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Fantasy » alt.fan.dragons » Re: Dragon Torch
Re: Dragon Torch [message #80739] Sa, 16 Juli 2005 23:10
pocketdragon  
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:58:21 GMT
Lord Flame Stryke <FlameStryke [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> Um..... This is an image..... Viruses can't exist in images, they're
> executable code, and images are never executed. You must have gortten
> your virus from something else, unless there was another attachment I
> didn't get.....

Actually, you can put a virus in an image - its just binary data.

the trick is getting it executed - which would require you to find something like a buffer overflow in the decoder and craft a special JPEG that can trigger it and use that to get your code executed...
Re: Dragon Torch [message #80744 ] So, 17 Juli 2005 05:31
v_dragon  
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:10:01 +0100, pocketdragon [at] f2s.com wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:58:21 GMT
>Lord Flame Stryke <FlameStryke [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Um..... This is an image..... Viruses can't exist in images, they're
>> executable code, and images are never executed. You must have gortten
>> your virus from something else, unless there was another attachment I
>> didn't get.....
>
>Actually, you can put a virus in an image - its just binary data.
>
>the trick is getting it executed - which would require you to find something like a buffer overflow in the decoder and craft a special JPEG that can trigger it and use that to get your code executed...

If anybody still has an unpatched GDI they deserve to get a sick
computer...


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Re: Dragon Torch [message #80766 ] Mo, 18 Juli 2005 02:00
Scott L  
v_dragon wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:10:01 +0100, pocketdragon [at] f2s.com wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:58:21 GMT
> >Lord Flame Stryke <FlameStryke [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Um..... This is an image..... Viruses can't exist in images,
> they're >> executable code, and images are never executed. You must
> have gortten >> your virus from something else, unless there was
> another attachment I >> didn't get.....
> >
> > Actually, you can put a virus in an image - its just binary data.
> >
> > the trick is getting it executed - which would require you to find
> > something like a buffer overflow in the decoder and craft a special
> > JPEG that can trigger it and use that to get your code executed...
>
> If anybody still has an unpatched GDI they deserve to get a sick
> computer...

There was a relatively recent proof of concept datafile virus done
about a year (?) ago. Technique never got released to the public, but
you know the illegal type of hackers - if it can be done....

Just a Monkey,

Scott,

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Re: Dragon Torch [message #83364 ] Di, 19 Juli 2005 07:59
Pyros Rutilicus  
At Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:00:33 GMT, "Scott L" <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com>
hissed:

> v_dragon wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:10:01 +0100, pocketdragon [at] f2s.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:58:21 GMT
>> >Lord Flame Stryke <FlameStryke [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Um..... This is an image..... Viruses can't exist in images,
>> they're >> executable code, and images are never executed. You must
>> have gortten >> your virus from something else, unless there was
>> another attachment I >> didn't get.....
>> >
>> > Actually, you can put a virus in an image - its just binary data.
>> >
>> > the trick is getting it executed - which would require you to find
>> > something like a buffer overflow in the decoder and craft a special
>> > JPEG that can trigger it and use that to get your code executed...
>>
>> If anybody still has an unpatched GDI they deserve to get a sick
>> computer...
>
> There was a relatively recent proof of concept datafile virus done
> about a year (?) ago. Technique never got released to the public, but
> you know the illegal type of hackers - if it can be done....

"Trojan.Moo":
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/troj an.moo.html
the vulnerability:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-028. mspx

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