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Fantasy » alt.fan.tolkien » Re: Top 3 SAGA!!
Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #90639] So, 24 Juli 2005 21:58
Sean  
MAUL wrote:
>
> Which do you think are the top 3 legends of all time's ?
> I think it is
> 1. STAR WARS
> 2. Lord of the rings
> 3. STAR TREK
> I hate Harry Potter and i think it cannot come in the list .

Some candidates:

Genesis (Jewish mythology)
The Iliad and Odyssey (Greek mythology)
The Mahabarata (Hindu mythology)
The Icelandic Sagas (Norse)
Beowulf (Norse; earliest known document written in English)
Santa Claus (Christian mythology)
The Nibelungleid (German mythology)
Mozart's Magic Flute (Egyptian mythology)
Bre'r Rabbit (Sub-Sahara African mythology)
Monkey (Chinese mythology)
The Dream Time (Australian aboriginal mythology)
Amaratsu (Japanese mythology)
The Arabian nights (Indian, Persian & Arabian)
Peter and the Wolf (Russian mythology)
Hiawatha (American First Nations mythology)
Ghostbusters I (Sumerian mythology)
How Raven tricked Polar Bear (Eskimo mythology)
Why camels are so cranky (Arabian mythology)
How Flying fish learned to fly (Polynesian mythology)
The girl who turned into a seal rather than marry some creep
who her father had chosen for her on account of his money
(Scottish folk mythology)
Leprechauns (Irish folk mythology)
Asterix and Obelix (Celtic mythology)
Robin Hood (Anglo-Saxon mythology)
Rip van Winkle (colonial American mythology)
Johnny Appleseed (New England mythology)
Legend of Sleepy Hollow (Dutch-American mythology)
Paul Bunyan (midwest American mythology)
Daniel Boone (Appalachian frontier mythology)
Davy Crockett (Texan mythology)
Radisson and Groseilliers (Canada's answer to Davy Crockett)
Moonlight and magnolias (American South) For a good example of this,
see the prolog to the movie version of _Gone with the Wind_:
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/filmnotes/gwtw.html
The _Junior Woodchuck's Official Field Guide_, an amazing document
containing the answer to every conceivable problem
(Walt Disney mythology)
Priceless records destroyed by Spanish colonists with missionary zeal
and may never be recovered (Mesoamerican mythology)
Quetzalcoatl (remnant of Mesoamerican mythology which the Spanish
colonists didn't manage to suppress)
How George Washington 'fessed up about the cherry tree
(contemporary American mythology)

Sean

ps. Although the above includes real historical characters, some of
their deeds have been exaggerated into legends.

pps. Here are a few modern legends, actually more like propaganda.
However, for all we know some of the ancient legends could also
have been propaganda, made up to rationalize something unsavory:

How the cowardly long-haired Commie fag peacenick hippies caused us
to lose the war in Vietnam (right-wing American)
How Jewish Commie back-stabbing traitors caused Germany to lose
World War I (Nazi mythology)
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (Tsarist Russian forgery)
Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #90640 ] So, 24 Juli 2005 22:21
Prai Jei  
Sean (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
<42E3F6EC.EEE6451 [at] no.spam>:

> MAUL wrote:
>>
>> Which do you think are the top 3 legends of all time's ?
>> I think it is
>> 1. STAR WARS
>> 2. Lord of the rings
>> 3. STAR TREK
>> I hate Harry Potter and i think it cannot come in the list .
>
> Some candidates:
>
> Genesis (Jewish history)
> The Iliad and Odyssey (Greek mythology)
> The Mahabarata (Hindu mythology)
> The Icelandic Sagas (Norse)
> Beowulf (Norse; earliest known document written in English)
> etc.

Also:
Kalevala (Finnish mythology)
The Mabinogion (Welsh mythology)
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Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #90649 ] Mo, 25 Juli 2005 00:32
denaldo  
Sean wrote:
> MAUL wrote:
>
>>Which do you think are the top 3 legends of all time's ?
>>I think it is
>>1. STAR WARS
>>2. Lord of the rings
>>3. STAR TREK
>>I hate Harry Potter and i think it cannot come in the list .
>
>
> Some candidates:
>

> Davy Crockett (Texan mythology)
He would be a part of an Alamo mythology.
My pick for Texas legend would be the Pecos Bill stories.



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Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #92923 ] Mo, 25 Juli 2005 18:12
Derek Broughton  
Sean wrote:

> MAUL wrote:
>>
>> Which do you think are the top 3 legends of all time's ?
>> I think it is
>> 1. STAR WARS
>> 2. Lord of the rings
>> 3. STAR TREK
>> I hate Harry Potter and i think it cannot come in the list .
>
> Some candidates:
>

Nicely done! I'm not sure about your ordering, but it looks pretty
complete.

> Ghostbusters I (Sumerian mythology)

LOL!

> How Raven tricked Polar Bear (Eskimo mythology)

Inuit, please.

> Paul Bunyan (midwest American mythology)

?? I'm not sure about that. In Ontario, we had Big Joe Mufferaw, and I
think many other cultures have someone similar. Aren't the roots back in
Greece (Hercules)?
--
derek
Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #92956 ] Mo, 25 Juli 2005 14:49
John Jones  
"Sean" <no.spam [at] no.spam> wrote in message news:42E3F6EC.EEE6451 [at] no.spam...
> MAUL wrote:
> >
> > Which do you think are the top 3 legends of all time's ?
> > I think it is
> > 1. STAR WARS
> > 2. Lord of the rings
> > 3. STAR TREK
> > I hate Harry Potter and i think it cannot come in the list .
>
> Some candidates:
>
> Peter and the Wolf (Russian mythology)

Wasn't this written by Prokofiev?

> Hiawatha (American First Nations mythology)

Ditto Longfellow?
Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #92965 ] Di, 26 Juli 2005 22:13
the softrat  
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:49:20 +0100, "John Jones"
<john [at] jones5011.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>"Sean" <no.spam [at] no.spam> wrote in message news:42E3F6EC.EEE6451 [at] no.spam...
>> MAUL wrote:
>> >
>> > Which do you think are the top 3 legends of all time's ?
>> > I think it is
>> > 1. STAR WARS
>> > 2. Lord of the rings
>> > 3. STAR TREK
>> > I hate Harry Potter and i think it cannot come in the list .
>>
>> Some candidates:
>>
>> Peter and the Wolf (Russian mythology)
>
>Wasn't this written by Prokofiev?
>
Just the music. It's a Russian folk-tale.

>> Hiawatha (American First Nations mythology)
>
>Ditto Longfellow?
>
Just the poem, from Amerindian tales.
>
Mr. Jones should do some more *attentive* reading.

the softrat
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Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #92984 ] Mi, 27 Juli 2005 05:09
Count Menelvagor  
Sean wrote:
> Mozart's Magic Flute (Egyptian mythology)

i'd say rather 18th-century mythology dressed up as egypian.:-)

> Asterix and Obelix (Celtic mythology)

that's not mythology, but the truth -- though one the romans brutally
suppressed.
Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #95103 ] Mi, 27 Juli 2005 20:46
John Jones  
"the softrat" <softrat [at] pobox.com> wrote in message
news:d76de1pr31opsr0jgva44vk1mcokh2lu41 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:49:20 +0100, "John Jones"
> <john [at] jones5011.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Peter and the Wolf (Russian mythology)
> >
> >Wasn't this written by Prokofiev?
> >
> Just the music. It's a Russian folk-tale.
>
> >> Hiawatha (American First Nations mythology)
> >
> >Ditto Longfellow?
> >
> Just the poem, from Amerindian tales.
> >
> Mr. Jones should do some more *attentive* reading.
>

Very likely ... I was listening to P&W on the radio recently, and the
announcer said that Prokoviev had written the story himself, as well as the
music, hence my comment.
Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #95114 ] Mi, 27 Juli 2005 23:58
the softrat  
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:46:02 +0100, "John Jones"
<john [at] jones5011.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Very likely ... I was listening to P&W on the radio recently, and the
>announcer said that Prokoviev had written the story himself, as well as the
>music, hence my comment.
>
And you *believed* a radio announcer????

the softrat
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Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #95142 ] Do, 28 Juli 2005 16:56
Larry Swain  
John Jones wrote:

> "the softrat" <softrat [at] pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:d76de1pr31opsr0jgva44vk1mcokh2lu41 [at] 4ax.com...
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:49:20 +0100, "John Jones"
>><john [at] jones5011.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Peter and the Wolf (Russian mythology)
>>>
>>>Wasn't this written by Prokofiev?
>>>
>>
>>Just the music. It's a Russian folk-tale.
>>
>>
>>>>Hiawatha (American First Nations mythology)
>>>
>>>Ditto Longfellow?
>>>
>>
>>Just the poem, from Amerindian tales.
>>
>>Mr. Jones should do some more *attentive* reading.
>>
>
>
> Very likely ... I was listening to P&W on the radio recently, and the
> announcer said that Prokoviev had written the story himself, as well as the
> music, hence my comment.
>

I believe, though I should check, that versions of the story were around
for a long time. P took the story, established a text, and then wrote
music around his text.
Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #95178 ] Fr, 29 Juli 2005 03:37
the softrat  
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:56:07 -0500, Larry Swain
<theswain [at] operamail.com> wrote:
>
>I believe, though I should check, that versions of the story were around
>for a long time. P took the story, established a text, and then wrote
>music around his text.
>
I concur.

the softrat
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Re: Top 3 SAGA!! [message #97604 ] Do, 28 Juli 2005 19:22
John Jones  
"the softrat" <softrat [at] pobox.com> wrote in message
news:3r0ge15kd008q0ssaval6ocmo80n8iiacq [at] 4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:46:02 +0100, "John Jones"
> <john [at] jones5011.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >Very likely ... I was listening to P&W on the radio recently, and the
> >announcer said that Prokoviev had written the story himself, as well as
the
> >music, hence my comment.
> >
> And you *believed* a radio announcer????
>
I believe anything ...
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