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#1: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-09 19:38:12 by user

There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi. Plus
it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
battle.

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#2: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 01:08:42 by Anybody

In article &lt;8miig.42755$<a href="mailto:fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net</a>&gt;,
&quot;Crimson*&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:user&#64;isp.com" target="_blank">user&#64;isp.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
&gt; deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
&gt; dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi. Plus
&gt; it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
&gt; battle.

It really depends what you mean by &quot;dramatic&quot;.

Yoda and Obi-Wan's deaths were the most drama-ridden, Qui-Gon's death
was probably the most energetic while the cut-scene of Shaak Ti's death
might have been the most emotional.

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#3: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 01:56:02 by nospamcm_anon76

&quot;Anybody&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:100620061108424541%<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com..." target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com...</a>
&gt; In article &lt;8miig.42755$<a href="mailto:fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; &quot;Crimson*&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:user&#64;isp.com" target="_blank">user&#64;isp.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
&gt;&gt; deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
&gt;&gt; dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi.
&gt;&gt; Plus
&gt;&gt; it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
&gt;&gt; battle.
&gt;
&gt; It really depends what you mean by &quot;dramatic&quot;.
&gt;
&gt; Yoda and Obi-Wan's deaths were the most drama-ridden, Qui-Gon's death
&gt; was probably the most energetic while the cut-scene of Shaak Ti's death
&gt; might have been the most emotional.

The most 'dramatic' death to me is the most regrettable death.

I didn't have big regrets for Shaak Ti. She never knew what hit her.

I had bigger regrets for Ki Adi Mundi. To see the most noble and honorable
member of the Jedi council gunned down was truly tragic.

Obi-Wan's death in ANH was tragic much for the same reason, but maybe less
so because Obi-Wan chose to die. Maybe 'shocking' would be a better word to
desribe Obi-Wan's death.

Qui-Gon was not as skilled or as intelligent as Obi-Wan and Ki Adi Mundi.
His death seemed less tragic, and more the result of flawed thinking.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

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#4: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 02:38:40 by Anybody

In article &lt;mUnig.72$<a href="mailto:891.30&#64;trndny01" target="_blank">891.30&#64;trndny01</a>&gt;, &quot;Christopher M.&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:nospamcm_anon76&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">nospamcm_anon76&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; &quot;Anybody&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:100620061108424541%<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com..." target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com...</a>
&gt; &gt; In article &lt;8miig.42755$<a href="mailto:fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; &gt; &quot;Crimson*&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:user&#64;isp.com" target="_blank">user&#64;isp.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
&gt; &gt;&gt; deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
&gt; &gt;&gt; dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi.
&gt; &gt;&gt; Plus
&gt; &gt;&gt; it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
&gt; &gt;&gt; battle.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; It really depends what you mean by &quot;dramatic&quot;.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Yoda and Obi-Wan's deaths were the most drama-ridden, Qui-Gon's death
&gt; &gt; was probably the most energetic while the cut-scene of Shaak Ti's death
&gt; &gt; might have been the most emotional.
&gt;
&gt; The most 'dramatic' death to me is the most regrettable death.
&gt;
&gt; I didn't have big regrets for Shaak Ti. She never knew what hit her.

Originally Shaak Ti was going to be captured and killed by Grievous
directly in front of Obi-Wan and Anakin during the rescue of Palpatine,
but that scene was dropped. If it had been left in that way then you
might have a different &quot;favourite&quot;. :-)



&gt; I had bigger regrets for Ki Adi Mundi. To see the most noble and honorable
&gt; member of the Jedi council gunned down was truly tragic.
&gt;
&gt; Obi-Wan's death in ANH was tragic much for the same reason, but maybe less
&gt; so because Obi-Wan chose to die. Maybe 'shocking' would be a better word to
&gt; desribe Obi-Wan's death.

Or even &quot;noble&quot; and &quot;unselfish&quot;. :-)

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#5: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 03:06:00 by Todd

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:08:42 +1200, Anybody
&lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;In article &lt;8miig.42755$<a href="mailto:fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net</a>&gt;,
&gt;&quot;Crimson*&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:user&#64;isp.com" target="_blank">user&#64;isp.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
&gt;&gt; deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
&gt;&gt; dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi. Plus
&gt;&gt; it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
&gt;&gt; battle.
&gt;
&gt;It really depends what you mean by &quot;dramatic&quot;.
&gt;
&gt;Yoda and Obi-Wan's deaths were the most drama-ridden, Qui-Gon's death
&gt;was probably the most energetic while the cut-scene of Shaak Ti's death
&gt;might have been the most emotional.


There's nothing &quot;drama ridden&quot; about death from old age. Qui-Gon's
death was very dramatic as one kept hoping that he might pull it off
even though he was getting weary. There was great tension in that
scene. You knew the end was coming but hoped he might make it.

As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
leading up to the events of RotS.

Todd

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#6: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 03:07:38 by Todd

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:56:02 GMT, &quot;Christopher M.&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:nospamcm_anon76&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">nospamcm_anon76&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;&quot;Anybody&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;news:100620061108424541%<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com..." target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com...</a>
&gt;&gt; In article &lt;8miig.42755$<a href="mailto:fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net</a>&gt;,
&gt;&gt; &quot;Crimson*&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:user&#64;isp.com" target="_blank">user&#64;isp.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
&gt;&gt;&gt; deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
&gt;&gt;&gt; dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi.
&gt;&gt;&gt; Plus
&gt;&gt;&gt; it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
&gt;&gt;&gt; battle.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; It really depends what you mean by &quot;dramatic&quot;.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yoda and Obi-Wan's deaths were the most drama-ridden, Qui-Gon's death
&gt;&gt; was probably the most energetic while the cut-scene of Shaak Ti's death
&gt;&gt; might have been the most emotional.
&gt;
&gt;The most 'dramatic' death to me is the most regrettable death.
&gt;
&gt;I didn't have big regrets for Shaak Ti. She never knew what hit her.
&gt;
&gt;I had bigger regrets for Ki Adi Mundi. To see the most noble and honorable
&gt;member of the Jedi council gunned down was truly tragic.
&gt;
&gt;Obi-Wan's death in ANH was tragic much for the same reason, but maybe less
&gt;so because Obi-Wan chose to die. Maybe 'shocking' would be a better word to
&gt;desribe Obi-Wan's death.
&gt;
&gt;Qui-Gon was not as skilled or as intelligent as Obi-Wan and Ki Adi Mundi.
&gt;His death seemed less tragic, and more the result of flawed thinking.
&gt;

He was just softening up Maul so Obi-Wan could have an easier time
with him. :-)

Todd

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#7: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 03:41:38 by Anybody

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:of6k8258rgto6qt7bvlenpl703a0m224gn&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">of6k8258rgto6qt7bvlenpl703a0m224gn&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;, Todd
&lt;<a href="mailto:twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net" target="_blank">twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:08:42 +1200, Anybody
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;In article &lt;8miig.42755$<a href="mailto:fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">fb2.3424&#64;newssvr27.news.prodigy.net</a>&gt;,
&gt; &gt;&quot;Crimson*&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:user&#64;isp.com" target="_blank">user&#64;isp.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
&gt; &gt;&gt; deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
&gt; &gt;&gt; dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi.
&gt; &gt;&gt; Plus
&gt; &gt;&gt; it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
&gt; &gt;&gt; battle.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;It really depends what you mean by &quot;dramatic&quot;.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Yoda and Obi-Wan's deaths were the most drama-ridden, Qui-Gon's death
&gt; &gt;was probably the most energetic while the cut-scene of Shaak Ti's death
&gt; &gt;might have been the most emotional.
&gt;
&gt; There's nothing &quot;drama ridden&quot; about death from old age.

Drama: situation that is highly emotional, turbulent,
or tragic

Dramatic: striking or effective

How / why Yoda died is irrelevant. Yoda's death WAS highly emotional,
therefore it WAS dramatic and &quot;drama-ridden&quot;.



&gt; As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
&gt; invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
&gt; prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
&gt; however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
&gt; leading up to the events of RotS.

In the RotS movie she was also going to be killed in a more dramatic
scene, but as I said (twice) the scene was cut otherwise it MIGHT have
been the most emotional / dramatic of all.

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#8: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 08:35:05 by nospamcm_anon76

&quot;Anybody&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:100620061238400276%<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com..." target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com...</a>
&gt;
&gt; Originally Shaak Ti was going to be captured and killed by Grievous
&gt; directly in front of Obi-Wan and Anakin during the rescue of Palpatine,
&gt; but that scene was dropped. If it had been left in that way then you
&gt; might have a different &quot;favourite&quot;. :-)

I'm a little confused. I was thinking of the female jedi who was killed on
the weird planet.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

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#9: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 09:23:16 by Anybody

In article &lt;tKtig.820$<a href="mailto:ZB3.762&#64;trndny05" target="_blank">ZB3.762&#64;trndny05</a>&gt;, &quot;Christopher M.&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:nospamcm_anon76&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">nospamcm_anon76&#64;hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; &quot;Anybody&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:100620061238400276%<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com..." target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com...</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Originally Shaak Ti was going to be captured and killed by Grievous
&gt; &gt; directly in front of Obi-Wan and Anakin during the rescue of Palpatine,
&gt; &gt; but that scene was dropped. If it had been left in that way then you
&gt; &gt; might have a different &quot;favourite&quot;. :-)
&gt;
&gt; I'm a little confused. I was thinking of the female jedi who was killed on
&gt; the weird planet.

That &quot;weird planet&quot; female Jedi was Aayla Secura:
<a href="http://www.starwars.jp/character/image/aayla_secura.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.starwars.jp/character/image/aayla_secura.jpg</a>


This one is Shaak Ti:
<a href="http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif" target="_blank">http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif</a>
She actually had two death scenes that were cut - the one where she
gets killed by Grievous during Palpatine's rescue and another one where
Anakin kills her in the Jedi Temple.

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#10: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-10 19:08:11 by Todd

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:41:38 +1200, Anybody
&lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:


&gt;
&gt; Drama: situation that is highly emotional, turbulent,
&gt; or tragic
&gt;
&gt; Dramatic: striking or effective
&gt;
&gt;How / why Yoda died is irrelevant. Yoda's death WAS highly emotional,
&gt;therefore it WAS dramatic and &quot;drama-ridden&quot;.
&gt;

I know what drama means. I have a master's in English. Your
progression is inaccurate. Your use of the term &quot;drama ridden&quot;
suggested that there was an element of high or excessive drama about
it, much the way a young schoolboy's hair might be &quot;lice ridden.&quot; A
&quot;drama ridden&quot; scene would be, for example, would be the climactic one
featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan in which Obi-Wan says, &quot;You were supposed
to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!&quot; That's a
drama ridden scene since so much occurred just prior to that (it's one
long scene, actually). It doesn't follow that, because there's drama
involved, which can be said about almost any scene in SW, that it's
&quot;drama ridden.&quot; Dramatic doesn't imply &quot;drama ridden.&quot; The manner of
Yoda's death is quite relevant when seen in this light.

&gt;
&gt;&gt; As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
&gt;&gt; invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
&gt;&gt; prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
&gt;&gt; however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
&gt;&gt; leading up to the events of RotS.
&gt;
&gt;In the RotS movie she was also going to be killed in a more dramatic
&gt;scene, but as I said (twice) the scene was cut otherwise it MIGHT have
&gt;been the most emotional / dramatic of all.

Yes, I've noticed that you often like to refer to things that aren't
there.

Todd

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#11: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-11 01:15:36 by Anybody

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;, Todd
&lt;<a href="mailto:twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net" target="_blank">twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:41:38 +1200, Anybody
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Drama: situation that is highly emotional, turbulent,
&gt; &gt; or tragic
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Dramatic: striking or effective
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;How / why Yoda died is irrelevant. Yoda's death WAS highly emotional,
&gt; &gt;therefore it WAS dramatic and &quot;drama-ridden&quot;.
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; I know what drama means. I have a master's in English. Your
&gt; progression is inaccurate. Your use of the term &quot;drama ridden&quot;
&gt; suggested that there was an element of high or excessive drama about
&gt; it, much the way a young schoolboy's hair might be &quot;lice ridden.&quot; A
&gt; &quot;drama ridden&quot; scene would be, for example, would be the climactic one
&gt; featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan in which Obi-Wan says, &quot;You were supposed
&gt; to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!&quot; That's a
&gt; drama ridden scene since so much occurred just prior to that (it's one
&gt; long scene, actually). It doesn't follow that, because there's drama
&gt; involved, which can be said about almost any scene in SW, that it's
&gt; &quot;drama ridden.&quot; Dramatic doesn't imply &quot;drama ridden.&quot; The manner of
&gt; Yoda's death is quite relevant when seen in this light.
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
&gt; &gt;&gt; invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
&gt; &gt;&gt; prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
&gt; &gt;&gt; however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
&gt; &gt;&gt; leading up to the events of RotS.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;In the RotS movie she was also going to be killed in a more dramatic
&gt; &gt;scene, but as I said (twice) the scene was cut otherwise it MIGHT have
&gt; &gt;been the most emotional / dramatic of all.
&gt;
&gt; Yes, I've noticed that you often like to refer to things that aren't
&gt; there.

Another pedantic idiot added to killfile ... thank God.

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#12: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-11 02:39:17 by Darth Mura

Anybody wrote:
&gt; In article &lt;<a href="mailto:dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;, Todd
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net" target="_blank">twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:41:38 +1200, Anybody
&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Drama: situation that is highly emotional, turbulent,
&gt; &gt; &gt; or tragic
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Dramatic: striking or effective
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;How / why Yoda died is irrelevant. Yoda's death WAS highly emotional,
&gt; &gt; &gt;therefore it WAS dramatic and &quot;drama-ridden&quot;.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I know what drama means. I have a master's in English. Your
&gt; &gt; progression is inaccurate. Your use of the term &quot;drama ridden&quot;
&gt; &gt; suggested that there was an element of high or excessive drama about
&gt; &gt; it, much the way a young schoolboy's hair might be &quot;lice ridden.&quot; A
&gt; &gt; &quot;drama ridden&quot; scene would be, for example, would be the climactic one
&gt; &gt; featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan in which Obi-Wan says, &quot;You were supposed
&gt; &gt; to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!&quot; That's a
&gt; &gt; drama ridden scene since so much occurred just prior to that (it's one
&gt; &gt; long scene, actually). It doesn't follow that, because there's drama
&gt; &gt; involved, which can be said about almost any scene in SW, that it's
&gt; &gt; &quot;drama ridden.&quot; Dramatic doesn't imply &quot;drama ridden.&quot; The manner of
&gt; &gt; Yoda's death is quite relevant when seen in this light.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; leading up to the events of RotS.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;In the RotS movie she was also going to be killed in a more dramatic
&gt; &gt; &gt;scene, but as I said (twice) the scene was cut otherwise it MIGHT have
&gt; &gt; &gt;been the most emotional / dramatic of all.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Yes, I've noticed that you often like to refer to things that aren't
&gt; &gt; there.
&gt;
&gt; Another pedantic idiot added to killfile ... thank God.

Pay attenton, lovers of irony.

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#13: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-11 03:20:11 by Todd

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:15:36 +1200, Anybody
&lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;In article &lt;<a href="mailto:dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;, Todd
&gt;&lt;<a href="mailto:twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net" target="_blank">twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:41:38 +1200, Anybody
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Drama: situation that is highly emotional, turbulent,
&gt;&gt; &gt; or tragic
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt; Dramatic: striking or effective
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;How / why Yoda died is irrelevant. Yoda's death WAS highly emotional,
&gt;&gt; &gt;therefore it WAS dramatic and &quot;drama-ridden&quot;.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I know what drama means. I have a master's in English. Your
&gt;&gt; progression is inaccurate. Your use of the term &quot;drama ridden&quot;
&gt;&gt; suggested that there was an element of high or excessive drama about
&gt;&gt; it, much the way a young schoolboy's hair might be &quot;lice ridden.&quot; A
&gt;&gt; &quot;drama ridden&quot; scene would be, for example, would be the climactic one
&gt;&gt; featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan in which Obi-Wan says, &quot;You were supposed
&gt;&gt; to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!&quot; That's a
&gt;&gt; drama ridden scene since so much occurred just prior to that (it's one
&gt;&gt; long scene, actually). It doesn't follow that, because there's drama
&gt;&gt; involved, which can be said about almost any scene in SW, that it's
&gt;&gt; &quot;drama ridden.&quot; Dramatic doesn't imply &quot;drama ridden.&quot; The manner of
&gt;&gt; Yoda's death is quite relevant when seen in this light.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; leading up to the events of RotS.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;In the RotS movie she was also going to be killed in a more dramatic
&gt;&gt; &gt;scene, but as I said (twice) the scene was cut otherwise it MIGHT have
&gt;&gt; &gt;been the most emotional / dramatic of all.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Yes, I've noticed that you often like to refer to things that aren't
&gt;&gt; there.
&gt;
&gt;Another pedantic idiot added to killfile ... thank God.


You said you were doing that last time. You can't killfile someone
and still be responding to their posts. Make up your mind already.

Todd

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#14: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-11 21:50:19 by JGordon452

Todd wrote:
&gt; On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:15:36 +1200, Anybody
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt;In article &lt;<a href="mailto:dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;, Todd
&gt; &gt;&lt;<a href="mailto:twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net" target="_blank">twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:41:38 +1200, Anybody
&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Drama: situation that is highly emotional, turbulent,
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; or tragic
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Dramatic: striking or effective
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;How / why Yoda died is irrelevant. Yoda's death WAS highly emotional,
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;therefore it WAS dramatic and &quot;drama-ridden&quot;.
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I know what drama means. I have a master's in English. Your
&gt; &gt;&gt; progression is inaccurate. Your use of the term &quot;drama ridden&quot;
&gt; &gt;&gt; suggested that there was an element of high or excessive drama about
&gt; &gt;&gt; it, much the way a young schoolboy's hair might be &quot;lice ridden.&quot; A
&gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;drama ridden&quot; scene would be, for example, would be the climactic one
&gt; &gt;&gt; featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan in which Obi-Wan says, &quot;You were supposed
&gt; &gt;&gt; to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!&quot; That's a
&gt; &gt;&gt; drama ridden scene since so much occurred just prior to that (it's one
&gt; &gt;&gt; long scene, actually). It doesn't follow that, because there's drama
&gt; &gt;&gt; involved, which can be said about almost any scene in SW, that it's
&gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;drama ridden.&quot; Dramatic doesn't imply &quot;drama ridden.&quot; The manner of
&gt; &gt;&gt; Yoda's death is quite relevant when seen in this light.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; leading up to the events of RotS.
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;In the RotS movie she was also going to be killed in a more dramatic
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;scene, but as I said (twice) the scene was cut otherwise it MIGHT have
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;been the most emotional / dramatic of all.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Yes, I've noticed that you often like to refer to things that aren't
&gt; &gt;&gt; there.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Another pedantic idiot added to killfile ... thank God.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; You said you were doing that last time. You can't killfile someone
&gt; and still be responding to their posts. Make up your mind already.
&gt;
&gt; Todd

I guess you could say that Anybody's loudly proclaiming that he was
killfiling someone _again_ was drama-ridden, right? Of course, Anybody
is quite the drama queen- accusing all others of being dumber than him,
and acting all righteous and injured when called out for being a prick.
I suppose it's a defense mechanism on his part: he feels insecure in
his intelligence, so he has to proclaim everyone else an idiot. Then,
when it looks like he's going to lose an argument AGAIN, he proudly
proclaims &quot;To the killfile with you, sir!&quot;.

He may be slightly mentally unbalanced, eh? Or maybe just really
arrogant and dumb at the same time..........

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#15: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-11 22:02:22 by JGordon452

Crimson* wrote:
&gt; There seems to be so much focus on Kit Fisto and company's uninspired
&gt; deaths, that I got to thinking: Out of the Jedi, whose death was the most
&gt; dramatic? Personally I'd say Ki Adi Mundi, but he's my favorite Jedi. Plus
&gt; it was heartwrenching to see him betrayed like that during the middle of
&gt; battle.

The whole Order 66 sequence was pretty epic and dramatic, so it was
sort of hard to separate them out from each other. I wish they had
extended it a little bit with some more, to show the extent of the
Clone Wars, AND the scope of Order 66. I do see how Lucas didn't want
to disrupt the pacing by dragging it on, though- very nice series of
beats ending with the battle on Kashyykk.

That was one of the cool things about ROTS- the movie's pacing was
pretty good. You start off with a sequence that could have been the
climactic battle at the close of another movie- get things going with a
bang. Then slow it down a bit, and start building suspense through
atmospherics, sound and lighting (such as those scenes at the Jedi
Temple, and the departure for Kashyykk early on). Set things back on
course with a buildup in action on Utapau and Kashyykk. The weakest
part may have actually been the scene with Anakin sitting in the
council chamber- it felt a little too protracted. Then the movie
freefalls into a total nighmarish &quot;Twilight of the Gods&quot; scenario, in
which the worst does happen, all previous assumptions are turned on
their head (maybe not to the Star Wars fan who already knows what has
to happen, but for the characters themselves), and the shroud of
darkness falls.

Lucas may have botched things up before in the series with Jar Jar,
Jake Lloyd, and bad dialogue/acting, but despite a couple of plot holes
of sorts, ROTS delivers the goods in pretty good style.

Word.

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#16: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-06-12 00:51:37 by Todd

On 11 Jun 2006 12:50:19 -0700, &quot;Nick Soapdish, Jr.&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:JGordon452&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">JGordon452&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt;Todd wrote:
&gt;&gt; On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:15:36 +1200, Anybody
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;In article &lt;<a href="mailto:dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com" target="_blank">dful8294vnn9i4to6luac74aeivhbcghme&#64;4ax.com</a>&gt;, Todd
&gt;&gt; &gt;&lt;<a href="mailto:twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net" target="_blank">twrexxnospam&#64;earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:41:38 +1200, Anybody
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com" target="_blank">anybody&#64;anywhere-anytime.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Drama: situation that is highly emotional, turbulent,
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; or tragic
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Dramatic: striking or effective
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;How / why Yoda died is irrelevant. Yoda's death WAS highly emotional,
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;therefore it WAS dramatic and &quot;drama-ridden&quot;.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I know what drama means. I have a master's in English. Your
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; progression is inaccurate. Your use of the term &quot;drama ridden&quot;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; suggested that there was an element of high or excessive drama about
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; it, much the way a young schoolboy's hair might be &quot;lice ridden.&quot; A
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;drama ridden&quot; scene would be, for example, would be the climactic one
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan in which Obi-Wan says, &quot;You were supposed
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!&quot; That's a
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; drama ridden scene since so much occurred just prior to that (it's one
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; long scene, actually). It doesn't follow that, because there's drama
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; involved, which can be said about almost any scene in SW, that it's
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;drama ridden.&quot; Dramatic doesn't imply &quot;drama ridden.&quot; The manner of
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Yoda's death is quite relevant when seen in this light.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; As for Shaak Ti, her death is only emotional if you're emotionally
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; invested in the character. Since we saw almost nothing of her in the
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; prequels, it's hard to consider her more than an extra. In the novel,
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; however, it's a different story. She has a much more prominent role
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; leading up to the events of RotS.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;In the RotS movie she was also going to be killed in a more dramatic
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;scene, but as I said (twice) the scene was cut otherwise it MIGHT have
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;been the most emotional / dramatic of all.
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Yes, I've noticed that you often like to refer to things that aren't
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; there.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;Another pedantic idiot added to killfile ... thank God.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; You said you were doing that last time. You can't killfile someone
&gt;&gt; and still be responding to their posts. Make up your mind already.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Todd
&gt;
&gt;I guess you could say that Anybody's loudly proclaiming that he was
&gt;killfiling someone _again_ was drama-ridden, right? Of course, Anybody
&gt;is quite the drama queen- accusing all others of being dumber than him,
&gt;and acting all righteous and injured when called out for being a prick.
&gt; I suppose it's a defense mechanism on his part: he feels insecure in
&gt;his intelligence, so he has to proclaim everyone else an idiot. Then,
&gt;when it looks like he's going to lose an argument AGAIN, he proudly
&gt;proclaims &quot;To the killfile with you, sir!&quot;.
&gt;
&gt;He may be slightly mentally unbalanced, eh? Or maybe just really
&gt;arrogant and dumb at the same time..........


Ah well, it takes all kinds on Usenet. I was just trying to argue my
point, not get into a namecalling match.

Todd

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#17: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-13 00:27:04 by Shhhh

&gt; This one is Shaak Ti:
&gt; <a href="http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif" target="_blank">http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif</a>
&gt; She actually had two death scenes that were cut - the one where she
&gt; gets killed by Grievous during Palpatine's rescue and another one where
&gt; Anakin kills her in the Jedi Temple.

I recall the section in the deleted scenes where they show Grievous Killing
her... however I do not recall seeing anything to the effect of Anakin
Killing her? could you please clarify where that was mentioned?


Thank you,
Shhhh

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#18: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-13 03:55:17 by DKM

&quot;Shhhh&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:123&#64;456.com" target="_blank">123&#64;456.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt; This one is Shaak Ti:
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif" target="_blank">http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif</a>
&gt;&gt; She actually had two death scenes that were cut - the one where she
&gt;&gt; gets killed by Grievous during Palpatine's rescue and another one where
&gt;&gt; Anakin kills her in the Jedi Temple.
&gt;
&gt; I recall the section in the deleted scenes where they show Grievous
&gt; Killing her... however I do not recall seeing anything to the effect of
&gt; Anakin Killing her? could you please clarify where that was mentioned?

They don't show it on the DVD, but the scene was filmed and they had a
picture in their Insider Magazine.

Basically Shaak Ti feeling a disturbance in the Force goes in to her private
chamber for deep meditation. When Anakin returns with the troops he enters
her chambers she asks what he wants and he kills her like the scene with
Grievous. Lucas decided the scene didn't work because she should have know
something was going on in the temple with all the shooting of the clone
troops.

DKM

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#19: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-13 08:37:18 by Anybody

In article &lt;9Khtg.171443$<a href="mailto:F_3.120178&#64;newssvr29.news.prodigy.net" target="_blank">F_3.120178&#64;newssvr29.news.prodigy.net</a>&gt;, &quot;DKM&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:dkmfwtx&#64;nospam.sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">dkmfwtx&#64;nospam.sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; &quot;Shhhh&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:123&#64;456.com" target="_blank">123&#64;456.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:<a href="mailto:yc2dnZI8ysGl6ijZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d&#64;comcast.com..." target="_blank">yc2dnZI8ysGl6ijZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d&#64;comcast.com...</a>
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; This one is Shaak Ti:
&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif" target="_blank">http://www.cswu.cz/characters/img/char/shaak_ti_3.gif</a>
&gt; &gt;&gt; She actually had two death scenes that were cut - the one where she
&gt; &gt;&gt; gets killed by Grievous during Palpatine's rescue and another one where
&gt; &gt;&gt; Anakin kills her in the Jedi Temple.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I recall the section in the deleted scenes where they show Grievous
&gt; &gt; Killing her... however I do not recall seeing anything to the effect of
&gt; &gt; Anakin Killing her? could you please clarify where that was mentioned?
&gt;
&gt; They don't show it on the DVD, but the scene was filmed and they had a
&gt; picture in their Insider Magazine.
&gt;
&gt; Basically Shaak Ti feeling a disturbance in the Force goes in to her private
&gt; chamber for deep meditation. When Anakin returns with the troops he enters
&gt; her chambers she asks what he wants and he kills her like the scene with
&gt; Grievous. Lucas decided the scene didn't work because she should have know
&gt; something was going on in the temple with all the shooting of the clone
&gt; troops.

Yep. Pictures and descriptions also appear in some of the 'behind the
scenes' books and various unofficial places all over the Internet.
I don't know if it's somewhere on the official StarWars.com or not.

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#20: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-13 09:22:21 by h

Anybody wrote:

&gt;&gt;They don't show it on the DVD, but the scene was filmed and they had a
&gt;&gt;picture in their Insider Magazine.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Basically Shaak Ti feeling a disturbance in the Force goes in to her private
&gt;&gt;chamber for deep meditation. When Anakin returns with the troops he enters
&gt;&gt;her chambers she asks what he wants and he kills her like the scene with
&gt;&gt;Grievous. Lucas decided the scene didn't work because she should have know
&gt;&gt;something was going on in the temple with all the shooting of the clone
&gt;&gt;troops.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Yep. Pictures and descriptions also appear in some of the 'behind the
&gt; scenes' books and various unofficial places all over the Internet.
&gt; I don't know if it's somewhere on the official StarWars.com or not.

So, is she dead by the end of ROTS or not?

H.

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#21: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-13 09:58:29 by Jodie MacPherson

&quot;H&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:H&#64;r.c" target="_blank">H&#64;r.c</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; So, is she dead by the end of ROTS or not?

Yes. She most certainly is.

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#22: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-13 11:05:43 by Darth Mura

Brett McConnie wrote:
&gt; &quot;H&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:H&#64;r.c" target="_blank">H&#64;r.c</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:Nwmtg.4132$<a href="mailto:tE5.775&#64;news-server.bigpond.net.au..." target="_blank">tE5.775&#64;news-server.bigpond.net.au...</a>
&gt; &gt; So, is she dead by the end of ROTS or not?
&gt;
&gt; Yes. She most certainly is.

Perhaps not.
<a href="http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=9601" target="_blank">http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=9601</a>

The databank lists her as presumed dead.
<a href="http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/" target="_blank">http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/</a>

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#23: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-13 12:03:53 by Helpful Harry

In article &lt;F2ntg.4152$<a href="mailto:tE5.2060&#64;news-server.bigpond.net.au" target="_blank">tE5.2060&#64;news-server.bigpond.net.au</a>&gt;, &quot;Brett
McConnie&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:macca29au&#64;bigpond.com" target="_blank">macca29au&#64;bigpond.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; &quot;H&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:H&#64;r.c" target="_blank">H&#64;r.c</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:Nwmtg.4132$<a href="mailto:tE5.775&#64;news-server.bigpond.net.au..." target="_blank">tE5.775&#64;news-server.bigpond.net.au...</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; So, is she dead by the end of ROTS or not?
&gt;
&gt; Yes. She most certainly is.

I think you're right, although I don't remember whether we see her
being killed by Clone Troopers on some planet or not - there were quite
a few Jedi killed in a few seconds during that sequence.

Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

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#24: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-16 02:11:52 by Jodie MacPherson

&quot;Helpful Harry&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:helpful_harry&#64;nom.de.plume.com" target="_blank">helpful_harry&#64;nom.de.plume.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; I think you're right, although I don't remember whether we see her
&gt; being killed by Clone Troopers on some planet or not - there were quite
&gt; a few Jedi killed in a few seconds during that sequence.

We didn't see her killed in the slaughter montage but Lucas filmed her being
killed twice so I think we can assume he wanted her dead but just didn't
have a way of working it into the plot. I can't say with 100% certainty that
she's dead but I think we can presume so.

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#25: Re: Jedi Deaths

Posted on 2006-07-16 03:08:27 by Darth Mura

Brett McConnie wrote:
&gt; &quot;Helpful Harry&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:helpful_harry&#64;nom.de.plume.com" target="_blank">helpful_harry&#64;nom.de.plume.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:130720062203537042%<a href="mailto:helpful_harry&#64;nom.de.plume.com..." target="_blank">helpful_harry&#64;nom.de.plume.com...</a>
&gt; &gt; I think you're right, although I don't remember whether we see her
&gt; &gt; being killed by Clone Troopers on some planet or not - there were quite
&gt; &gt; a few Jedi killed in a few seconds during that sequence.
&gt;
&gt; We didn't see her killed in the slaughter montage but Lucas filmed her being
&gt; killed twice so I think we can assume he wanted her dead but just didn't
&gt; have a way of working it into the plot. I can't say with 100% certainty that
&gt; she's dead but I think we can presume so.


Perhaps not.
<a href="http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=9601" target="_blank">http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=9601</a>

The databank lists her as presumed dead.
<a href="http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/" target="_blank">http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/</a>

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