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Setting up a server [message #83393] Mi, 20 Juli 2005 07:38
Draco18s  
I guess I'll make this post to the general populous (get more imput that
way), that and I think that there are several out there who have done what
I'm looking to do. *Looks at Maxx*

I'm trying to turn my desktop machine into a server. Why? Because I think
it'd be fun. My problem is, I don't know anything about setting up a
server.
I know I need "software" (an OS with certain services), but I've had trouble
getting Linux installed properly on the machine (I even did Gentoo, and I
find it strange, but it ran out of room unpacking the tar.bz2 files).
At first I wanted a machine where I could log on locally to use it as a
desktop, but now I don't much care (my laptop serving me well in everything
I've asked it to run (save one game, but I'll live without it), and being
nearly identical in stats, only a slower processor (equal to what the
desktop used to be though)).

What I want to know is:
What OS should I use?
Any things I need to do that don't involve the machine (I.E. registering a
DNS)?
Anything else?

And I want as free as I can get. I don't want to shell out $100+ to run a
pet project with no projected income.


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Re: Setting up a server [message #86196 ] Mi, 20 Juli 2005 14:16
Zarris  
Draco18s wrote:
> I guess I'll make this post to the general populous (get more imput that
> way), that and I think that there are several out there who have done what
> I'm looking to do. *Looks at Maxx*
>
> I'm trying to turn my desktop machine into a server. Why? Because I think
> it'd be fun. My problem is, I don't know anything about setting up a
> server.
> I know I need "software" (an OS with certain services), but I've had trouble
> getting Linux installed properly on the machine (I even did Gentoo, and I
> find it strange, but it ran out of room unpacking the tar.bz2 files).
> At first I wanted a machine where I could log on locally to use it as a
> desktop, but now I don't much care (my laptop serving me well in everything
> I've asked it to run (save one game, but I'll live without it), and being
> nearly identical in stats, only a slower processor (equal to what the
> desktop used to be though)).
>
> What I want to know is:
> What OS should I use?

only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
text based)
Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)

dont know the pros or cons of them, so might do some research.

> Any things I need to do that don't involve the machine (I.E. registering a
> DNS)?

far as i know,, need to register a domain name and get a static ip.

> Anything else?

cant think of anything

>
> And I want as free as I can get. I don't want to shell out $100+ to run a
> pet project with no projected income.
>
>
> --
> Draco18s

--
Zarris
Re: Setting up a server [message #86197 ] Mi, 20 Juli 2005 14:28
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: Setting up a server [message #86201 ] Mi, 20 Juli 2005 17:09
Draco18s  
In article <Xns969941DF08F41HalfDragon [at] news.dragonfur.ca>,
leavenospam [at] dragonfur.ca says...
> Reality folded in on itself, and somewhere the following words from
> "Draco18s" apeared in history:
>
> > I guess I'll make this post to the general populous, that and
> > I think that there are several out there who have done what
> > I'm looking to do. *Looks at Maxx*
>
> What... What do I do??? };8)

Mess around with computers. And servers.

> > I'm trying to turn my desktop machine into a server.
> > Why? Because I think it'd be fun.
> <snip>
> > What OS should I use?
>
> Something free...
>
> > Any things I need to do that don't involve the machine (I.E.
> > registering a DNS)?
>
> If it's only going to exist inside you firewall, or for the use of a
> few close freinds, then no. There are a few Dynamic-DNS things you
> could do, but for the most part it's not required.

I had planned on the net in general, seeing as the ethernet I have available
(called ResNet) goes there. Firewalls on the ethernet are local end only
(although I think that the ResNet network has some other stuff between me
and the www seeing as I have to register the wall jack first).

> > Anything else?
>
> How long can you wait? I got-to-be up at 9am (in a few hours), but I
> should be back around 8pm mountain tonight, and I can set aside a
> little more brainpower units to then... But sleep first..

No problem. 1 day isn't going to slow me down much (I've been resurrecting
this PC since May of 2004).

> > And I want as free as I can get. I don't want to shell out $100+
> > to run a pet project with no projected income.
>
> Gotcha... So I'm thinking Unix, as in NetBSD. Raven was FreeBSD,
> but NetBSD is a little more secure if you want to share things.

NetBSD huh...I'll go looking for it.

--
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Re: Setting up a server [message #86202 ] Mi, 20 Juli 2005 21:22
Al Phi  
Draco18s wrote:
> I guess I'll make this post to the general populous (get more imput that
> way), that and I think that there are several out there who have done what
> I'm looking to do. *Looks at Maxx*
>
> I'm trying to turn my desktop machine into a server. Why? Because I think
> it'd be fun. My problem is, I don't know anything about setting up a
> server.
> I know I need "software" (an OS with certain services), but I've had trouble
> getting Linux installed properly on the machine (I even did Gentoo, and I
> find it strange, but it ran out of room unpacking the tar.bz2 files).
> At first I wanted a machine where I could log on locally to use it as a
> desktop, but now I don't much care (my laptop serving me well in everything
> I've asked it to run (save one game, but I'll live without it), and being
> nearly identical in stats, only a slower processor (equal to what the
> desktop used to be though)).
>
> What I want to know is:
> What OS should I use?
> Any things I need to do that don't involve the machine (I.E. registering a
> DNS)?
> Anything else?
>
> And I want as free as I can get. I don't want to shell out $100+ to run a
> pet project with no projected income.

You'll probably want Linux or another Unix-based OS. Most versions of
Linux come with Apache. If what you have doesn't, you can get Apache
from http://httpd.apache.org. Apache is pretty OS-independent. I even
have an Apache test server on my Windows box.

If you have several computers able to connect to the internet, you need
a router and set it up with port forwarding. With this, several
computers could be made servers, and you will not have to buy another
real WAN IP from your ISP.

As for setting up your server on the Internet, you can use no-ip or
dyndns free services. However, if you are on a so-called 'shared ip'
like I'm on, you will at least have to buy an IP address.

--
Al Phi

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Re: Setting up a server [message #86203 ] Mi, 20 Juli 2005 23:48
Draco18s  
In article <dbm89e$klo$1 [at] domitilla.aioe.org>, drak0l8er [at] gmail.com says...
> Draco18s wrote:
> > What I want to know is:
> > What OS should I use?
> > Any things I need to do that don't involve the machine (I.E. registering a
> > DNS)?
> > Anything else?
> >
> > And I want as free as I can get. I don't want to shell out $100+ to run a
> > pet project with no projected income.
>
> You'll probably want Linux or another Unix-based OS.

That's the idea.

> Most versions of
> Linux come with Apache. If what you have doesn't, you can get Apache
> from http://httpd.apache.org. Apache is pretty OS-independent. I even
> have an Apache test server on my Windows box.

I've got the stuff for Apache in case I need it.

> If you have several computers able to connect to the internet, you need
> a router and set it up with port forwarding. With this, several
> computers could be made servers, and you will not have to buy another
> real WAN IP from your ISP.

My IP is my IP, no matter how many times I "get a new IP" I end up with the
same one. Drexel has a whole slew of them for the wifi network and for the
ResNet. There's rarely a conflict (and then it's only been with my wifi).
So, no problems there.

> As for setting up your server on the Internet, you can use no-ip or
> dyndns free services. However, if you are on a so-called 'shared ip'
> like I'm on, you will at least have to buy an IP address.

Nice, there *are* free dns places.
*Remembers having seen dyndns before.*

--
Draco18s
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"Yum!" |> v-v-v-v |>
| , , .|. | n | .|.
'. |_/| | |'''''''''''| | \
(q p),-| | HERSHEY'S | |'-._ ))
/_(/ | | CHO|"|LIT | | ) '-.___//
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: Setting up a server [message #86205 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 02:39
v_dragon  
On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
wrote:

>>
>> What I want to know is:
>> What OS should I use?
>
>only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
>Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
>text based)
>Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
>Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
>
I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....



--
Vincent

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Keeper of The Great Book of Random Stuff
www.dragonbathhouse.com
v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net

Up the Irons!
---------------------------
Scouting- Because Character counts
Duke of Dutch Ovens [DoDo]
dragonbathhouse.150m.com/klah/dutchovenfaq.htm
<'cause few know what a dutch oven is>
Priest in charge of the pastries
---------------------------
"The tears of a Dragon,
For you and for me."
-Bruce Dickinson
Re: Setting up a server [message #86206 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 05:31
Draco18s  
In article <6krtd1h850f3icpanhfdc5cnffhtkoh43j [at] 4ax.com>,
v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
> On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> What I want to know is:
> >> What OS should I use?
> >
> >only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
> >Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
> >text based)
> >Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
> >Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
> >
> I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....

*Nods*
I'm trying to avoid Windozs for this. Rather...I'm trying to avoid
Windoze...entirely...

--
Draco18s
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"Yum!" |> v-v-v-v |>
| , , .|. | n | .|.
'. |_/| | |'''''''''''| | \
(q p),-| | HERSHEY'S | |'-._ ))
/_(/ | | CHO|"|LIT | | ) '-.___//
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: Setting up a server [message #86208 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 05:36
v_dragon  
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:31:34 -0400, Draco18s
<draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <6krtd1h850f3icpanhfdc5cnffhtkoh43j [at] 4ax.com>,
>v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
>> On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> What I want to know is:
>> >> What OS should I use?
>> >
>> >only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
>> >Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
>> >text based)
>> >Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
>> >Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
>> >
>> I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....
>
>*Nods*
>I'm trying to avoid Windozs for this. Rather...I'm trying to avoid
>Windoze...entirely...

I can understand that, I have to use it on a daily basis so it's what
I know...I wish I had the time to learn Linux...


--
Vincent

DC2.D Gm L W- T- Phwalt Skh Cta,bta+ Bco/fl A Fr++ Nn
M O H--- Fo R+++! Ac+ J+ S? I---# V? Q? Tc++[Technition] E+

Keeper of The Great Book of Random Stuff
www.dragonbathhouse.com
v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net

Up the Irons!
---------------------------
Scouting- Because Character counts
Duke of Dutch Ovens [DoDo]
dragonbathhouse.150m.com/klah/dutchovenfaq.htm
<'cause few know what a dutch oven is>
Priest in charge of the pastries
---------------------------
"The tears of a Dragon,
For you and for me."
-Bruce Dickinson
Re: Setting up a server [message #86209 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 05:31
Draco18s  
In article <6krtd1h850f3icpanhfdc5cnffhtkoh43j [at] 4ax.com>,
v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
> On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> What I want to know is:
> >> What OS should I use?
> >
> >only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
> >Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
> >text based)
> >Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
> >Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
> >
> I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....

*Nods*
I'm trying to avoid Windozs for this. Rather...I'm trying to avaiod
Windoze...entirely...

--
Draco18s
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| , , .|. | n | .|.
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/_(/ | | CHO|"|LIT | | ) '-.___//
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Re: Setting up a server [message #86212 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 08:45
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 20 Jul 2005, Zarris was found to have scratched
news:1121861789.399058.148130 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:

>> Any things I need to do that don't involve the machine (I.E.
>> registering a DNS)?
> far as i know,, need to register a domain name and get a static ip.

You could go to www.dyndns.org and get a free DNS, both for static and
dynamic IPs.



Lord Flame Stryke

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Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep, First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the
Pickaxe to Kalos

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Re: Setting up a server [message #86213 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 08:50
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 20 Jul 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
news:1121872149.5fed1d1c10fd69f6ebad603a4f49f15e [at] teranews on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:

> I had planned on the net in general, seeing as the ethernet I have
> available (called ResNet) goes there. Firewalls on the ethernet are
> local end only (although I think that the ResNet network has some
> other stuff between me and the www seeing as I have to register the
> wall jack first).

Actually, it's the NIC you're registering. Most DSL companies I've
noticed require you to register your NIC, meaning that if you get
another computer you need to call them up to remove your old one, or pay
for an additional one.

Also, you might want to look into routers or like-minded software. I
had a friend who had an Amiga running as a router. It worked wonders.
All these new and exciting viruses got onto the Amiga, looked around,
paniced because they didn't see anything they knew how to run on, and
died.



Lord Flame Stryke

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of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep, First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the
Pickaxe to Kalos

--
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Re: Setting up a server [message #86215 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 13:31
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Re: Setting up a server [message #86217 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 15:57
Zarris  
v_dragon wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> What I want to know is:
> >> What OS should I use?
> >
> >only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
> >Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
> >text based)
> >Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
> >Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
> >
> I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....

.... forgot that one... but didnt think it worked for websites, only
client server stuff...

>
>
>
> --
> Vincent
>
--
Zarris
Re: Setting up a server [message #86219 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 17:15
Draco18s  
In article <506ud1phn1m3n2dajp54067kjk4ot9ir31 [at] 4ax.com>,
v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:31:34 -0400, Draco18s
> <draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <6krtd1h850f3icpanhfdc5cnffhtkoh43j [at] 4ax.com>,
> >v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
> >> On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What I want to know is:
> >> >> What OS should I use?
> >> >
> >> >only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
> >> >Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
> >> >text based)
> >> >Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
> >> >Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
> >> >
> >> I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....
> >
> >*Nods*
> >I'm trying to avoid Windozs for this. Rather...I'm trying to avoid
> >Windoze...entirely...
>
> I can understand that, I have to use it on a daily basis so it's what
> I know...I wish I had the time to learn Linux...

The best way to learn is to own, IMO. If something goes horribly wrong, I
ask someone more knowledgeable. Same as with windows.

Now if you want a Linux that is very Windows like, get Lindows. And then
start working backwards in versions....

--
Draco18s
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"Yum!" |> v-v-v-v |>
| , , .|. | n | .|.
'. |_/| | |'''''''''''| | \
(q p),-| | HERSHEY'S | |'-._ ))
/_(/ | | CHO|"|LIT | | ) '-.___//
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: Setting up a server [message #86220 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 17:19
Draco18s  
In article <Xns969A382726F64HalfDragon [at] news.dragonfur.ca>,
leavenospam [at] dragonfur.ca says...
> Reality folded in on itself, and somewhere the following words from
> "Draco18s" apeared in history:
>
> >> What... What do I do??? };8)
> >
> > Mess around with computers. And servers.
>
> You mean like running 3 monitors? Ok so I DID need it for my
> programing... You can never have enough screen real-estate when trying
> to debug a tempermental program. };8)
>
> Just got a new acer 17" LCD (AL1715), and now I need/want two more; a
> second one to replace that aging 15" Magnavox, and that cool 21" model
> for my primary... Oh the geek goodness... }:8P

OMGBBQ!Geeky!

<snip>
> So, does anyone have a way to "clean it out"?

Toothpick?

> <snip>
> > I had planned on the net in general, seeing as the ethernet I have
> > available (called ResNet) goes there. Firewalls on the ethernet
> > are local end only (although I think that the ResNet network has
> > some other stuff between me and the www seeing as I have to
> > register the wall jack first).
>
>
> >> How long can you wait? Bla Bla bla...
> >
> > No problem. 1 day isn't going to slow me down much
> > (I've been resurrecting this PC since May of 2004).
>
> Coolies... But I'll have to squeaze you in latter again.
> I was kind-off distracked again. };8)

No problem.

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Re: Setting up a server [message #86221 ] Do, 21 Juli 2005 23:43
Al Phi  
Draco18s wrote:
> In article <506ud1phn1m3n2dajp54067kjk4ot9ir31 [at] 4ax.com>,
> v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:31:34 -0400, Draco18s
>><draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <6krtd1h850f3icpanhfdc5cnffhtkoh43j [at] 4ax.com>,
>>>v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
>>>
>>>>On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>What I want to know is:
>>>>>>What OS should I use?
>>>>>
>>>>>only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
>>>>>Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
>>>>>text based)
>>>>>Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
>>>>>Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....
>>>
>>>*Nods*
>>>I'm trying to avoid Windozs for this. Rather...I'm trying to avoid
>>>Windoze...entirely...
>>
>>I can understand that, I have to use it on a daily basis so it's what
>>I know...I wish I had the time to learn Linux...
>
>
> The best way to learn is to own, IMO. If something goes horribly wrong, I
> ask someone more knowledgeable. Same as with windows.

Perhaps *before* something goes horribly wrong.

> Now if you want a Linux that is very Windows like, get Lindows. And then
> start working backwards in versions....

I've heard good things about Lindows, but I've never tried it. I'm
currently using KDE on Fedora Core 4. It's not awesome, but I didn't
have the money to buy a commercial distro. I wonder how much Lindows,
which is now called Linspire, costs. I think I might want it for my
laptop computer.

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Re: Setting up a server [message #86223 ] Fr, 22 Juli 2005 03:32
v_dragon  
On 21 Jul 2005 06:57:52 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
wrote:

>
>
>v_dragon wrote:
>> On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> What I want to know is:
>> >> What OS should I use?
>> >
>> >only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
>> >Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
>> >text based)
>> >Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
>> >Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
>> >
>> I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....
>
>... forgot that one... but didnt think it worked for websites, only
>client server stuff...
>
I run an internal http site from it...


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Re: Setting up a server [message #86224 ] Fr, 22 Juli 2005 05:33
Draco18s  
In article <dbp4ug$dvo$1 [at] domitilla.aioe.org>, drak0l8er [at] gmail.com says...
> Draco18s wrote:
> > In article <506ud1phn1m3n2dajp54067kjk4ot9ir31 [at] 4ax.com>,
> > v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
> >
> >>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:31:34 -0400, Draco18s
> >><draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <6krtd1h850f3icpanhfdc5cnffhtkoh43j [at] 4ax.com>,
> >>>v_dragon [at] bellsouth.net says...
> >>>
> >>>>On 20 Jul 2005 05:16:29 -0700, "Zarris" <WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com>
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>What I want to know is:
> >>>>>>What OS should I use?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>only can think of three things that can become a webserver:
> >>>>>Unix (linux might do (try store bought, might work better), unix is
> >>>>>text based)
> >>>>>Apache (thinking its just a program, not sure what os though)
> >>>>>Windows server 2003 web edition (can scratch that one out, not cheap)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I use windows 2000 advanced server for mine....
> >>>
> >>>*Nods*
> >>>I'm trying to avoid Windozs for this. Rather...I'm trying to avoid
> >>>Windoze...entirely...
> >>
> >>I can understand that, I have to use it on a daily basis so it's what
> >>I know...I wish I had the time to learn Linux...
> >
> >
> > The best way to learn is to own, IMO. If something goes horribly wrong, I
> > ask someone more knowledgeable. Same as with windows.
>
> Perhaps *before* something goes horribly wrong.
>
> > Now if you want a Linux that is very Windows like, get Lindows. And then
> > start working backwards in versions....
>
> I've heard good things about Lindows, but I've never tried it. I'm
> currently using KDE on Fedora Core 4. It's not awesome, but I didn't
> have the money to buy a commercial distro. I wonder how much Lindows,
> which is now called Linspire, costs. I think I might want it for my
> laptop computer.

Last I knew, it was free. But as I've heard that Linspire is getting so
close to Windows as to actually be bad, I'm not looking into it myself.

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