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#1: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 11:26:50 by Mark Lowes

So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
spot?

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#2: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 12:15:49 by CeltiKaos

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:26:50 +0100, The Flying Hamster wrote:

&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get the
&gt; mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying little
&gt; umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best spot?

Uh no but thank you for sharing :)

*LOL*
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#3: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 12:23:34 by esmi

on 30/06/2006 10:26 The Flying Hamster said the following:
&lt;snip&gt;
&gt; anyone else get
&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt; spot?

Ah but are these all English voles? If not, you can bet that the German
voles will get there first and nab all of the best spots. When the
English voles do arrive, they'll probably spend all of their time trying
to erect windbreaks and muttering that it looks like it's about to rain.

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#4: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 12:37:17 by Gid Holyoake

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>&gt;, The Flying
Hamster generously decided to share with us..

&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt; spot?

You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(

Gid

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#5: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 15:09:51 by Arwen Lune

In article &lt;e82umt$fqa$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>&gt;, esmi proclaimed...

&gt; on 30/06/2006 10:26 The Flying Hamster said the following:

&gt; &gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank
&gt; &gt; carrying little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all
&gt; &gt; looking for the best spot?
&gt;
&gt; Ah but are these all English voles? If not, you can bet
&gt; that the German voles will get there first and nab all
&gt; of the best spots. When the English voles do arrive,
&gt; they'll probably spend all of their time trying to erect
&gt; windbreaks and muttering that it looks like it's about to rain.

The German voles will dig large holes to mark their spots. And the
Dutch voles will start building forts at the waterline to defend
against the tide.

Cheers,
Arwen (we can't help it, it's in our genes)
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off your arse - we've got a war to win.&quot; | And the King stands.

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#6: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 18:32:24 by Jeff C

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:09:51 +0200, Arwen Lune wrote:

&gt; In article &lt;e82umt$fqa$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>&gt;, esmi proclaimed...
&gt;
&gt;&gt; on 30/06/2006 10:26 The Flying Hamster said the following:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank
&gt;&gt; &gt; carrying little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all
&gt;&gt; &gt; looking for the best spot?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Ah but are these all English voles? If not, you can bet
&gt;&gt; that the German voles will get there first and nab all
&gt;&gt; of the best spots. When the English voles do arrive,
&gt;&gt; they'll probably spend all of their time trying to erect
&gt;&gt; windbreaks and muttering that it looks like it's about to rain.
&gt;
&gt; The German voles will dig large holes to mark their spots. And the
&gt; Dutch voles will start building forts at the waterline to defend
&gt; against the tide.
&gt;
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; Arwen (we can't help it, it's in our genes)

And the American voles will gather together and complain loudly that the
food's just not like the food at home and all these foreigners are taking
up all the best spots and when can they go to McDonalds?

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#7: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 19:09:46 by Mark Foweraker

Gid Holyoake wrote:
&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>&gt;, The Flying
&gt; Hamster generously decided to share with us..
&gt;
&gt;&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt;&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt;&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt;&gt; spot?
&gt;
&gt; You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
&gt; sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(
&gt;
&gt; Gid
My thoughts exactly when reading the original post is that it will be
the mink who will be getting their BBQs out :-( :'(

Ban the Mink!!!
Ban the Grey Squirrel!!!
Ban the Knotweed!!!
Proclamation on behalf of the Xenophobic Flora and Fauna Society

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#8: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 19:27:53 by jester

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:09:46 +0100, Mark Foweraker
&lt;<a href="mailto:markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&lt;trim&gt;
&gt;Ban the Knotweed!!!

Actually, it is. (Well, the Japanese version).
You would be amazed how much it costs to have that stuff properly disposed
of.

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#9: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 19:59:05 by Suzi

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrneaanop.37g.usenet&#64;angel.jester.nu" target="_blank">slrneaanop.37g.usenet&#64;angel.jester.nu</a>&gt;, jester
<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a> wibbled...

&gt; On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:09:46 +0100, Mark Foweraker
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &lt;trim&gt;
&gt; &gt;Ban the Knotweed!!!
&gt;
&gt; Actually, it is. (Well, the Japanese version).
&gt; You would be amazed how much it costs to have that stuff properly disposed
&gt; of.

We aren't allowed to &quot;export&quot; soil from our garden as to do so would be
breaking the law - we have Japanese Knotweed (although it is diminishing
after the 6 years Gid has spent in the eradication programme)

Suzi

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#10: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 22:07:14 by Lesley Weston

in article 44a55af7$<a href="mailto:1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com" target="_blank">1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com</a>, Mark Foweraker at
<a href="mailto:markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com</a> wrote on 30/06/2006 10:09 AM:

&gt; Gid Holyoake wrote:
&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>&gt;, The Flying
&gt;&gt; Hamster generously decided to share with us..
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt;&gt;&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt;&gt;&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt;&gt;&gt; spot?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
&gt;&gt; sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Gid
&gt; My thoughts exactly when reading the original post is that it will be
&gt; the mink who will be getting their BBQs out :-( :'(
&gt;
&gt; Ban the Mink!!!
&gt; Ban the Grey Squirrel!!!
&gt; Ban the Knotweed!!!
&gt; Proclamation on behalf of the Xenophobic Flora and Fauna Society

Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
exterminate any animals, though.

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#11: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-06-30 22:43:04 by Suzi

In article &lt;C0CAD2C1.4AECA%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;, Lesley
Weston <a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a> wibbled...

[Snip]
&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt; exterminate any animals, though.

We have Yellow Loosestrife. And Knotweed. And Mare's Tails. And I think
all the slugs from South West Wales!

Suzi

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#12: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 01:19:53 by nomail

The Flying Hamster &lt;<a href="mailto:hamster&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">hamster&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt; spot?

So, who's &quot;they&quot;, and, seriously, why?

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#13: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 01:25:37 by nomail

Lesley Weston &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt; exterminate any animals, though.

I nominate pigeons and seagulls.

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#14: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 03:02:42 by Jeff C

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:25:37 +0000, Boyd Bottorff wrote:

&gt; Lesley Weston &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt;&gt; exterminate any animals, though.
&gt;
&gt; I nominate pigeons and seagulls.

And Starlings.

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#15: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 08:29:04 by Mark Lowes

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:19:53 GMT, Boyd Bottorff &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; The Flying Hamster &lt;<a href="mailto:hamster&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">hamster&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt;&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt;&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt;&gt; spot?
&gt;
&gt; So, who's &quot;they&quot;, and, seriously, why?

<a href="http://korenwolf.livejournal.com/friends/" target="_blank">http://korenwolf.livejournal.com/friends/</a>

Reintroducing the water vole to a length of a certain river after
they've &quot;de-minked&quot; the area. The mink has been dining out on vole
since it was released in this country.

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#16: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 08:29:41 by Mark Lowes

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:37:17 +0100, Gid Holyoake &lt;<a href="mailto:abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk" target="_blank">abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>&gt;, The Flying
&gt; Hamster generously decided to share with us..
&gt;
&gt;&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt;&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt;&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt;&gt; spot?
&gt;
&gt; You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
&gt; sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(

Ahhh, no local mink, however I'm sure the out-of-towners will move in
once they realise a new eatery has opened.

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#17: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 08:41:51 by Mark Lowes

On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 07:29:04 +0100, The Flying Hamster &lt;<a href="mailto:hamster&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">hamster&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:19:53 GMT, Boyd Bottorff &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; The Flying Hamster &lt;<a href="mailto:hamster&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">hamster&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt;&gt;&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt;&gt;&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt;&gt;&gt; spot?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; So, who's &quot;they&quot;, and, seriously, why?
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://korenwolf.livejournal.com/friends/" target="_blank">http://korenwolf.livejournal.com/friends/</a>

Pah, sodding cut-n-paste

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/5130908.stm" target="_blank"> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/5130908.st m</a>


&gt;
&gt; Reintroducing the water vole to a length of a certain river after
&gt; they've &quot;de-minked&quot; the area. The mink has been dining out on vole
&gt; since it was released in this country.
&gt;


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#18: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 09:31:01 by Gideon Hallett

The Flying Hamster &lt;<a href="mailto:hamster&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">hamster&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt; wrote in
news:<a href="mailto:slrneac5hg.rc5.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrneac5hg.rc5.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>:

&gt; On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:19:53 GMT, Boyd Bottorff
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; The Flying Hamster &lt;<a href="mailto:hamster&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">hamster&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings,
&gt;&gt;&gt; anyone else get the mental image of 500 voles rushing for
&gt;&gt;&gt; the water bank carrying little umbrellas, water wings and
&gt;&gt;&gt; BBQ kit all looking for the best spot?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; So, who's &quot;they&quot;, and, seriously, why?
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://korenwolf.livejournal.com/friends/" target="_blank">http://korenwolf.livejournal.com/friends/</a>
&gt;
&gt; Reintroducing the water vole to a length of a certain river
&gt; after they've &quot;de-minked&quot; the area. The mink has been dining
&gt; out on vole since it was released in this country.

Mind you, it isn't just mink; the change in UK farming practices
over the last 60 years has also been pretty harmful to voles -
IIRC, the population has reduced by 89% since about 1930; and
anything that eats voles as a first choice (like foxes) has had to
look around for another staple diet.

cheers,

Gideon.

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#19: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 09:56:28 by Mark Foweraker

Boyd Bottorff wrote:
&gt; Lesley Weston &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt;&gt; exterminate any animals, though.
&gt;
&gt; I nominate pigeons and seagulls.
Whilst I agree that both are 'rats on wings' both are native 'rats on
wings' and therefore do not get the ire of the Xenophobic Flora and
Fauna Society. Collared Doves (like a pocket sized Wood Pigeon) do
however count!

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#20: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 13:23:38 by CeltiKaos

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:43:04 +0100, Suzi wrote:

&gt; We have Yellow Loosestrife. And Knotweed. And Mare's Tails. And I think
&gt; all the slugs from South West Wales!
&gt;
&gt; Suzi

No my Dad has some too.. but if you'd *like* the rest I'm sure an exchange
programme could be arranged :)
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#21: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 13:30:12 by SteveD

On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 07:29:04 +0100, The Flying Hamster &lt;<a href="mailto:hamster&#64;lspace.org" target="_blank">hamster&#64;lspace.org</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;The mink has been dining out on vole
&gt;since it was released in this country.

Sort of a vole au vent, really.

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#22: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 16:26:48 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:C0CAD2C1.4AECA%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt; in article 44a55af7$<a href="mailto:1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com" target="_blank">1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com</a>, Mark Foweraker at
&gt; <a href="mailto:markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com</a> wrote on 30/06/2006 10:09 AM:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Gid Holyoake wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>&gt;, The Flying
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hamster generously decided to share with us..
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; spot?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
&gt;&gt;&gt; sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Gid
&gt;&gt; My thoughts exactly when reading the original post is that it will be
&gt;&gt; the mink who will be getting their BBQs out :-( :'(
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Ban the Mink!!!
&gt;&gt; Ban the Grey Squirrel!!!
&gt;&gt; Ban the Knotweed!!!
&gt;&gt; Proclamation on behalf of the Xenophobic Flora and Fauna Society
&gt;
&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt; exterminate any animals, though.

Our dumbass, idiot governor just lifted the hunting ban on alligators even
though they're still supposed to be protected. Alligator's are losing
habitat left and right here because of over-development, so alligators are
having more human contact. Of course this is the alligator's fault and they
can be killed now to keep them out of people's way. I have decided that
stupid people have too much power in this state. :p And when stupid people
become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.

Alligator Advocate Aggie
IQ tests for all public officials!

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#23: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 16:53:39 by Brenda

Aggie Angst said:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; I have decided that stupid people have too much power in this state. :p

That's democracy for you.

&gt; And when stupid people become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.

That's democracy for you.

&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie

That's alligarchy for you. :-)

&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!

Such tests are discriminatory. Why should being a clueless buffoon make you
unsuitable to make decisions affecting hundreds, thousands, or millions of
people?

Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of &quot;50%&quot;.
Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact that
someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
shoelaces). More likely, &quot;50%&quot; would be interpreted as IQ of 50, and I've
found too-long-forgotten loaves of bread with higher IQs than that.

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#24: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 17:15:57 by alec

In article &lt;ICvpg.1016$<a href="mailto:cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> says...

&gt; Our dumbass, idiot governor just lifted the hunting ban on alligators even
&gt; though they're still supposed to be protected. Alligator's are losing
&gt; habitat left and right here because of over-development, so alligators are
&gt; having more human contact. Of course this is the alligator's fault and they
&gt; can be killed now to keep them out of people's way. I have decided that
&gt; stupid people have too much power in this state. :p And when stupid people
&gt; become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.

Old news, I am afraid. Thus is has bean since Classical Greece, at
least.

&gt;
&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!

Which pre-supposed that IQ has anything to do with common sense. What we
need is politicians who *a) listen and (b) weight waht they hear
appropriately. The adivece of the knowledegable few should be taken more
seriosly than that of the ignorant many - though both should be heard.

Do we have any ability to test for quality of listening, and are
politicians ever measured agaisnt that standard?

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Posted on 2006-07-01 19:33:52 by Arthur Hagen

Alec Cawley &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Which pre-supposed that IQ has anything to do with common sense. What
&gt; we need is politicians who *a) listen and (b) weight waht they hear
&gt; appropriately. The adivece of the knowledegable few should be taken
&gt; more seriosly than that of the ignorant many - though both should be
&gt; heard.

I'm sure the politicians agree 100% with the above. It's just that they
have a different definition of &quot;knowledgeable&quot; than you. From their point
of view, someone who runs a multi-billion dollar company surely must be in
the know, while a lowly scientist surely is ignorant, or why else would he
be in a position of no power?

While I don't want to stir up the IQ test debate again, and IQ tests only
measure one defined part of possible skills, it's still testable, I still
don't think it's bad to require a /minimum/ of that skill.

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#26: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 20:05:23 by CeltiKaos

On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:26:48 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!

You can't do that! We'd have no public offi...

*clang as penny drops*

Ahah! Good plan.. I like it! ;)
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#27: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 20:11:14 by CeltiKaos

On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:33:52 -0400, Arthur Hagen wrote:

&gt; While I don't want to stir up the IQ test debate again, and IQ tests only
&gt; measure one defined part of possible skills, it's still testable, I still
&gt; don't think it's bad to require a /minimum/ of that skill.

I agree. IQs measure potential, so surely it is better to have someone
with the potential in charge rather than one with zero potential. Granted
the one with zero potential may think the same way you do, but would be
unable to do anything about it. Better IMHO the one who doesn't *yet*
agree wth you as they have the potential to be weedled to your way of
thinking *and* then able to do something constructive about it.
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#28: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-01 20:51:55 by alec

In article &lt;pan.2006.07.01.18.11.13.315255
@munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk&gt;,
<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a> says...
&gt; On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:33:52 -0400, Arthur Hagen wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; While I don't want to stir up the IQ test debate again, and IQ tests only
&gt; &gt; measure one defined part of possible skills, it's still testable, I still
&gt; &gt; don't think it's bad to require a /minimum/ of that skill.
&gt;
&gt; I agree. IQs measure potential, so surely it is better to have someone
&gt; with the potential in charge rather than one with zero potential. Granted
&gt; the one with zero potential may think the same way you do, but would be
&gt; unable to do anything about it. Better IMHO the one who doesn't *yet*
&gt; agree wth you as they have the potential to be weedled to your way of
&gt; thinking *and* then able to do something constructive about it.

I do not agrere that IQ measures potential in any wides sense. It
measures ability at a particularly narrow span of problems involving
deductive logic. I do not agree that politicians need more than a
minimal amount of such capability: they can employ experts to do that.
Indeed, someone who has honed their skills in the direction of what IQ
tests test is likely (but far from certain) to have neglected the human
relationship, touchy-feely side of their nateure, which is IMO more
important for a politician.

It is very difficult to be really top of the tree in more than one
field. The occasional Leonardo da Vinci does it, but mostly peple have
to play down one aspect in order to build up another.

What we need in our politicians are good people-judging skills. They
have to be able to shift the knowledgeable from the bullshitters from
the uninformed, then obey the knowledgeable, slap the bullshitters, and
reassure the uninformed. None of which is tested by any IQ test I know
of.

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Posted on 2006-07-01 21:23:25 by Jens Ayton

CeltiKaos
&gt;
&gt; IQs measure potential

Really? I thought that was voltmeters.


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Posted on 2006-07-01 22:04:58 by Arthur Hagen

Alec Cawley &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; I do not agrere that IQ measures potential in any wides sense. It
&gt; measures ability at a particularly narrow span of problems involving
&gt; deductive logic. I do not agree that politicians need more than a
&gt; minimal amount of such capability: they can employ experts to do that.

If, and this is a big IF, they are willing to let others draw the
conclusions for them. IQ does, to a certain extent, measure the ability to
draw conclusions based on evidence at hand, and if you don't have that
skill, you have to be willing to let others who have it do it for you.

&gt; What we need in our politicians are good people-judging skills. They
&gt; have to be able to shift the knowledgeable from the bullshitters from
&gt; the uninformed, then obey the knowledgeable, slap the bullshitters,
&gt; and reassure the uninformed. None of which is tested by any IQ test I
&gt; know of.

Having knowledge doesn't imply making the right choice. You can absorb
entire libraries and be extremely knowledgeable but still unable to deduce
consequences, or understand and employ basic logic. Some current
politicians see correlations and then draw premature conclusions about
what's the cause and what's the effect. This isn't because of a lack of
knowledge, but because of a lack of reasoning.

This is why I think it wouldn't hurt to have a /minimum/ requirement for
deductive reasoning in politicians.

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Posted on 2006-07-02 01:20:00 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Richard Heathfield wrote:

&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of &quot;50%&quot;.
&gt; Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact that
&gt; someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt; shoelaces).

People often mention IQ and shoelaces in the same sentence, but I've
never successfully learned to tie shoelaces, and I'm pretty sure I'm
reasonably intelligent....

Adrian.

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#32: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 07:29:30 by Brenda

8'FED said:

&gt; Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of
&gt;&gt; &quot;50%&quot;. Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact
&gt;&gt; that someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt;&gt; shoelaces).
&gt;
&gt; People often mention IQ and shoelaces in the same sentence,

That's because we're too dumb to think up a better metaphor. :-)

&gt; but I've
&gt; never successfully learned to tie shoelaces, and I'm pretty sure I'm
&gt; reasonably intelligent....

My solution? Slip-ons!

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#33: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 10:21:48 by aqusenet

Gid Holyoake &lt;<a href="mailto:abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk" target="_blank">abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>&gt;, The Flying
&gt; Hamster generously decided to share with us..
&gt;
&gt; &gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt; &gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt; &gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt; &gt; spot?
&gt;
&gt; You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
&gt; sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(
&gt;
&gt; Gid

Oasis soup for minks.

You get a vole with it.

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#34: Re: [I] Shoelaces, was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 11:56:34 by Diane L

8'FED wrote:
&gt; Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of
&gt;&gt; &quot;50%&quot;. Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the
&gt;&gt; fact that someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie
&gt;&gt; their own shoelaces).
&gt;
&gt; People often mention IQ and shoelaces in the same sentence, but I've
&gt; never successfully learned to tie shoelaces, and I'm pretty sure I'm
&gt; reasonably intelligent....

I can tie shoelaces, but apparently I tie 'em wrong. Anyone who's
ever seen me tie a bow tells me it shouldn't be done like that (I once
reduced a shoe shop assistant to fits of giggles &quot;I've never seen
*anyone* tie a lace like that!&quot;) but when they try to show me how
it *should* be done, I can't follow it. I've decided that my technique
is just so advanced that the rest of the world isn't ready for it yet.

Diane L.

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#35: Re: [I] Shoelaces, was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 13:08:20 by Jens Ayton

Diane L:
&gt; 8'FED:
&gt;&gt; Richard Heathfield:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;50%&quot;. Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the
&gt;&gt;&gt; fact that someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie
&gt;&gt;&gt; their own shoelaces).
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; People often mention IQ and shoelaces in the same sentence, but I've
&gt;&gt; never successfully learned to tie shoelaces, and I'm pretty sure I'm
&gt;&gt; reasonably intelligent....
&gt;
&gt; I can tie shoelaces, but apparently I tie 'em wrong. Anyone who's
&gt; ever seen me tie a bow tells me it shouldn't be done like that (I once
&gt; reduced a shoe shop assistant to fits of giggles &quot;I've never seen
&gt; *anyone* tie a lace like that!&quot;) but when they try to show me how
&gt; it *should* be done, I can't follow it. I've decided that my technique
&gt; is just so advanced that the rest of the world isn't ready for it yet.

Funny, that; I know for a fact that my IQ is well above 100&lt;/brag&gt; and
while I can tie my shoelaces -- the normal way, no less -- I'm no speed
demon. Dyspraxia may have something to do with it, but somehow it feels
like more than that. As for techniques, there are many valid and
workable ones, and at least one web site (but probably hundreds)
dedicated to learning a particular technique for doing it fast, should
you feel the need.


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#36: Re: [I] Shoelaces, was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 13:37:49 by CeltiKaos

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 11:08:20 +0000, Jens Ayton wrote:

&gt; ones, and at least one web site

<a href="http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knots.htm" target="_blank">http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knots.htm</a>

Indeed. A classic examplfe OF someone with way too much time on his hands
and not enough to do with it! ;)
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#37: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 13:45:06 by Lister

On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 08:50:00 +0930, &quot;8'FED&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of &quot;50%&quot;.
&gt;&gt; Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact that
&gt;&gt; someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt;&gt; shoelaces).
&gt;
&gt;People often mention IQ and shoelaces in the same sentence, but I've
&gt;never successfully learned to tie shoelaces, and I'm pretty sure I'm
&gt;reasonably intelligent....


Perhaps you're *too* intelligent? There's no room in your brain to
hold the information on tying your laces :)

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Posted on 2006-07-02 15:25:27 by Lister

On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 09:21:48 +0100, <a href="mailto:aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com" target="_blank">aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com</a> (Aquarion)
wrote:

&gt;Gid Holyoake &lt;<a href="mailto:abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk" target="_blank">abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net" target="_blank">slrnea9riq.8md.hamster&#64;delenn.korenwolf.net</a>&gt;, The Flying
&gt;&gt; Hamster generously decided to share with us..
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; So they're releasing 500 of the little furry darlings, anyone else get
&gt;&gt; &gt; the mental image of 500 voles rushing for the water bank carrying
&gt;&gt; &gt; little umbrellas, water wings and BBQ kit all looking for the best
&gt;&gt; &gt; spot?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
&gt;&gt; sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Gid
&gt;
&gt;Oasis soup for minks.
&gt;
&gt;You get a vole with it.

Oh, very good, you're almost a rock n roll star

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Posted on 2006-07-02 16:08:08 by Eric Jarvis

Aquarion <a href="mailto:aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com" target="_blank">aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com</a> wrote in
&lt;1hhr2jv.vi8yyh913a68N%<a href="mailto:aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com" target="_blank">aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com</a>&gt;:
&gt; Gid Holyoake &lt;<a href="mailto:abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk" target="_blank">abuse&#64;brynamman.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; You've forgotten the most important bit.. the local mink population
&gt; &gt; sharpening their carving knives and checking the recipe books.. :-(
&gt;
&gt; Oasis soup for minks.
&gt;
&gt; You get a vole with it.
&gt;

Do you want shrews with that?

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Posted on 2006-07-02 17:41:04 by Blake

Jens Ayton wrote:
&gt; CeltiKaos
&gt;
&gt;&gt;IQs measure potential
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Really? I thought that was volemeters.
&gt;
&gt;
And thus we see the thread come full circle, returning to the lowly vole.
;-)

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Posted on 2006-07-02 18:41:08 by Lesley Weston

in article <a href="mailto:MPG.1f0f9cdcd8ed23b2989a42&#64;192.168.0.3" target="_blank">MPG.1f0f9cdcd8ed23b2989a42&#64;192.168.0.3</a>, Suzi at
<a href="mailto:spamtrap&#64;lovegoddess.free-online.co.uk" target="_blank">spamtrap&#64;lovegoddess.free-online.co.uk</a> wrote on 30/06/2006 1:43 PM:

&gt; In article &lt;C0CAD2C1.4AECA%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;, Lesley
&gt; Weston <a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a> wibbled...
&gt;
&gt; [Snip]
&gt;&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt;&gt; exterminate any animals, though.
&gt;
&gt; We have Yellow Loosestrife. And Knotweed. And Mare's Tails. And I think
&gt; all the slugs from South West Wales!

I don't think anyone can match our Banana Slugs. They're quite a bright
yellow, sometimes with green spots, they can have frilly edges and they can
be up to ten inches long.

<a href="http://bio.research.ucsc.edu/grad/weaver/Pages/project.html" target="_blank">http://bio.research.ucsc.edu/grad/weaver/Pages/project.html</a>

Unfortunately, their babies have voracious appetites just like those of the
duller brown and black slugs, which we also have in abundance.

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Posted on 2006-07-02 18:48:53 by Lesley Weston

in article 1hhrf74.qndkhs12bo5voN%<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>, Boyd Bottorff at
<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a> wrote on 30/06/2006 4:25 PM:

&gt; Lesley Weston &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt;&gt; exterminate any animals, though.
&gt;
&gt; I nominate pigeons and seagulls.

Nono, we're the ones with the good-looking and well-behaved pigeons and
seagulls, so there's no need. My father is in London right now, and he has
agreed to take special note of the condition of London pigeons and report on
them when he returns. So then I'll be able to make a proper comparison of
the two cities in this important respect.

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Posted on 2006-07-02 18:56:32 by Lesley Weston

in article ICvpg.1016$<a href="mailto:cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie Angst
at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 01/07/2006 7:26 AM:

&gt;
&gt; &quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:C0CAD2C1.4AECA%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt;&gt; in article 44a55af7$<a href="mailto:1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com" target="_blank">1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com</a>, Mark Foweraker at
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com</a> wrote on 30/06/2006 10:09 AM:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Mink!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Grey Squirrel!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Knotweed!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt; Proclamation on behalf of the Xenophobic Flora and Fauna Society
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying to
&gt;&gt; exterminate any animals, though.
&gt;
&gt; Our dumbass, idiot governor just lifted the hunting ban on alligators even
&gt; though they're still supposed to be protected. Alligator's are losing
&gt; habitat left and right here because of over-development, so alligators are
&gt; having more human contact. Of course this is the alligator's fault and they
&gt; can be killed now to keep them out of people's way. I have decided that
&gt; stupid people have too much power in this state. :p And when stupid people
&gt; become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.
&gt;
&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!

I hear you, Sister! Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again, since hunters want to pay
good money and come from all over the world to do so. And we can't have an
election for nearly three years.

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Posted on 2006-07-02 19:28:55 by Jeff C

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:08:08 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:

&gt;
&gt; Do you want shrews with that?

Or would you like mice cream for desert?

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#45: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 20:47:33 by CeltiKaos

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:41:04 +0000, Blake wrote:

&gt; And thus we see the thread come full circle, returning to the lowly vole.
&gt; ;-)

Seems to have fully e-vole-ved :)
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#46: Re: [I] Shoelaces, was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-02 21:14:58 by Arthur Hagen

CeltiKaos &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
wrote:
&gt; On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 11:08:20 +0000, Jens Ayton wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; ones, and at least one web site
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knots.htm" target="_blank">http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knots.htm</a>
&gt;
&gt; Indeed. A classic examplfe OF someone with way too much time on his
&gt; hands and not enough to do with it! ;)

Hey, there are people /dying/ because their shoelaces come untied.
I've seen someone step on his own shoelaces and take a swan dive down a
flight of stairs, and only chance prevented a fatal accident.
I consider the above web site to be a public service announcement.

Knock, knock
Who's there?
Tyrone

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#47: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-03 00:53:05 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;
&gt; I hear you, Sister!

I cannot hope but notice that &quot;public officials&quot; and &quot;nominating
pigeons, seagulls and knotweed&quot; are being mentioned in the same
thread. I realise that a seagull may make a better public official
than many, but is that really what people want?

&gt; Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt; population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again,

Hunted down and asked if they want to become public officials, you
mean?

Adrian.

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Posted on 2006-07-03 09:22:09 by Blake

&lt;snip some good stuff&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt;&gt;population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again,
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Hunted down and asked if they want to become public officials, you
&gt; mean?
&gt;
&gt; Adrian.
&gt;
&gt;
a) any intelligent grizzly would turn down the honour.
b) It might be more interesting, and perhaps useful, to have the big
game hunters hunt the politicians. A more unique challenge, and no one
would miss the politicians they bagged.[1]

[1] Kind of like the story about the biology lab using law students
instead of rats in their lab experiments.

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#49: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-03 14:21:10 by CeltiKaos

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:23:05 +0930, 8'FED wrote:

&gt; I realise
&gt; that a seagull may make a better public official than many, but is that
&gt; really what people want?

At least people are used to seagulls pooping on them from a great height,
so no change there then! ;)
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Julian Hall
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Posted on 2006-07-03 18:22:12 by Matthew Seaman

CeltiKaos &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; writes:

&gt; On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:23:05 +0930, 8'FED wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; I realise
&gt; &gt; that a seagull may make a better public official than many, but is that
&gt; &gt; really what people want?
&gt;
&gt; At least people are used to seagulls pooping on them from a great height,
&gt; so no change there then! ;)

Now you come to mention it, the sound of a seagull landing on a slate
roof[1], missing the ridge tile at the apex, and consequently
slithering and scraping and sliding noisily gutter-wards at
0-dark-thirty[2]: that could almost be taken as a metaphor for your
typical political career. Of course, politicians don't have the
capability to leap back into the air and fly gracefully away.

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] As in, the one right over my bedroom.

[2] Woke me right out of a sound sleep, that one did.

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Flat 3
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#51: Re: [I] Shoelaces, was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-03 19:56:56 by Rocky Frisco

Diane L wrote:

&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of
&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;50%&quot;. Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the
&gt;&gt;&gt;fact that someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie
&gt;&gt;&gt;their own shoelaces).
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;People often mention IQ and shoelaces in the same sentence, but I've
&gt;&gt;never successfully learned to tie shoelaces, and I'm pretty sure I'm
&gt;&gt;reasonably intelligent....
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I can tie shoelaces, but apparently I tie 'em wrong. Anyone who's
&gt; ever seen me tie a bow tells me it shouldn't be done like that (I once
&gt; reduced a shoe shop assistant to fits of giggles &quot;I've never seen
&gt; *anyone* tie a lace like that!&quot;) but when they try to show me how
&gt; it *should* be done, I can't follow it. I've decided that my technique
&gt; is just so advanced that the rest of the world isn't ready for it yet.

Here's &quot;advanced:&quot; No laces on western boots. ;)

-Rock
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#52: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-03 20:22:37 by Rocky Frisco

Blake wrote:

&gt; Jens Ayton wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; CeltiKaos
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; IQs measure potential
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Really? I thought that was volemeters.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt; And thus we see the thread come full circle, returning to the lowly vole.
&gt; ;-)

We don't nid no steenkin' badgers.

-Rock
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#53: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-03 20:35:38 by Rocky Frisco

Jessie C wrote:

&gt; On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:08:08 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:

&gt;&gt;Do you want shrews with that?

&gt; Or would you like mice cream for desert?

We have been on these damned tracks since breakfast; I think we have
taken the stoat rain.

-Rock
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#54: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-04 00:29:20 by Rocky Frisco

Rocky Frisco wrote:

&gt; Jessie C wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:08:08 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Do you want shrews with that?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Or would you like mice cream for desert?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; We have been on these damned tracks since breakfast; I think we have
&gt; taken the stoat rain.

AAaaaagh! Double-%$#@#$% was supposed to be &quot;Sloat Rain.&quot;

My fingers have a speech impediment.

-Rock

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#55: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-04 00:41:29 by Lesley Weston

in article e89ima$2gid$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>, 8'FED at <a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a> wrote on
02/07/2006 3:53 PM:

&gt; Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I hear you, Sister!
&gt;
&gt; I cannot hope but notice that &quot;public officials&quot; and &quot;nominating
&gt; pigeons, seagulls and knotweed&quot; are being mentioned in the same
&gt; thread. I realise that a seagull may make a better public official
&gt; than many, but is that really what people want?

Would anybody notice?
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt;&gt; population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again,
&gt;
&gt; Hunted down and asked if they want to become public officials, you
&gt; mean?

People that vicious aren't allowed into Canada, let alone BC. No, it's much
kinder than that; they just want to kill the bears, then they want to take
various parts of the corpse as trophies and leave the rest where it lies. I
guess the wolves and coyotes are in favour at least, so when they get the
vote that's it for the bears.

--
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Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.

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#56: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-04 01:06:58 by Jeff C

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:41:29 +0000, Lesley Weston wrote:

&gt; People that vicious aren't allowed into Canada, let alone BC. No, it's much
&gt; kinder than that; they just want to kill the bears, then they want to take
&gt; various parts of the corpse as trophies and leave the rest where it lies. I
&gt; guess the wolves and coyotes are in favour at least, so when they get the
&gt; vote that's it for the bears.

Until the Chinese Pharmacists decide that wolf and coyote parts will work
once the bears all run out...

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#57: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 01:54:44 by Lesley Weston

in article <a href="mailto:pan.2006.07.03.23.06.58.647912&#64;nospam.invalid" target="_blank">pan.2006.07.03.23.06.58.647912&#64;nospam.invalid</a>, Jessie C at
<a href="mailto:munged&#64;nospam.invalid" target="_blank">munged&#64;nospam.invalid</a> wrote on 03/07/2006 4:06 PM:

&gt; On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:41:29 +0000, Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; People that vicious aren't allowed into Canada, let alone BC. No, it's much
&gt;&gt; kinder than that; they just want to kill the bears, then they want to take
&gt;&gt; various parts of the corpse as trophies and leave the rest where it lies. I
&gt;&gt; guess the wolves and coyotes are in favour at least, so when they get the
&gt;&gt; vote that's it for the bears.
&gt;
&gt; Until the Chinese Pharmacists decide that wolf and coyote parts will work
&gt; once the bears all run out...

No, they'll just use more seahorses.

--
Lesley Weston.

Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.

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#58: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 06:09:24 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Richard Heathfield&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Aggie Angst said:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have decided that stupid people have too much power in this state. :p
&gt;
&gt; That's democracy for you.

Actually it's a steenking republic. I'm not sure what the difference is, I
learned it government class. ;)

~~snip~~

&gt; Such tests are discriminatory. Why should being a clueless buffoon make
&gt; you
&gt; unsuitable to make decisions affecting hundreds, thousands, or millions of
&gt; people?

I'ma ask them people in Iraq the next time I'm over there. :\

&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of
&gt; &quot;50%&quot;.
&gt; Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact that
&gt; someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt; shoelaces). More likely, &quot;50%&quot; would be interpreted as IQ of 50, and I've
&gt; found too-long-forgotten loaves of bread with higher IQs than that.

They keep lowering IQ standards here, at least in public schools. It
actually takes more (or is it less?) to be considered functionally retarded
now than what it did ten years ago.
:p
Aggie

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#59: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 06:17:38 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Alec Cawley&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f10a205a558e08c989d33&#64;news.individual.net..." target="_blank">MPG.1f10a205a558e08c989d33&#64;news.individual.net...</a>
&gt; In article &lt;ICvpg.1016$<a href="mailto:cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> says...
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Our dumbass, idiot governor just lifted the hunting ban on alligators
&gt;&gt; even
&gt;&gt; though they're still supposed to be protected. Alligator's are losing
&gt;&gt; habitat left and right here because of over-development, so alligators
&gt;&gt; are
&gt;&gt; having more human contact. Of course this is the alligator's fault and
&gt;&gt; they
&gt;&gt; can be killed now to keep them out of people's way. I have decided that
&gt;&gt; stupid people have too much power in this state. :p And when stupid
&gt;&gt; people
&gt;&gt; become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.
&gt;
&gt; Old news, I am afraid. Thus is has bean since Classical Greece, at
&gt; least.

That's me. A day late and a dollar short everytime.

&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;
&gt; Which pre-supposed that IQ has anything to do with common sense. What we
&gt; need is politicians who *a) listen and (b) weight waht they hear
&gt; appropriately. The adivece of the knowledegable few should be taken more
&gt; seriosly than that of the ignorant many - though both should be heard.

Common sense is helpful, but subjective. There are many people here who
believe it's common sense to fight terrorists &quot;over there&quot; instead of on
home soil. The fact that many innocent people are dying as well doesn't
matter. And why listen to idiots? They make up *at least* 35% of the
population if one is to believe polls. Everyone has an opinion, whether it's
sensical or not. I think a Solomon like wisdom would be more helpful.
&gt;
&gt; Do we have any ability to test for quality of listening, and are
&gt; politicians ever measured agaisnt that standard?

No. Unfortunately like the rest of humanity, they have their opinions as
well. I've also noticed a sense of superiority over the general populace
from our politicians. Of course I could just be over-sensitive. :p

Aggie

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#61: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 06:21:10 by Aggie Angst

&quot;CeltiKaos&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
wrote in message
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&gt; On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:26:48 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;
&gt; You can't do that! We'd have no public offi...
&gt;
&gt; *clang as penny drops*
&gt;
&gt; Ahah! Good plan.. I like it! ;)
&gt; --
Or we could demand that if they're not bright, they should at least be
attractive...
8o
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#62: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 06:30:48 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:C0CD490F.4AFF5%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt; in article ICvpg.1016$<a href="mailto:cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie
&gt; Angst
&gt; at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 01/07/2006 7:26 AM:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:C0CAD2C1.4AECA%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; in article 44a55af7$<a href="mailto:1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com" target="_blank">1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com</a>, Mark Foweraker at
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com</a> wrote on 30/06/2006 10:09 AM:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Mink!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Grey Squirrel!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Knotweed!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Proclamation on behalf of the Xenophobic Flora and Fauna Society
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying
&gt;&gt;&gt; to
&gt;&gt;&gt; exterminate any animals, though.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Our dumbass, idiot governor just lifted the hunting ban on alligators
&gt;&gt; even
&gt;&gt; though they're still supposed to be protected. Alligator's are losing
&gt;&gt; habitat left and right here because of over-development, so alligators
&gt;&gt; are
&gt;&gt; having more human contact. Of course this is the alligator's fault and
&gt;&gt; they
&gt;&gt; can be killed now to keep them out of people's way. I have decided that
&gt;&gt; stupid people have too much power in this state. :p And when stupid
&gt;&gt; people
&gt;&gt; become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;
&gt; I hear you, Sister! Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt; population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again, since hunters want to
&gt; pay
&gt; good money and come from all over the world to do so. And we can't have an
&gt; election for nearly three years.

Can we pay enough to have public officials hunted? Surely they are
overpopulated and will starve to death if we don't thin the herd![1]
;)
Aggie
[1] I love bears. When I was a very small girl we used to go to the Smokey
Mts every year. It was a two lane road up the mountain then. There were
places to pull of to watch wildlife and we used to pull over and bear watch.
There were &quot;DON'T FEED THE BEARS!&quot; signs all over, but inevitably some
mo-ron would try. Once this guy hopped out of his car with a bag of
marshmallows and offered a marshmallow to a black bear. He held the bag in
one hand and a single marshmallow in the other. The bear looked at him,
looked at the marshmallow, looked at the bag of marshmallows and took one
tremendous swipe. The bag went flying, the bear went after the bag, and
left the man standing there holding the single marshmallow while the bear
ran off with the bag. It was one of the funniest thing I've ever seen in my
life. I wish bears could run for office. ;)

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Posted on 2006-07-05 06:32:34 by Aggie Angst

&quot;8'FED&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:e89ima$2gid$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl..." target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl...</a>
&gt; Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I hear you, Sister!
&gt;
&gt; I cannot hope but notice that &quot;public officials&quot; and &quot;nominating
&gt; pigeons, seagulls and knotweed&quot; are being mentioned in the same
&gt; thread. I realise that a seagull may make a better public official
&gt; than many, but is that really what people want?
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt;&gt; population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again,
&gt;
&gt; Hunted down and asked if they want to become public officials, you
&gt; mean?

Bears would do a much better job, I'm certain.
Mainly because they would leave us alone, unless we had marshmallows.

Aggie

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Posted on 2006-07-05 06:35:44 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Blake&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:blake_hugh&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">blake_hugh&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; &lt;snip some good stuff&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt;&gt;&gt;population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hunted down and asked if they want to become public officials, you
&gt;&gt; mean?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Adrian.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt; a) any intelligent grizzly would turn down the honour.
&gt; b) It might be more interesting, and perhaps useful, to have the big game
&gt; hunters hunt the politicians. A more unique challenge, and no one would
&gt; miss the politicians they bagged.[1]
&gt;
&gt; [1] Kind of like the story about the biology lab using law students
&gt; instead of rats in their lab experiments.

Okay. I've mimicked Adrian and now you while answering Lesley's post before
I'd read either of your contributions. I'm worried about myself now. I
must be thinking like an afper. I didn't know it was contagious! Someone
should put out a warning FAQ! [1]

Aggie[2]
[1] I was kidding! Yes it was in poor taste, but I'm American! I can't help
myself!
[2] David Bowie fears me.

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#65: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 06:37:28 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Matthew Seaman&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:m.seaman&#64;infracaninophile.co.uk" target="_blank">m.seaman&#64;infracaninophile.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; CeltiKaos &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
&gt; writes:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:23:05 +0930, 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; I realise
&gt;&gt; &gt; that a seagull may make a better public official than many, but is that
&gt;&gt; &gt; really what people want?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; At least people are used to seagulls pooping on them from a great height,
&gt;&gt; so no change there then! ;)
&gt;
&gt; Now you come to mention it, the sound of a seagull landing on a slate
&gt; roof[1], missing the ridge tile at the apex, and consequently
&gt; slithering and scraping and sliding noisily gutter-wards at
&gt; 0-dark-thirty[2]: that could almost be taken as a metaphor for your
&gt; typical political career. Of course, politicians don't have the
&gt; capability to leap back into the air and fly gracefully away.
&gt;
&gt; Cheers,
&gt;
&gt; Matthew
&gt;
&gt; [1] As in, the one right over my bedroom.
&gt;
&gt; [2] Woke me right out of a sound sleep, that one did.

I watched an animal planet special the other day that showed Japanese crows
taking aim at people and pooping on them intentionally. I always suspected
crows have a sense of humor.

Aggie

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Posted on 2006-07-05 06:41:11 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; in article e89ima$2gid$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>, 8'FED at <a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a> wrote
&gt; on
&gt; 02/07/2006 3:53 PM:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I hear you, Sister!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I cannot hope but notice that &quot;public officials&quot; and &quot;nominating
&gt;&gt; pigeons, seagulls and knotweed&quot; are being mentioned in the same
&gt;&gt; thread. I realise that a seagull may make a better public official
&gt;&gt; than many, but is that really what people want?
&gt;
&gt; Would anybody notice?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt;&gt;&gt; population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hunted down and asked if they want to become public officials, you
&gt;&gt; mean?
&gt;
&gt; People that vicious aren't allowed into Canada, let alone BC. No, it's
&gt; much
&gt; kinder than that; they just want to kill the bears, then they want to take
&gt; various parts of the corpse as trophies and leave the rest where it lies.
&gt; I
&gt; guess the wolves and coyotes are in favour at least, so when they get the
&gt; vote that's it for the bears.

Damn dirty death culture.
}:^{
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Posted on 2006-07-05 06:43:24 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Rocky Frisco&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rocknatural&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">rocknatural&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Rocky Frisco wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Jessie C wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:08:08 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Do you want shrews with that?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Or would you like mice cream for desert?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; We have been on these damned tracks since breakfast; I think we have
&gt;&gt; taken the stoat rain.
&gt;
&gt; AAaaaagh! Double-%$#@#$% was supposed to be &quot;Sloat Rain.&quot;
&gt;
&gt; My fingers have a speech impediment.
&gt;

And here I was thinking it was a hart rain was gonna fall...
:|
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#68: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 07:00:54 by Stacie Hanes

Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; There were &quot;DON'T FEED THE BEARS!&quot;
&gt; signs all over, but inevitably some mo-ron would try. Once this
&gt; guy hopped out of his car with a bag of marshmallows and offered a
&gt; marshmallow to a black bear.

When I was in HS, my mom got me a book called _Alaska Bear Tales_.

Grizzlies are the most dangerous, but blacks and browns aren't teddy bears.
That ass is lucky it didn't gut him in front of his kids.

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Posted on 2006-07-05 11:58:31 by jester

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:35:44 GMT, Aggie Angst
&lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&lt;snip everything to get at a footnote&gt;
&gt;Aggie[2]

&gt;[2] David Bowie fears me.

Nah, it was #afp on IRC he called a bunch of weirdos, not the newsgroup.

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Posted on 2006-07-05 12:17:01 by CeltiKaos

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:21:10 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Or we could demand that if they're not bright, they should at least be
&gt; attractive...
&gt; 8o
&gt; Aggie

Well that lets out John Prescott, and come to think of it the rest of the
UK Government :)
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Posted on 2006-07-05 12:18:49 by CeltiKaos

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I watched an animal planet special the other day that showed Japanese
&gt; crows taking aim at people and pooping on them intentionally. I always
&gt; suspected crows have a sense of humor.
&gt;
&gt; Aggie

I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)
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Posted on 2006-07-05 12:20:15 by CeltiKaos

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:32:34 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Bears would do a much better job, I'm certain. Mainly because they would
&gt; leave us alone, unless we had marshmallows.
&gt;
&gt; Aggie

Or a pic-a-nic basket :)
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#73: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 12:21:56 by CeltiKaos

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:00:54 +0000, Anastasia wrote:

&gt; Grizzlies are the most dangerous, but blacks and browns aren't teddy
&gt; bears. That ass is lucky it didn't gut him in front of his kids.

I'm resisting the joke about the pepper spray and the bells..
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#74: [I] Governments (was Re: [I] Water voles)

Posted on 2006-07-05 16:01:46 by Daibhid Ceannaideach

The time: 01 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: Alec Cawley &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt;

&gt; In article
&gt; &lt;ICvpg.1016$<a href="mailto:cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> says...
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Our dumbass, idiot governor just lifted the hunting ban on
&gt;&gt; alligators even though they're still supposed to be
&gt;&gt; protected. Alligator's are losing habitat left and right
&gt;&gt; here because of over-development, so alligators are having
&gt;&gt; more human contact. Of course this is the alligator's
&gt;&gt; fault and they can be killed now to keep them out of
&gt;&gt; people's way. I have decided that stupid people have too
&gt;&gt; much power in this state. :p And when stupid people
&gt;&gt; become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.
&gt;
&gt; Old news, I am afraid. Thus is has bean since Classical
&gt; Greece, at least.

Talking of Classical Greece...

One of Tom Holt's Greek novels (can't remember which one)
featured a man from a ficticious city state which had worked
out that the three &quot;classic&quot; methods of government (monarchy,
oligarchy, and democracy) were all deeply flawed[1], and
wanted to combine their best features.

I forget how the one they came up with worked, except that bad
decisions led to the politicians being killed[2]. But one chap
proposed a system whereby the citizens would vote for a group
of leaders, who would then be in total charge for a given
period, and then the citizens would vote again.

Once they'd stop laughing, the other members of the synopsium
explained that, yes, that combined oligarchy and democracy,
but he'd unerringly homed in on the worst aspects of both of
them...

[1]Monarchy gives one man too much power, oligarchs spend too
much time jockeying for status, and democratic leaders are too
concerned with giving the voters what they think they want,
not what they need.

[2]And the system supposedly worked so well that this had
never actually happened.

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#75: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 16:32:30 by Brian Howlett

On 5 Jul, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &quot;Rocky Frisco&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rocknatural&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">rocknatural&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote

[snip]

&gt;&gt; AAaaaagh! Double-%$#@#$% was supposed to be &quot;Sloat Rain.&quot;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; My fingers have a speech impediment.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; And here I was thinking it was a hart rain was gonna fall...
&gt;
Oh, deer!
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#76: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 17:51:15 by Lesley Weston

in article W6Hqg.3349$<a href="mailto:cd3.2697&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.2697&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie Angst
at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 04/07/2006 9:21 PM:

&gt;
&gt; &quot;CeltiKaos&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; otic.co.uk...
&gt;&gt; On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:26:48 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; You can't do that! We'd have no public offi...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; *clang as penny drops*
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Ahah! Good plan.. I like it! ;)
&gt;&gt; --
&gt; Or we could demand that if they're not bright, they should at least be
&gt; attractive...

Or if we don't find them handsome we should at least find them handy.

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#77: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 17:57:38 by Lesley Weston

in article YfHqg.3356$<a href="mailto:PE1.2393&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">PE1.2393&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie Angst
at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 04/07/2006 9:30 PM:

&gt;
&gt; &quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:C0CD490F.4AFF5%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt;&gt; in article ICvpg.1016$<a href="mailto:cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.379&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie
&gt;&gt; Angst
&gt;&gt; at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 01/07/2006 7:26 AM:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;&gt; news:C0CAD2C1.4AECA%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in article 44a55af7$<a href="mailto:1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com" target="_blank">1_3&#64;mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com</a>, Mark Foweraker at
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">markfoweraker&#64;hotmail.com</a> wrote on 30/06/2006 10:09 AM:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Mink!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Grey Squirrel!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ban the Knotweed!!!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Proclamation on behalf of the Xenophobic Flora and Fauna Society
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Here, it's Purple Loosestrife. And Knotweed. I don't think we're trying
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; exterminate any animals, though.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Our dumbass, idiot governor just lifted the hunting ban on alligators
&gt;&gt;&gt; even
&gt;&gt;&gt; though they're still supposed to be protected. Alligator's are losing
&gt;&gt;&gt; habitat left and right here because of over-development, so alligators
&gt;&gt;&gt; are
&gt;&gt;&gt; having more human contact. Of course this is the alligator's fault and
&gt;&gt;&gt; they
&gt;&gt;&gt; can be killed now to keep them out of people's way. I have decided that
&gt;&gt;&gt; stupid people have too much power in this state. :p And when stupid
&gt;&gt;&gt; people
&gt;&gt;&gt; become powerful, that stupidity turns into evil.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I hear you, Sister! Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling BC
&gt;&gt; population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again, since hunters want to
&gt;&gt; pay
&gt;&gt; good money and come from all over the world to do so. And we can't have an
&gt;&gt; election for nearly three years.
&gt;
&gt; Can we pay enough to have public officials hunted? Surely they are
&gt; overpopulated and will starve to death if we don't thin the herd![1]

Works for me!

&gt; [1] I love bears.

Me too. I've been threatened by an angry black bear just once (and came to
no harm) but all my other bear-sightings have been peaceful and
overwhelmingly charming - mother and cub grazing in a blueberry patch, that
sort of thing.

&lt;Neat story about clever bear&gt;

&gt; I wish bears could run for office. ;)

AOL.

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#78: [R]Speaking Crow was Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 18:06:01 by Lesley Weston

in article
<a href="mailto:pan.2006.07.05.10.18.49.842096&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaoti" target="_blank">pan.2006.07.05.10.18.49.842096&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaoti</a>
c.co.uk, CeltiKaos at
<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a> wrote on
05/07/2006 3:18 AM:

&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I watched an animal planet special the other day that showed Japanese
&gt;&gt; crows taking aim at people and pooping on them intentionally. I always
&gt;&gt; suspected crows have a sense of humor.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)

Talk to Death of Rats about that. Through Susan, perhaps, or better still
through Quoth.

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#79: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 18:11:46 by Lesley Weston

in article MrHqg.3366$<a href="mailto:PE1.1869&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">PE1.1869&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie Angst
at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 04/07/2006 9:43 PM:

&gt;
&gt; &quot;Rocky Frisco&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rocknatural&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">rocknatural&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:KSgqg.303794$<a href="mailto:5Z.34875&#64;dukeread02..." target="_blank">5Z.34875&#64;dukeread02...</a>
&gt;&gt; Rocky Frisco wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Jessie C wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:08:08 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Do you want shrews with that?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Or would you like mice cream for desert?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; We have been on these damned tracks since breakfast; I think we have
&gt;&gt;&gt; taken the stoat rain.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; AAaaaagh! Double-%$#@#$% was supposed to be &quot;Sloat Rain.&quot;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; My fingers have a speech impediment.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; And here I was thinking it was a hart rain was gonna fall...

You neat to buck up your ideas if you doen't want people fawning on you.

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#80: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-05 23:25:44 by Stacie Hanes

CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:00:54 +0000, Anastasia wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Grizzlies are the most dangerous, but blacks and browns aren't
&gt;&gt; teddy bears. That ass is lucky it didn't gut him in front of his
&gt;&gt; kids.
&gt;
&gt; I'm resisting the joke about the pepper spray and the bells..

Good of you.

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Posted on 2006-07-06 00:24:01 by CeltiKaos

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:25:44 +0000, Anastasia wrote:

&gt; Good of you.

y'welcome :)
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#82: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 01:44:07 by nomail

&gt; &gt;&gt; I have decided that stupid people have too much power in this state. :p
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; That's democracy for you.
&gt;
&gt; Actually it's a steenking republic. I'm not sure what the difference is, I
&gt; learned it government class. ;)

In a republic, everyone votes for the people they want in their
government.

In a democracy, everyone IS the government.

And you thought we had bloated governments now? Can you imagine the
confusion if every day, people were trying to get us to vote for their
latest proposal? IE, we had Madison Avenue being the lobbying voice of
the nation, rather than K street?

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#83: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:13:26 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Boyd Bottorff&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I have decided that stupid people have too much power in this state.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :p
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; That's democracy for you.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Actually it's a steenking republic. I'm not sure what the difference
&gt;&gt; is, I
&gt;&gt; learned it government class. ;)
&gt;
&gt; In a republic, everyone votes for the people they want in their
&gt; government.
&gt;
&gt; In a democracy, everyone IS the government.
&gt;
&gt; And you thought we had bloated governments now?

Why yes I do actually. :)

Can you imagine the
&gt; confusion if every day, people were trying to get us to vote for their
&gt; latest proposal? IE, we had Madison Avenue being the lobbying voice of
&gt; the nation, rather than K street?

Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it might as
well be Madison Avenue because of who they represent, but I do see your
point.

Aggie

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#84: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:16:34 by Aggie Angst

&quot;CeltiKaos&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
wrote in message
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&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:21:10 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Or we could demand that if they're not bright, they should at least be
&gt;&gt; attractive...
&gt;&gt; 8o
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; Well that lets out John Prescott, and come to think of it the rest of the
&gt; UK Government :)

I take it you haven't seen much of our bunch. If my granny were alive she'd
say, &quot;Dick Cheney's got to slip up on a dipper to git a drink!&quot;
:)
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#85: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:17:18 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Angst
&gt; at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 04/07/2006 9:21 PM:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;CeltiKaos&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
&gt;&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt; otic.co.uk...
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:26:48 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Alligator Advocate Aggie
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; IQ tests for all public officials!
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; You can't do that! We'd have no public offi...
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; *clang as penny drops*
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ahah! Good plan.. I like it! ;)
&gt;&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt; Or we could demand that if they're not bright, they should at least be
&gt;&gt; attractive...
&gt;
&gt; Or if we don't find them handsome we should at least find them handy.
&gt;
And there's the rub...

Aggie
:)

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#86: Re: [I] Bears, thinking alike and weirdness (Was: Water voles)

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:20:13 by Aggie Angst

&quot;jester&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:35:44 GMT, Aggie Angst
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip everything to get at a footnote&gt;
&gt;&gt;Aggie[2]
&gt;
&gt;&gt;[2] David Bowie fears me.
&gt;
&gt; Nah, it was #afp on IRC he called a bunch of weirdos, not the newsgroup.
&gt;
That's hysterical. When David Bowie calls you a weirdo, you know you've
done something either very right or very wrong. Not sure which yet. :^D I
mean he's always been described as a very dull, milquetoast kind of guy...
Aggie

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#87: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:21:09 by Aggie Angst

&quot;CeltiKaos&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:pan.2006.07.05.10.18.49.842096&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk..." target="_blank">pan.2006.07.05.10.18.49.842096&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk...</a>
&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I watched an animal planet special the other day that showed Japanese
&gt;&gt; crows taking aim at people and pooping on them intentionally. I always
&gt;&gt; suspected crows have a sense of humor.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)

I know a whole bunch of the sign language :)
Aggie

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#88: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:24:31 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Anastasia&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; There were &quot;DON'T FEED THE BEARS!&quot;
&gt;&gt; signs all over, but inevitably some mo-ron would try. Once this
&gt;&gt; guy hopped out of his car with a bag of marshmallows and offered a
&gt;&gt; marshmallow to a black bear.
&gt;
&gt; When I was in HS, my mom got me a book called _Alaska Bear Tales_.
&gt;
&gt; Grizzlies are the most dangerous, but blacks and browns aren't teddy
&gt; bears. That ass is lucky it didn't gut him in front of his kids.
I know. It just shows that the bear was loads smarter than he was. A wild
animal will mess you up if it feels threatened. I don't understand the need
to try to make a pet out of every walking creature. The bear community is
probably still laughing about that one. I know I am.
;)
Aggie

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#89: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:28:38 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:C0D12FC3.4B22F%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt; in article YfHqg.3356$<a href="mailto:PE1.2393&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">PE1.2393&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie
&gt; Angst
&gt; at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 04/07/2006 9:30 PM:
&gt;



&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
!
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I hear you, Sister! Apparently there is now no reason why the dwindling
&gt;&gt;&gt; BC
&gt;&gt;&gt; population of Grizzly Bears can't be hunted again, since hunters want to
&gt;&gt;&gt; pay
&gt;&gt;&gt; good money and come from all over the world to do so. And we can't have
&gt;&gt;&gt; an
&gt;&gt;&gt; election for nearly three years.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Can we pay enough to have public officials hunted? Surely they are
&gt;&gt; overpopulated and will starve to death if we don't thin the herd![1]
&gt;
&gt; Works for me!
&gt;
&gt;&gt; [1] I love bears.
&gt;
&gt; Me too. I've been threatened by an angry black bear just once (and came to
&gt; no harm) but all my other bear-sightings have been peaceful and
&gt; overwhelmingly charming - mother and cub grazing in a blueberry patch,
&gt; that
&gt; sort of thing.
&gt;
&gt; &lt;Neat story about clever bear&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I wish bears could run for office. ;)
&gt;
&gt; AOL.

I haven't seen a live wild bear in a long time and I'm sorry about that.
You're very lucky. See! More reason to come to Canada. ;) Further reports
from The Land of Duh. They've just recently named the Black Bear the
official state mammal even though there are only about 50 in the wild here.
We got a bunch more coons and possums...
Aggie

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#90: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:31:17 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Brian Howlett&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:news-spamtrap&#64;brianhowlett.me.uk" target="_blank">news-spamtrap&#64;brianhowlett.me.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; On 5 Jul, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;Rocky Frisco&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rocknatural&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">rocknatural&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote
&gt;
&gt; [snip]
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; AAaaaagh! Double-%$#@#$% was supposed to be &quot;Sloat Rain.&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; My fingers have a speech impediment.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; And here I was thinking it was a hart rain was gonna fall...
&gt;&gt;
&gt; Oh, deer!

Ha! That was fawny!
(eep!)
Aggie

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#91: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 05:35:48 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; in article MrHqg.3366$<a href="mailto:PE1.1869&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">PE1.1869&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie
&gt; Angst
&gt; at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 04/07/2006 9:43 PM:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;Rocky Frisco&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rocknatural&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">rocknatural&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:KSgqg.303794$<a href="mailto:5Z.34875&#64;dukeread02..." target="_blank">5Z.34875&#64;dukeread02...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Rocky Frisco wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Jessie C wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:08:08 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Do you want shrews with that?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Or would you like mice cream for desert?
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We have been on these damned tracks since breakfast; I think we have
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; taken the stoat rain.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; AAaaaagh! Double-%$#@#$% was supposed to be &quot;Sloat Rain.&quot;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; My fingers have a speech impediment.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; And here I was thinking it was a hart rain was gonna fall...
&gt;
&gt; You neat to buck up your ideas if you doen't want people fawning on you.
&gt;
Absolutely. I'd hate to go all stagnant.
:^D
Aggie

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#92: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 06:17:22 by Flesh-eating Dragon

CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Bears would do a much better job, I'm certain. Mainly because they would
&gt;&gt; leave us alone, unless we had marshmallows.
&gt;
&gt; Or a pic-a-nic basket :)

What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
British line of picnic baskets.

Mind you, the only kind of picnic I generally have anything to do with
is the kind that's made of chocolate.

Adrian.

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#93: Re: [I] Water voles, almost, just bigger

Posted on 2006-07-06 06:30:24 by Arthur Hagen

Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; I haven't seen a live wild bear in a long time and I'm sorry about
&gt; that. You're very lucky. See! More reason to come to Canada. ;) Further
&gt; reports from The Land of Duh. They've just recently named
&gt; the Black Bear the official state mammal even though there are only
&gt; about 50 in the wild here. We got a bunch more coons and possums...

Surely, there's another state mammal that fits better?

I've driven through Texas:

Look, a cow.
....
There's another one...
....
Look - a whole herd over there!
....
A church.
Oh, and some cows.
....
Truck stop. And cows.
....
I spy, with my eye, something that starts with a C...
Calf?
Damn close -- I'll let you have a point. Your turn.
....
Thats a damn big plastic Jesus. 6 stories tall at least.
He probably watches the grazing cattle across the road.
....
Hmm, a &quot;Used Cow Store&quot;. I wonder what they sell.
....
A train! Wait, what's /on/ the train...? Ah. It's the Moo-Choo-Choo.
[10 minutes later]
That's a pretty damn big train, though. 100 cars, each with, say, 50
cattle -- that's an awful lot of hamburgers.
....
I wonder whether the cows eat tumbleweed?
....
Can we stop soon? I've got the moonchies.
....
Look, a goat!
Just kidding, it's a cow.
....
Ok, ok, you try to find a motel then! How was I supposed to know that
&quot;Vaca&quot; wasn't short for &quot;Vacancies&quot;?
....

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#94: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 08:20:29 by carol

8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt; &gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Bears would do a much better job, I'm certain. Mainly because they would
&gt; &gt;&gt; leave us alone, unless we had marshmallows.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Or a pic-a-nic basket :)
&gt;
&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt; British line of picnic baskets.

It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
known in the Antipodes....

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#95: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 09:35:57 by PeterH

It all started on Thu, 06 Jul 2006 07:20:29 +0100, when Carol Hague wrote:

&gt; 8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Bears would do a much better job, I'm certain. Mainly because they
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; would leave us alone, unless we had marshmallows.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Or a pic-a-nic basket :)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt;&gt; British line of picnic baskets.
&gt;
&gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear. I
&gt; am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt; known in the Antipodes....

Still, I'm surprised Adrian didn't know that, as he is smarter than the
average poster!


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#96: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 15:27:42 by CeltiKaos

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:16:34 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I take it you haven't seen much of our bunch. If my granny were alive
&gt; she'd say, &quot;Dick Cheney's got to slip up on a dipper to git a drink!&quot;
&gt; :)
&gt; Aggie

Oh I've seen your lot ;) If current trends are anything to go by the
criteria to be a politician[1] is as follows:

1. Fall out of ugly tree ensuring every branch is hit on the way down.
2. Land face down on a shovel.
a.Alternately land face up, said shovel overbalancing and smacking one
in the face.
3. Upon regaining consciousness join queue to have all common sense
beaten out of one with the ugly stick.

If, after the above selection procedure, the visage of the candidate is
still the happy side of a diseased warthog chewing wasps, then said
application must be refused.

Alternate procedure:

Have a parent who is/was a senior politician. The former procedure may
still be followed under these circumstances but is no longer mandatory.

[1] (I nearly said 'successful'[2] now THAT's an oxymoron nearly as good
as 'Microsoft Works'!)
[2] Possible meaning: Not caught yet.
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#97: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 15:32:45 by CeltiKaos

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:21:09 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I know a whole bunch of the sign language :) Aggie

I have a 5'10 wingsp.. err armspan, will that be useful? :)

Someone once told me the armspan was supposed to be the same as your
height. Since I'm 4'8 something's gone wahoonie shaped in a new and
unusual way! :)

Before you ask, no I am NOT the lovechild of Granny Weatherwax and the
Librarian, so OOK! Err. I mean.. so there! :)
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#98: Re: [I] Water voles, almost, just bigger

Posted on 2006-07-06 15:43:02 by CeltiKaos

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:30:24 -0400, Arthur Hagen wrote:

&gt; I spy, with my eye, something that starts with a C... Calf?
&gt; Damn close -- I'll let you have a point. Your turn. ...

Sounds like Nanny Ogg in the dungeon - imagne if she went to Texas:

I spy with my little eye, something beginning with.. A
A cow

I spy with my little eye, something beginning with.. B
Bovine

I spy with my little eye, something beginning with.. C
that's easy... cow
No cattle..
But cattle's just another word for... never mind

I spy with my little eye, something beginning with.. H
*sigh* Herd.. of cows
Of course I've heard of cows there's lots of them look![1]

I spy with my little eye, something beginning with.. S
um.
Steer.
Doh.

If I think of any more I'll... err.. keep them to myself :)

[1] I'm sorry I had to ;)

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Julian Hall
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#99: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 15:44:49 by CeltiKaos

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:31:17 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Ha! That was fawny!
&gt; (eep!)
&gt; Aggie

Ant lert that be a lesson to you.
*ahem*

The door was this way, right?
--
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Julian Hall
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#100: Re: [I] Water voles, almost, just bigger

Posted on 2006-07-06 16:25:46 by Brian Howlett

On 6 Jul, CeltiKaos wrote:

[snip]

&gt; I spy with my little eye, something beginning with.. S
&gt; um.
&gt; Steer.

&gt; Doh.

A steer, a female steer...

[snip]
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#101: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 18:20:23 by Lesley Weston

in article Gr%qg.3771$<a href="mailto:PE1.2653&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">PE1.2653&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie Angst
at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 05/07/2006 8:28 PM:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; I haven't seen a live wild bear in a long time and I'm sorry about that.
&gt; You're very lucky. See! More reason to come to Canada. ;)

Yes indeed. In the more outlying suburbs of Vancouver, black bears can be
quite a nuisance, rummaging through garbage cans and surprising people who
step out into their gardens. People hesitate to call the official wildlife
people for fear that they will shoot the bear, which happens far more often
than is necessary.

&gt; Further reports
&gt; from The Land of Duh. They've just recently named the Black Bear the
&gt; official state mammal even though there are only about 50 in the wild here.
&gt; We got a bunch more coons and possums...

That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what everybody
obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
played in one.

--
Lesley Weston.

Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.

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#102: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 18:25:05 by Lesley Weston

in article e8i2q0$j1b$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>, 8'FED at <a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a> wrote on
05/07/2006 9:17 PM:

&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bears would do a much better job, I'm certain. Mainly because they would
&gt;&gt;&gt; leave us alone, unless we had marshmallows.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Or a pic-a-nic basket :)
&gt;
&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt; British line of picnic baskets.

You might like to watch at least one Yogi Bear cartoon for cultural
purposes. Also, they're very funny.

<a href="http://www.toontracker.com/huck/yogi.htm" target="_blank">http://www.toontracker.com/huck/yogi.htm</a>

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that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
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#103: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 19:39:30 by alec

In article &lt;C0D28699.4B304%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a> says...

&gt; That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
&gt; nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what everybody
&gt; obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
&gt; played in one.

Well, England's offical gam is Losing, of which everybody has seen
plenty. Usaually we manage to Lose Nicely, but apparently not this time.

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#104: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-06 20:48:59 by the Tinfoil Hat of Reason

On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:44:07 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Boyd Bottorff,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:

&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I have decided that stupid people have too much power in this state.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :p
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; That's democracy for you.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Actually it's a steenking republic. I'm not sure what the difference
&gt;&gt; is, I learned it government class. ;)
&gt;
&gt; In a republic, everyone votes for the people they want in their
&gt; government.
&gt;
&gt; In a democracy, everyone IS the government.
&gt;
&gt; And you thought we had bloated governments now? Can you imagine the
&gt; confusion if every day, people were trying to get us to vote for their
&gt; latest proposal? IE, we had Madison Avenue being the lobbying voice of
&gt; the nation, rather than K street?

I guess that <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066302/" target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066302/</a> might confirm your
fears.

C:\&gt;

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#105: Re: [I] Armspans and heights // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 04:44:34 by Flesh-eating Dragon

CeltiKaos wrote:

&gt; I have a 5'10 wingsp.. err armspan, will that be useful? :)
&gt;
&gt; Someone once told me the armspan was supposed to be the same as your
&gt; height. Since I'm 4'8 something's gone wahoonie shaped in a new and
&gt; unusual way! :)

FTR, my armspan appears to be six feet. Plus or minus half an inch.

I don't know how to measure one's height accurately using common
household utensils and without an assistant, because there is no way to
see whether or not the pen that I am resting on the top of my head is
perfectly horizontal or not, and the margin of error caused by this
uncertainty is in fact very large.

Six feet is close enough, though.

Well, 6+2i.

Adrian.

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#106: Re: [I] Miscellaneous sports // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 04:57:38 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Lesley Weston wrote:

&gt; That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
&gt; nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what everybody
&gt; obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
&gt; played in one.

I'd say that over here, most people /have/ played in at least one
lacrosse game, but only at school, and only as one game among many
others that are imposed upon one during some P.E. class.

Adrian.

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#107: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 05:07:54 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:

&gt;&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt;&gt; British line of picnic baskets.
&gt;
&gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt; known in the Antipodes....

That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.

Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:

- Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
- Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.
- Stereotypically stupid; says &quot;duh&quot; a lot.
- Distinctive low-pitched voice.
- Was part of the culture of people now in their fifties.

Um, that's it. Nah, probably doesn't count as &quot;known&quot;, does it?

Adrian.

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#108: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 06:38:06 by Brenda

8'FED said:

&gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt;&gt;&gt; British line of picnic baskets.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt;&gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt;&gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt;
&gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.

Would you dismiss Dickens for the same reason? Or Shakespeare? Or Pratchett?

&gt; Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:
&gt;
&gt; - Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.
&gt; - Stereotypically stupid; says &quot;duh&quot; a lot.

(Actually, Yogi is /not/ stupid. He does some apparently dumb things, sure,
but the logic always seems reasonable up front - the hilarious consequences
only happen because the scriptwriter needs them to happen or he doesn't
really have a story.)

&gt; - Distinctive low-pitched voice.
&gt; - Was part of the culture of people now in their fifties.

Here's what I know about Shakespeare:

- Playwright. Human. Pink. Called Shakespeare.
- Wears clothes of some kind. I think there's a ruff.
- Stereotypically flowery, says &quot;Methinks&quot; a lot.
- Distinctive iambic pentameter.
- Was part of the culture of people now in their four-hundred-and-fifties.

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#109: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 08:06:12 by carol

8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; &gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt; &gt;&gt; British line of picnic baskets.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt; &gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt; &gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt;
&gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.

I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?

&gt;
&gt; Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:
&gt;
&gt; - Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.

And a collar and tie. He is , after all &quot;smarter than the average bear&quot;

&gt; - Stereotypically stupid; says &quot;duh&quot; a lot.

You seem to have him mixed up with Homer Simpson....

&gt; - Distinctive low-pitched voice.

Low -pitched? Not sure. I wouldn't have said so, but I have a bit of a
tin ear, so I could be wrong.

&gt; - Was part of the culture of people now in their fifties.

Which shares nothing with the culture of younger people, because
different agegroups never interact. Ever.

It's a pity there's no way of recording and broadcasting things like
that, so that different generations can share them, isn't it?

Damn. I think my sarcasm generator just exploded.

Incidentally, I am 42 and was brought up on Yogi cartoons, among others
- he's also a favourite of my Aged Pa, who will be 86 in December, so
your age classification is somewhat off.
&gt;
&gt; Um, that's it. Nah, probably doesn't count as &quot;known&quot;, does it?

I think it counts as pompous and dismissive actually.

I was perhaps a tad at fault for assuming the ubiquitousness of Yogi
Bear though.

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#110: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 08:13:58 by Brenda

Carol Hague said:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; I was perhaps a tad at fault for assuming the ubiquitousness of Yogi
&gt; Bear though.

Certainly not. Yogi Bear gets /everywhere/.

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#111: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 08:38:45 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt; &gt; Carol Hague wrote:

&gt; &gt; &gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt; &gt; &gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt; &gt; &gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt; &gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt;
&gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?

Let's not make this personal, as my personal opinion was never the
topic. I summarised how I believe Yogi is generally perceived by my
generation in this region.

&gt; &gt; Um, that's it. Nah, probably doesn't count as &quot;known&quot;, does it?
&gt;
&gt; I think it counts as pompous and dismissive actually.

*Sigh* It was supposed to sound self-depreciating.

Adrian.

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#112: Re: [I] Armspans and heights // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 10:22:38 by Peter Ellis

8'FED wrote:
&gt;
&gt; I don't know how to measure one's height accurately using common
&gt; household utensils and without an assistant, because there is no way
&gt; to see whether or not the pen that I am resting on the top of my head
&gt; is perfectly horizontal or not, and the margin of error caused by this
&gt; uncertainty is in fact very large.

Use a large book. Assuming your book is a true rectangle and your walls are
a true vertical, when one edge of the book is flat against the wall, the
bottom edge will be a true horizontal.

Peter

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#113: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 10:52:52 by Helen

8'FED wrote:
&gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt;&gt;&gt; British line of picnic baskets.
&gt;&gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt;&gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt;&gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt;
&gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt;
&gt; Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:
&gt;
&gt; - Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.
&gt; - Stereotypically stupid; says &quot;duh&quot; a lot.
&gt; - Distinctive low-pitched voice.
&gt; - Was part of the culture of people now in their fifties.
&gt;
Maybe in Oz but in the UK Yogi was still being shown when I was growing
up and I'm in my twenties.

Helen

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#114: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 10:56:57 by jester

On 6 Jul 2006 23:38:45 -0700, 8'FED
&lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt;&gt; &gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt;&gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?
&gt;
&gt;Let's not make this personal, as my personal opinion was never the
&gt;topic. I summarised how I believe Yogi is generally perceived by my
&gt;generation in this region.

It sounded more like you were speaking for yourself than for your
generation (have you asked them all?)

&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Um, that's it. Nah, probably doesn't count as &quot;known&quot;, does it?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I think it counts as pompous and dismissive actually.
&gt;
&gt;*Sigh* It was supposed to sound self-depreciating.

But it actually sounded pompous and dismissive.

As another data point, I'm 38 and grew up with Yogi Bear cartoons.
(Carefully phrased to try to stop some smart person making comments about
being brought up by wild animals)

--
Andy Brown
If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer a
Rolls Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon and
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#115: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 13:11:36 by aqusenet

jester &lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; On 6 Jul 2006 23:38:45 -0700, 8'FED
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt; &gt;&gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Let's not make this personal, as my personal opinion was never the
&gt; &gt;topic. I summarised how I believe Yogi is generally perceived by my
&gt; &gt;generation in this region.
&gt;
&gt; It sounded more like you were speaking for yourself than for your
&gt; generation (have you asked them all?)
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Um, that's it. Nah, probably doesn't count as &quot;known&quot;, does it?
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I think it counts as pompous and dismissive actually.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;*Sigh* It was supposed to sound self-depreciating.
&gt;
&gt; But it actually sounded pompous and dismissive.
&gt;
&gt; As another data point, I'm 38 and grew up with Yogi Bear cartoons.
&gt; (Carefully phrased to try to stop some smart person making comments about
&gt; being brought up by wild animals)

Datapoint two in an finite series: I'm 25 and likewise

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#116: Re: [I] Miscellaneous sports // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 13:11:38 by aqusenet

8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
&gt; &gt; nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what everybody
&gt; &gt; obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
&gt; &gt; played in one.
&gt;
&gt; I'd say that over here, most people /have/ played in at least one
&gt; lacrosse game, but only at school, and only as one game among many
&gt; others that are imposed upon one during some P.E. class.

Lacrosse is the one where you play hockey in the air with fishing nets,
isn't it?

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#117: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 14:09:22 by sphira9343

jester wrote:

&gt; I'm 38 and grew up with Yogi Bear cartoons.
&gt; (Carefully phrased to try to stop some smart person making comments about
&gt; being brought up by wild animals)

&quot;They gave me a name. They called me 'Grrrrr'!&quot;
(Eddie Izzard, 'The Wilderness Years)

(Incidentally, if anyone knows of anywhere I can get a copy of that,
either on CD or tape, I'd be interested to know)

CCA

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#118: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 14:18:29 by Arthur Hagen

Richard Heathfield &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; Carol Hague said:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I was perhaps a tad at fault for assuming the ubiquitousness of Yogi
&gt;&gt; Bear though.
&gt;
&gt; Certainly not. Yogi Bear gets /everywhere/.

Great news. Then he can step in for Death the next time he takes off to
work as a butcher, farmer or has a fight with the auditors.

Regards,
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#119: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 14:22:51 by Arthur Hagen

jester &lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; As another data point, I'm 38 and grew up with Yogi Bear cartoons.
&gt; (Carefully phrased to try to stop some smart person making comments
&gt; about being brought up by wild animals)

Us older people didn't grow up with Yogi Bear but Yogi Berra.

Regards,
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#120: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 15:16:38 by Lister

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:18:29 -0400, &quot;Arthur Hagen&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt;Richard Heathfield &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Carol Hague said:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I was perhaps a tad at fault for assuming the ubiquitousness of Yogi
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bear though.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Certainly not. Yogi Bear gets /everywhere/.
&gt;
&gt;Great news. Then he can step in for Death the next time he takes off to
&gt;work as a butcher, farmer or has a fight with the auditors.
&gt;
&gt;Regards,


With Booboo as a sidekick?

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#121: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 18:54:24 by Daibhid Ceannaideach

The time: 07 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: Lister &lt;<a href="mailto:fache&#64;SPAMclara.net" target="_blank">fache&#64;SPAMclara.net</a>&gt;

&gt; On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:18:29 -0400, &quot;Arthur Hagen&quot;
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Richard Heathfield &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt;&gt;&gt; Yogi Bear gets /everywhere/.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Great news. Then he can step in for Death the next time he
&gt;&gt;takes off to work as a butcher, farmer or has a fight with
&gt;&gt;the auditors.

&gt; With Booboo as a sidekick?

YOU MAY BE SPARED, MORTAL, IF YOU GIVE ME THAT PIC-A-NIC
BASKET.

&quot;The Reaper isn't going to like this, Yogi...&quot;


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#122: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 19:21:38 by carol

Daibhid Ceanaideach &lt;<a href="mailto:daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; YOU MAY BE SPARED, MORTAL, IF YOU GIVE ME THAT PIC-A-NIC
&gt; BASKET.
&gt;
&gt; &quot;The Reaper isn't going to like this, Yogi...&quot;

&lt;snorfle&gt;

Bravo!
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#123: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 19:21:38 by carol

8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; &gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt; &gt; &gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt; &gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?
&gt;
&gt; Let's not make this personal, as my personal opinion was never the
&gt; topic. I summarised how I believe Yogi is generally perceived by my
&gt; generation in this region.

The point stands, whether it relates to you or your generation (although
as jester says, it didn't come across that you were speaking for anyone
but yourself) - cultural things aren't necessarily limited to one
generation exclusively, although of course there are fads that are.

&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Um, that's it. Nah, probably doesn't count as &quot;known&quot;, does it?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I think it counts as pompous and dismissive actually.
&gt;
&gt; *Sigh* It was supposed to sound self-depreciating.

I'm afraid that's not how it read at this end. Whether the fault lies in
the writer, the reader or both I don't know.

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&quot;Yes, the shags have eaten our camera, I'm afraid....&quot;
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#124: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 20:37:24 by Lister

On 7 Jul 2006 16:54:24 GMT, Daibhid Ceanaideach
&lt;<a href="mailto:daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;The time: 07 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
&gt;speaker: Lister &lt;<a href="mailto:fache&#64;SPAMclara.net" target="_blank">fache&#64;SPAMclara.net</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:18:29 -0400, &quot;Arthur Hagen&quot;
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Richard Heathfield &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yogi Bear gets /everywhere/.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Great news. Then he can step in for Death the next time he
&gt;&gt;&gt;takes off to work as a butcher, farmer or has a fight with
&gt;&gt;&gt;the auditors.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; With Booboo as a sidekick?
&gt;
&gt;YOU MAY BE SPARED, MORTAL, IF YOU GIVE ME THAT PIC-A-NIC
&gt;BASKET.
&gt;
&gt;&quot;The Reaper isn't going to like this, Yogi...&quot;


You're very lucky I'm not drinking anything right now :)

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#125: Re: [I] Democracy, was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 21:55:16 by raltbos

<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a> (Boyd Bottorff) wrote:

&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; I have decided that stupid people have too much power in this state. :p
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; That's democracy for you.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Actually it's a steenking republic. I'm not sure what the difference is, I
&gt; &gt; learned it government class. ;)
&gt;
&gt; In a republic, everyone votes for the people they want in their
&gt; government.
&gt;
&gt; In a democracy, everyone IS the government.

Everybody who counts, that is. No women, children, men under 25, or men
with less than twelve times modal income need apply. At least, that's
how it was in the only examples of a &quot;democracy&quot; we've ever had on this
planet, that I know of. Unless you count communes and the like, but
they're not independent states.

&gt; And you thought we had bloated governments now? Can you imagine the
&gt; confusion if every day, people were trying to get us to vote for their
&gt; latest proposal? IE, we had Madison Avenue being the lobbying voice of
&gt; the nation, rather than K street?

Saki had a rather nice story about that.

Richard

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#126: Re: [I] Miscellaneous sports // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-07 22:19:26 by raltbos

<a href="mailto:aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com" target="_blank">aqusenet&#64;mailinator.com</a> (Aquarion) wrote:

&gt; 8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
&gt; &gt; &gt; nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what everybody
&gt; &gt; &gt; obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
&gt; &gt; &gt; played in one.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I'd say that over here, most people /have/ played in at least one
&gt; &gt; lacrosse game, but only at school, and only as one game among many
&gt; &gt; others that are imposed upon one during some P.E. class.
&gt;
&gt; Lacrosse is the one where you play hockey in the air with fishing nets,
&gt; isn't it?

Yes, and hurling is the one where you play hockey with wooden shovels,
and the boys don't play with the girls - if they want to remain boys.

Richard

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#127: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:18:32 by Aggie Angst

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&gt; On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:21:09 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I know a whole bunch of the sign language :) Aggie
&gt;
&gt; I have a 5'10 wingsp.. err armspan, will that be useful? :)
&gt;
&gt; Someone once told me the armspan was supposed to be the same as your
&gt; height. Since I'm 4'8 something's gone wahoonie shaped in a new and
&gt; unusual way! :)
&gt;
&gt; Before you ask, no I am NOT the lovechild of Granny Weatherwax and the
&gt; Librarian, so OOK! Err. I mean.. so there! :)

I swear to dog I wasn't going to ask!

I don't know my armspan. I keep dropping the tape measure.

Aggie

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#128: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:20:10 by Aggie Angst

&quot;8'FED&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bears would do a much better job, I'm certain. Mainly because they would
&gt;&gt;&gt; leave us alone, unless we had marshmallows.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Or a pic-a-nic basket :)
&gt;
&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt; British line of picnic baskets.

It has to do with what Teddy Bears do on their days off.

Aggie the Awful

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#129: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:22:10 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Richard Heathfield&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; 8'FED said:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What's a pic-a-nic basket? I'm guessing it's a brand name for some
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; British line of picnic baskets.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt;&gt;&gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt;&gt;&gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt;&gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt;
&gt; Would you dismiss Dickens for the same reason? Or Shakespeare? Or
&gt; Pratchett?
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; - Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
&gt;&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.
&gt;&gt; - Stereotypically stupid; says &quot;duh&quot; a lot.
&gt;
&gt; (Actually, Yogi is /not/ stupid. He does some apparently dumb things,
&gt; sure,
&gt; but the logic always seems reasonable up front - the hilarious
&gt; consequences
&gt; only happen because the scriptwriter needs them to happen or he doesn't
&gt; really have a story.)
&gt;
&gt;&gt; - Distinctive low-pitched voice.
&gt;&gt; - Was part of the culture of people now in their fifties.
&gt;
&gt; Here's what I know about Shakespeare:
&gt;
&gt; - Playwright. Human. Pink. Called Shakespeare.
&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind. I think there's a ruff.
&gt; - Stereotypically flowery, says &quot;Methinks&quot; a lot.
&gt; - Distinctive iambic pentameter.
&gt; - Was part of the culture of people now in their four-hundred-and-fifties.

YOMANK! Danggitt! YOMANK!
:^D

You goofball...
Aggie

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#130: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:25:42 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Carol Hague&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:carol&#64;wrhpv.com" target="_blank">carol&#64;wrhpv.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; 8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
~~~sneep~~~~*
* as read by Speedy Gonzolez

&gt;&gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt;&gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt;
&gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?
&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; - Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
&gt;&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.
&gt;
&gt; And a collar and tie. He is , after all &quot;smarter than the average bear&quot;

But there is a distinct lack of cartoon pants. I notice this sad fashion
among many of our cartoon heroes. You couldn't keep a pair of britches on
'em to save ya!

Aggie

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#131: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:27:24 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Daibhid Ceanaideach&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; The time: 07 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
&gt; speaker: Lister &lt;<a href="mailto:fache&#64;SPAMclara.net" target="_blank">fache&#64;SPAMclara.net</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:18:29 -0400, &quot;Arthur Hagen&quot;
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Richard Heathfield &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yogi Bear gets /everywhere/.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Great news. Then he can step in for Death the next time he
&gt;&gt;&gt;takes off to work as a butcher, farmer or has a fight with
&gt;&gt;&gt;the auditors.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; With Booboo as a sidekick?
&gt;
&gt; YOU MAY BE SPARED, MORTAL, IF YOU GIVE ME THAT PIC-A-NIC
&gt; BASKET.
&gt;
&gt; &quot;The Reaper isn't going to like this, Yogi...&quot;

Yer killin' me ovah heah!
:^D
Aggie

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#132: Re: [I] Water voles, almost, just bigger

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:36:10 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Arthur Hagen&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Aggie Angst &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I haven't seen a live wild bear in a long time and I'm sorry about
&gt;&gt; that. You're very lucky. See! More reason to come to Canada. ;) Further
&gt;&gt; reports from The Land of Duh. They've just recently named
&gt;&gt; the Black Bear the official state mammal even though there are only
&gt;&gt; about 50 in the wild here. We got a bunch more coons and possums...
&gt;
&gt; Surely, there's another state mammal that fits better?
&gt;
&gt; I've driven through Texas:
&gt;
&gt; Look, a cow.
&gt; ...
&gt; There's another one...
&gt; ...
&gt; Look - a whole herd over there!
&gt; ...
&gt; A church.
&gt; Oh, and some cows.
&gt; ...
&gt; Truck stop. And cows.
&gt; ...
&gt; I spy, with my eye, something that starts with a C...
&gt; Calf?
&gt; Damn close -- I'll let you have a point. Your turn.
&gt; ...
&gt; Thats a damn big plastic Jesus. 6 stories tall at least.
&gt; He probably watches the grazing cattle across the road.
&gt; ...
&gt; Hmm, a &quot;Used Cow Store&quot;. I wonder what they sell.
&gt; ...
&gt; A train! Wait, what's /on/ the train...? Ah. It's the Moo-Choo-Choo.
&gt; [10 minutes later]
&gt; That's a pretty damn big train, though. 100 cars, each with, say, 50
&gt; cattle -- that's an awful lot of hamburgers.
&gt; ...
&gt; I wonder whether the cows eat tumbleweed?
&gt; ...
&gt; Can we stop soon? I've got the moonchies.
&gt; ...
&gt; Look, a goat!
&gt; Just kidding, it's a cow.
&gt; ...
&gt; Ok, ok, you try to find a motel then! How was I supposed to know that
&gt; &quot;Vaca&quot; wasn't short for &quot;Vacancies&quot;?

:^D :^D :^D
My dog is giving me the hairy eyeball cuz I'm laughing so hard. And lemme
tell ya, she's good at it!
Now I know you've been to Texas and aren't making it up.
It'll put you off beef ennit?
Did you see the sandy part with the cacti?
Of course to be fair, Vacaville is in California...

I used to have this dog, Miss Jones, who was from Brooklyn. The first and
every subsequent time she saw a cow, she got the most disgusted look on her
face you've ever seen. She would curl her upper lip and tuck her chin
toward her chest. She was appalled. She never would have survived Texas.
:)

Aggie

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#133: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:36:35 by alec

In article &lt;W3Crg.4696$<a href="mailto:ye3.2393&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">ye3.2393&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> says...
&gt;
&gt; &quot;Carol Hague&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:carol&#64;wrhpv.com" target="_blank">carol&#64;wrhpv.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:1hi3en7.tzmbyt145rwy7N%<a href="mailto:carol&#64;wrhpv.com..." target="_blank">carol&#64;wrhpv.com...</a>
&gt; &gt; 8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; ~~~sneep~~~~*
&gt; * as read by Speedy Gonzolez
&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt; &gt;&gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt; &gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; - Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
&gt; &gt;&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; And a collar and tie. He is , after all &quot;smarter than the average bear&quot;
&gt;
&gt; But there is a distinct lack of cartoon pants. I notice this sad fashion
&gt; among many of our cartoon heroes. You couldn't keep a pair of britches on
&gt; 'em to save ya!

But the girlies keep their dresses on.

Mickey Mouse has pants.

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#134: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 01:40:49 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; in article Gr%qg.3771$<a href="mailto:PE1.2653&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">PE1.2653&#64;newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie
&gt; Angst
&gt; at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 05/07/2006 8:28 PM:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I haven't seen a live wild bear in a long time and I'm sorry about that.
&gt;&gt; You're very lucky. See! More reason to come to Canada. ;)
&gt;
&gt; Yes indeed. In the more outlying suburbs of Vancouver, black bears can be
&gt; quite a nuisance, rummaging through garbage cans and surprising people who
&gt; step out into their gardens. People hesitate to call the official wildlife
&gt; people for fear that they will shoot the bear, which happens far more
&gt; often
&gt; than is necessary.

I would rather have bears than the fire cracker obsessed loonies who live
all around me. I swear, they've been banging the things for a week now and
I'm getting close to postal. Bear, jaguars, anteaters, anything but people!
Argh!
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Further reports
&gt;&gt; from The Land of Duh. They've just recently named the Black Bear the
&gt;&gt; official state mammal even though there are only about 50 in the wild
&gt;&gt; here.
&gt;&gt; We got a bunch more coons and possums...
&gt;
&gt; That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
&gt; nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what
&gt; everybody
&gt; obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
&gt; played in one.

You know Lesley, you're shattering my illusions of how much better Canada is
than America over here. I'll have to find a new location to fantasize
about if you keep it up. ;) Maybe New Zealand...

Aggie

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#135: Re: [I] Armspans and heights // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 02:09:30 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Peter Ellis wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I don't know how to measure one's height accurately using common
&gt;&gt; household utensils and without an assistant, because there is no way
&gt;&gt; to see whether or not the pen that I am resting on the top of my head
&gt;&gt; is perfectly horizontal or not, and the margin of error caused by this
&gt;&gt; uncertainty is in fact very large.
&gt;
&gt; Use a large book. Assuming your book is a true rectangle and your walls are a
&gt; true vertical, when one edge of the book is flat against the wall, the bottom
&gt; edge will be a true horizontal.

My best guess is seventy-one inches (or rather, 71+25i inches). Should
anyone aspire to use me as an assistant in expressing the same grudge
against fruit as William Tell, this information will help them to
practice their aim.

Adrian.

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#136: Re: [I] Armspans and heights // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 04:37:26 by Lesley Weston

in article e8kign$2e6b$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>, 8'FED at <a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a> wrote on
06/07/2006 7:44 PM:

&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have a 5'10 wingsp.. err armspan, will that be useful? :)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Someone once told me the armspan was supposed to be the same as your
&gt;&gt; height. Since I'm 4'8 something's gone wahoonie shaped in a new and
&gt;&gt; unusual way! :)
&gt;
&gt; FTR, my armspan appears to be six feet. Plus or minus half an inch.
&gt;
&gt; I don't know how to measure one's height accurately using common
&gt; household utensils and without an assistant, because there is no way to
&gt; see whether or not the pen that I am resting on the top of my head is
&gt; perfectly horizontal or not, and the margin of error caused by this
&gt; uncertainty is in fact very large.
&gt;
&gt; Six feet is close enough, though.
&gt;
&gt; Well, 6+2i.

You use imaginary numbers to measure your height? So does plotting your
height against your armspan give the Mandelbrot set?

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#137: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 04:53:31 by Lesley Weston

in article e8ljmr$bde$<a href="mailto:1&#64;tree.broomstick.com" target="_blank">1&#64;tree.broomstick.com</a>, Arthur Hagen at
<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a> wrote on 07/07/2006 5:22 AM:

&gt; jester &lt;<a href="mailto:usenet&#64;jester.nu" target="_blank">usenet&#64;jester.nu</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; As another data point, I'm 38 and grew up with Yogi Bear cartoons.
&gt;&gt; (Carefully phrased to try to stop some smart person making comments
&gt;&gt; about being brought up by wild animals)
&gt;
&gt; Us older people didn't grow up with Yogi Bear but Yogi Berra.

It's déjà vu all over again.

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#138: Re: [I] Armspans and heights // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 04:54:51 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:

&gt;&gt; Six feet is close enough, though.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Well, 6+2i.
&gt;
&gt; You use imaginary numbers to measure your height? So does plotting your
&gt; height against your armspan give the Mandelbrot set?

Well, the &quot;eight foot tall flesh-eating dragon&quot; thing is, in complete
honesty, not _entirely_ Real.

Adrian.

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#139: Re: [I] Miscellaneous sports // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 05:02:15 by Lesley Weston

in article e8kigp$2e6b$<a href="mailto:2&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">2&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>, 8'FED at <a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a> wrote on
06/07/2006 7:57 PM:

&gt; Lesley Weston wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
&gt;&gt; nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what everybody
&gt;&gt; obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
&gt;&gt; played in one.
&gt;
&gt; I'd say that over here, most people /have/ played in at least one
&gt; lacrosse game, but only at school, and only as one game among many
&gt; others that are imposed upon one during some P.E. class.

When I was at school in England, the really posh girls' schools played
lacrosse, field hockey and netball in Winter and cricket and tennis in
Summer. The ones I went to weren't quite so posh, so we just played hockey
and netball in Winter, and tennis in Summer.

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#140: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 05:07:18 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I don't know my armspan. I keep dropping the tape measure.

I did it by placing the tape measure on the floor, and lying on my
back, with my arms stretched out. This way, dropping the tape measure
is either impossible or compulsory, depending on how you look at it.

Adrian.

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#141: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 05:13:27 by Lesley Weston

in article <a href="mailto:MPG.1f175b2d7b3bdebe989d42&#64;news.individual.net" target="_blank">MPG.1f175b2d7b3bdebe989d42&#64;news.individual.net</a>, Alec Cawley at
<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a> wrote on 06/07/2006 10:39 AM:

&gt; In article &lt;C0D28699.4B304%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;,
&gt; <a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a> says...
&gt;
&gt;&gt; That's OK, Canada's official National Game is lacrosse. This surprises
&gt;&gt; nearly all Canadians; we thought it was hockey, since that's what everybody
&gt;&gt; obsesses about. Most people have never seen a lacrosse game, let alone
&gt;&gt; played in one.
&gt;
&gt; Well, England's offical gam is Losing, of which everybody has seen
&gt; plenty. Usaually we manage to Lose Nicely, but apparently not this time.

Canada's quite good at that one, too. We keep winning the Plate or the
Shield at Rugby Sevens, never the Cup. But Steve Nash is Canadian.

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#142: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 05:52:19 by Aggie Angst

&quot;CeltiKaos&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;munged4usenet.removethatbitohandthisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt;
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&gt; On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:31:17 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Ha! That was fawny!
&gt;&gt; (eep!)
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt; Ant lert that be a lesson to you.
&gt; *ahem*
&gt;
&gt; The door was this way, right?

I'm gonna tapir off cuz the afpers might get upset.
;)
Aggie

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#143: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 06:12:09 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Carol Hague wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It's a picnic basket, as pronounced by the cartoon character Yogi Bear.
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I am much saddened to find that this wise philosopher is apparently not
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; known in the Antipodes....
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Let's not make this personal, as my personal opinion was never the
&gt;&gt; topic. I summarised how I believe Yogi is generally perceived by my
&gt;&gt; generation in this region.
&gt;
&gt; The point stands, whether it relates to you or your generation (although
&gt; as jester says, it didn't come across that you were speaking for anyone
&gt; but yourself) - cultural things aren't necessarily limited to one
&gt; generation exclusively, although of course there are fads that are.

Well, I was responding to the question of to what extent Yogi is known
in the Antipodes, and the answer is that most people of my generation
are vaguely familiar with what Yogi is, but would have to ask our
parents if we wanted to know anything specific.

Beyond that, I suspect we're using different definitions of the word
&quot;dismiss&quot;. I get the impression that to you, &quot;dismiss&quot; means something
like &quot;reject as worthless&quot;, whereas I would say that the act of
dismissing something is a privative, and simply means an absence of
paying attention to it. If I come back from a holiday and mark five
thousand newsgroup posts as read, that is dismissing them, but it is
not regarding them as worthless. If I visit a bookshop, I dismiss
every single book except for the tiny minority that I specifically
inspect. As such, I don't see dismissing something as potentially
insulting unless someone has asked you to pay attention to it, or it
is for some reason irresponsible not to.

Adrian.

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#144: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 13:26:26 by sphira9343

CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)

Anyone who speaks crow is welcome to come here and ask the ones in the
trees opposite me to please be a bit quieter so early in the morning.
I've been woken up several times by some crow three-part-harmony of
'Morning Has Broken'.

CCA

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#145: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 13:35:34 by sphira9343

Aggie Angst wrote:

(snip story of Why Not To Feed Bears)

&gt; The bag went flying, the bear went after the bag, and
&gt; left the man standing there holding the single marshmallow while the bear
&gt; ran off with the bag. It was one of the funniest thing I've ever seen in my
&gt; life. I wish bears could run for office. ;)

That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In The
Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the Appalachians,
were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was grizzly or black).
They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and held it out for the
bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the baby's hand.

CCA

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#146: Re: -I- Bears, thinking alike and weirdness (Was: Water voles)

Posted on 2006-07-08 13:38:15 by sphira9343

jester wrote:
&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:35:44 GMT, Aggie Angst
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; &gt;[2] David Bowie fears me.

&gt; Nah, it was #afp on IRC he called a bunch of weirdos, not the newsgroup.

Really? Cool! When was that?

CCA

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#147: Re: [I] Armspans and heights

Posted on 2006-07-08 14:33:51 by Supermouse

Peter Ellis wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;I don't know how to measure one's height accurately using common
&gt;&gt;household utensils and without an assistant, because there is no way
&gt;&gt;to see whether or not the pen that I am resting on the top of my head
&gt;&gt;is perfectly horizontal or not, and the margin of error caused by this
&gt;&gt;uncertainty is in fact very large.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Use a large book. Assuming your book is a true rectangle and your walls are
&gt; a true vertical,

IME, that latter is very often an erroneous assumption.

On the other hand, with some finagling and a plumbline, you can find a
vertical.

--
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Ask not for whom the cheese rolls...

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#148: Re: -I- Bears, thinking alike and weirdness (Was: Water voles)

Posted on 2006-07-08 14:36:24 by jester

On 8 Jul 2006 04:38:15 -0700, CCA
&lt;<a href="mailto:sphira9343&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">sphira9343&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;jester wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:35:44 GMT, Aggie Angst
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;[2] David Bowie fears me.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Nah, it was #afp on IRC he called a bunch of weirdos, not the newsgroup.
&gt;
&gt;Really? Cool! When was that?

It would have been many years agao, as it was before I started spending
time no IRC.
Apparently Mr Bowie was being shown various other bits of the internet as
hiw website ws first being developed, and the guy showing him round was a
#afper, so decided to show him IRC.
I believe some of the local customs at the time were what struck him as
weird.

A bit of minor digging appears to indicate his actual comment was &quot;Who are
all these weirdos?&quot;

--
Andy Brown
Duct tape is like the Force; it has a light side and a dark side and it holds
the universe together

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#149: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 14:53:52 by Diane L

CCA wrote:

&gt; That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In
&gt; The Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the
&gt; Appalachians, were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was
&gt; grizzly or black). They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and
&gt; held it out for the bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the baby's
&gt; hand.

Dear God, are people really that stupid?

Diane L.

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#150: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 15:19:20 by carol

8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Carol Hague wrote:

&gt; Well, I was responding to the question of to what extent Yogi is known
&gt; in the Antipodes, and the answer is that most people of my generation
&gt; are vaguely familiar with what Yogi is, but would have to ask our
&gt; parents if we wanted to know anything specific.

I really don't see how you can know that - it may well be true for your
social circle, but unless you live in a very small town, I doubt that
you're acquainted with the whole of your generation in the place you
live, much less in the whole of Australia.

I'm not saying that as an attack on you, but rather pointing out that
you're falling into the trap of extrapolating your (and your
acquaintances') experience to the entirety of of an age group in your
country. I honestly doubt that they're *that* homogenous.

Sheesh, all this from one throwaway remark....

&gt;
&gt; Beyond that, I suspect we're using different definitions of the word
&gt; &quot;dismiss&quot;. I get the impression that to you, &quot;dismiss&quot; means something
&gt; like &quot;reject as worthless&quot;,

Well yes. It certainly has that connotation for me. Clearly it doesn't
for you.

&gt; As such, I don't see dismissing something as potentially
&gt; insulting unless someone has asked you to pay attention to it, or it
&gt; is for some reason irresponsible not to.

Not deliberately insulting perhaps, but if you consider someone not
worth your attention, I daresay you can see how they might not be
entirely happy about it, assuming they felt your attention was worth
having?

--
Carol
&quot;Yes, the shags have eaten our camera, I'm afraid....&quot;
Simon King on &quot;Springwatch&quot;

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#151: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 17:28:02 by Stacie Hanes

Diane L wrote:
&gt; CCA wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In
&gt;&gt; The Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the
&gt;&gt; Appalachians, were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was
&gt;&gt; grizzly or black). They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and
&gt;&gt; held it out for the bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the
&gt;&gt; baby's hand.
&gt;
&gt; Dear God, are people really that stupid?

Oh, yes. I mean, who wouldn't want a kyoooooot! picture of a *big teddy
bear* licking Baby's hand! That's a prize-winning photo op, that is.

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#152: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 18:30:35 by Ailbhe

Anastasia &lt;<a href="mailto:house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">house_damodred&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote
(on Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:28:02 GMT):
&gt; Diane L wrote:
&gt; &gt; CCA wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In
&gt; &gt;&gt; The Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the
&gt; &gt;&gt; Appalachians, were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was
&gt; &gt;&gt; grizzly or black). They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and
&gt; &gt;&gt; held it out for the bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the
&gt; &gt;&gt; baby's hand.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Dear God, are people really that stupid?
&gt;
&gt; Oh, yes. I mean, who wouldn't want a kyoooooot! picture of a *big teddy
&gt; bear* licking Baby's hand! That's a prize-winning photo op, that is.

People also sit their babies on lilypads over crocodile living-rooms.

Unfortunately, it's the poor kids who suffer most for their guardians'
stupidity.

A.

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#153: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 18:52:55 by Arthur Hagen

CCA &lt;<a href="mailto:sphira9343&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">sphira9343&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)
&gt;
&gt; Anyone who speaks crow is welcome to come here and ask the ones in the
&gt; trees opposite me to please be a bit quieter so early in the morning.
&gt; I've been woken up several times by some crow three-part-harmony of
&gt; 'Morning Has Broken'.

I'd be happy to take your crows off your bush, if you in return will accept
the [#$@#~*%!] of crackles and the woodpecker outside my bedroom.

[#$@#~*%!]: NAF, although if anyone knows what a [ ] of grackles is
called, feel free to fill in.

Regards,
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#154: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 18:56:33 by Aggie Angst

&quot;8'FED&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:e8n7g9$1tgj$<a href="mailto:1&#64;mud.stack.nl..." target="_blank">1&#64;mud.stack.nl...</a>
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I don't know my armspan. I keep dropping the tape measure.
&gt;
&gt; I did it by placing the tape measure on the floor, and lying on my
&gt; back, with my arms stretched out. This way, dropping the tape measure
&gt; is either impossible or compulsory, depending on how you look at it.

:^D

I would probably find a way to wedge it in my ear or get lost on the way
down to the floor.
;)
Aggie

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#155: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 19:02:16 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Alec Cawley&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net..." target="_blank">MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net...</a>
&gt; In article &lt;W3Crg.4696$<a href="mailto:ye3.2393&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">ye3.2393&#64;newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> says...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;Carol Hague&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:carol&#64;wrhpv.com" target="_blank">carol&#64;wrhpv.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:1hi3en7.tzmbyt145rwy7N%<a href="mailto:carol&#64;wrhpv.com..." target="_blank">carol&#64;wrhpv.com...</a>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; ~~~sneep~~~~*
&gt;&gt; * as read by Speedy Gonzolez
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; That depends on your value of &quot;known&quot;. Let's settle for: known of, but
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; basically dismissed as belonging to the era of an older generation.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; I suppose you dismiss Elvis, the Beatles, Jane Austen and William
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hartnell's portrayal od Doctor Who for the same reason?
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Here's what I know about Yogi Bear:
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; - Cartoon character. Bear. Brown. Called Yogi.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; - Wears clothes of some kind; I think there's a hat.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; And a collar and tie. He is , after all &quot;smarter than the average bear&quot;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; But there is a distinct lack of cartoon pants. I notice this sad fashion
&gt;&gt; among many of our cartoon heroes. You couldn't keep a pair of britches
&gt;&gt; on
&gt;&gt; 'em to save ya!
&gt;
&gt; But the girlies keep their dresses on.

At least there's some sense of modesty in animation!
&gt;
&gt; Mickey Mouse has pants.

Yes. He responded to the pleas of CPCA[1] for decency.
Plus I think he's a little ashamed. You've heard that high voice, right?

[1] Cartoon Pants for Cartoon Animals
Aggie
:)

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#156: Re: [I] Miscellaneous sports // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 19:03:40 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:C0D46E8A.4B416%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt; in article e8kigp$2e6b$<a href="mailto:2&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">2&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>, 8'FED at <a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a> wrote
&gt; on
&gt; 06/07/2006 7:57 PM:
&gt;
~~~~snip~~~
&gt;
&gt; When I was at school in England, the really posh girls' schools played
&gt; lacrosse, field hockey and netball in Winter and cricket and tennis in
&gt; Summer. The ones I went to weren't quite so posh, so we just played hockey
&gt; and netball in Winter, and tennis in Summer.

Still beats what we did. We just played Dodge the Mugger regardless of the
season.

Aggie
:)

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#157: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 19:06:09 by Aggie Angst

&quot;CCA&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:sphira9343&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">sphira9343&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:1152358533.962426.159950&#64;h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com..." target="_blank">1152358533.962426.159950&#64;h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...</a>
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt; (snip story of Why Not To Feed Bears)
&gt;
&gt;&gt; The bag went flying, the bear went after the bag, and
&gt;&gt; left the man standing there holding the single marshmallow while the bear
&gt;&gt; ran off with the bag. It was one of the funniest thing I've ever seen in
&gt;&gt; my
&gt;&gt; life. I wish bears could run for office. ;)
&gt;
&gt; That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In The
&gt; Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the Appalachians,
&gt; were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was grizzly or black).
&gt; They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and held it out for the
&gt; bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the baby's hand.

AUGH!
Once again, you have to have a license to drive a car, catch a fish, or own
a dog. Why the hell are stupid people allowed to breed unchecked?!
JEEZ!
Side note- If it was the Appalachias, it was probably a black bear.
Aggie

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#158: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 19:08:42 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Diane L&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com" target="_blank">dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:4h9o6vF1qf93pU1&#64;individual.net..." target="_blank">4h9o6vF1qf93pU1&#64;individual.net...</a>
&gt; CCA wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In
&gt;&gt; The Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the
&gt;&gt; Appalachians, were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was
&gt;&gt; grizzly or black). They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and
&gt;&gt; held it out for the bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the baby's
&gt;&gt; hand.
&gt;
&gt; Dear God, are people really that stupid?

Yes Diane, they are. There are people here who seem to be ready to moo at
any moment. Of course that's not completely fair to a cow. A cow would
know better than that. I blame Walt Disney and a dirty gene pool.

:(
Aggie

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#159: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 19:15:47 by aqusenet

Diane L &lt;<a href="mailto:dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com" target="_blank">dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; CCA wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In
&gt; &gt; The Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the
&gt; &gt; Appalachians, were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was
&gt; &gt; grizzly or black). They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and
&gt; &gt; held it out for the bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the baby's
&gt; &gt; hand.
&gt;
&gt; Dear God, are people really that stupid?
&gt;
&gt; Diane L.

Please report to the nearest cynicism recalibation booth, where an
episode of Big Brother will return your cynicism to normal levels. Thank
you.

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#160: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 19:50:18 by Mike Stevens

Arthur Hagen wrote:
&gt; CCA &lt;<a href="mailto:sphira9343&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">sphira9343&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Anyone who speaks crow is welcome to come here and ask the ones in
&gt;&gt; the trees opposite me to please be a bit quieter so early in the
&gt;&gt; morning. I've been woken up several times by some crow
&gt;&gt; three-part-harmony of 'Morning Has Broken'.
&gt;
&gt; I'd be happy to take your crows off your bush, if you in return will
&gt; accept the [#$@#~*%!] of crackles and the woodpecker outside my
&gt; bedroom.

My biggest alarm problem on the canals is usuallyu Canada Geese. Would any
of our Canadian subscribers like to come and take them home?


--
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narrowboat Felis Catus III
web-site www.mike-stevens.co.uk

No man is an island. So is Man.

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#161: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 20:57:31 by James Mitchelhill

On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 18:50:18 +0100, Mike Stevens wrote:

&gt; Arthur Hagen wrote:
&gt;&gt; CCA &lt;<a href="mailto:sphira9343&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">sphira9343&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone who speaks crow is welcome to come here and ask the ones in
&gt;&gt;&gt; the trees opposite me to please be a bit quieter so early in the
&gt;&gt;&gt; morning. I've been woken up several times by some crow
&gt;&gt;&gt; three-part-harmony of 'Morning Has Broken'.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I'd be happy to take your crows off your bush, if you in return will
&gt;&gt; accept the [#$@#~*%!] of crackles and the woodpecker outside my
&gt;&gt; bedroom.
&gt;
&gt; My biggest alarm problem on the canals is usuallyu Canada Geese. Would any
&gt; of our Canadian subscribers like to come and take them home?

You rural types have it easy. If anyone wants:

a) The builders who are currently (though slowly) adding an extra storey
to this block of flats and who seem to begin hammering somewhere around
7am some mornings;

b) The teenagers who hang around in the car-park, repeatedly hitting
said scaffolding between sessions of mobile-phone video theatre;

c) My upstairs neighbour, who appears to regularly indule in a little
late night furniture arranging (and, strangely, furniture building - I
swear I can hear sawing sometimes) after getting in at 1am;

d) Whoever it was that was who lives in one of the houses on the next
road down, who thought it a marvellous idea to play some video game with
very repetitive music at 2am when I really, really needed to get some
proper sleep with the sound turned up and his windows flung wide open;

then they're welcome to them all.

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<a href="mailto:james&#64;disorderfeed.net" target="_blank">james&#64;disorderfeed.net</a>
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#162: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 21:36:07 by Mike Stevens

James Mitchelhill wrote:
&gt; On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 18:50:18 +0100, Mike Stevens wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; My biggest alarm problem on the canals is usuallyu Canada Geese.
&gt;&gt; Would any of our Canadian subscribers like to come and take them
&gt;&gt; home?
&gt;
&gt; You rural types have it easy. If anyone wants:

The worst place I know for being woken far to early by Canada Geese is in
Little Venice, Paddington, London W2. Hardly rural.

Another wildlife interlude recently was while we were moored for a few days
at Ware (Herts) on the River Lee, and would periodically be disturbed by the
sound of a great wash, as of a large boat approaching dangerously fast. But
it wasn;pt that at all. There were a flock of about 30 or 40 swans there.
One of them had appointed himself sergeant-major and would gather them
together bin squadron formation and drive them up the river at considerabloe
speed.

OK, it's tame stuff compared with the bear stories, but it amused us.


--
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narrowboat Felis Catus III
web-site www.mike-stevens.co.uk

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#163: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 21:39:07 by steelcat

In article &lt;syRrg.5485$<a href="mailto:cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&quot;Aggie Angst&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;&quot;Alec Cawley&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net..." target="_blank">MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net...</a>
&gt;&gt; But the girlies keep their dresses on.
&gt;
&gt;At least there's some sense of modesty in animation!

Less than you might think. ISTR a TV programme about Betty Boop which
showed at one point that she'd been drawn at least once without any
knickers on.

Cat.
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#164: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 21:53:07 by Daibhid Ceannaideach

The time: 08 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: <a href="mailto:steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk</a> (The Stainless Steel Cat)

&gt; In article
&gt; &lt;syRrg.5485$<a href="mailto:cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; &quot;Aggie Angst&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&quot;Alec Cawley&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt;&gt; But the girlies keep their dresses on.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;At least there's some sense of modesty in animation!
&gt;
&gt; Less than you might think. ISTR a TV programme about Betty
&gt; Boop which showed at one point that she'd been drawn at
&gt; least once without any knickers on.

It was subliminal images, though, which don't work. So no-one
watching the toon normally would actually *see* anything.
Ditto, I believe, Jessica Rabbit.

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#165: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 23:21:34 by Gid Holyoake

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:4hafpbF1b6mogU1&#64;individual.net" target="_blank">4hafpbF1b6mogU1&#64;individual.net</a>&gt;, Mike Stevens generously
decided to share with us..

Snippetry..

&gt; Another wildlife interlude recently was while we were moored for a few days
&gt; at Ware (Herts) on the River Lee, and would periodically be disturbed by the
&gt; sound of a great wash, as of a large boat approaching dangerously fast.

Think yourself lucky.. someone could have dropped a great bed from a
great height..

:-)

Gid

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#166: Re: -I- Don't feed the bears, was Water Voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 23:23:47 by Lesley Weston

in article <a href="mailto:4h9o6vF1qf93pU1&#64;individual.net" target="_blank">4h9o6vF1qf93pU1&#64;individual.net</a>, Diane L at
<a href="mailto:dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com" target="_blank">dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com</a> wrote on 08/07/2006 5:53 AM:

&gt; CCA wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; That reminds me of a more serious story in Bill Bryson's 'A Walk In
&gt;&gt; The Woods'. He tells of a family who, when picnicking in the
&gt;&gt; Appalachians, were approached by a bear (not sure whether it was
&gt;&gt; grizzly or black). They smeared their toddler's hand in honey, and
&gt;&gt; held it out for the bear to lick. Confused, the bear ate the baby's
&gt;&gt; hand.
&gt;
&gt; Dear God, are people really that stupid?

A woman I know used to work at the resort (sort of) on the top of Grouse
Mountain, one of the local mountains that is easier than the others to reach
because there is a gondola that takes you to the top, and therefore much
beloved of tourists and of Vancouverites who want to show off Vancouver to
visitors. She says that she was constantly being asked to take pictures of
people who wanted to take their small children to pet the bears - wild Black
Bears attracted to the site by all the food about; some of them got quite
annoyed when she refused. She was also often asked &quot;So what do you do with
all the animals at night? I don't see any cages anywhere...&quot;

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#167: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 23:25:45 by Mary Messall

Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of &quot;50%&quot;.
&gt; Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact that
&gt; someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt; shoelaces).

Late reply, but...

Isn't the *average* IQ defined to be 100? And since the great
majority of the population seems to succeed in tying its shoes, I
should think someone with an IQ of 100 could generally be trusted
to managed.

And be trusted to govern, too. If I didn't think the average
person could make wise decisions about how to run a country, I'd
have to oppose any kind of democracy. But in fact I'd much rather
be governed by a stupid but empathetic person than by a smart but
compassionless one. Personally.

Any kind of intelligence test for office holding or voting
strikes me as elitist. I'd rather have a sincerity test.

(Not that I believe IQ tests really test intelligence in any
meaningful sense, but we're avoiding that debate, I gather.)

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#168: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-08 23:34:54 by Lesley Weston

in article <a href="mailto:4ha9itF171mvgU1&#64;individual.net" target="_blank">4ha9itF171mvgU1&#64;individual.net</a>, Mike Stevens at
<a href="mailto:michael.stevens&#64;which.net" target="_blank">michael.stevens&#64;which.net</a> wrote on 08/07/2006 10:50 AM:

&gt; Arthur Hagen wrote:
&gt;&gt; CCA &lt;<a href="mailto:sphira9343&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">sphira9343&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone who speaks crow is welcome to come here and ask the ones in
&gt;&gt;&gt; the trees opposite me to please be a bit quieter so early in the
&gt;&gt;&gt; morning. I've been woken up several times by some crow
&gt;&gt;&gt; three-part-harmony of 'Morning Has Broken'.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I'd be happy to take your crows off your bush, if you in return will
&gt;&gt; accept the [#$@#~*%!] of crackles and the woodpecker outside my
&gt;&gt; bedroom.
&gt;
&gt; My biggest alarm problem on the canals is usuallyu Canada Geese. Would any
&gt; of our Canadian subscribers like to come and take them home?
&gt;
No thank you; we have plenty of our own. Many of them have realised that
there is no need to migrate every Spring and Autumn, so they just stay put.
They're extraordinarily elegant birds, with a rich social life - I like
having them around, but some people here are constantly trying to cut their
numbers down by all sorts of means except the obvious one: we have quite a
few people who need food and so use the Food Bank, and also quite a few
people who like shooting wildfowl and are good at it.

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#169: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 00:12:38 by Brenda

MetaMary said:

&gt; Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt;&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of
&gt;&gt; &quot;50%&quot;. Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact
&gt;&gt; that someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt;&gt; shoelaces).
&gt;
&gt; Late reply, but...
&gt;
&gt; Isn't the *average* IQ defined to be 100?

Yes, and my &quot;best case&quot; was based on officialdom realising this. Don't count
on it.

&gt; And since the great
&gt; majority of the population seems to succeed in tying its shoes,

Can you cite any independent studies to verify this claim? ;-)

&gt; I
&gt; should think someone with an IQ of 100 could generally be trusted
&gt; to managed.

I've met some astoundingly dense people with an IQ considerably higher than
100. It's scary.

&gt;
&gt; And be trusted to govern, too. If I didn't think the average
&gt; person could make wise decisions about how to run a country, I'd
&gt; have to oppose any kind of democracy.

Yeah. That's why I'm not a great fan of democracy myself. You may recall
that Sam Vimes rejected democracy after initially being attracted by the
idea. He quickly realised the problem: Nobby would get a vote too...

&gt; But in fact I'd much rather
&gt; be governed by a stupid but empathetic person than by a smart but
&gt; compassionless one. Personally.

I don't like the choices you present. I'd rather be governed by a smart,
compassionate *group* of people. When one person is making all the
decisions, they tend to be bad decisions.

&gt; Any kind of intelligence test for office holding or voting
&gt; strikes me as elitist. I'd rather have a sincerity test.

&quot;Always be sincere, whether you mean it or not.&quot; - Michael Flanders

&gt; (Not that I believe IQ tests really test intelligence in any
&gt; meaningful sense, but we're avoiding that debate, I gather.)

(I partly agree with you although I think there is at least /some/
significant correlation, but yes, I think it would be wise not to go
there.)

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#170: Re: [I] Miscellaneous sports // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 00:33:08 by Lesley Weston

in article MzRrg.5488$<a href="mailto:cd3.2761&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.2761&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>, Aggie Angst
at <a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a> wrote on 08/07/2006 10:03 AM:

&gt;
&gt; &quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:C0D46E8A.4B416%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt;&gt; in article e8kigp$2e6b$<a href="mailto:2&#64;mud.stack.nl" target="_blank">2&#64;mud.stack.nl</a>, 8'FED at <a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a> wrote
&gt;&gt; on
&gt;&gt; 06/07/2006 7:57 PM:
&gt;&gt;
&gt; ~~~~snip~~~
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; When I was at school in England, the really posh girls' schools played
&gt;&gt; lacrosse, field hockey and netball in Winter and cricket and tennis in
&gt;&gt; Summer. The ones I went to weren't quite so posh, so we just played hockey
&gt;&gt; and netball in Winter, and tennis in Summer.
&gt;
&gt; Still beats what we did. We just played Dodge the Mugger regardless of the
&gt; season.

I think all those games were supposed to be training for Dodge the Mugger. I
can't see what other purpose they served, and they were compulsory until you
reached the dizzying heights of the Sixth Form and started doing A-levels.

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#171: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 01:08:28 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Carol Hague wrote:
&gt; 8'FED wrote:

&gt;&gt; Well, I was responding to the question of to what extent Yogi is known
&gt;&gt; in the Antipodes, and the answer is that most people of my generation
&gt;&gt; are vaguely familiar with what Yogi is, but would have to ask our
&gt;&gt; parents if we wanted to know anything specific.
&gt;
&gt; I really don't see how you can know that - it may well be true for your
&gt; social circle, but unless you live in a very small town, I doubt that
&gt; you're acquainted with the whole of your generation in the place you
&gt; live, much less in the whole of Australia.
&gt;
&gt; I'm not saying that as an attack on you, but rather pointing out that
&gt; you're falling into the trap of extrapolating your (and your
&gt; acquaintances') experience to the entirety of of an age group in your
&gt; country. I honestly doubt that they're *that* homogenous.

I disagree that extrapolating is an error, because although you're
right that I can't know for certain, the fact remains that there is a
certain standard of confidence which is appropriate before making
statements in an educational textbook, another standard of confidence
which is appropriate before making statements in a newspaper, and yet
another standard of confidence which is appropriate before making
statements on Usenet.

I maintain that I _do_ know most of my generation's relationship to
Yogi to within the standard of confidence that is appropriate for
Usenet.

&gt; Sheesh, all this from one throwaway remark....

My perspective isn't much different. All this from one innocent post.
However, the nice thing is, if we push through the barrier of
misunderstanding and out the other side, we'll as often as not end up
talking about something totally different and unpredictable. That's
the beauty of afp for you.

&gt;&gt; As such, I don't see dismissing something as potentially
&gt;&gt; insulting unless someone has asked you to pay attention to it, or it
&gt;&gt; is for some reason irresponsible not to.
&gt;
&gt; Not deliberately insulting perhaps, but if you consider someone not
&gt; worth your attention, I daresay you can see how they might not be
&gt; entirely happy about it, assuming they felt your attention was worth
&gt; having?

So far, no cartoon character has ever tried to engage in social
interaction with me personally. If it did, I fully expect that it
would have my attention, or to put it better, my astonishment.

Adrian.

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#172: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 09:17:05 by April Goodwin-Smith

&quot;Mike Stevens&quot; wrote ...
&lt;snip&gt;
&gt; My biggest alarm problem on the canals is usually Canada
&gt; Geese. Would any of our Canadian subscribers like to
&gt; come and take them home?
&gt;

Um. No. As much as I would like to visit your floating
palace, no. We have tons. Everywhere there is mown
lawn and the most pathetic excuse for a puddle of water,
there is a horde of geese. By the end of summer, some
parks are so slick with natural processes that walking on
the lawn is not an option.

April.

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#173: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 11:45:43 by carol

8'FED &lt;<a href="mailto:dragon&#64;netyp.com.au" target="_blank">dragon&#64;netyp.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; I maintain that I _do_ know most of my generation's relationship to
&gt; Yogi to within the standard of confidence that is appropriate for
&gt; Usenet.

Actually, I'm usually a lot *more* careful about making blanket
statements on Usenet, because of the pedants lurking behind every
tree.... (cue pedant to tell me there are no trees on Usenet...)

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#174: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 17:16:58 by Lesley Weston

in article tpVrg.167959$<a href="mailto:F_3.165231&#64;newssvr29.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">F_3.165231&#64;newssvr29.news.prodigy.net</a>, MetaMary at
<a href="mailto:mks_mary&#64;sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">mks_mary&#64;sbcglobal.net</a> wrote on 08/07/2006 2:25 PM:

&gt; Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt;&gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of &quot;50%&quot;.
&gt;&gt; Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact that
&gt;&gt; someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt;&gt; shoelaces).
&gt;
&gt; Late reply, but...
&gt;
&gt; Isn't the *average* IQ defined to be 100? And since the great
&gt; majority of the population seems to succeed in tying its shoes, I
&gt; should think someone with an IQ of 100 could generally be trusted
&gt; to managed.
&gt;
&gt; And be trusted to govern, too. If I didn't think the average
&gt; person could make wise decisions about how to run a country, I'd
&gt; have to oppose any kind of democracy. But in fact I'd much rather
&gt; be governed by a stupid but empathetic person than by a smart but
&gt; compassionless one. Personally.
&gt;
&gt; Any kind of intelligence test for office holding or voting
&gt; strikes me as elitist. I'd rather have a sincerity test.

Oh well, if you will insist on being rational and making good points that
don't denigrate any section of society... I dunno, I guess we'll just have
to welcome you back.

Glad to see you again - I hope you'll stay around this time?

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#175: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 18:05:19 by Brenda

Carol Hague said:

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; Actually, I'm usually a lot *more* careful about making blanket
&gt; statements on Usenet, because of the pedants lurking behind every
&gt; tree.... (cue pedant to tell me there are no trees on Usenet...)

Oh, but there are! Every thread is a tree, the OP being the root and the
replies the branches.

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#176: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 18:35:46 by Ssirienna

&quot;Daibhid Ceanaideach&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">daibhidchenedelh&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; The time: 08 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
&gt; speaker: <a href="mailto:steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk</a> (The Stainless Steel Cat)
&gt;
&gt;&gt; In article
&gt;&gt; &lt;syRrg.5485$<a href="mailto:cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt; &quot;Aggie Angst&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Alec Cawley&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;&gt;news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net..." target="_blank">MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But the girlies keep their dresses on.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;At least there's some sense of modesty in animation!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Less than you might think. ISTR a TV programme about Betty
&gt;&gt; Boop which showed at one point that she'd been drawn at
&gt;&gt; least once without any knickers on.
&gt;
&gt; It was subliminal images, though, which don't work. So no-one
&gt; watching the toon normally would actually *see* anything.
&gt; Ditto, I believe, Jessica Rabbit.
&gt;
Yes, but she wasn't bad, she was just drawn that way ;-))

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#177: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 22:44:11 by Stacie Hanes

April Goodwin-Smith wrote:

&gt;By the end of summer, some
&gt; parks are so slick with natural processes that walking on
&gt; the lawn is not an option.

Natural processes . . .you mean . . . like, respiration, or possibly
mitosis?

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#178: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-09 23:47:29 by April Goodwin-Smith

&quot;Anastasia&quot; wrote ...
&gt; April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
&gt;&gt;By the end of summer, some parks are so slick with natural
&gt;&gt;processes that walking on the lawn is not an option.
&gt;
&gt; Natural processes . . .you mean . . . like, respiration, or possibly
&gt; mitosis?

It is quite possible that mitosis and respiration have begun
to take place before the end of summer.

Not to mention photolithotrophilia, the cha cha, and the rumba.

April.

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#179: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-10 08:04:35 by carol

Richard Heathfield &lt;<a href="mailto:invalid&#64;invalid.invalid" target="_blank">invalid&#64;invalid.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Carol Hague said:
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Actually, I'm usually a lot *more* careful about making blanket
&gt; &gt; statements on Usenet, because of the pedants lurking behind every
&gt; &gt; tree.... (cue pedant to tell me there are no trees on Usenet...)
&gt;
&gt; Oh, but there are! Every thread is a tree, the OP being the root and the
&gt; replies the branches.

Oh, leaf it out ! I should have twigged someone wood go barking.....

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#180: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-10 18:35:22 by Lesley Weston

in article RPesg.139816$<a href="mailto:iF6.46675&#64;pd7tw2no" target="_blank">iF6.46675&#64;pd7tw2no</a>, April Goodwin-Smith at
<a href="mailto:agoodwinsmith&#64;shaw.ca" target="_blank">agoodwinsmith&#64;shaw.ca</a> wrote on 09/07/2006 2:47 PM:

&gt; &quot;Anastasia&quot; wrote ...
&gt;&gt; April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; By the end of summer, some parks are so slick with natural
&gt;&gt;&gt; processes that walking on the lawn is not an option.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Natural processes . . .you mean . . . like, respiration, or possibly
&gt;&gt; mitosis?
&gt;
&gt; It is quite possible that mitosis and respiration have begun
&gt; to take place before the end of summer.
&gt;
&gt; Not to mention photolithotrophilia, the cha cha, and the rumba.

But we don't have to worry until they start developing language skills.

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#181: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 00:04:53 by raltbos

MetaMary &lt;<a href="mailto:mks_mary&#64;sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">mks_mary&#64;sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Richard Heathfield wrote:
&gt; &gt; Anyway, betcha the people setting the tests would set a pass rate of &quot;50%&quot;.
&gt; &gt; Best case, that would mean IQs of 100 would pass (despite the fact that
&gt; &gt; someone with an IQ of 100 can barely be trusted to tie their own
&gt; &gt; shoelaces).
&gt;
&gt; Late reply, but...
&gt;
&gt; Isn't the *average* IQ defined to be 100?

Depends on which IQ. The theoretical IQ is defined to be precisely 100,
but that includes both geniuses and (clinical) imbeciles. In practice,
the &quot;official&quot; IQ (for school testing purposes, &amp;c.) is often defined by
a fixed set of tests, and one frequently sees that over the years the IQ
goes up. Since I very much doubt that we are all that much more
intelligent than our grandparents, that is another indication that IQ
does not measure intelligence at all but something different -
education, for example.

&gt; And since the great majority of the population seems to succeed
&gt; in tying its shoes,

But not to read for comprehension, it often seems :-/

&gt; And be trusted to govern, too. If I didn't think the average
&gt; person could make wise decisions about how to run a country, I'd
&gt; have to oppose any kind of democracy.

I don't believe for a second that any single person could make wise
enough decisions about running a country, but I do believe that sixty
million mostly fools, averaged together, will probably, in the long run,
manage better than any small, self-selected group of management types.

&gt; Any kind of intelligence test for office holding or voting
&gt; strikes me as elitist. I'd rather have a sincerity test.

And yet the idea is at least as old as Plato. I don't care about the
elitist part. If there really _were_ an elite that could be relied on to
run the country better than an often-changed elected government, I'd be
all for it; but I do not believe that there is such an elite. Even more
importantly, I believe even if there were one, we wouldn't be able to
find it. Never mind intelligence and sincerity tests; we would need a
wisdom test, and there ain't no such beast. And all attempts to draw one
up would, I fear, result in a power-hunger-and-media-genius test in
disguise.

Richard

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Posted on 2006-07-11 05:15:13 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Lesley Weston&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:C0D7D01F.4B567%<a href="mailto:brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk..." target="_blank">brightly_coloured_blob&#64;yahoo.co.uk...</a>
&gt; in article RPesg.139816$<a href="mailto:iF6.46675&#64;pd7tw2no" target="_blank">iF6.46675&#64;pd7tw2no</a>, April Goodwin-Smith at
&gt; <a href="mailto:agoodwinsmith&#64;shaw.ca" target="_blank">agoodwinsmith&#64;shaw.ca</a> wrote on 09/07/2006 2:47 PM:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &quot;Anastasia&quot; wrote ...
&gt;&gt;&gt; April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; By the end of summer, some parks are so slick with natural
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; processes that walking on the lawn is not an option.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Natural processes . . .you mean . . . like, respiration, or possibly
&gt;&gt;&gt; mitosis?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; It is quite possible that mitosis and respiration have begun
&gt;&gt; to take place before the end of summer.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Not to mention photolithotrophilia, the cha cha, and the rumba.
&gt;
&gt; But we don't have to worry until they start developing language skills.
&gt;
Then they're just a hop, skip, and a jump away from running for office...
;)
Aggie

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#183: Re: -I- Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 05:20:55 by Aggie Angst

&quot;Arthur Hagen&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:e8ont7$lc7$<a href="mailto:1&#64;tree.broomstick.com..." target="_blank">1&#64;tree.broomstick.com...</a>
&gt; CCA &lt;<a href="mailto:sphira9343&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">sphira9343&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; CeltiKaos wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:37:28 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; I don't suppose you happen to speak 'crow'? I have some requests ;)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Anyone who speaks crow is welcome to come here and ask the ones in the
&gt;&gt; trees opposite me to please be a bit quieter so early in the morning.
&gt;&gt; I've been woken up several times by some crow three-part-harmony of
&gt;&gt; 'Morning Has Broken'.
&gt;
&gt; I'd be happy to take your crows off your bush, if you in return will
&gt; accept the [#$@#~*%!] of crackles and the woodpecker outside my bedroom.
&gt;
&gt; [#$@#~*%!]: NAF, although if anyone knows what a [ ] of grackles is
&gt; called, feel free to fill in.

A Gang of Grackles? A Grackle Group? A Crackle of Gackles?
:|
Aggie

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#184: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 05:24:29 by Aggie Angst

&quot;The Stainless Steel Cat&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:<a href="mailto:C0D5C86B966827124D&#64;192.168.0.2..." target="_blank">C0D5C86B966827124D&#64;192.168.0.2...</a>
&gt; In article &lt;syRrg.5485$<a href="mailto:cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; &quot;Aggie Angst&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&quot;Alec Cawley&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net..." target="_blank">MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; But the girlies keep their dresses on.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;At least there's some sense of modesty in animation!
&gt;
&gt; Less than you might think. ISTR a TV programme about Betty Boop which
&gt; showed at one point that she'd been drawn at least once without any
&gt; knickers on.

Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
:|
Aggie

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#185: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 05:39:17 by Arthur Hagen

Richard Bos &lt;<a href="mailto:raltbos&#64;xs4all.nl" target="_blank">raltbos&#64;xs4all.nl</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Since I very much doubt that we are
&gt; all that much more intelligent than our grandparents, that is another
&gt; indication that IQ does not measure intelligence at all but something
&gt; different - education, for example.

On average, we /are/ somewhat more intelligent than our grandparents, just
like we on average are taller, and on average live longer. Better
nutrition, for one thing, has a very measurable effect.

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#186: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 09:01:00 by Peter Ellis

Arthur Hagen wrote:
&gt; Richard Bos &lt;<a href="mailto:raltbos&#64;xs4all.nl" target="_blank">raltbos&#64;xs4all.nl</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Since I very much doubt that we are
&gt;&gt; all that much more intelligent than our grandparents, that is another
&gt;&gt; indication that IQ does not measure intelligence at all but something
&gt;&gt; different - education, for example.
&gt;
&gt; On average, we /are/ somewhat more intelligent than our grandparents,
&gt; just like we on average are taller, and on average live longer. Better
&gt; nutrition, for one thing, has a very measurable effect.

Conclusion: always vote for the fattest candidate.

Peter

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Posted on 2006-07-11 09:53:16 by unknown

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#188: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 12:45:26 by Lister

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 GMT, &quot;Aggie Angst&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;&quot;The Stainless Steel Cat&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk" target="_blank">steelcat&#64;atuin.demon.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;news:<a href="mailto:C0D5C86B966827124D&#64;192.168.0.2..." target="_blank">C0D5C86B966827124D&#64;192.168.0.2...</a>
&gt;&gt; In article &lt;syRrg.5485$<a href="mailto:cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net" target="_blank">cd3.2343&#64;newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt; &quot;Aggie Angst&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Alec Cawley&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk" target="_blank">alec&#64;spamspam.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt;&gt;news:<a href="mailto:MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net..." target="_blank">MPG.1f19005e6f36eade989d4f&#64;news.individual.net...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But the girlies keep their dresses on.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;At least there's some sense of modesty in animation!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Less than you might think. ISTR a TV programme about Betty Boop which
&gt;&gt; showed at one point that she'd been drawn at least once without any
&gt;&gt; knickers on.
&gt;
&gt;Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt;:|
&gt;Aggie
&gt;


I'd be interested in a JPG of this :)

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#189: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 14:46:36 by Julian Hall

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt; :|
&gt; Aggie

Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
department would have been spotted.
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#190: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 19:08:39 by steelcat

In article ,
Julian Hall &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt;&gt; :|
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt;Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
&gt;department would have been spotted.

IIRC it wasn't spotted by either the censors or the audience. It was just a
quick flash (hur hur) and an animators' in-joke.

Anyway, why &quot;regrettably&quot;? Have you seen Betty? When she did that cameo in
&quot;Roger Rabbit&quot; she completely outshone Jessica Rabbit in the sexiness
department and that was 58 years after her first film!

Hubba hubba! [eyes springing out, tongue unrolling across the floor, steam
coming out of ears etc.]

Cat.
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#191: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-11 23:01:44 by alec

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:4hh0ldF1q22f5U1&#64;individual.net" target="_blank">4hh0ldF1q22f5U1&#64;individual.net</a>&gt;, <a href="mailto:pjie2&#64;cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">pjie2&#64;cam.ac.uk</a> says...
&gt; Arthur Hagen wrote:
&gt; &gt; Richard Bos &lt;<a href="mailto:raltbos&#64;xs4all.nl" target="_blank">raltbos&#64;xs4all.nl</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Since I very much doubt that we are
&gt; &gt;&gt; all that much more intelligent than our grandparents, that is another
&gt; &gt;&gt; indication that IQ does not measure intelligence at all but something
&gt; &gt;&gt; different - education, for example.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; On average, we /are/ somewhat more intelligent than our grandparents,
&gt; &gt; just like we on average are taller, and on average live longer. Better
&gt; &gt; nutrition, for one thing, has a very measurable effect.
&gt;
&gt; Conclusion: always vote for the fattest candidate.


Since it is in very early years that the extra nutrition is the most
valuable, vote for the one with the fattest mother.

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#192: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 05:08:32 by Aggie Angst

Aleks A.-Lessmann wrote:
&gt; On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:13:26 GMT, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
&gt;&gt; business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it
&gt;&gt; might as
&gt;
&gt; Does it help if I tell you it's exactly the same in Germany?
&gt; I thought not.
&gt; Sorry.

No. :( It's depressing, not suprising, but still...

&gt; It has come even to companies writing the laws. Sadly it wasn't much
&gt; publicized, but a Hedge Fonds Law passed a couple of year ago was
&gt; written word by word by a big financial company, and an Energy Law by
&gt; one of the bigger energy companies.
&gt;
&gt; Word for word comparisons of leaked internal documents from those
&gt; companies and the laws and commentaries brought it up to light, but
&gt; there was no outcry at all.
&gt;
&gt; Sad state of things in our oligarchies misnomed democracies.
&gt; Aleks

Our current energy policy was written in a closed door session with the
Vice - President and the heads of the major oil companies. And everyone
wonders why they have reaped record profits. :p
<a href="http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/energytf.html" target="_blank">http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/energytf.html</a>
Don't feel obligated to read it, but I post it for reference to show I'm not
totally raving loony.
You can google Dick Cheney Energy Policy and get a whole bunch of scary
looking hits.
:(
Aggie

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#193: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 05:18:04 by Aggie Angst

Lister wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 GMT, &quot;Aggie Angst&quot;
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Less than you might think. ISTR a TV programme about Betty Boop
&gt;&gt;&gt; which showed at one point that she'd been drawn at least once
&gt;&gt;&gt; without any knickers on.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; I'd be interested in a JPG of this :)

You are talking to the woman who drew little cartoon under britches on the
main character in Maurice Sendak's In the Night Kitchen.

Yes I did.
Aggie
:)
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#194: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 05:19:33 by Aggie Angst

Julian Hall wrote:
&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.

&gt; Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
&gt; department would have been spotted.

What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking in the first
place.
It's a cartoon!
;)
Aggie

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#195: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 13:03:41 by Julian Hall

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:19:33 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking in the first
&gt; place.
&gt; It's a cartoon!
&gt; ;)
&gt; Aggie

Did I mention the gaffe in 'Sooty &amp; Sweep'? I think I did, and you didn't
have to be even watching for that one! :)
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#196: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 13:38:06 by Lister

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:03:41 +0100, Julian Hall
&lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:19:33 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking in the first
&gt;&gt; place.
&gt;&gt; It's a cartoon!
&gt;&gt; ;)
&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;
&gt;Did I mention the gaffe in 'Sooty &amp; Sweep'? I think I did, and you didn't
&gt;have to be even watching for that one! :)


Is that when Sue (Soo?) wasn't wearing any clothes? :)

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#197: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 16:35:39 by Diane L

Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
&gt;&gt; department would have been spotted.
&gt;
&gt; What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking in the
&gt; first place.
&gt; It's a cartoon!
&gt; ;)

At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
Simpsons porn site.

Diane L.

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#198: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 16:35:39 by Julian Hall

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:38:06 +0100, Lister wrote:

&gt; Is that when Sue (Soo?) wasn't wearing any clothes? :)

No Sweep was playing with a toy helicopter and aggravating everyone.

Sue said 'SWEEP! If you're going to play with your chopper[1], play with
it quietly!'

[1] Not always a helicopter in the UK *ahem*

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#199: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 16:35:39 by Lister

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:13:30 +0100, Julian Hall
&lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:38:06 +0100, Lister wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Is that when Sue (Soo?) wasn't wearing any clothes? :)
&gt;
&gt;No Sweep was playing with a toy helicopter and aggravating everyone.
&gt;
&gt;Sue said 'SWEEP! If you're going to play with your chopper[1], play with
&gt;it quietly!'
&gt;
&gt;[1] Not always a helicopter in the UK *ahem*


Ah, sounds like the infamous &quot;Twangers&quot; episode of &quot;Rainbow&quot;

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#200: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 18:27:02 by Julian Hall

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:31:13 +0100, Lister wrote:

&gt; Ah, sounds like the infamous &quot;Twangers&quot; episode of &quot;Rainbow&quot;

Except this one was broadcast and wasn't just a putup job for the TV
company Xmas Party.
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#201: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-12 18:50:53 by Lister

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:27:02 +0100, Julian Hall
&lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:31:13 +0100, Lister wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Ah, sounds like the infamous &quot;Twangers&quot; episode of &quot;Rainbow&quot;
&gt;
&gt;Except this one was broadcast and wasn't just a putup job for the TV
&gt;company Xmas Party.


So I see. :)

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#202: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-13 12:20:44 by the Tinfoil Hat of Reason

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:40:04 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Diane L,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:

&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt; Simpsons porn site.
&lt;cue music&gt; &quot; The Spam..sons&lt;/cue music&gt;

C:\&gt;
(I didn't bother to take my coat _off_)
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#203: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-13 16:17:16 by Julian Hall

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:20:44 +1000, the Tinfoil Hat of Reason wrote:

&gt; &lt;cue music&gt; &quot; The Spam..sons&lt;/cue music&gt;
&gt;
&gt; C:\&gt;
&gt; (I didn't bother to take my coat _off_)

Or as an alternative...

Spamstones meet the Spamstones,
They're a modern spamming family,
From the, East of Europe[1]
At least it saves a lot of trees

(Start the car! ;))

[1] Chosen for no other reason than it fitted the melody :)
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#204: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-13 20:13:04 by Daibhid Ceannaideach

The time: 12 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: &quot;Aggie Angst&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com" target="_blank">aggieangst&#64;myinvalidway.com</a>&gt;

&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the
&gt;&gt; underwear department would have been spotted.
&gt;
&gt; What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking
&gt; in the first place.
&gt; It's a cartoon!
&gt; ;)

OTOH, so's Pamela Anderson...


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#205: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-13 23:13:57 by Julian Hall

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:13:04 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

&gt; OTOH, so's Pamela Anderson...

She's a bit 3D for a cartoon :)
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#206: Re: [I] Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-14 16:33:36 by Mary Messall

Richard Bos wrote:
&gt; MetaMary &lt;<a href="mailto:mks_mary&#64;sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">mks_mary&#64;sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;And be trusted to govern, too. If I didn't think the average
&gt;&gt;person could make wise decisions about how to run a country, I'd
&gt;&gt;have to oppose any kind of democracy.
&gt; I don't believe for a second that any single person could make wise
&gt; enough decisions about running a country, but I do believe that sixty
&gt; million mostly fools, averaged together, will probably, in the long run,
&gt; manage better than any small, self-selected group of management types.

True... But true for *any* single person, however high their IQ
score. Only we do have individuals in charge of things to a
certain extent, government officials and representatives, and I'm
saying I'd prefer that those individuals come from all walks of
life. High IQ scores tend to come from certain narrow demographics.

&gt;&gt;Any kind of intelligence test for office holding or voting
&gt;&gt;strikes me as elitist. I'd rather have a sincerity test.
&gt; And yet the idea is at least as old as Plato. I don't care about the
&gt; elitist part. If there really _were_ an elite that could be relied on to
&gt; run the country better than an often-changed elected government, I'd be
&gt; all for it;

I guess so... But different groups have different interests, and
even an elite that was capable of any kind of arcane problem
solving might still end up serving its own interests, at the
expense of others, most of the time. So I'd rather have
representatives of all groups.

&gt; but I do not believe that there is such an elite. Even more
&gt; importantly, I believe even if there were one, we wouldn't be able to
&gt; find it. Never mind intelligence and sincerity tests; we would need a
&gt; wisdom test, and there ain't no such beast. And all attempts to draw one
&gt; up would, I fear, result in a power-hunger-and-media-genius test in
&gt; disguise.

Yeah, exactly.

-Mary

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#207: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:50:47 by Aggie Angst

Diane L wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; Julian Hall wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
&gt;&gt;&gt; department would have been spotted.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; What bothers me, is that there's someone out there looking in the
&gt;&gt; first place.
&gt;&gt; It's a cartoon!
&gt;&gt; ;)
&gt;
&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt; Simpsons porn site.
&gt;
Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
I don't even like to think about that one.
8o
Aggie

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#208: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-16 06:54:52 by Aggie Angst

The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:
&gt; In article ,
&gt; Julian Hall &lt;<a href="mailto:lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk" target="_blank">lists&#64;removethisbit.kaotic.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:24:29 +0000, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yargh! I hope her dress was long enough.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Aggie
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Regrettably probably not or I doubt the deficit in the underwear
&gt;&gt; department would have been spotted.
&gt;
&gt; IIRC it wasn't spotted by either the censors or the audience. It was
&gt; just a quick flash (hur hur) and an animators' in-joke.
&gt;
&gt; Anyway, why &quot;regrettably&quot;? Have you seen Betty? When she did that
&gt; cameo in &quot;Roger Rabbit&quot; she completely outshone Jessica Rabbit in the
&gt; sexiness department and that was 58 years after her first film!
&gt;
&gt; Hubba hubba! [eyes springing out, tongue unrolling across the floor,
&gt; steam coming out of ears etc.]
&gt;
Yes and oddly enough I don't get steamed up over:
1. girlies
2. imaginary characters

Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax***
Somebody has to be the disapproving spinster...
;)

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#209: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-16 10:20:22 by Brian Howlett

On 16 Jul, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; Diane L wrote:

[snip]

&gt;&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt;&gt; Simpsons porn site.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
&gt; I don't even like to think about that one.
&gt;
I wonder if Torak's still got the brain bleach...
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If you let the smoke out, they stop working...

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#210: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-16 12:39:15 by Diane L

Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; Diane L wrote:
&lt;snip&gt;
&gt;&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt;&gt; Simpsons porn site.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
&gt; I don't even like to think about that one.

I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little 'squick'
space for those who don't want to know any more...

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The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
with two thoughts
1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
and
2) Ewwwwwww!!!

Diane L.

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#211: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-16 13:15:15 by Lister

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:39:15 +0100, &quot;Diane L&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com" target="_blank">dianenews&#64;lindquist.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; Diane L wrote:
&gt;&lt;snip&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt;&gt;&gt; Simpsons porn site.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
&gt;&gt; I don't even like to think about that one.
&gt;
&gt;I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little 'squick'
&gt;space for those who don't want to know any more...
&gt;
&gt;s
&gt;p
&gt;a
&gt;c
&gt;e
&gt;
&gt;f
&gt;o
&gt;r
&gt;
&gt;s
&gt;e
&gt;n
&gt;s
&gt;i
&gt;t
&gt;i
&gt;v
&gt;e
&gt;
&gt;s
&gt;o
&gt;u
&gt;l
&gt;s
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
&gt;of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
&gt;thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
&gt;with two thoughts
&gt;1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
&gt;and
&gt;2) Ewwwwwww!!!
&gt;
&gt;Diane L.
&gt;



Oh, that. VERY old spam.

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#212: [I] lobbying

Posted on 2006-07-16 16:33:07 by nomail

&gt; &gt;Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
&gt; &gt;business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it might as
&gt;
&gt; Does it help if I tell you it's exactly the same in Germany?
&gt; I thought not.
&gt; Sorry.

Does it help anyone if I remind you that this has been going on in the
USA for the last 230 years, and that it's been worse at times during our
history?

Thought not, as well.

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#213: Re: [I] lobbying

Posted on 2006-07-16 16:54:28 by Arthur Hagen

Boyd Bottorff &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
&gt;&gt;&gt; business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it
&gt;&gt;&gt; might as
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Does it help if I tell you it's exactly the same in Germany?
&gt;&gt; I thought not.
&gt;&gt; Sorry.
&gt;
&gt; Does it help anyone if I remind you that this has been going on in the
&gt; USA for the last 230 years, and that it's been worse at times during
&gt; our history?
&gt;
&gt; Thought not, as well.

Does it help to point out that &quot;worse&quot; without a specification of what
was[1] measured is a purely subjective term?

[1]: Or, in this case, I supect /wasn't/ is a better word.

Regards,
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#214: Re: [I] lobbying

Posted on 2006-07-16 17:26:47 by nomail

&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; might as

&lt;snip&gt;

&gt; &gt; Does it help anyone if I remind you that this has been going on in the
&gt; &gt; USA for the last 230 years, and that it's been worse at times during
&gt; &gt; our history?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Thought not, as well.
&gt;
&gt; Does it help to point out that &quot;worse&quot; without a specification of what
&gt; was[1] measured is a purely subjective term?

Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time quantifying the amount of
lobbying that goes on, or ever has gone on.

My benchmark was the fact that the railroads, and to a lesser extent,
other high-bucks industries from (very) roughly 1850 to 1920 didn't
bother to hide the fact that they had politicians in their pockets, and
instead of suggesting improvements to laws, practically handed the
politicians the finished product to sign. Plus there wasn't much in the
way of organized resistance, so the lobbying tended to be one-sided.

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#215: Re: [I] lobbying

Posted on 2006-07-16 17:51:40 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Boyd Bottorff wrote:


&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Influence peddling is nasty business no matter who is doing it. Big
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; business dictates so much of what Washington does these days, it
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; might as
&gt;
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;


Boyd, why is it that you never include attributions?

Is it that you believe it's irrelevant who says what - that the
individuality of participants in a Usenet conversation should be
abstracted away leaving nothing but a sort of impersonal husk: an
abstract object of type Conversant whose ID is a private member?

Or, alternatively, do you have a reason that isn't totally insane?

Adrian.

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#216: Re: [I] lobbying

Posted on 2006-07-16 19:06:48 by Arthur Hagen

Boyd Bottorff &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time quantifying the amount of
&gt; lobbying that goes on, or ever has gone on.

True. One thing that can be quantified is campaign distributions (no-one
would make one without expecting results back). And it seems to me to be at
a record high.

Regards,
--
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#217: Re: [I] lobbying

Posted on 2006-07-16 19:49:33 by alec

In article &lt;e9drn8$rj3$<a href="mailto:1&#64;tree.broomstick.com" target="_blank">1&#64;tree.broomstick.com</a>&gt;, <a href="mailto:art&#64;broomstick.com" target="_blank">art&#64;broomstick.com</a>
says...
&gt; Boyd Bottorff &lt;<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Yeah, but you're going to have a hard time quantifying the amount of
&gt; &gt; lobbying that goes on, or ever has gone on.
&gt;
&gt; True. One thing that can be quantified is campaign distributions (no-one
&gt; would make one without expecting results back). And it seems to me to be at
&gt; a record high.

But there are two ways campaign contributions could be interpreted.

Version one, the legitimate version:
A1. Politician declared his policies.
A2. People and companies who support those policies help him get
elected.

Version two, the illegitimate version:
B1. Companies tell politicians what policies they would like to see.
B2. Politicain alters his policies to be similar to those the company
wants.
B3. Companies give thsa tpolitician money, saying that all they are
doing is A2.

Even in case A, donors are expecting results; but the politician will
deliver those results because (presumably) he believes in them. In cas
B, the money is twisting the politician as well as influencing the vote.

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#218: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-16 20:44:42 by Aggie Angst

Diane L wrote:
&gt; Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;&gt; Diane L wrote:
&gt; &lt;snip&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt;&gt;&gt; Simpsons porn site.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
&gt;&gt; I don't even like to think about that one.
&gt;
&gt; I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little
&gt; 'squick' space for those who don't want to know any more...
&gt;
&gt; s
&gt; p
&gt; a
&gt; c
&gt; e
&gt;
&gt; f
&gt; o
&gt; r
&gt;
&gt; s
&gt; e
&gt; n
&gt; s
&gt; i
&gt; t
&gt; i
&gt; v
&gt; e
&gt;
&gt; s
&gt; o
&gt; u
&gt; l
&gt; s
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
&gt; of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
&gt; thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
&gt; with two thoughts
&gt; 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
&gt; and
&gt; 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
&gt;

I don't understand people who think like this. I'm not attempting to be
superior here, it's just a statement of fact. Never in my life would I have
ever thought of Simpson's porn. My psyche is incapable of producing these
kinds of images on its own. But to think of it being used as a tool by
pedophiles and baby rapers to do their nasty deeds makes me see little red
spots in front of my eyes.


Aggie

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#219: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-16 20:47:33 by Aggie Angst

Brian Howlett wrote:
&gt; On 16 Jul, Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Diane L wrote:
&gt;
&gt; [snip]
&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt;&gt;&gt; Simpsons porn site.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Okay. I'm gonna need a really long shower and maybe some penicillin.
&gt;&gt; I don't even like to think about that one.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; I wonder if Torak's still got the brain bleach...

I hope so. I've got porn spam headers stuck in my brain from spams I didn't
even open because of the truly scary titles. The last words from my
deathbed will probably be, &quot;Zoogirl love her pony.&quot; :(

Aggie

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#220: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-17 02:28:25 by the Tinfoil Hat of Reason

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:54:52 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Aggie Angst,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:

&gt; Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax*** Somebody has to be the
&gt; disapproving spinster...

Aggie, may I borrow that? My sigmonster is nipping my ankles again...

C:\&gt;

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#221: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-17 03:56:33 by Flesh-eating Dragon

Aggie Angst wrote:
&gt; Diane L wrote:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; At one point, I was getting regular spam offering me access to a
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Simpsons porn site.
[...]
&gt;&gt; I was, if possible, worse than that. I think I'll leave a little
&gt;&gt; 'squick' space for those who don't want to know any more...

Why? They are, as you say, &quot;cartoon characters, FGS!&quot;

&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; p
&gt;&gt; a
&gt;&gt; c
&gt;&gt; e
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; f
&gt;&gt; o
&gt;&gt; r
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; e
&gt;&gt; n
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; i
&gt;&gt; t
&gt;&gt; i
&gt;&gt; v
&gt;&gt; e
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; o
&gt;&gt; u
&gt;&gt; l
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
&gt;&gt; of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
&gt;&gt; thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
&gt;&gt; with two thoughts
&gt;&gt; 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
&gt;&gt; and
&gt;&gt; 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
&gt;
&gt; I don't understand people who think like this. I'm not attempting to be
&gt; superior here, it's just a statement of fact. Never in my life would I have
&gt; ever thought of Simpson's porn. My psyche is incapable of producing these
&gt; kinds of images on its own. But to think of it being used as a tool by
&gt; pedophiles and baby rapers to do their nasty deeds makes me see little red
&gt; spots in front of my eyes.

Has anyone yet mentioned the classic bit from _Red Dwarf_?

&quot;After perhaps ninety hours of watching the Flintstones, something
strange seemed to happen to Lister.
'Cat,' he grunted, without removing his eyes from the screen.
'Umf?' the Cat grunted back.
'Is it me, or is Wilma Flintstone incredibly sexy?'
The Cat swivelled and looked at him, then turned his head back
to the screen.
'Wilma Flinstone,' he said with quiet authority, 'is without
question the most desirable woman who ever lived.'
Lister looked at him, to see if he was serious. He was. 'That's
good,' he said. 'I thought I was going a bit whacko. What d'you
think of Betty?'
'Betty Rubble?' The Cat mulled it over. 'We-ell, I would /go/
with Betty,' he said, then added whistfully: 'but I'd be thinking
of Wilma.'
They both lapsed into silen teverie.
'What are we doing?' Lister said, finally. 'I think we've been
in the medical unit for too long. Why are we talking about making
love to Wilma Flintstone?'
'You're right,' the Cat agreed. 'We're nuts. This is an insane
conversation.'
Lister shook his head, sadly. 'She'd never leave Fred, and we
know it.&quot;

Someone had to mention it.

Adrian.

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#222: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-17 23:17:32 by Julian Hall

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:39:15 +0100, Diane L wrote:

&gt; s
&gt; p
&gt; a
&gt; c
&gt; e
&gt;
&gt; f
&gt; o
&gt; r
&gt;
&gt; s
&gt; e
&gt; n
&gt; s
&gt; i
&gt; t
&gt; i
&gt; v
&gt; e
&gt;
&gt; s
&gt; o
&gt; u
&gt; l
&gt; s
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion
&gt; of Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big
&gt; thing of the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me
&gt; with two thoughts
&gt; 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
&gt; and
&gt; 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
&gt;
&gt; Diane L.

Think yourself lucky you weren't sent the actual pictures. I was once.

Yeesh!
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Kind regards,

Julian Hall
&quot;I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home&quot;

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#223: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-18 00:41:06 by matt

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:17:32 +0100, Julian Hall wrote:

&gt; On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:39:15 +0100, Diane L wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; p
&gt;&gt; a
&gt;&gt; c
&gt;&gt; e
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; f
&gt;&gt; o
&gt;&gt; r
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; e
&gt;&gt; n
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; i
&gt;&gt; t
&gt;&gt; i
&gt;&gt; v
&gt;&gt; e
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt; o
&gt;&gt; u
&gt;&gt; l
&gt;&gt; s
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The *really* disturbing thing, even more disturbing than the notion of
&gt;&gt; Simpsons porn in the first place, was that the spam made a big thing of
&gt;&gt; the incest and under-age aspects of the porn. Leaving me with two
&gt;&gt; thoughts
&gt;&gt; 1) They're cartoon characters, FGS!
&gt;&gt; and
&gt;&gt; 2) Ewwwwwww!!!
&gt;
&gt; Think yourself lucky you weren't sent the actual pictures. I was once.
&gt;
&gt; Yeesh!

When I was 11 I was sent pictures of a woman and a horse, the sender sent
them to everyone he knew the email address of at school (he was in my
class). Back then quite a few people shared email addresses with their
parents (including me, but luckily I saw the mail first and deleted it, no
doubt I'd have been banned from the Internet for months had it been found
by my mum).

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#224: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-18 12:18:43 by Julian Hall

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:47:33 -0500, Aggie Angst wrote:

&gt; I hope so. I've got porn spam headers stuck in my brain from spams I didn't
&gt; even open because of the truly scary titles. The last words from my
&gt; deathbed will probably be, &quot;Zoogirl love her pony.&quot; :(
&gt;
&gt; Aggie

She probably has a nice pink 'My Little Pony' that she sits and combs the
hair of all day. Her Daddy's a zookeeper *helpful look*
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Kind regards,

Julian Hall
&quot;I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home&quot;

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#225: Re: [I] lobbying

Posted on 2006-07-19 23:58:50 by raltbos

<a href="mailto:nomail&#64;nomail.com" target="_blank">nomail&#64;nomail.com</a> (Boyd Bottorff) wrote:

&gt; My benchmark was the fact that the railroads, and to a lesser extent,
&gt; other high-bucks industries from (very) roughly 1850 to 1920 didn't
&gt; bother to hide the fact that they had politicians in their pockets, and
&gt; instead of suggesting improvements to laws, practically handed the
&gt; politicians the finished product to sign. Plus there wasn't much in the
&gt; way of organized resistance, so the lobbying tended to be one-sided.

*cough*Haliburton*cough*

Richard

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#226: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-21 04:57:03 by Aggie Angst

the Tinfoil Hat of Reason wrote:
&gt; On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:54:52 +1000, a collection of particles
&gt; arranged in such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as
&gt; Aggie Angst, influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax*** Somebody has to be
&gt;&gt; the disapproving spinster...
&gt;
&gt; Aggie, may I borrow that? My sigmonster is nipping my ankles again...
&gt;
&gt; C:\&gt;

Absolutely, and sorry it took me so long to reply. I've been in server
hell.
:)
Aggie

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#227: Re: [I] Cartoon characters // was Water voles

Posted on 2006-07-23 11:42:14 by the Tinfoil Hat of Reason

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:57:03 +1000, a collection of particles arranged in
such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Aggie Angst,
influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:

&gt; the Tinfoil Hat of Reason wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:54:52 +1000, a collection of particles arranged
&gt;&gt; in such a way as to form a person that we would recognise as Aggie
&gt;&gt; Angst, influenced tha intarweb to propagate the following:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Aggie ***invokes the spirit of Esme Weatherwax*** Somebody has to be
&gt;&gt;&gt; the disapproving spinster...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Aggie, may I borrow that? My sigmonster is nipping my ankles again...
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; C:\&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Absolutely, and sorry it took me so long to reply. I've been in server
&gt; hell.
&gt; :)
&gt; Aggie

Thank you, I've been suffering a bit of orkload myself.

*snoozing purring sigmonster*

C:\&gt;

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