aggie

Schobi

P.S.: In case the maintainer of the above page is reading
this: &quot;Mark everything as unread&quot; (as suggested at
the bottom) won't help with OE. I can provide the
steps, though, if you're interested.

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I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

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#14: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-10 11:01:55 by esmi

on 10/07/2006 05:06 Aggie Angst said the following:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; AND I can't
&gt; find that link Lesley gave me for the Lspace server so I could sign up to
&gt; their service.

<a href="http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/" target="_blank">http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/</a>

HTH
--
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#15: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-10 15:20:56 by esmi

on 10/07/2006 09:37 Hendrik Schober said the following:
&lt;snip&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/." target="_blank">http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/.</a>
&gt; P.S.: In case the maintainer of the above page is reading
&gt; this: &quot;Mark everything as unread&quot; (as suggested at
&gt; the bottom) won't help with OE. I can provide the
&gt; steps, though, if you're interested.
&gt;

If you could send the relevant info to <a href="mailto:librarian&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">librarian&#64;lspace.org</a>, one of us
will pick it up, thanks.

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#16: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 04:54:28 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Hendrik Schober&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de" target="_blank">SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:e8t3to$let$<a href="mailto:1&#64;murphy.mediascape.de..." target="_blank">1&#64;murphy.mediascape.de...</a>
&gt; Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; &quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:AN1sg.5705$<a href="mailto:cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net..." target="_blank">cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...</a>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's
&gt;&gt; &gt; been hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously
&gt;&gt; &gt; wondered whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;taptaptap&gt; Is this thing on?
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; I'm not sure I'm completely enamored of the new, ultra-low-traffic
&gt;&gt; &gt; version.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I couldn't get on at all today when I had some time to post. AND I can't
&gt;&gt; find that link Lesley gave me for the Lspace server so I could sign up to
&gt;&gt; their service. I looked all over the web page and can't find it, so I
&gt;&gt; reckon I'm just a freakin' doof. [...]
&gt;
&gt; I won't comment on your self-analysis, but I just typed
&gt; news.lspace.org into my browser's address line and that
&gt; sent me to <a href="http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/." target="_blank">http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/.</a>
&gt;
&gt; [Consciously retaining Aggie's name]
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; Schobi

Thank you, thank you, thank you, OH thank you. ;)
&gt;
&gt; P.S.: In case the maintainer of the above page is reading
&gt; this: &quot;Mark everything as unread&quot; (as suggested at
&gt; the bottom) won't help with OE. I can provide the
&gt; steps, though, if you're interested.

Lemme see what happens...
Did I mention thank you?
:)
&gt;
Still Aggie

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#17: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-11 04:55:52 by Aggie Angst

&quot;esmi&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:esmi&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">esmi&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt; wrote in message news:e8t5cu$1us7$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl..." target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl...</a>
&gt; on 10/07/2006 05:06 Aggie Angst said the following:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; AND I can't find that link Lesley gave me for the Lspace server so I
&gt;&gt; could sign up to their service.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/" target="_blank">http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/</a>
&gt;
&gt; HTH

It does. Thank you. I'm working on it right now. Hopefully I won't send
myself through a wormhole and get lost in an alternate universe. I look
terrible in a goatee.
:)
Aggie

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#18: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 05:02:42 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Hendrik Schober&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de" target="_blank">SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:e8t3to$let$<a href="mailto:1&#64;murphy.mediascape.de..." target="_blank">1&#64;murphy.mediascape.de...</a>
&gt; Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; &quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:AN1sg.5705$<a href="mailto:cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net..." target="_blank">cd3.4212&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...</a>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Okay, the thousands of posts per were a bit hard to handle, but there's
&gt;&gt; &gt; been hardly anything today. It's been so quiet that I have seriously
&gt;&gt; &gt; wondered whether something was broken, so I'm testing.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;~~~~~~snip~~~~~~~~

&gt; I won't comment on your self-analysis, but I just typed
&gt; news.lspace.org into my browser's address line and that
&gt; sent me to <a href="http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/." target="_blank">http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/.</a>
&gt;
&gt; [Consciously retaining Aggie's name]
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; Schobi
&gt;
&gt; P.S.: In case the maintainer of the above page is reading
&gt; this: &quot;Mark everything as unread&quot; (as suggested at
&gt; the bottom) won't help with OE. I can provide the
&gt; steps, though, if you're interested.

WOOHOO! It worked. :)
I have to admit to being on OE though.
;)
Aggie

&gt;
&gt; --
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&gt; I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org
&gt;
&gt; &quot;The sarcasm is mightier than the sword.&quot;
&gt; Eric Jarvis
&gt;

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#19: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 05:30:06 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.

Don't let anyone shame you about OE. I don't use OE because I'm too
lazy to pick something else. I use OE because I've looked at various
alternatives and no newsreader has ever cropped up that meets my
better than, or even as well as, OE does.

I am, however, not _on_ OE. I'm _in front of_ it. I'm _on_ a chair.

Adrian.

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#20: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 09:16:00 by Hendrik Schober

Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; [...]
&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)

Great!

&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.

Me too. I use it from back when it wasn't even called OE
yet. I like OE6, at least in conjunction with OE-QuoteFix.

&gt; Aggie

Schobi

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#21: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 10:12:23 by Diane L

8'FED wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt;&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt;
&gt; Don't let anyone shame you about OE. I don't use OE because I'm too
&gt; lazy to pick something else. I use OE because I've looked at various
&gt; alternatives and no newsreader has ever cropped up that meets my
&gt; better than, or even as well as, OE does.

I use OE because I'm too lazy to pick something else. Or at least because
I don't have the time or the inclination to learn to use another program
when I can get OE (with Quotefix) to do what I want anyway.

Diane L.

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#22: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 10:14:38 by Stacie Hanes

Diane L wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt;&gt;&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Don't let anyone shame you about OE. I don't use OE because I'm too
&gt;&gt; lazy to pick something else. I use OE because I've looked at
&gt;&gt; various alternatives and no newsreader has ever cropped up that
&gt;&gt; meets my better than, or even as well as, OE does.
&gt;
&gt; I use OE because I'm too lazy to pick something else. Or at least
&gt; because I don't have the time or the inclination to learn to use
&gt; another program when I can get OE (with Quotefix) to do what I want
&gt; anyway.

Aye. It does what I want out of it, and I'm used to it.

I do have one problem, though, that the l-space server might have solved. I
have no problems in my own home with my wireless network, but when I'm at
school or in a hotel, I can get mail but not read newsgroups. I get an error
saying only Earthlink memeber netwroks or something. I'll see tomorrow when
I go to class.

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#23: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 13:02:37 by Helen

Anastasia wrote:
&gt; Diane L wrote:
&gt; &gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Don't let anyone shame you about OE. I don't use OE because I'm too
&gt; &gt;&gt; lazy to pick something else. I use OE because I've looked at
&gt; &gt;&gt; various alternatives and no newsreader has ever cropped up that
&gt; &gt;&gt; meets my better than, or even as well as, OE does.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I use OE because I'm too lazy to pick something else. Or at least
&gt; &gt; because I don't have the time or the inclination to learn to use
&gt; &gt; another program when I can get OE (with Quotefix) to do what I want
&gt; &gt; anyway.
&gt;
&gt; Aye. It does what I want out of it, and I'm used to it.
&gt;
&gt; I do have one problem, though, that the l-space server might have solved. I
&gt; have no problems in my own home with my wireless network, but when I'm at
&gt; school or in a hotel, I can get mail but not read newsgroups. I get an error
&gt; saying only Earthlink memeber netwroks or something. I'll see tomorrow when
&gt; I go to class.

Are you using the same ISP at work and home? Not all ISP's do
newsgroups. I found that at work I can only get newsgroups through
Google as work's ISP doesn't do newsgroups. I can't access newsgroups
through my home ISP like I can for e-mail. I can be on one ISP and
collect e-mail from another easily, but not for newsgroups.
Individual.net works and L-space probably does too.

HTH
Helen

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#24: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 14:00:18 by jester

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:14:38 GMT, Anastasia
&lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;I do have one problem, though, that the l-space server might have solved. I
&gt;have no problems in my own home with my wireless network, but when I'm at
&gt;school or in a hotel, I can get mail but not read newsgroups. I get an error
&gt;saying only Earthlink memeber netwroks or something. I'll see tomorrow when
&gt;I go to class.

Seems like they're using the fairly reasonable approach of only allowing
access to their news server from machines on their own network.

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Posted on 2006-07-11 14:47:44 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:55:52 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I look terrible in a goatee.
&gt; :)
&gt; Aggie

Which reminds me of a joke which for the sake of decency I won't share :)
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#26: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 16:09:29 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:00:18 +0000, jester wrote:

&gt; Seems like they're using the fairly reasonable approach of only allowing
&gt; access to their news server from machines on their own network.

Most if not all ISPs who run their own news server only allow their own
customers to access the content. The same principle is used as for the
outgoing mail (SMTP), no mail can [1] be sent through an ISP's mail server
from outside the network. Those who do let you read messages from outside
the metwork will almost certainly block you posting.

It basically works on your IP address (the number assigned to your
individial PC when you connect to the Internet). The news (and SMTP mail
server) will look at the IP of your PC and if the number is not between X
and Y, will say 'get lost' in computer speak :)

Many ISPs also operate the same rule for their webspace, so if you try to
modify your website at home it will work, but will fail if you try from
work (or anywhere else).[2]

[1] Clueless admins who leave open relays lying around notwithstanding.
[2] Assuming other locations use a different ISP and you're not connecting
on a laptop using your normal account.

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#27: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 16:11:46 by Julian Hall

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 22:02:42 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt; ;)
&gt; Aggie

I use Thunderbird for mail and Pan for newsgroups (in Linux). Thunderbird
has a decent news facility as I understand it, but since I used to use
Forte Agent I'm familiar with the layout of Pan.
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#28: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 18:09:09 by Stacie Hanes

Julian Hall wrote:

&gt; Many ISPs also operate the same rule for their webspace, so if you
&gt; try to modify your website at home it will work, but will fail if
&gt; you try from work (or anywhere else).[2]

&gt; [2] Assuming other locations use a different ISP
&gt; and you're not connecting on a laptop using your normal account.

That's the thing. I'm using my own laptop, the very one I am posting this
message with. Tonight before class, I'll unplug it and shove it into a bag,
and log onto the university's wireless netwrok, whereupon my newsgroups will
be unavailable.

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#29: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 18:09:09 by Stacie Hanes

Helen T wrote:
&gt; Anastasia wrote:

&gt;&gt; I do have one problem, though, that the l-space server might have
&gt;&gt; solved. I have no problems in my own home with my wireless
&gt;&gt; network, but when I'm at school or in a hotel, I can get mail but
&gt;&gt; not read newsgroups. I get an error saying only Earthlink memeber
&gt;&gt; netwroks or something. I'll see tomorrow when I go to class.
&gt;
&gt; Are you using the same ISP at work and home? Not all ISP's do
&gt; newsgroups. I found that at work I can only get newsgroups through
&gt; Google as work's ISP doesn't do newsgroups. I can't access
&gt; newsgroups through my home ISP like I can for e-mail. I can be on
&gt; one ISP and collect e-mail from another easily, but not for
&gt; newsgroups. Individual.net works and L-space probably does too.

Well, see, I don't know. I take my laptop to school, and I check my e-mail
through OW, as usual. I go through the school's wireless network, but I'm
not sure where the ISP switch happens.

So the answer is I thought so, but I'm not sure, and how can I find out?

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#30: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 18:30:41 by jester

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:09:09 GMT, Anastasia
&lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;Well, see, I don't know. I take my laptop to school, and I check my e-mail
&gt;through OW, as usual. I go through the school's wireless network, but I'm
&gt;not sure where the ISP switch happens.

As soon as you connect to the school network, unless they're also an
Earthlink customer (which I doubt, if .us schools are anything like .uk
ones.

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#31: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 18:33:44 by jester

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:30:41 +0000 (UTC), jester
&lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:09:09 GMT, Anastasia
&gt;&lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Well, see, I don't know. I take my laptop to school, and I check my e-mail
&gt;&gt;through OW, as usual. I go through the school's wireless network, but I'm
&gt;&gt;not sure where the ISP switch happens.
&gt;
&gt;As soon as you connect to the school network, unless they're also an
&gt;Earthlink customer (which I doubt, if .us schools are anything like .uk
&gt;ones.

Which seeing as we're not talking about the usage of 'school', was a silly
statement. (And my brain didn't figure it out until after I'd hit send, of
course)
You'll be going through the academic backbone which won't be Earthlink
space, therefore no access to earthlink newservers. If you're using web
access to email, that's set up to allow getting at things from outside
(the web server being inside the Earthlink network of course)

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#32: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 19:52:27 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:33:44 +0000, jester wrote:

&gt; If you're using web
&gt; access to email, that's set up to allow getting at things from outside
&gt; (the web server being inside the Earthlink network of course)

That depends on the individual network. My ex-employer blocked access to
all web based mail sites. A particularly *stupid* move since we were an
Internet Technical Support callcentre with a fair few of our calls from
customers claiming to be unable to access X website. Rather embarrassing
to have to answer 'Nor can I sir/madam, but in my case it's because I'm
not allowed to'.
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#33: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 19:55:43 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:09:09 +0000, Anastasia wrote:

&gt;&gt; [2] Assuming other locations use a different ISP
&gt;&gt; and you're not connecting on a laptop using your normal account.
&gt;
&gt; That's the thing. I'm using my own laptop, the very one I am posting this
&gt; message with. Tonight before class, I'll unplug it and shove it into a bag,
&gt; and log onto the university's wireless netwrok, whereupon my newsgroups will
&gt; be unavailable.

True, your laptop, but as you mentioned the actual connection is via the
university's network, not Earthlink. So your laptop will have been given
an IP address that Earthlink's news server doesn't recognise.

As I said it would have to be your laptop *and* the same ISP to work.
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#34: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 20:02:37 by Eric Jarvis

Anastasia <a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a> wrote in
&lt;F2Qsg.6257$<a href="mailto:ye3.2431&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">ye3.2431&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;:
&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Many ISPs also operate the same rule for their webspace, so if you
&gt; &gt; try to modify your website at home it will work, but will fail if
&gt; &gt; you try from work (or anywhere else).[2]
&gt;
&gt; &gt; [2] Assuming other locations use a different ISP
&gt; &gt; and you're not connecting on a laptop using your normal account.
&gt;
&gt; That's the thing. I'm using my own laptop, the very one I am posting this
&gt; message with. Tonight before class, I'll unplug it and shove it into a bag,
&gt; and log onto the university's wireless netwrok, whereupon my newsgroups will
&gt; be unavailable.
&gt;

Because the newsserver will see it as a request coming from the University
network.

Without getting technical [1] there are several key points that define how
Internet communications are &quot;labelled&quot;, and the actual device you are
using to access the Internet tends not to be one of them.

[1] A good idea primarily because quite a few afpers forget more about
this stuff during a tea break than I will most likely learn if I live to
be 500 years old.

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#35: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 21:09:45 by Kincaid

In article &lt;F2Qsg.6257$<a href="mailto:ye3.2431&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">ye3.2431&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
Anastasia &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Julian Hall wrote:

&gt; &gt; Many ISPs also operate the same rule for their webspace, so if you try
&gt; &gt; to modify your website at home it will work, but will fail if you try
&gt; &gt; from work (or anywhere else).[2]

&gt; &gt; [2] Assuming other locations use a different ISP and you're not
&gt; &gt; connecting on a laptop using your normal account.

&gt; That's the thing. I'm using my own laptop, the very one I am posting
&gt; this message with. Tonight before class, I'll unplug it and shove it
&gt; into a bag, and log onto the university's wireless netwrok, whereupon my
&gt; newsgroups will be unavailable.

Well, no. It's your account details, but you're now on the outside of
earthlink, not inside. So even if you're using the same name and account
details it'll still say 'get lost'.
Does your software send a login and password to the news server when
you're at home? Some ISPs will allow you to connect from outside their
networks if you supply those details.

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#36: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 22:47:00 by Stacie Hanes

jester wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:30:41 +0000 (UTC), jester
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:09:09 GMT, Anastasia
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, see, I don't know. I take my laptop to school, and I check
&gt;&gt;&gt; my e-mail through OW, as usual. I go through the school's
&gt;&gt;&gt; wireless network, but I'm not sure where the ISP switch happens.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; As soon as you connect to the school network, unless they're also
&gt;&gt; an Earthlink customer (which I doubt, if .us schools are anything
&gt;&gt; like .uk ones.
&gt;
&gt; Which seeing as we're not talking about the usage of 'school', was
&gt; a silly statement. (And my brain didn't figure it out until after
&gt; I'd hit send, of course)
&gt; You'll be going through the academic backbone which won't be
&gt; Earthlink space, therefore no access to earthlink newservers. If
&gt; you're using web access to email, that's set up to allow getting at
&gt; things from outside (the web server being inside the Earthlink
&gt; network of course)

But OE is getting the mail; I'm not going to the webmail site, if that's
what you mean.

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Posted on 2006-07-11 22:49:38 by Stacie Hanes

Kincaid wrote:

&gt; Does your software send a login and password to the news server when
&gt; you're at home?

It does.

&gt;Some ISPs will allow you to connect from outside
&gt; their networks if you supply those details.

It does not. :-(

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#38: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 23:03:25 by jester

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:47:00 GMT, Anastasia
&lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;But OE is getting the mail; I'm not going to the webmail site, if that's
&gt;what you mean.

Ah, that'd be confusing your typo of OW with Outlook Web Access (OWA).
Possibly they're just relying on normal authentication for that then
(which strikes me as nice for the customer, until somebody intercepts your
password).
Other than that, no idea what's going on then.

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#39: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-11 23:13:56 by alec

In article &lt;87Usg.6382$<a href="mailto:ye3.3593&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">ye3.3593&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a> says...
&gt; jester wrote:
&gt; &gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:30:41 +0000 (UTC), jester
&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:09:09 GMT, Anastasia
&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Well, see, I don't know. I take my laptop to school, and I check
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; my e-mail through OW, as usual. I go through the school's
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; wireless network, but I'm not sure where the ISP switch happens.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; As soon as you connect to the school network, unless they're also
&gt; &gt;&gt; an Earthlink customer (which I doubt, if .us schools are anything
&gt; &gt;&gt; like .uk ones.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Which seeing as we're not talking about the usage of 'school', was
&gt; &gt; a silly statement. (And my brain didn't figure it out until after
&gt; &gt; I'd hit send, of course)
&gt; &gt; You'll be going through the academic backbone which won't be
&gt; &gt; Earthlink space, therefore no access to earthlink newservers. If
&gt; &gt; you're using web access to email, that's set up to allow getting at
&gt; &gt; things from outside (the web server being inside the Earthlink
&gt; &gt; network of course)
&gt;
&gt; But OE is getting the mail; I'm not going to the webmail site, if that's
&gt; what you mean.

My ISP allows customer presenting the right credentials to receive to
collect mail from any address, but allows news collection only whne
connected through them. I would suspect that is the same for Earthlink.

If news.lspace.org is back, that will provide an alternative for the
pratchett nwesgroups. As often advertised, news.individual.net provides
an excellent service for very little money which can be accessed from
anywhere(10 euro pa). Also, another AFP-er has a news server to which I
was given access, and which s/he might be willing to share with others.

It is in the nature of NNTP that you cannot switch servers. Each news
server generates its own article numbers, so you cannot switch easily
between them - the news client doesn't know which articles it has
already downloaded and which it hasn't. So if travelling, it is
definitely worth getting an access-anywhere account.

You also need to worry about posting email; my ISP will allow you tro
download email from anywere, and post using its own web interface, but
not to post email except through its own channels. Whcih is why I have
routed all my email to GMail.

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#40: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 00:34:09 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:49:38 +0000, Anastasia wrote:

&gt; Kincaid wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Does your software send a login and password to the news server when
&gt;&gt; you're at home?
&gt;
&gt; It does.
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Some ISPs will allow you to connect from outside
&gt;&gt; their networks if you supply those details.
&gt;
&gt; It does not. :-(

Now that is strange. Usually ISPs operate either/or. Either they ask for
a UID and PWD or they block based on IP. Odd to see one that requires
both.
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#41: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 01:33:50 by Aggie Angst

&quot;8'FED&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:e8v5t6$2ljo$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl..." target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl...</a>
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt;&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt;
&gt; Don't let anyone shame you about OE. I don't use OE because I'm too
&gt; lazy to pick something else. I use OE because I've looked at various
&gt; alternatives and no newsreader has ever cropped up that meets my
&gt; better than, or even as well as, OE does.
&gt;
&gt; I am, however, not _on_ OE. I'm _in front of_ it. I'm _on_ a chair.
&gt;
I find chairs much more comfortable myself.
;)
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#42: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 01:46:52 by Aggie Angst

Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; [...]
&gt;&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt;
&gt; Great!
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt;
&gt; Me too. I use it from back when it wasn't even called OE
&gt; yet. I like OE6, at least in conjunction with OE-QuoteFix.

I've just now installed QuoteFix and it really helps.

Aggie

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#43: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 01:47:51 by Aggie Angst

Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 22:02:42 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt;&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt;&gt; ;)
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; I use Thunderbird for mail and Pan for newsgroups (in Linux).
&gt; Thunderbird has a decent news facility as I understand it, but since
&gt; I used to use Forte Agent I'm familiar with the layout of Pan.

I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so long,
Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these days. ;)
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Posted on 2006-07-12 01:48:37 by Aggie Angst

Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:55:52 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I look terrible in a goatee.
&gt;&gt; :)

&gt; Which reminds me of a joke which for the sake of decency I won't
&gt; share :)

You better not lest I wag my finger at you!
;)
Aggie

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#45: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 01:49:24 by Aggie Angst

Diane L wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; WOOHOO! It worked. :)
&gt;&gt;&gt; I have to admit to being on OE though.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Don't let anyone shame you about OE. I don't use OE because I'm too
&gt;&gt; lazy to pick something else. I use OE because I've looked at various
&gt;&gt; alternatives and no newsreader has ever cropped up that meets my
&gt;&gt; better than, or even as well as, OE does.
&gt;
&gt; I use OE because I'm too lazy to pick something else. Or at least
&gt; because I don't have the time or the inclination to learn to use
&gt; another program when I can get OE (with Quotefix) to do what I want
&gt; anyway.
&gt; Diane L.

Thank you for the name of the program. It clears things up quite a bit.
:)
Aggie

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#46: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 05:04:59 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; Hendrik Schober wrote:

&gt;&gt; Me too. I use it from back when it wasn't even called OE
&gt;&gt; yet. I like OE6, at least in conjunction with OE-QuoteFix.
&gt;
&gt; I've just now installed QuoteFix and it really helps.

I think OE is just fine without QuoteFix, and am not in the least
tempted by the latter.

Adrian.

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Posted on 2006-07-12 10:14:15 by elfin

On 12/07/2006 00:47, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; Julian Hall wrote:

&gt;&gt; I use Thunderbird for mail and Pan for newsgroups (in Linux).
&gt;&gt; Thunderbird has a decent news facility as I understand it, but
&gt;&gt; since I used to use Forte Agent I'm familiar with the layout of
&gt;&gt; Pan.
&gt;
&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these
&gt; days.

Trying to use Firefox for news or email would be a tad confusing,
maybe something to do with the fact that it is a web broswer.

Switching from OE to Thunderbird is actually quite painless, as the
interface is similar(ish).

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#48: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-12 13:04:23 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:48:37 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; You better not lest I wag my finger at you!
&gt; ;)
&gt; Aggie

Eek! Finger wagging at dawn! ;)
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#49: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 13:43:43 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:47:51 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so long,
&gt; Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these days. ;)
&gt; Aggie

I'm sure it would, as Firefox is a browser and OE is an email client :)

/me runs from the wagging finger! ;)

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#50: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-12 15:17:07 by Arthur Hagen

elfin &lt;<a href="mailto:elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; On 12/07/2006 00:47, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt;&gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these
&gt;&gt; days.
&gt;
&gt; Trying to use Firefox for news or email would be a tad confusing,
&gt; maybe something to do with the fact that it is a web broswer.
&gt;
&gt; Switching from OE to Thunderbird is actually quite painless, as the
&gt; interface is similar(ish).

For integrated email, there's always Seamonkey, which is the successor to
Mozilla Suite, which is the successor to Netscape.

<a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/" target="_blank">http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/</a>

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#51: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 18:13:25 by Hendrik Schober

8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; &gt; Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Me too. I use it from back when it wasn't even called OE
&gt; &gt; &gt; yet. I like OE6, at least in conjunction with OE-QuoteFix.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I've just now installed QuoteFix and it really helps.
&gt;
&gt; I think OE is just fine without QuoteFix, and am not in the least
&gt; tempted by the latter.

Heretic!

:o&gt;

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#52: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-12 18:14:25 by Hendrik Schober

elfin &lt;<a href="mailto:elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; [...]
&gt; Switching from OE to Thunderbird is actually quite painless, as the
&gt; interface is similar(ish).

Been there, done that, and came back to OE.

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#53: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 18:49:49 by Mike Stevens

Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; That depends on the individual network. My ex-employer blocked
&gt; access to all web based mail sites. A particularly *stupid* move
&gt; since we were an Internet Technical Support callcentre with a fair
&gt; few of our calls from customers claiming to be unable to access X
&gt; website. Rather embarrassing to have to answer 'Nor can I sir/madam,
&gt; but in my case it's because I'm not allowed to'.

Some year ago I had a friend who worked for British Telecom (actually its so
long ago that it might noit have had that name). He was highly amused when
they had a memo come round the office saying that they needed to get
permission from higher management for every international 'phone call they
made. My friend's job was arranging the international hook-up of
connections for TV signals!

A nice story he used to tell was of the day he 'phoned the BBC in London :

&quot;I expect you want the usual TV link to Bethlehem on Christmas morning.&quot;
&quot;Oh, yes, we do.&quot;
&quot;Well, the dealine for booking was three monthe ago, and you didn't.&quot;
&quot;Gulp&quot;
&quot;So it's just as well I booked it for you, isn't it?&quot;


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#54: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-12 20:30:28 by Gonzoid the Gonzo Lager

&gt;On 12/07/2006 00:47, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these
&gt; days.

Aggie... did y'mean Mozilla? Because the Mozilla browser is an
all-in-one: web, IRC, newsreader, mailreader and web composer.

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#55: Re: [I] L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-12 21:33:41 by Diane L

8'FED wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Me too. I use it from back when it wasn't even called OE
&gt;&gt;&gt; yet. I like OE6, at least in conjunction with OE-QuoteFix.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I've just now installed QuoteFix and it really helps.
&gt;
&gt; I think OE is just fine without QuoteFix, and am not in the least
&gt; tempted by the latter.

I like the colours, and the automatic quote-snipping. And even though
I don't have a .sig I like the fact that I *could * have a .sig and the
separator wouldn't be broken.

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#56: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-13 00:05:40 by Stacie Hanes

Gonzoid wrote:
&gt;&gt; On 12/07/2006 00:47, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt;&gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these
&gt;&gt; days.
&gt;
&gt; Aggie... did y'mean Mozilla? Because the Mozilla browser is an
&gt; all-in-one: web, IRC, newsreader, mailreader and web composer.

How ya doing, Gonz'? Been a while since I've seen you, the DW yahoo list is
so low-traffic.

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#57: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-13 16:26:43 by Lister

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:14:25 +0200, &quot;Hendrik Schober&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de" target="_blank">SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;elfin &lt;<a href="mailto:elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; [...]
&gt;&gt; Switching from OE to Thunderbird is actually quite painless, as the
&gt;&gt; interface is similar(ish).
&gt;
&gt; Been there, done that, and came back to OE.


Ah well, there's really no helping some people :)

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#58: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-13 17:43:23 by matt

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:26:43 +0100, Lister wrote:

&gt; On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:14:25 +0200, &quot;Hendrik Schober&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de" target="_blank">SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de</a>&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;elfin &lt;<a href="mailto:elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
&gt;&gt;&gt; Switching from OE to Thunderbird is actually quite painless, as the
&gt;&gt;&gt; interface is similar(ish).
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Been there, done that, and came back to OE
&gt;
&gt; Ah well, there's really no helping some people :)

I was about to comment that I didn't like Thunderbird for news (or email,
to be honest) but I tried it out again and it's much better now. Last time
I tried it (more than a year ago) it felt clunky. I'll be sticking with
Pan though.

I used Opera briefly, but found it couldn't cope with 20000+ posts in one
newsgroup and corrupted and crashed frequently, that was version 7 though,
does anyone use AFP with version 9?

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#59: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-13 20:03:05 by Thomas Zahr

Pudde Fjord posted:

....

&gt; Go get some tan (depending on local weather...) from
&gt; something else than a computer screen.

Erm, what is that something else? And, can I buy it on the internet?

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#60: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-14 13:09:05 by the Tinfoil Hat of Reason

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:43:23 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Matt, influenced
tha intarweb to propagate the following:

&gt; I used Opera briefly, but found it couldn't cope with 20000+ posts in
&gt; one newsgroup and corrupted and crashed frequently, that was version 7
&gt; though, does anyone use AFP with version 9?

I have,but find that with only 64MB it spends too much time in
swapoutville (and yes, the stability could be better). Pan is (somewhat)
faster, and more stable.

C:\&gt;

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#61: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-16 03:54:27 by Gonzoid the Gonzo Lager

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:05:40 GMT, &quot;Anastasia&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;How ya doing, Gonz'? Been a while since I've seen you, the DW yahoo list is
&gt;so low-traffic.
Oh, I check in from time to time. So many new people it's hard to get
to back into ye olde afp rhythm.

So what have I missed? And does the Lspace news server still serve
news?

The Gonz'

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#62: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:15:05 by Aggie Angst

Arthur Hagen wrote:
&gt; elfin &lt;<a href="mailto:elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; On 12/07/2006 00:47, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt;&gt;&gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these
&gt;&gt;&gt; days.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Trying to use Firefox for news or email would be a tad confusing,
&gt;&gt; maybe something to do with the fact that it is a web broswer.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Switching from OE to Thunderbird is actually quite painless, as the
&gt;&gt; interface is similar(ish).
&gt;
&gt; For integrated email, there's always Seamonkey, which is the
&gt; successor to Mozilla Suite, which is the successor to Netscape.
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/" target="_blank">http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/</a>
&gt;

Oooh... it's free. My favorite kind!
:)
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#63: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:18:05 by Aggie Angst

Gonzoid wrote:
&gt;&gt; On 12/07/2006 00:47, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt;&gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these
&gt;&gt; days.
&gt;
&gt; Aggie... did y'mean Mozilla? Because the Mozilla browser is an
&gt; all-in-one: web, IRC, newsreader, mailreader and web composer.
&gt;
&gt; The Gonz'

Yes I did. You have to watch out for me cuz when I'm not drunk, I'm often
indulging in illegal pharmaceuticals.
;)
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#64: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:19:41 by Aggie Angst

Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:47:51 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt;&gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these days.
&gt;&gt; ;) Aggie
&gt;
&gt; I'm sure it would, as Firefox is a browser and OE is an email client
&gt; :)
&gt;
&gt; /me runs from the wagging finger! ;)

Go ahead, gimme a hard time.
I got a gang o' trained crows an' I'm not afraid to use 'em !
:)
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#65: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-16 10:25:23 by Johan van Selst

Once upon a newsgroup, Gonzoid claimed:
] So what have I missed?

Something about everything being better in ye good ol' days.

] And does the Lspace news server still serve news?

It's a new server actually, but yes, it serves.
See <a href="http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/" target="_blank">http://www.lspace.org/fandom/news/</a> for details.


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Posted on 2006-07-17 09:28:12 by Hendrik Schober

Thomas Zahr &lt;<a href="mailto:ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de" target="_blank">ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Pudde Fjord posted:
&gt;
&gt; ...
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Go get some tan (depending on local weather...) from
&gt; &gt; something else than a computer screen.
&gt;
&gt; Erm, what is that something else? And, can I buy it on the internet?

No. And There's even worse news: You can't write a
program that creates it for you either.

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#67: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-17 09:29:49 by Hendrik Schober

Matt &lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;xaxa.eu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;xaxa.eu</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:26:43 +0100, Lister wrote:
&gt; &gt; On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:14:25 +0200, &quot;Hendrik Schober&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de" target="_blank">SpamTrap&#64;gmx.de</a>&gt;
&gt; &gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; elfin &lt;<a href="mailto:elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk" target="_blank">elfin&#64;blueyonder.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [...]
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Switching from OE to Thunderbird is actually quite painless, as the
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; interface is similar(ish).
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Been there, done that, and came back to OE
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Ah well, there's really no helping some people :)
&gt;
&gt; I was about to comment that I didn't like Thunderbird for news (or email,
&gt; to be honest) but I tried it out again and it's much better now. Last time
&gt; I tried it (more than a year ago) it felt clunky. [...]

Ah, thanks. I might have a look again myself then.

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#68: Re: [I] L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-17 15:02:36 by Hendrik Schober

Johan van Selst &lt;{a.f.p.}@news.gletsjer.org&gt; wrote:
&gt; [...]
&gt; ] And does the Lspace news server still serve news?
&gt;
&gt; It's a new server actually, but yes, it serves.

That makes it a new news server.
A serving new news server, in fact. Impressive.

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#69: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-17 15:31:28 by Hendrik Schober

Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; &gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:47:51 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; I tried Firefox awhile back, but I had been looking at OE for so
&gt; &gt; &gt; long, Firefox confused me, which doesn't take much doing these days.
&gt; &gt; &gt; ;) Aggie
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I'm sure it would, as Firefox is a browser and OE is an email client
&gt; &gt; :)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; /me runs from the wagging finger! ;)
&gt;
&gt; Go ahead, gimme a hard time.
&gt; I got a gang o' trained crows an' I'm not afraid to use 'em !

[This one's for Örjan and Eric, actually.]


And no-one saw Julian go and the weeks flew by
Until we moved on the show leaving his postings behind
While a murder of crows did circle round
First one, then the others flapping blackly down

&gt; Aggie

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#70: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-17 15:40:42 by Orjan Westin

Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; /me runs from the wagging finger! ;)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Go ahead, gimme a hard time.
&gt;&gt; I got a gang o' trained crows an' I'm not afraid to use 'em !
&gt;
&gt; [This one's for Örjan and Eric, actually.]
&gt;
&gt; And no-one saw Julian go and the weeks flew by
&gt; Until we moved on the show leaving his postings behind
&gt; While a murder of crows did circle round
&gt; First one, then the others flapping blackly down

*g*

Nice one. Go on, do the whole lyrics.

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Posted on 2006-07-17 16:11:29 by Hendrik Schober

Orjan Westin &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;cunobaros.com" target="_blank">nospam&#64;cunobaros.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt; &gt; Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; /me runs from the wagging finger! ;)
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Go ahead, gimme a hard time.
&gt; &gt; &gt; I got a gang o' trained crows an' I'm not afraid to use 'em !
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; [This one's for Örjan and Eric, actually.]
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; And no-one saw Julian go and the weeks flew by
&gt; &gt; Until we moved on the show leaving his postings behind
&gt; &gt; While a murder of crows did circle round
&gt; &gt; First one, then the others flapping blackly down
&gt;
&gt; *g*
&gt;
&gt; Nice one. Go on, do the whole lyrics.

&lt;hides under the table&gt;

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#72: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-17 18:07:25 by Julian Hall

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:18:05 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Yes I did. You have to watch out for me cuz when I'm not drunk, I'm often
&gt; indulging in illegal pharmaceuticals.
&gt; ;)
&gt; Aggie
&gt; The little green wheels are following me...
&gt; Oh no, not again.

*mental note* Keep Aggie away from the moth balls and baking powder.

Not illegal, just *very* illadvised.

Apparently.

So I'm told.

By someone else, not the voices (who are being curiously quiet on the
issue) :)
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#73: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-17 18:08:59 by Julian Hall

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:19:41 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Go ahead, gimme a hard time.
&gt; I got a gang o' trained crows an' I'm not afraid to use 'em !
&gt; :)
&gt; Aggie

Now that's no way to talk about Esme and Gytha..

Ohh sorry 'crows'.. oopsie

Are they trained in martial arts? Ninja crows?
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#74: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-17 22:54:49 by Arthur Hagen

Thomas Zahr &lt;<a href="mailto:ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de" target="_blank">ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Pudde Fjord posted:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Go get some tan (depending on local weather...) from
&gt;&gt; something else than a computer screen.
&gt;
&gt; Erm, what is that something else? And, can I buy it on the internet?

Sure. <a href="http://www.sun.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sun.com/</a>

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#75: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-17 23:15:41 by Daibhid Ceannaideach

The time: 17 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: &quot;Arthur Hagen&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>&gt;

&gt; Thomas Zahr &lt;<a href="mailto:ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de" target="_blank">ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Pudde Fjord posted:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Go get some tan (depending on local weather...) from
&gt;&gt;&gt; something else than a computer screen.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Erm, what is that something else? And, can I buy it on the
&gt;&gt; internet?
&gt;
&gt; Sure. <a href="http://www.sun.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sun.com/</a>

Heh. Nice.


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Posted on 2006-07-18 11:40:08 by Hendrik Schober

Julian Hall &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:19:41 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Go ahead, gimme a hard time.
&gt; &gt; I got a gang o' trained crows an' I'm not afraid to use 'em !
&gt; &gt; :)
&gt; &gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; Now that's no way to talk about Esme and Gytha..
&gt;
&gt; Ohh sorry 'crows'.. oopsie
&gt;
&gt; Are they trained in martial arts? Ninja crows?

If it's Gytha, then she's trained in marital arts.

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#77: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-19 03:13:09 by Julian Hall

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:31:28 +0200, Hendrik Schober wrote:

&gt; And no-one saw Julian go and the weeks flew by
&gt; Until we moved on the show leaving his postings behind
&gt; While a murder of crows did circle round
&gt; First one, then the others flapping blackly down

*mildly puzzled look*
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#78: Re: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?

Posted on 2006-07-19 10:32:01 by the Tinfoil Hat of Reason

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:54:49 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Arthur Hagen,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:

&gt; Thomas Zahr &lt;<a href="mailto:ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de" target="_blank">ThomasZahr0606&#64;zahr-mail.de</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Pudde Fjord posted:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Go get some tan (depending on local weather...) from something else
&gt;&gt;&gt; than a computer screen.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Erm, what is that something else? And, can I buy it on the internet?
&gt;
&gt; Sure. <a href="http://www.sun.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sun.com/</a>
&gt;
&gt; Regards,

Of course, I had to follow the link[0] and on viewing the header
advertisement^H Image, that withered thing that is my sense of humour
supplied &quot;This is our new fan-heater&quot;.

(gd&amp;r)

C:\&gt;

[0] Haven't been to sun.com recently.

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#79: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-19 11:12:45 by Orjan Westin

Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:31:28 +0200, Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; And no-one saw Julian go and the weeks flew by
&gt;&gt; Until we moved on the show leaving his postings behind
&gt;&gt; While a murder of crows did circle round
&gt;&gt; First one, then the others flapping blackly down
&gt;
&gt; *mildly puzzled look*

It's a paraphrase of Nick Cave's song &quot;The Carny&quot;.

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#80: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-19 11:14:19 by Hendrik Schober

Julian Hall &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:31:28 +0200, Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; And no-one saw Julian go and the weeks flew by
&gt; &gt; Until we moved on the show leaving his postings behind
&gt; &gt; While a murder of crows did circle round
&gt; &gt; First one, then the others flapping blackly down
&gt;
&gt; *mildly puzzled look*

<a href="http://www.google.de/search?q=%22First+one%2C+then+the+others+flapping+blackly+down%22" target="_blank"> http://www.google.de/search?q=%22First+one%2C+then+the+other s+flapping+blackly+down%22</a>

You have to hear him singing it, though, to really
appreciate the lyrics. IMO, anyway.

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#81: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:32:32 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:08 +0200, Hendrik Schober wrote:

&gt; If it's Gytha, then she's trained in marital arts.
&gt;
&gt; Schobi

So is Esme, called out a few times IIRC. Not as much as Gytha though :)
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#82: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:42:20 by Diane L

Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:08 +0200, Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; If it's Gytha, then she's trained in marital arts.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Schobi
&gt;
&gt; So is Esme, called out a few times IIRC. Not as much as Gytha though
&gt; :)

She was able to catch a unicorn, which pretty much rules her out
of the marital arts stakes.

Diane L.

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#83: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-19 17:10:09 by Philippa Cowderoy

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Diane L wrote:

&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; &gt; So is Esme, called out a few times IIRC. Not as much as Gytha though
&gt; &gt; :)
&gt;
&gt; She was able to catch a unicorn, which pretty much rules her out
&gt; of the marital arts stakes.
&gt;

Depends somewhat on your definitions of both virgin and marital arts.

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#84: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-20 05:33:03 by Stacie Hanes

Diane L wrote:
&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:08 +0200, Hendrik Schober wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; If it's Gytha, then she's trained in marital arts.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Schobi
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; So is Esme, called out a few times IIRC. Not as much as Gytha
&gt;&gt; though :)
&gt;
&gt; She was able to catch a unicorn, which pretty much rules her out
&gt; of the marital arts stakes.

Yet she bews the most potent aphrodisiac know to the Disc (except possibly
Nanny Ogg's pudding). That's got to be worth something.
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#85: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-21 00:57:07 by raltbos

Philippa Cowderoy &lt;<a href="mailto:flippa&#64;flippac.org" target="_blank">flippa&#64;flippac.org</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Diane L wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; So is Esme, called out a few times IIRC. Not as much as Gytha though
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; She was able to catch a unicorn, which pretty much rules her out
&gt; &gt; of the marital arts stakes.
&gt;
&gt; Depends somewhat on your definitions of both virgin and marital arts.

And &quot;trained&quot;. One does not have to practice what one studies, or there
wouldn't be any astronomers - going nova is a big career-limiting move.

Richard

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#86: Re: L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:19:54 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Julian Hall&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:pan.2006.07.17.16.07.25.560042&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk..." target="_blank">pan.2006.07.17.16.07.25.560042&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk...</a>
&gt; On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:18:05 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yes I did. You have to watch out for me cuz when I'm not drunk, I'm
&gt;&gt; often
&gt;&gt; indulging in illegal pharmaceuticals.
&gt;&gt; ;)
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;&gt; The little green wheels are following me...
&gt;&gt; Oh no, not again.
&gt;
&gt; *mental note* Keep Aggie away from the moth balls and baking powder.
&gt;
&gt; Not illegal, just *very* illadvised.
&gt;
&gt; Apparently.
&gt;
&gt; So I'm told.
&gt;
&gt; By someone else, not the voices (who are being curiously quiet on the
&gt; issue) :)

The voices were extremely quiet. I haven't been able to log on here until
now. My OE server, L-Space, and Google Groups wouldn't let me on. I know
Mercury is in retrograde, but that was ridiculous. Google wouldn't accept
my password, even though I positive it was correct. My OE news server is
terminally screwed, and it seems the L-Space server actually cooked itself
in the heat.

I wonder if folks during the Ice Age had as much trouble?
:p
Aggie

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#87: Re: L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-21 13:53:25 by Julian Hall

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:10:09 +0100, Philippa Cowderoy wrote:

&gt; On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Diane L wrote:
&gt;&gt; She was able to catch a unicorn, which pretty much rules her out
&gt;&gt; of the marital arts stakes.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Depends somewhat on your definitions of both virgin and marital arts.

Swap the T and the I? Ninja Granny!

(AHA! That's where the car keys were!)
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#88: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server (was: [I] Good Grief, is AFP Down for Repair?)

Posted on 2006-07-22 23:29:05 by FiX01

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:47:00 GMT, &quot;Anastasia&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:

[Anastasia cannot connect to her new server at school)
&gt;But OE is getting the mail; I'm not going to the webmail site, if that's
&gt;what you mean.

Can you access the l-space news server at school? If not, the issue
may be that your schools filters based on protocol: you can get mail,
but not news. If you can't connect to the lspace news server at
school, I'd suggest discussing with your school's netadmin (or
sysadmin)...

*I* need to discuss with the tework admin in den Haag: can't be arsed
to post through Google monstrosity and nntp is barred...

FiX

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#89: Re: -[I]- L-Space news server

Posted on 2006-07-23 08:17:51 by Thomas Zahr

FiX posted:

....

&gt; *I* need to discuss with the tework admin in den Haag:
&gt; can't be arsed to post through Google monstrosity and nntp
&gt; is barred...

If they can't be persuaded, have a look at http-tunnel

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