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Science Fiction » alt.fan.douglas-adams » Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-)
Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #98658] Di, 02 August 2005 18:36
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
[SPOILER-laden - no spoiler space since the spoilers are several
paragraphs below anyway :-)]

So, now, as the battle between the pro-movie and anti-movie people has
finally died down, the movie hit Denmark, which is a signal for another
of those wars, I expect :-)

To my very great surprise, I must admit, I find myself among the
pro-movie people! Of course I don't think the movie was perfect, and I
had my fair share of lines I missed, but on the whole, I think the movie
was quite a well-made movie, and I feel sure it will bring a lot of new
fans on, who wants to read the book after the movie.

I have not been able to keep myself from swallowing every comment on the
movie, here and elsewhere, no matter how spoiler-laden they were, and
this may have helped me by adjusting my expectations and not get
disappointed. But all the same I found myself laughing a lot through the
movie - something I hadn't really expected, because I frankly assumed I
knew all the funny jokes, so I had expected to smile nostalgically a
lot, and I did much more than that.

Among the really funny things were the guide animations, and, to my
great surprise and also partly to my embarrasment, the slapstick comedy!
To my surprise, I actually felt it worked together with the much more
cunning and elaborate jokes of Douglas Adams' own material. To be
honest, there wasn't one new joke that was half as good as the jokes in
the previous incarnations. But somehow the small stupid jokes and the
slapstick comedy just kept you in the right happy smiling mood to
appreciate the Douglas Adamsiain humor - which I by the way felt there
was a lot more of than I had expected after reading some reviews.

Another thing that surprised me a lot, was that the love story plastered
on top of the well known story didn't seem to bother me as much as I had
expected. I think it may have helped that I just heard the Quandary
phase radio show and thus had the Fenchurch love scenes to compare it
with. That made the scenes seem not quite so Douglas Adams-opposed as I
might otherwise have felt.

Some of the ways well-known scenes were portraied quite fantastically
too! For instance, I simply _loved_ the Magrathean factory floor! That
was near perfect, and actually better than my imagination, which has
never quite been able to imagine what such a factory floor looked like!

Of course my feelings weren't all postive, although my overall feeling was.

Among the bad things were the single cut lines that were littered all
over the place. I think that making the movie 10 minutes later by adding
all those lines would have improved the movie incalculately. For those
who are now ready to slaughter me for wanting a verbatim translation of
the book to movie, please note that I am not asking for that! I'm only
asking for keeping all lines in the jokes that _were_ selected for
inclusions. I don't think any one scene was improved by cutting those
lines, and a few places there was only the build-up to a joke with the
punchline missing. The Deep Thought scene had to my great sadness been
reduced to nothing, and wasn't really funny. Timing seemed to be off,
and the absense of philosophers (which I missed a lot) before the
information that it would take 7½ million years completely erradicated
that joke. One joke I actually felt worked better with timing in the
movie, though, was Slartibartfast's name. Unfortunately, he didn't
really pull of the late-joke, though.

I have to agree with other critics that Zaphod has been changed for the
worse. He seems to be a self-contained character in the movie, and sort
of works, I just like the Zaphod of other versions better, that's all. I
also felt that Trillian's and Marvin's intelligence could have had a
little more airtime, it would have added a lot to their characters. But
I can't have everything, of course, and I realise that movie couldn't
have been much longer, and I can't really point to the thing that should
be cut.

I noticed a few plot-holes, which is a shame, but then the books/radio
show don't really have much of a plot either (for instance: why is it
Zaphod wants to find Magrathea in those versions? Is it really just for
the fame and the money? I know that it is somehow manipulated by Benjy
and Frankie, but unless I forget it isn't really explained how).

One thing that has been pointed out earlier is that there really isn't
much reason for Zaphod to steal the Heart of Gold - then again the
Zaphod in the movie doesn't really need much of a reason, he seems to be
the type to do it out of sheer bloody-mindedness. In the movie he is
apparently also dumb enough to think that he can get to Magrathea by
sheer trial-and-error, and what's more, Trillian isn't smart enough to
tell him that's impossible.

As most have said the Humma Kavula scenes are not the best of the movie,
but they aren't really terrible either. One thing that annoyed me,
though, was that Humma Kavulas followers didn't have one single native
inhabitant of Viltvodle VI, at least I counted only two arms on each of
them.

The major plothole, in my opinion, is that the Earth mk II was remade
with _everything just as it was_! Wouldn't that mean that the answer
would be output in a few minutes after all? Or is the point in the movie
that Arthur's brain simply _is_ the readout point? And that that's why
the Earth was rebuilt in the first place?

On a final note: The whole theater laughed a lot during the movie, and
there was even applause at the end. I clapped along feeling slightly
stupid because I never know exactly who is supposed to listen to my
applause - but then, media like what I'm writing now at least report
there was applause, and some of those reports probably reach the movie
makers, I assume.

I'm sure I have a lot more thought's on the movie, but they will
probably come during the war I have indubiously started :-)

Best
Kåre
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #98669 ] Mi, 03 August 2005 01:49
Steve Marshall  
"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote


> So, now, as the battle between the pro-movie and anti-movie people has
> finally died down, the movie hit Denmark, which is a signal for another
> of those wars, I expect :-)

> I'm sure I have a lot more thought's on the movie, but they will
> probably come during the war I have indubiously started :-)

I don't think war is necessary really. Why are you so sure there will be one
???

I'm interested in your views on the new material i.e. Arthur - Trillian.
Didn't you think the Vogons were over-used ? They could have cut a lot of
their stuff.

And what about the song ?

Steve M
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100829 ] Mi, 03 August 2005 12:11
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Steve Marshall wrote:
> "Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote
>
>
>
>>So, now, as the battle between the pro-movie and anti-movie people has
>>finally died down, the movie hit Denmark, which is a signal for another
>>of those wars, I expect :-)
>
>
>>I'm sure I have a lot more thought's on the movie, but they will
>>probably come during the war I have indubiously started :-)
>
>
> I don't think war is necessary really. Why are you so sure there will be one
> ???

I just assumed so after the last major threads on the movie. On the
other hand, it's just us regulars now, which will probably mean we can
pull it off with some healthy discussion :-)

> I'm interested in your views on the new material i.e. Arthur - Trillian.
> Didn't you think the Vogons were over-used ? They could have cut a lot of
> their stuff.

Hmm - well - yes. I think I agree, although I actually liked the
portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first try).
I liked the part where they needed the form for initating pursuit of a
space vessel that jumped into hyperspace without permission - and the
complete surprise that they jumped /without permission/!

But on the whole they weren't used so much I disliked it very much. The
movie lived up to the foreword from the hitchhiker's guide, the part
that goes:

"[...] in which some of the characters behaved in entirely different
ways and other behaved in exactly the same way for entirely different
reasons, which amount to the same thing but saves rewriting the dialogue."

I think the movie had the right amont of original material, and although
the new material could have been better, I think it pretty much worked.

> And what about the song ?

Well, where some like the song a lot, I didn't, at least not very much.
Not that I diliked it, it was just, well, it was just there. On the
other hand I have found my self humming the chorus, so it must have done
something for me :-)

Best
Kåre
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100841 ] Do, 04 August 2005 01:07
Steve Marshall  
"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote

> I think the movie had the right amont of original material, and although
> the new material could have been better, I think it pretty much worked.

I think it is really interesting (re)reading teh Kerry Kirkpatrick (sp?)
(self)interview after seeing the film. He went to great lengths to say how
he stuck stuff back in that Douglas had taken out - and then got forced to
remove some of it again.

For me they cut too much of the lines so it lost the comic timing. For
instance in the airlock when Ford does (or rather doesn't ) do the 'wait,
what's this switch?' bit. The humour just isn't quite there.
I didn't like the new material that came from Douglas that much. It would
have been a hard disicion to cut the new material when it hadn't seen the
light of day. Perhaps they felt obliged to air new DNA material. Some like
it, I guess, but for me it doesn't have the quirky wit and intelligence of
earlier the work which is what I liked about HHGG .

A couple of things helped keep HHGG in the public consciousness which helped
maintain it's cult status.
Towels and Vogon poetry. The stuff about towels was lost with the missing
guide entry and the Vogon poetry was a bit lost with other dialogue. I
didn't think it came across too well.

Oh, and the babel fish, of course. That too is one of the key elements which
again highlights Adam's quirky humourous wit. But they cut it.

I think it's a shame. They could have added stuff like this without the film
being too much longer. There were some scenes, like with Deep Thought which
could have been shortened a bit to make room if necessary. It wouldn't need
too much drastic alteration to make the film a lot more fun. It seemed more
of a concern to get the plot done than to make it a lot of fun.


> On the
> other hand I have found my self humming the chorus, so it must have done
> something for me :-)

Eek !

Steve M
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100848 ] Do, 04 August 2005 20:08
Neil Gerace  
"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
news:42efa11c$0$42286$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...

> The major plothole, in my opinion, is that the Earth mk II was remade with
> _everything just as it was_! Wouldn't that mean that the answer would be
> output in a few minutes after all?

I don't think so - because the cavemen are still all dead, wiped out by the
Golgafrichans and their descendants.

Or there would be a question output, but, again, destined to be the wrong
one. "What do you get if you multiply six by nine?" for example.





"You know what this means, don't you," said Ford.

"What?" said Arthur.

"Cock-up," said Ford.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100849 ] Do, 04 August 2005 20:12
Neil Gerace  
"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:42f14d43$0$3497$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> Oh, and the babel fish, of course. That too is one of the key elements
> which
> again highlights Adam's quirky humourous wit. But they cut it.
>
> I think it's a shame. They could have added stuff like this without the
> film
> being too much longer.

I don't think many scenes were cut just to make the movie a reasonable
length, but because if they'd been left in, many of the people who went
would be saying, "I don't get it" all the time.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100850 ] Do, 04 August 2005 02:43
Freakstone  
"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
news:42f09845$0$22508$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
<snip>
> portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first try).
<snip>

Yes, but can you finish the bloody game?

--
Fræk
There are 10 types of people in the world.
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100858 ] Do, 04 August 2005 22:20
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Freakstone wrote:
> "Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
> news:42f09845$0$22508$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
> <snip>
>
>>portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first try).
>
> <snip>
>
> Yes, but can you finish the bloody game?

Well, I admit I wasn't able to get my hands on an original, but my
friend has it for old-time macs...

Well, no, I haven't been able to finish it (see below) - although I
actually made it out of the original city (I forget which city you are
moving from) before I (gasp) submitted to my urge to cheat. I used the
UHS hints, though, not to spoil too much. Let me see if I can find them...

http://www.uhs-hints.com/uhsweb/bureaucr.php

Best
Kåre
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100859 ] Do, 04 August 2005 22:22
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Neil Gerace wrote:
> "Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
> news:42efa11c$0$42286$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
>
>
>>The major plothole, in my opinion, is that the Earth mk II was remade with
>>_everything just as it was_! Wouldn't that mean that the answer would be
>>output in a few minutes after all?
>
>
> I don't think so - because the cavemen are still all dead, wiped out by the
> Golgafrichans and their descendants.

Ah, well, yes, but that isn't apparent in this movie, is it? I mean, the
Golgafrinchams aren't introduced until much later. The mice should still
expect an output shortly...

Best
Kåre
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100862 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:34
spam05  
Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> [SPOILER-laden - no spoiler space since the spoilers are several
> paragraphs below anyway :-)]

I'll probably fill wnough in and not be able to snip enough, so I
won't put in extra spoiler space either :-)

> So, now, as the battle between the pro-movie and anti-movie people has
> finally died down, the movie hit Denmark, which is a signal for another
> of those wars, I expect :-)

> To my very great surprise, I must admit, I find myself among the
> pro-movie people! Of course I don't think the movie was perfect, and I
> had my fair share of lines I missed, but on the whole, I think the movie
> was quite a well-made movie, and I feel sure it will bring a lot of new
> fans on, who wants to read the book after the movie.

To my surprise I was pro too. I went to the cinema and expected to be
very disappointed and was actually rather fond of it when walking
out. I too have things I disliked but it can probably never be
otherwise when you love the books.

> Among the really funny things were the guide animations, and, to my
> great surprise and also partly to my embarrasment, the slapstick comedy!
> To my surprise, I actually felt it worked together with the much more
> cunning and elaborate jokes of Douglas Adams' own material. To be
> honest, there wasn't one new joke that was half as good as the jokes in
> the previous incarnations. But somehow the small stupid jokes and the
> slapstick comedy just kept you in the right happy smiling mood to
> appreciate the Douglas Adamsiain humor - which I by the way felt there
> was a lot more of than I had expected after reading some reviews.

The guide was well made, I agree. The old jokes were the best, though
some had been crippled more or less.

> Another thing that surprised me a lot, was that the love story plastered
> on top of the well known story didn't seem to bother me as much as I had
> expected. I think it may have helped that I just heard the Quandary
> phase radio show and thus had the Fenchurch love scenes to compare it
> with. That made the scenes seem not quite so Douglas Adams-opposed as I
> might otherwise have felt.

I think it was not dominant enough to disturb the story too much. It
did not really bother me so much, either. Somehow it just feels wrong
that it was not Fenchurc, but I am willing to let this rest and not
bother about it.

> Some of the ways well-known scenes were portraied quite fantastically
> too! For instance, I simply _loved_ the Magrathean factory floor! That
> was near perfect, and actually better than my imagination, which has
> never quite been able to imagine what such a factory floor looked like!

Ah yes, I liked that one too.

Another thing I liked was the teddy bear scene where Arthur ends up
with a piece of thread in the mouth. I laughed at that scene.

> punchline missing. The Deep Thought scene had to my great sadness been
> reduced to nothing, and wasn't really funny. Timing seemed to be off,
> and the absense of philosophers (which I missed a lot) before the
> information that it would take 7½ million years completely erradicated

I also missed the philosophers a lot. I think they're an integral part
of the joke and I did not find the scene near as amusing as it should
have been.

> that joke. One joke I actually felt worked better with timing in the
> movie, though, was Slartibartfast's name. Unfortunately, he didn't
> really pull of the late-joke, though.

Well, he did (or did I misunderstand/dream something), it was just too
much like a side remark than a joke. I almost missed it entirely...

Then again, I did not catch the joke before reading it three times,
so...

> I have to agree with other critics that Zaphod has been changed for the
> worse. He seems to be a self-contained character in the movie, and sort
> of works, I just like the Zaphod of other versions better, that's all. I

I think he had gotten far too silly rather than eccentric. Overplayed
perhaps. I did not like him.

> One thing that has been pointed out earlier is that there really isn't
> much reason for Zaphod to steal the Heart of Gold - then again the
> Zaphod in the movie doesn't really need much of a reason, he seems to be
> the type to do it out of sheer bloody-mindedness. In the movie he is
> apparently also dumb enough to think that he can get to Magrathea by
> sheer trial-and-error, and what's more, Trillian isn't smart enough to
> tell him that's impossible.

No, I noticed that too. He goes for the Ultimate Question for the
fame, but why at Magrathea? That isn't really explained...

> On a final note: The whole theater laughed a lot during the movie, and
> there was even applause at the end. I clapped along feeling slightly
> stupid because I never know exactly who is supposed to listen to my
> applause - but then, media like what I'm writing now at least report
> there was applause, and some of those reports probably reach the movie
> makers, I assume.

I hate that too. I usually clap a few times, notice that I am silly
and stop ;o)

I thing I really missed was the Prosser joke. It is simply not funny
to me that Ford deals out beer as opposed to a hilariously funny
joke. I found that a pity.

Oh, and the much-talked-about title music. It is fine to me, but
nothing spectacular.

I have a lot more comments I guess, I just can't come up with them
right now. They'll show up later ;o)

/Rasmus

(who has around 100 posts to catch up on due to being preoccupied with
IRL stuff. I must stop that!)

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100863 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:39
spam05  
"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> I don't think war is necessary really. Why are you so sure there will be one
> ???

I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle...

> Didn't you think the Vogons were over-used ? They could have cut a lot of

There were a little too many vogons. On the other hand they were made
well I think. I liked the gloomy spaceship and the beauracracy (is
that correct?).

/Rasmus

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He arrives precisely when he wants to
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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100864 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:41
spam05  
Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first try).

*envies Kåre*

/Rasmus

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100866 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:46
spam05  
"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> A couple of things helped keep HHGG in the public consciousness which helped
> maintain it's cult status.
> Towels and Vogon poetry. The stuff about towels was lost with the missing
> guide entry and the Vogon poetry was a bit lost with other dialogue. I
> didn't think it came across too well.

Yes there was simply not enough stuff about towels. Pity.

> I think it's a shame. They could have added stuff like this without the film
> being too much longer. There were some scenes, like with Deep Thought which
> could have been shortened a bit to make room if necessary. It wouldn't need
> too much drastic alteration to make the film a lot more fun. It seemed more
> of a concern to get the plot done than to make it a lot of fun.

It would have been fine with me if it was just half an hour longer. I
mean, why do films have to be two hours at max unless they are part of
a well established series? I think this one could have become a lot
better.

Oh, and I did not like Benjy and Frankie being killed; also they
seemed unnecessary rough to Arthur.

And the doors went "Hmmmm" instead of "Pleased to be of service" -
they sounded like they were depressed like Marvin...

/Rasmus

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100867 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:47
spam05  
"Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> "Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:42f14d43$0$3497$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>> Oh, and the babel fish, of course. That too is one of the key elements
>> which
>> again highlights Adam's quirky humourous wit. But they cut it.
>>
>> I think it's a shame. They could have added stuff like this without the
>> film
>> being too much longer.
>
> I don't think many scenes were cut just to make the movie a reasonable
> length, but because if they'd been left in, many of the people who went
> would be saying, "I don't get it" all the time.

I guess, you're right. Still I think some of the jokes got crippled
and were simply not funny anymore...

Well, at least I could finish the jokes in my head ;o)

/Rasmus

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otherwise. Yet they do. People think I'm a nice guy, and the fact is
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feelings or lost hours of work if it just results in what I consider
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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100868 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:53
spam05  
"Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> "Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
> news:42efa11c$0$42286$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
>
>> The major plothole, in my opinion, is that the Earth mk II was remade with
>> _everything just as it was_! Wouldn't that mean that the answer would be
>> output in a few minutes after all?
>
> I don't think so - because the cavemen are still all dead, wiped out by the
> Golgafrichans and their descendants.

Still I don't get why Benjy and Frankie says "That's a good
one. Actually we only want to be famous" and then *still* continues to
build Earth mk II. I mean, they build it to calculate the correct
answer but they are not interested in having the correct answer...

Perhaps I'm just confused by the difference from the book...

/Rasmus

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100869 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 00:57
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
> "Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> hit the keyboard.
> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>
>>"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
>>news:42f14d43$0$3497$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>>
>>>Oh, and the babel fish, of course. That too is one of the key elements
>>>which
>>>again highlights Adam's quirky humourous wit. But they cut it.
>>>
>>>I think it's a shame. They could have added stuff like this without the
>>>film
>>>being too much longer.
>>
>>I don't think many scenes were cut just to make the movie a reasonable
>>length, but because if they'd been left in, many of the people who went
>>would be saying, "I don't get it" all the time.
>
>
> I guess, you're right. Still I think some of the jokes got crippled
> and were simply not funny anymore...

I have a strong divide in my head between jokes that were cut
altogether, which I find okay, some cuts had to be made, and on the
whole it worked; and jokes where a few lines were cut, which I think was
the single best place to improve the movie increadibly without changing
anything of the new movies plotlines or overall feeling, or even length.

I would have liked to see quite a few of the cut lines returned to their
jokes. As for the jokes that were not elected for inclusion, well, of
course I missed some of them terribly, but I accept the choices.

> Well, at least I could finish the jokes in my head ;o)

There is that :-)

Thank you for finally doing something to make the thread live up to it's
name :-)

Best
Kåre
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100870 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 01:05
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
> Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>
>>portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first try).
>
>
> *envies Kåre*

Well, of course I spent a lot of time spell checking it afterwards,
since I really didn't trust my spelling :-)

Best
Kåre
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100871 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 01:12
spam05  
Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> I have a strong divide in my head between jokes that were cut
> altogether, which I find okay, some cuts had to be made, and on the

Yes. there is far too much material in the books to fit it into a
movie. I accept that some parts were cut and accept the choices.

>> Well, at least I could finish the jokes in my head ;o)
>
> There is that :-)

Also one could look them up in the books afterwards; I mean we cannot
all carry an index of afda in our heads like you ;o)

> Thank you for finally doing something to make the thread live up to it's
> name :-)

I have been peeking in the days following the film but have been too
preoccupied by this Real life thing. Now I just couldnøt resist
anymore ;o)

/Rasmus

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #100872 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 01:13
spam05  
Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>> Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
>> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>>
>>> portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first
>>> try).
>> *envies Kåre*
>
> Well, of course I spent a lot of time spell checking it afterwards,
> since I really didn't trust my spelling :-)

Funny thing is that spell checking on usenet is done *after* posting
and not before ;o)

At least that is what I do...

/Rasmus

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He arrives precisely when he wants to
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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103139 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 12:43
John Coxon  
On 04/08/2005 23:46, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Rasmus Bøg Hansen spewed up:

> And the doors went "Hmmmm" instead of "Pleased to be of service" -
> they sounded like they were depressed like Marvin...

To be fair, that happened in the radio series as well, so that's not really
a film problem.

--
John Coxon

"IRTA Penguins are cute and wonderful criminals" - Amro (afdaniain)

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103140 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 12:43
John Coxon  
On 04/08/2005 21:20, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Kaare Fiedler Christiansen spewed up:

> Freakstone wrote:
>
>> "Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
>> news:42f09845$0$22508$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
>> <snip>
>>
>>> portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first try).
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Yes, but can you finish the bloody game?
>
> Well, I admit I wasn't able to get my hands on an original, but my
> friend has it for old-time macs...
>
> Well, no, I haven't been able to finish it (see below) - although I
> actually made it out of the original city (I forget which city you are
> moving from) before I (gasp) submitted to my urge to cheat. I used the
> UHS hints, though, not to spoil too much. Let me see if I can find them...

Bureaucracy I had to cheat on.

This is coming from someone who completed the OoT Water Temple first try.

--
John Coxon

"IRTA Penguins are cute and wonderful criminals" - Amro (afdaniain)

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103142 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 18:38
Steve Marshall  
"Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> wrote

>
> I don't think many scenes were cut just to make the movie a reasonable
> length, but because if they'd been left in, many of the people who went
> would be saying, "I don't get it" all the time.

Well that just isn't the case according to the available info.

Some of the gags didn't work in their abreviated form IMHO so people still
didnt' get it.

Steve M
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103143 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 18:36
spam05  
John Coxon <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> On 04/08/2005 23:46, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
> unreason and Rasmus Bøg Hansen spewed up:
>
>> And the doors went "Hmmmm" instead of "Pleased to be of service" -
>> they sounded like they were depressed like Marvin...
>
> To be fair, that happened in the radio series as well, so that's not really
> a film problem.

Oh yes, they sounded depressed in the radio series; I am disappointed
that they did not say anything but "hmmmm" and therefore only sounded
depressed. I found the "Pleased to be of service" a lot better.

I guess that is rather much nitpicking ;o)

/Rasmus

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103144 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 18:38
spam05  
"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> "Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> wrote
>
>>
>> I don't think many scenes were cut just to make the movie a reasonable
>> length, but because if they'd been left in, many of the people who went
>> would be saying, "I don't get it" all the time.
>
> Well that just isn't the case according to the available info.

Agreed, some could be shortened down.

> Some of the gags didn't work in their abreviated form IMHO so people still
> didnt' get it.

Yes, I found some things rather crippled; they should have been left
out instead...

/Rasmus

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Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103149 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 21:38
afda  
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:34:16 +0200, spam05 [at] zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
wrote:

>Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
>Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>> To my very great surprise, I must admit, I find myself among the
>> pro-movie people! Of course I don't think the movie was perfect, and I
>> had my fair share of lines I missed, but on the whole, I think the movie
>> was quite a well-made movie, and I feel sure it will bring a lot of new
>> fans on, who wants to read the book after the movie.
>
>To my surprise I was pro too. I went to the cinema and expected to be
>very disappointed and was actually rather fond of it when walking
>out. I too have things I disliked but it can probably never be
>otherwise when you love the books.

To my addled mind, most of the film has actually passed from memory.
Or, rather, it had until this lunchtime when I found myself in a
Blockbuster video outlet. The Voice From The Ceiling was talking
about the various new fangled offers, rental schemes, current
releases, etc. and I was paying very little mind to it. Then TVFTC
mentioned something that sparked a flag of "hey, listen to the voice"
interest in some backwater of my brain. Seems that The Movie is coming
out on September 5th (in the UK) for DVD rental and purchase. Or at
least, I *think* that's what was the gist of what TVFTC was saying.

That's just over a month. I'll be placing my order this weekend, I
reckon.

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103150 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 21:38
afda  
[Semi-piggy-backing. I've not got Kaare's post [yet]]

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 11:43:57 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 04/08/2005 21:20, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>unreason and Kaare Fiedler Christiansen spewed up:
>
>> Freakstone wrote:
>>
>>> "Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
>>> news:42f09845$0$22508$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first try).
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Yes, but can you finish the bloody game?
>>
>> Well, I admit I wasn't able to get my hands on an original, but my
>> friend has it for old-time macs...

I've never seen it at all. Though I think I might've seen a picture
of the box, possibly.

>> Well, no, I haven't been able to finish it (see below) - although I
>> actually made it out of the original city (I forget which city you are
>> moving from) before I (gasp) submitted to my urge to cheat. I used the
>> UHS hints, though, not to spoil too much. Let me see if I can find them...
>
>Bureaucracy I had to cheat on.

Talking of which I've never even managed to oomph enough round tuits
to get your walk-through for the Hitchhiker's game. Actually, I'm not
even sure I've got sufficient capability currently on this machine to
run the game.

>This is coming from someone who completed the OoT Water Temple first try.

[*][3]

Lloyd

[3] The star footnote thingy is a 'request for further information'
type footnote. A kind of "please put a footnote explaining this"
indicator. If you see what I mean.
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103151 ] Fr, 05 August 2005 21:38
afda  
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:46:15 +0200, spam05 [at] zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
wrote:

>"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> hit the keyboard.
>Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>> A couple of things helped keep HHGG in the public consciousness which helped
>> maintain it's cult status.
>> Towels and Vogon poetry. The stuff about towels was lost with the missing
>> guide entry and the Vogon poetry was a bit lost with other dialogue. I
>> didn't think it came across too well.
>
>Yes there was simply not enough stuff about towels. Pity.

Is there actually *that* much to do with towels in other instances of
the story?

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103153 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 00:20
Dave Adalian  
"Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:lse7f1lmpflgogd6rn6k4bngv593f12dq2 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:46:15 +0200, spam05 [at] zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
> wrote:
>
>>"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> hit the keyboard.
>>Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>>
>>> A couple of things helped keep HHGG in the public consciousness which
>>> helped
>>> maintain it's cult status.
>>> Towels and Vogon poetry. The stuff about towels was lost with the
>>> missing
>>> guide entry and the Vogon poetry was a bit lost with other dialogue. I
>>> didn't think it came across too well.
>>
>>Yes there was simply not enough stuff about towels. Pity.
>
> Is there actually *that* much to do with towels in other instances of
> the story?
>

It's not that there's that much more about towels; the movie omitted the
Guide entry on towels and failed to meaningfully explain their significance
in some other way. They didn't bother to tell the audience that towels are
the second most useful thing in the galaxy and why--when you get to this
point in the radio program or the book you find yourself thinking not only
is DNA incredibly funny, he's also right.

Chiggy.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103154 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 00:26
Dave Adalian  
"Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:taf7f115clg5vuqttb4cvle9v4f20qvdkd [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:34:16 +0200, spam05 [at] zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
> wrote:
>
>>Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
>>Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>>
>>> To my very great surprise, I must admit, I find myself among the
>>> pro-movie people! Of course I don't think the movie was perfect, and I
>>> had my fair share of lines I missed, but on the whole, I think the movie
>>> was quite a well-made movie, and I feel sure it will bring a lot of new
>>> fans on, who wants to read the book after the movie.
>>
>>To my surprise I was pro too. I went to the cinema and expected to be
>>very disappointed and was actually rather fond of it when walking
>>out. I too have things I disliked but it can probably never be
>>otherwise when you love the books.
>
> To my addled mind, most of the film has actually passed from memory.
> Or, rather, it had until this lunchtime when I found myself in a
> Blockbuster video outlet. The Voice From The Ceiling was talking
> about the various new fangled offers, rental schemes, current
> releases, etc. and I was paying very little mind to it. Then TVFTC
> mentioned something that sparked a flag of "hey, listen to the voice"
> interest in some backwater of my brain. Seems that The Movie is coming
> out on September 5th (in the UK) for DVD rental and purchase. Or at
> least, I *think* that's what was the gist of what TVFTC was saying.
>
> That's just over a month. I'll be placing my order this weekend, I
> reckon.
>

I just did a bit of poking around and it looks like Sept. 13 for the DVD
release in North America.

Chiggy.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103159 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 03:04
Steve Marshall  
"Rasmus Bøg Hansen" <spam05 [at] zz9.dk> wrote

>
> Agreed, some could be shortened down.

Huh? I didn't say they should be shortened.

> Yes, I found some things rather crippled; they should have been left
> out instead...

No, they didn't work because the line was shortened and the meaning gets
lost a bit if you do that sort of thing. These lines need proper delivery.
If you cut bits and try and paraphrase it, it doesn't sound right.

Steve M
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103160 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 09:00
Neil Gerace  
"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:42f3950f$0$3501$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>
> "Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> wrote
>
>>
>> I don't think many scenes were cut just to make the movie a reasonable
>> length, but because if they'd been left in, many of the people who went
>> would be saying, "I don't get it" all the time.
>
> Well that just isn't the case according to the available info.
>
> Some of the gags didn't work in their abreviated form IMHO so people still
> didnt' get it.

Most people who saw the movie and don't know what makes British people
laugh, would not understand the movie if all the humour from the book had
been left in.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103164 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 15:45
Steve Marshall  
"Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> wrote

> Most people who saw the movie and don't know what makes British people
> laugh, would not understand the movie if all the humour from the book had
> been left in.

I don't think that is true. People liked the radio and book forms. And of
the bits that were left intact, like the guide entries that were there,
people laughed and enjoyed it.

Douglas Adams also once commented that in America people 'got it'. You
didn't need to alter the humour for them. They didn't like swear words but
the rest was OK.


Steve M
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103165 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 16:04
pippa.moran  
Dave Adalian said...

> "Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:lse7f1lmpflgogd6rn6k4bngv593f12dq2 [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:46:15 +0200, spam05 [at] zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes there was simply not enough stuff about towels. Pity.
>>
>> Is there actually *that* much to do with towels in other instances of
>> the story?
>>
>
> It's not that there's that much more about towels; the movie omitted
> the Guide entry on towels and failed to meaningfully explain their
> significance in some other way.

Mind you, the telly series had exactly the same problem. Ford makes a
big deal of giving Arthur a towel in the Vogon hold, but it was never
explained why.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103169 ] Sa, 06 August 2005 19:19
afda  
On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 15:04:55 +0100, <pippa.moran [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>Dave Adalian said...
>
>> "Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:lse7f1lmpflgogd6rn6k4bngv593f12dq2 [at] 4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:46:15 +0200, spam05 [at] zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes there was simply not enough stuff about towels. Pity.
>>>
>>> Is there actually *that* much to do with towels in other instances of
>>> the story?
>>>
>>
>> It's not that there's that much more about towels; the movie omitted
>> the Guide entry on towels and failed to meaningfully explain their
>> significance in some other way.
>
>Mind you, the telly series had exactly the same problem. Ford makes a
>big deal of giving Arthur a towel in the Vogon hold, but it was never
>explained why.

I like that bit in the telly series. I like the order of importance
in:
"Look, there's all sorts of people trying to do you, kill you,
rip you off..."

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103172 ] So, 07 August 2005 13:49
Freakstone  
"Rasmus "Bøg" Hansen" <spam05 [at] zz9.dk> wrote in message
news:87oe8cuyqi.fsf [at] grignard.amagerkollegiet.dk...
>>> And the doors went "Hmmmm" instead of "Pleased to be of service" -
>>> they sounded like they were depressed like Marvin...
>> To be fair, that happened in the radio series as well, so that's not
>> really
>> a film problem.
> Oh yes, they sounded depressed in the radio series; I am disappointed
> that they did not say anything but "hmmmm" and therefore only sounded
> depressed. I found the "Pleased to be of service" a lot better.
> I guess that is rather much nitpicking ;o)

No, this is just a niggle. What MJS did in his review was nitpicking.

Not that I didn't agree with pretty much all of it, though, I'm sorry to
say.

--
Fræk :-)
"When I see someone use a smiley, in any context at all, I know that they're
an idiot."
MJ Simpson
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103173 ] So, 07 August 2005 13:55
Freakstone  
"Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:sve7f11qd9vs8su3ed54nu1cblc62d7b04 [at] 4ax.com...
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first
>>>>> try).
>>>> <snip>
>>>> Yes, but can you finish the bloody game?
>>> Well, I admit I wasn't able to get my hands on an original, but my
>>> friend has it for old-time macs...
> I've never seen it at all. Though I think I might've seen a picture
> of the box, possibly.

It's vicious, fiendishly difficult and, it seems, cannot be completed
without cheating. I know I didn't manage it.

>>> Well, no, I haven't been able to finish it (see below) - although I
>>> actually made it out of the original city (I forget which city you are
>>> moving from) before I (gasp) submitted to my urge to cheat. I used the
>>> UHS hints, though, not to spoil too much. Let me see if I can find
>>> them...
>>Bureaucracy I had to cheat on.
> Talking of which I've never even managed to oomph enough round tuits
> to get your walk-through for the Hitchhiker's game. Actually, I'm not
> even sure I've got sufficient capability currently on this machine to
> run the game.

Get the DOS based version with an infocom interpreter, that's what I did,
apart from when I first played it which was on my Amiga.

I have it, if you want it, and it's tiny and e-mailable. :)

And you shouldn't need to use a walkthrough on it either.

--
Fræk
There are 10 types of people in the world.
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103174 ] So, 07 August 2005 13:57
Freakstone  
"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:42f40b9a$0$24014$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> Yes, I found some things rather crippled; they should have been left
>> out instead...
> No, they didn't work because the line was shortened and the meaning gets
> lost a bit if you do that sort of thing. These lines need proper delivery.
> If you cut bits and try and paraphrase it, it doesn't sound right.

"Ix - er, I mean Ford."

What was the point ... really?

Oh, and ... "Hello ground."

Why?

--
Fræk
There are 10 types of people in the world.
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103175 ] So, 07 August 2005 14:00
Freakstone  
"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:42f4bdd3$0$91507$ed2e19e4 [at] ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> Most people who saw the movie and don't know what makes British people
>> laugh, would not understand the movie if all the humour from the book had
>> been left in.
> I don't think that is true. People liked the radio and book forms. And of
> the bits that were left intact, like the guide entries that were there,
> people laughed and enjoyed it.
> Douglas Adams also once commented that in America people 'got it'. You
> didn't need to alter the humour for them. They didn't like swear words but
> the rest was OK.

Huh? The series isn't exactly packed with swearing...

Let's see ... the Rory definition and, in So Long and Thanks, the "Does he,
to put it in a nutshell, f*ck?"

In a five book series, that's not exactly excessive.

Oh, but he did use the word B**g**m a lot, admittedly.

--
Fræk
There are 10 types of people in the world.
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103177 ] So, 07 August 2005 16:19
afda  
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 12:55:59 +0100, "Freakstone"
<cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>news:sve7f11qd9vs8su3ed54nu1cblc62d7b04 [at] 4ax.com...
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> portrayal of Vogon bureaucracy (yay, I spelled that right on first
>>>>>> try).
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> Yes, but can you finish the bloody game?
>>>> Well, I admit I wasn't able to get my hands on an original, but my
>>>> friend has it for old-time macs...
>> I've never seen it at all. Though I think I might've seen a picture
>> of the box, possibly.
>
>It's vicious, fiendishly difficult and, it seems, cannot be completed
>without cheating. I know I didn't manage it.

Sounds exactly like "too hard" for me to be bothered by.


>> Talking of which I've never even managed to oomph enough round tuits
>> to get your walk-through for the Hitchhiker's game. Actually, I'm not
>> even sure I've got sufficient capability currently on this machine to
>> run the game.
>
>Get the DOS based version with an infocom interpreter, that's what I did,
>apart from when I first played it which was on my Amiga.

I had the .z thingy file kicking about a while ago, and I had an
interpreting program too ("WinFrotz", I think it was called).

Hmm.. Chances are they're on one of the back-up CDs in the box on the
top of the filing cabinet.

>I have it, if you want it, and it's tiny and e-mailable. :)

Thanks for the offer, but I'll exhaust some other avenues of
investigation first! ;-)

\me eyes the box on the filing cabinet...

>And you shouldn't need to use a walkthrough on it either.

I played the game up to a point once before. Took a ridiculous amount
of time because I was playing during lunchtimes at work. Took about a
month in calendar time to get on the Heart of Gold and acquire a babel
fish. By which point I was getting bored of the ordeal - trying to
remember where I'd got to, what I'd tried and what I hadn't and all
that sort of thing. So I called it quits.

Then John popped his head up on the radar, touting his walkthrough and
I thought maybe I'd get it sometime and have a quick zip through the
whole thing just for the ride. But I've not even got around to that.

But I'll give the game another go, I think, first. :-)

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Movie thoughts - the Danish thread :-) [message #103183 ] Mo, 08 August 2005 03:38
Steve Marshall  
"Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote


> "Ix - er, I mean Ford."
>
> What was the point ... really?

Don't ask me - that's new stuff. I'm saying the old stuff was good enough
to keep.
Supposedly it is some sort of injoke - a gag for the fans, like the Simon
Jones cameo and the Adams noses. I don't get it. I would much rather have
had ....

"I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them."
"That's the Display Department."
"With a torch."
"The lights had probably gone."
"So had the stairs."
"But you found the plans, didn't you?"
"Oh yes, they were 'on display' in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet
stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the
leopard.'"

..... and that sort of thing included.
Those are the classic bits. They can mess with the story and reinvent
characters and include new bits all they like, but without the classic lines
it doesn't have the essence of what made it great int he first place.

>
> Oh, and ... "Hello ground."
>
> Why?

What ? Is that the whale bit ? It finds a word for ground and then wonders
if it will be friends with it - hello ground. <splat>

Steve M
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