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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » Global Frequency
| Global Frequency [message #69991] |
Di, 28 Juni 2005 10:38 |
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Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
really it's a bit of a lot of things.
It looks like a lot of fun. Hope it makes it somewhere.
--
"The audience was swell, they were so polite they covered their mouths when
they yawned."
-- Bob Hope
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71500 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 11:02 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEE676A5.74729%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>
Michelle Forbes, who turned down a role as a regular on DS9 because she was
destined to have a big career in film. One role in a major film (Kalifornia)
and then pffffft!
Maybe she had the same agent as Denise Crosby, who made an equally stupid
move (hope you got a lot of coin for Pet Sematary, Denise!).
Forbes is a terrific actress, and was a delight in her short-lived stint on
Homicide. But after such a dumb move, it's hard to root for her. As a
friend of mine with a limited grasp of English is fond of saying: You've
buttered your bread, now lie in it!
Bo Raxo
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71504 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 16:48 |
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in article 1F7xe.2497$8f7.2324 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/1/05 4:02 AM:
>
> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> news:BEE676A5.74729%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>>
>
> Michelle Forbes, who turned down a role as a regular on DS9 because she was
> destined to have a big career in film. One role in a major film (Kalifornia)
> and then pffffft!
>
> Maybe she had the same agent as Denise Crosby, who made an equally stupid
> move (hope you got a lot of coin for Pet Sematary, Denise!).
>
> Forbes is a terrific actress, and was a delight in her short-lived stint on
> Homicide. But after such a dumb move, it's hard to root for her. As a
> friend of mine with a limited grasp of English is fond of saying: You've
> buttered your bread, now lie in it!
>
>
> Bo Raxo
She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left Trek
because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge pervert.
And lets face it a lot of women just aren't that interested in sci-fi.
--
"Few things are harder to put up with than a good example."
-- Mark Twain
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71505 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 17:09 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEEAC1FE.748BF%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>
> She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
Yup.
>
> I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left Trek
> because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge pervert.
>
If every actress who had to deal with a producer who was an asshole or a
pervert quit their show, network television would be a sausage fest - not a
woman in sight.
> And lets face it a lot of women just aren't that interested in sci-fi.
Which has nothing to do with leaving the show - that's a career decision.
You think the actors on a show actually watch it, or similar shows in the
genre? You think this figures in to their career choices?
Elvis, c'mon, you're smarter than that.
Bo Raxo
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71506 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 17:09 |
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Elvis Gump <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote:
> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>
> It looks like a lot of fun. Hope it makes it somewhere.
It reminds me a bit of Bladerunner, even if it is set in present-day
San Francisco Chinatown.
And it shares something with The Inside and The 4400, and is very much
an improvement over most Trek, in that there is not an easy answer and
a happy ending. Great things are accomplished, but they have a cost.
I am getting tired, though, of seeing groups of commandos, in full
combat dress including helmets and vests, shooting up empty elevators.
It has been done. Nothing to see there, time to move along. Plus, these
guys shouldn't be shooting until they identify a target.
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71507 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 18:17 |
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in article L0dxe.2585$8f7.1642 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/1/05 10:09 AM:
>
> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> news:BEEAC1FE.748BF%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>>
>> She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
>
> Yup.
>
>> I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left Trek
>> because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge pervert.
>
> If every actress who had to deal with a producer who was an asshole or a
> pervert quit their show, network television would be a sausage fest - not a
> woman in sight.
Well in many ways you can argue that's always what it's been for the most
part anyhow. Most women's roles have been damsels in distress, mothers or
whores for the most part. That's why when say a part came along like
Sigourney Weaver in "Alien" where she kicked ass it was so surprising though
much of the audience today 25 years later might not be old enough to
remember.
>> And lets face it a lot of women just aren't that interested in sci-fi.
>
> Which has nothing to do with leaving the show - that's a career decision.
> You think the actors on a show actually watch it, or similar shows in the
> genre? You think this figures in to their career choices?
>
> Elvis, c'mon, you're smarter than that.
>
> Bo Raxo
Yeah, but I'm not going to be MAD at Michelle for not wanting to continue in
Star Trek. I always suspected that she was probably freaked out by the fact
that they were going to build DS9 around her character as she was supposed
to have the part that the Major Kira character eventually was created to
fill. Since I've never heard the story of what exactly went on, but the gist
of how the production office ran I wouldn't blame her for wondering what the
hell their ulterior motives were. And bolting.
Thing is how big a star is Nana Visitor? Or anyone from DS9? Avery Brooks
and others really exist on the rep they had before Trek. Colm Meany is
probably second to Michael Caine as the U.K.'s hardest working man in show
bid-ness so his rep doesn't depend on it either.
So anyway I don't really hold any of that against her. I don't even think
this "Global Frequency" thing would fly without some changes, not the least
of which is find a better way of showing the networking of these people
without the girl in the operators chair doing that "You're on the Global
Frequency" every fucking time. Something that sounded more innocuous like
"This is the Global Operator" would be less silly sounding as well as more
realistic not to arouse so much interest in a SECRET organization.
The whole thing has shadows of other shows, a little MiB, a little
Millennium and so forth. Michelle seemed to be doing a little bits of
Trinity from Matrix as well as channeling Edward James Olmos' stoic
character from Miami Vice. But she's good and can carry all that off and it
might be a fun show idea to tell the kind of moral/political stories that
Trek was good at on a more down to earth budget.
--
"Eternity with nerds. It's the Pasadena Star Trek convention all over
again."
-- Nichelle Nichols, playing Uhura in "Futurama"
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71508 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 18:20 |
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in article 010720051009597569%cmn-nospam [at] houston.rr.com, Mark Nobles at
cmn-nospam [at] houston.rr.com wrote on 7/1/05 10:09 AM:
> Elvis Gump <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote:
>
>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>>
>> It looks like a lot of fun. Hope it makes it somewhere.
>
> It reminds me a bit of Bladerunner, even if it is set in present-day
> San Francisco Chinatown.
The thing of the EX-COP eating NOODLES in the NEON CHINATOWN thing may have
had something to do with it.
> And it shares something with The Inside and The 4400, and is very much
> an improvement over most Trek, in that there is not an easy answer and
> a happy ending. Great things are accomplished, but they have a cost.
> I am getting tired, though, of seeing groups of commandos, in full
> combat dress including helmets and vests, shooting up empty elevators.
> It has been done. Nothing to see there, time to move along. Plus, these
> guys shouldn't be shooting until they identify a target.
Yeah. There's a jpg scan of a comic book version of this origin story that
came with the file I downloaded where you can see the picked and discarded
the idea for their script from - The Matrix like break-in was NOT part of
the comic's idea. But that's Hollywood for ya. If there's a good producer
maybe some of those inane impulses would be overcome. I haven't had time to
read up on the production since I posted the link, been busy trying to buy a
house!
--
"All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice
must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will
exert upon events in the political field."
-- Albert Einstein
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71514 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 19:37 |
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in article BEEAC1FE.748BF%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us, Elvis Gump at
elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us wrote on 7/1/05 7:48 AM:
> in article 1F7xe.2497$8f7.2324 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
> invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/1/05 4:02 AM:
>
>>
>> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
>> news:BEE676A5.74729%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
>>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
>>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
>>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
>>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>>>
>>
>> Michelle Forbes, who turned down a role as a regular on DS9 because she was
>> destined to have a big career in film. One role in a major film (Kalifornia)
>> and then pffffft!
>>
>> Maybe she had the same agent as Denise Crosby, who made an equally stupid
>> move (hope you got a lot of coin for Pet Sematary, Denise!).
>>
>> Forbes is a terrific actress, and was a delight in her short-lived stint on
>> Homicide. But after such a dumb move, it's hard to root for her. As a
>> friend of mine with a limited grasp of English is fond of saying: You've
>> buttered your bread, now lie in it!
>>
>>
>> Bo Raxo
>
> She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
>
> I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left Trek
> because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge pervert.
Well, Braga clearly was trying to overcompensate for all sorts of
shortcomings, but B&B didn't have much to do with DS9 anyway, which is why
it was good.
>
> And lets face it a lot of women just aren't that interested in sci-fi.
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71520 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 20:04 |
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Elvis Gump <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote:
> Mark Nobles at cmn-nospam [at] houston.rr.com wrote:
> > Elvis Gump <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote:
> >
> >> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
> >> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
> >> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
> >> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
> >> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
> >>
> >> It looks like a lot of fun. Hope it makes it somewhere.
> >
> > It reminds me a bit of Bladerunner, even if it is set in present-day
> > San Francisco Chinatown.
>
> The thing of the EX-COP eating NOODLES in the NEON CHINATOWN thing may have
> had something to do with it.
Yeah, there was that wasn't there? Plus the "time to die" moment at the
end.
>
> > And it shares something with The Inside and The 4400, and is very much
> > an improvement over most Trek, in that there is not an easy answer and
> > a happy ending. Great things are accomplished, but they have a cost.
>
> > I am getting tired, though, of seeing groups of commandos, in full
> > combat dress including helmets and vests, shooting up empty elevators.
> > It has been done. Nothing to see there, time to move along. Plus, these
> > guys shouldn't be shooting until they identify a target.
>
> Yeah. There's a jpg scan of a comic book version of this origin story that
> came with the file I downloaded where you can see the picked and discarded
> the idea for their script from - The Matrix like break-in was NOT part of
> the comic's idea. But that's Hollywood for ya. If there's a good producer
> maybe some of those inane impulses would be overcome.
I liked the rest of the break in. Just that one part has been beaten to
death and is still being beaten.
In fact, I liked the show better than the part of the comic that's
there on the web site.
> I haven't had time to
> read up on the production since I posted the link, been busy trying to buy a
> house!
The website I saw for the comic didn't have anything about the show.
<http://www.globalfrequency.org/>
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71522 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 21:07 |
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
news:BEEACD85.3D42F%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
> in article BEEAC1FE.748BF%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us, Elvis Gump at
> elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us wrote on 7/1/05 7:48 AM:
>
> > in article 1F7xe.2497$8f7.2324 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo
at
> > invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/1/05 4:02 AM:
> >
> >>
> >> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> >> news:BEE676A5.74729%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> >>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in
searching
> >>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
> >>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth
and
> >>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little
Matrix;
> >>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Michelle Forbes, who turned down a role as a regular on DS9 because she
was
> >> destined to have a big career in film. One role in a major film
(Kalifornia)
> >> and then pffffft!
> >>
> >> Maybe she had the same agent as Denise Crosby, who made an equally
stupid
> >> move (hope you got a lot of coin for Pet Sematary, Denise!).
> >>
> >> Forbes is a terrific actress, and was a delight in her short-lived
stint on
> >> Homicide. But after such a dumb move, it's hard to root for her. As a
> >> friend of mine with a limited grasp of English is fond of saying:
You've
> >> buttered your bread, now lie in it!
> >>
> >>
> >> Bo Raxo
> >
> > She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
> >
> > I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left Trek
> > because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge
pervert.
>
> Well, Braga clearly was trying to overcompensate for all sorts of
> shortcomings, but B&B didn't have much to do with DS9 anyway, which is why
> it was good.
Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory bubble, but Rick Berman had as much to
do with DS9 as he did with Voyager and Enterprise. DS9 was better because it
had better writers, like Ron Moore for example.
--
Qa'pla
Kweeg
Ten of Clubs in the eeeevil Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71525 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 22:27 |
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in article Svgxe.1845939$Xk.378330 [at] pd7tw3no, Kweeg at kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca
wrote on 7/1/05 12:07 PM:
> "ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
> news:BEEACD85.3D42F%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
>> in article BEEAC1FE.748BF%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us, Elvis Gump at
>> elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us wrote on 7/1/05 7:48 AM:
>>
>>> in article 1F7xe.2497$8f7.2324 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo
> at
>>> invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/1/05 4:02 AM:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
>>>> news:BEE676A5.74729%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>>>>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in
> searching
>>>>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
>>>>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth
> and
>>>>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little
> Matrix;
>>>>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michelle Forbes, who turned down a role as a regular on DS9 because she
> was
>>>> destined to have a big career in film. One role in a major film
> (Kalifornia)
>>>> and then pffffft!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe she had the same agent as Denise Crosby, who made an equally
> stupid
>>>> move (hope you got a lot of coin for Pet Sematary, Denise!).
>>>>
>>>> Forbes is a terrific actress, and was a delight in her short-lived
> stint on
>>>> Homicide. But after such a dumb move, it's hard to root for her. As a
>>>> friend of mine with a limited grasp of English is fond of saying:
> You've
>>>> buttered your bread, now lie in it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bo Raxo
>>>
>>> She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
>>>
>>> I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left Trek
>>> because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge
> pervert.
>>
>> Well, Braga clearly was trying to overcompensate for all sorts of
>> shortcomings, but B&B didn't have much to do with DS9 anyway, which is why
>> it was good.
>
> Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory bubble, but Rick Berman had as much to
> do with DS9 as he did with Voyager and Enterprise. DS9 was better because it
> had better writers, like Ron Moore for example.
Except of course for the part where you are totally, and easily provably,
wrong. Start by seeing how many DS9 eps Berman has a writing credit on.
DS9 had better writers, yes, because Braga and Berman weren't hands on with
it.
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71532 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 23:54 |
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in article BEEACD85.3D42F%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net, ANIM8Rfsk at ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net
wrote on 7/1/05 12:37 PM:
> in article BEEAC1FE.748BF%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us, Elvis Gump at
> elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us wrote on 7/1/05 7:48 AM:
>> in article 1F7xe.2497$8f7.2324 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
>> invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/1/05 4:02 AM:
>>> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
>>> news:BEE676A5.74729%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>>>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
>>>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
>>>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
>>>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
>>>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>>> Michelle Forbes, who turned down a role as a regular on DS9 because she was
>>> destined to have a big career in film. One role in a major film (Kalifornia)
>>> and then pffffft!
>>>
>>> Maybe she had the same agent as Denise Crosby, who made an equally stupid
>>> move (hope you got a lot of coin for Pet Sematary, Denise!).
>>>
>>> Forbes is a terrific actress, and was a delight in her short-lived stint on
>>> Homicide. But after such a dumb move, it's hard to root for her. As a
>>> friend of mine with a limited grasp of English is fond of saying: You've
>>> buttered your bread, now lie in it!
>>>
>>> Bo Raxo
>> She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
>>
>> I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left Trek
>> because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge pervert.
>
> Well, Braga clearly was trying to overcompensate for all sorts of
> shortcomings, but B&B didn't have much to do with DS9 anyway, which is why
> it was good.
You thought it was good? I thought it sucked dead donkey dicks myself. I
couldn't stand any of the character except for Colm Meany's O'Brien. I
didn't like Avery's always angry Sisko or the rest of the irritating
characters like Quark and Odo or the dribble of Bajoran religious stories.
I quit watching about season 3 when it was discontinued in my area and
haven't really seen many of the reruns on Spike where it seems hard to find.
Never saw but snippets of Voyager which looked worse.
All in all I don't see how being in it would have made Forbes career any
better than it is now. Really the swan song episode of her character in TNG
was pretty bad IMO.
--
Modesty: The gentle art of enhancing your charm by pretending not to be
aware of it.
-- Oliver Herford
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71533 ] |
Fr, 01 Juli 2005 23:56 |
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in article 010720051305057925%cmn-nospam [at] houston.rr.com, Mark Nobles at
cmn-nospam [at] houston.rr.com wrote on 7/1/05 1:04 PM:
> Elvis Gump <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote:
>
>> Mark Nobles at cmn-nospam [at] houston.rr.com wrote:
>>> Elvis Gump <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in searching
>>>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for I
>>>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth and
>>>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little Matrix;
>>>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like a lot of fun. Hope it makes it somewhere.
>>>
>>> It reminds me a bit of Bladerunner, even if it is set in present-day
>>> San Francisco Chinatown.
>>
>> The thing of the EX-COP eating NOODLES in the NEON CHINATOWN thing may have
>> had something to do with it.
>
> Yeah, there was that wasn't there? Plus the "time to die" moment at the
> end.
>>
>>> And it shares something with The Inside and The 4400, and is very much
>>> an improvement over most Trek, in that there is not an easy answer and
>>> a happy ending. Great things are accomplished, but they have a cost.
>>
>>> I am getting tired, though, of seeing groups of commandos, in full
>>> combat dress including helmets and vests, shooting up empty elevators.
>>> It has been done. Nothing to see there, time to move along. Plus, these
>>> guys shouldn't be shooting until they identify a target.
>>
>> Yeah. There's a jpg scan of a comic book version of this origin story that
>> came with the file I downloaded where you can see the picked and discarded
>> the idea for their script from - The Matrix like break-in was NOT part of
>> the comic's idea. But that's Hollywood for ya. If there's a good producer
>> maybe some of those inane impulses would be overcome.
>
> I liked the rest of the break in. Just that one part has been beaten to
> death and is still being beaten.
That the crap that is cyberpunk for ya.
> In fact, I liked the show better than the part of the comic that's
> there on the web site.
>> I haven't had time to read up on the production since I posted the link, been
>> busy trying to buy a house!
>
> The website I saw for the comic didn't have anything about the show.
> <http://www.globalfrequency.org/>
I never heard of either before I ran across the BoingBoing.net blurb about
the show and haven't seen the website.
--
"Many words and expressions which only a matter of decades ago were
considered so distastefully explicit that, were they merely to be breathed
in public, the perpetrator would be shunned, barred from polite society, and
in extreme cases shot through the lungs, are now thought to be very healthy
and proper, and their use in everyday speech and writing is evidence of a
well-adjusted, relaxed and totally unfucked-up personality."
-- Douglas Adams
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71535 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 00:22 |
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
news:BEEAF53B.3DB14%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
> in article Svgxe.1845939$Xk.378330 [at] pd7tw3no, Kweeg at kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca
> wrote on 7/1/05 12:07 PM:
>
> > "ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:BEEACD85.3D42F%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
> >> in article BEEAC1FE.748BF%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us, Elvis Gump at
> >> elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us wrote on 7/1/05 7:48 AM:
> >>
> >>> in article 1F7xe.2497$8f7.2324 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo
Raxo
> > at
> >>> invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/1/05 4:02 AM:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> >>>> news:BEE676A5.74729%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> >>>>> Any fans of TNG alum Michelle Forbes will be very interested in
> > searching
> >>>>> out a bittorrent of "Global Frequency", an unsold, unaired pilot for
I
> >>>>> believe the WB that was rejected - so far - though the word of mouth
> > and
> >>>>> downloads might change that. It's a little X-Files-ish, a little
> > Matrix;
> >>>>> really it's a bit of a lot of things.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Michelle Forbes, who turned down a role as a regular on DS9 because
she
> > was
> >>>> destined to have a big career in film. One role in a major film
> > (Kalifornia)
> >>>> and then pffffft!
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe she had the same agent as Denise Crosby, who made an equally
> > stupid
> >>>> move (hope you got a lot of coin for Pet Sematary, Denise!).
> >>>>
> >>>> Forbes is a terrific actress, and was a delight in her short-lived
> > stint on
> >>>> Homicide. But after such a dumb move, it's hard to root for her. As
a
> >>>> friend of mine with a limited grasp of English is fond of saying:
> > You've
> >>>> buttered your bread, now lie in it!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bo Raxo
> >>>
> >>> She was good on Homicide Life on the Streets while that gig lasted.
> >>>
> >>> I have a suspicion that Denise Crosby and Michelle might have left
Trek
> >>> because Berman was an asshole and Braga was reputed to be a huge
> > pervert.
> >>
> >> Well, Braga clearly was trying to overcompensate for all sorts of
> >> shortcomings, but B&B didn't have much to do with DS9 anyway, which is
why
> >> it was good.
> >
> > Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory bubble, but Rick Berman had as
much to
> > do with DS9 as he did with Voyager and Enterprise. DS9 was better
because it
> > had better writers, like Ron Moore for example.
>
> Except of course for the part where you are totally, and easily provably,
> wrong. Start by seeing how many DS9 eps Berman has a writing credit on.
>
> DS9 had better writers, yes, because Braga and Berman weren't hands on
with
> it.
So what part of "Executive Producer" for TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise
don't you understand? Think now, and maybe do a bit of reading, before you
respond so you don't come off sounding like a *complete* ass.
--
Qa'pla
Kweeg
Ten of Clubs in the eeeevil Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71557 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 04:33 |
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> Except of course for the part where you are totally, and easily provably,
> wrong. Start by seeing how many DS9 eps Berman has a writing credit on.
> DS9 had better writers, yes, because Braga and Berman weren't hands on
with
> it.
Kweeg wrote
So what part of "Executive Producer" for TNG, DS9, Voyager and
Enterprise
don't you understand? Think now, and maybe do a bit of reading, before
you
respond so you don't come off sounding like a *complete* ass.
>>>>>>>>>>>
Methinks the fat little Klingon ought to look in his mirror.
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71567 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 07:43 |
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in article 1120271613.873668.101080 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Led4Aces
at Led4acs [at] aol.com wrote on 7/1/05 7:33 PM:
>> Except of course for the part where you are totally, and easily provably,
>> wrong. Start by seeing how many DS9 eps Berman has a writing credit on.
>
>
>> DS9 had better writers, yes, because Braga and Berman weren't hands on
> with
>> it.
>
>
> Kweeg wrote
> So what part of "Executive Producer" for TNG, DS9, Voyager and
> Enterprise
> don't you understand? Think now, and maybe do a bit of reading, before
> you
> respond so you don't come off sounding like a *complete* ass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Methinks the fat little Klingon ought to look in his mirror.
>
Yeah, there's a PKB and a plonk in there for Kweeg. I mean, if he was right
about ANY of his facts, maybe his attitude would be warranted. Hell, if he
even understood the posts he was replying to. But massive ignorance
combined with 'tude just makes him not worth our condescending to bother
with.
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71569 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 11:59 |
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
news:BEEB779C.40CC2%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
> in article 1120271613.873668.101080 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Led4Aces
> at Led4acs [at] aol.com wrote on 7/1/05 7:33 PM:
>
> >> Except of course for the part where you are totally, and easily
provably,
> >> wrong. Start by seeing how many DS9 eps Berman has a writing credit
on.
> >
> >
> >> DS9 had better writers, yes, because Braga and Berman weren't hands on
> > with
> >> it.
> >
> >
> > Kweeg wrote
> > So what part of "Executive Producer" for TNG, DS9, Voyager and
> > Enterprise
> > don't you understand? Think now, and maybe do a bit of reading, before
> > you
> > respond so you don't come off sounding like a *complete* ass.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > Methinks the fat little Klingon ought to look in his mirror.
> >
>
> Yeah, there's a PKB and a plonk in there for Kweeg. I mean, if he was
right
> about ANY of his facts, maybe his attitude would be warranted. Hell, if
he
> even understood the posts he was replying to. But massive ignorance
> combined with 'tude just makes him not worth our condescending to bother
> with.
So you replied, good one. Have fun with your troll buddies.
--
Qa ' PLONK
Kweeg
Ten of Clubs in the eeeevil Cabal
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71575 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 16:04 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tAtxe.1852429$6l.315622 [at] pd7tw2no...
> "ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
> news:BEEB779C.40CC2%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
> > in article 1120271613.873668.101080 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
Led4Aces
> > at Led4acs [at] aol.com wrote on 7/1/05 7:33 PM:
> >
> > >> Except of course for the part where you are totally, and easily
> provably,
> > >> wrong. Start by seeing how many DS9 eps Berman has a writing credit
> on.
> > >
> > >
> > >> DS9 had better writers, yes, because Braga and Berman weren't hands
on
> > > with
> > >> it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kweeg wrote
> > > So what part of "Executive Producer" for TNG, DS9, Voyager and
> > > Enterprise
> > > don't you understand? Think now, and maybe do a bit of reading, before
> > > you
> > > respond so you don't come off sounding like a *complete* ass.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > > Methinks the fat little Klingon ought to look in his mirror.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, there's a PKB and a plonk in there for Kweeg. I mean, if he was
> right
> > about ANY of his facts, maybe his attitude would be warranted. Hell, if
> he
> > even understood the posts he was replying to. But massive ignorance
> > combined with 'tude just makes him not worth our condescending to bother
> > with.
>
> So you replied, good one. Have fun with your troll buddies.
>
> --
> Qa ' PLONK
A conclusion I came to over a year ago. Good move.
Have another mug. :)
> Kweeg
> Ten of Clubs in the eeeevil Cabal
>
>
>
>
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| Japanese Star Trek Art [message #71579 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 18:39 |
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Thought this might be of interest.
http://woodblock.com/star_trek/
--
"Of course I believe that solipsism is the correct philosophy, but that's
only one man's opinion."
-- Melvin Fitting
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71580 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 19:05 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEEB25BE.74921%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> in article BEEACD85.3D42F%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net, ANIM8Rfsk at
ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net
> wrote on 7/1/05 12:37 PM:
>
> >
> > Well, Braga clearly was trying to overcompensate for all sorts of
> > shortcomings, but B&B didn't have much to do with DS9 anyway, which is
why
> > it was good.
>
> You thought it was good? I thought it sucked dead donkey dicks myself. I
> couldn't stand any of the character except for Colm Meany's O'Brien. I
> didn't like Avery's always angry Sisko or the rest of the irritating
> characters like Quark and Odo or the dribble of Bajoran religious stories.
>
> I quit watching about season 3 when it was discontinued in my area and
> haven't really seen many of the reruns on Spike where it seems hard to
find.
> Never saw but snippets of Voyager which looked worse.
>
DS9 started with a great pilot and went steadily down hill it's first few
seasons. I pretty much gave up on it in season 3.
By season 5 it had gotten much, much better. It was practically a
completely different show. There was still the occaisonal clunker of an Odo
story but all in all it was quite good. I highly recommend the last couple
of seasons, it was really quality sci-fi.
> All in all I don't see how being in it would have made Forbes career any
> better than it is now.
I don't know about her career, but I'm pretty sure her bank account would be
much better off. Seven years of steady paychecks and a lifetime of residual
checks, you can bet she's kicking herself for missing that gravy train.
>Really the swan song episode of her character in TNG
> was pretty bad IMO.
The script needed some polishing, and the directing was less than stellar,
but I thought it was pretty good. Rebel rebel, you tore your dress, as the
song says. The story of her loyalty to her mentor (and Stewart played
Picard as a father figure to the hilt), set against her strong feelings of
patritism/ethnicity, that's a great conflict, a natural human situation the
audience could relate to. Unlike, say, tales of Bajoran mysticism and a
shapeshifter's feelings of alienation from the other shapeshifters.
Bo Raxo
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| Re: Japanese Star Trek Art [message #71582 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 19:25 |
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Elvis Gump wrote:
> Thought this might be of interest.
> http://woodblock.com/star_trek/
Thanks for the link.
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71584 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 20:16 |
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:54:22 GMT, Elvis Gump <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us>
wrote:
>All in all I don't see how being in it would have made Forbes career any
>better than it is now. Really the swan song episode of her character in TNG
>was pretty bad IMO.
It may not have enhanced her career, but I daresay it would have enhanced
her bank account ..
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71585 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 20:42 |
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in article yPzxe.3028$8f7.1694 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/2/05 12:05 PM:
> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> news:BEEB25BE.74921%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>> in article BEEACD85.3D42F%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net, ANIM8Rfsk at
> ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net
>> wrote on 7/1/05 12:37 PM:
>>> Well, Braga clearly was trying to overcompensate for all sorts of
>>> shortcomings, but B&B didn't have much to do with DS9 anyway, which is why
>>> it was good.
>> You thought it was good? I thought it sucked dead donkey dicks myself. I
>> couldn't stand any of the character except for Colm Meany's O'Brien. I
>> didn't like Avery's always angry Sisko or the rest of the irritating
>> characters like Quark and Odo or the dribble of Bajoran religious stories.
>>
>> I quit watching about season 3 when it was discontinued in my area and
>> haven't really seen many of the reruns on Spike where it seems hard to find.
>> Never saw but snippets of Voyager which looked worse.
> DS9 started with a great pilot and went steadily down hill it's first few
> seasons. I pretty much gave up on it in season 3.
>
> By season 5 it had gotten much, much better. It was practically a
> completely different show. There was still the occaisonal clunker of an Odo
> story but all in all it was quite good. I highly recommend the last couple
> of seasons, it was really quality sci-fi.
I dunno about that. I caught some episodes when it first came on Spike. For
a while they were playing all the episodes from the beginning in order and I
would let them play on the tv in the computer room while I worked half
watching them from the corner of my eye. They have not improved with time to
me. The only one I remembered that I liked was the one where everyone on the
station is acting mucho strange to O'Brien to the point of treason and he
flees for his life trying to stop an assassination and it turns out he was a
clone all along, made so well that the clone had all O'Brien's sense of
loyalty and duty. That was a fun sci-fi switcharoo.
Then one day Spike seemed to jump ahead a few seasons and I was lost
completely since there's apparently a lot of new characters later in the
show when Worf is on. I finally saw the Tribulations bit and the novelty of
it was nice but it was instantly forgettable otherwise.
Then Spike replaced it's timeslot with CSI reruns and moved it all around
the schedule and I quickly forgot about DS9 and don't miss it. I saw some
bit where they lost the station to the Cardassians, there was some awesome
armada FX of a fleet going to get the place back and then it kinda fast
forwarded to a quickie victory like they had gone "Oh shit there went the FX
budget" while they were in the middle of making it.
I just wasn't impressed. I thought the cast was poor and the plot of them
sitting around a space station dull. I grew up around psycho 'religious'
Southern Baptists and suffered a few years of living around the fake
spiritual mumbo-jumbo of whacko cult-ish Californians so the
pseudo-religious Bajoran stuff made my teeth grind. What was that joke from
Woody Allen - "fake commentary by dysentery"?
I thought the whole Bajoran religious thing was worse than odious.
>> All in all I don't see how being in it would have made Forbes career any
>> better than it is now.
> I don't know about her career, but I'm pretty sure her bank account would be
> much better off. Seven years of steady paychecks and a lifetime of residual
> checks, you can bet she's kicking herself for missing that gravy train.
Well, maybe. Maybe the name Forbes means she's connected to the other richer
Forbes family for all I know and money was never a problem to begin with. Or
maybe she has enough money to suit her.
Then again, how much of a gravy train could the residuals of DS9 be at this
point? Are the actors showing up at those Cons because they love the fans
that much or do they need the cash?
I mean have ya seen the fat, loony fucks that go to Trek conventions?
>> Really the swan song episode of her character in TNG
>> was pretty bad IMO.
> The script needed some polishing, and the directing was less than stellar,
> but I thought it was pretty good. Rebel rebel, you tore your dress, as the
> song says. The story of her loyalty to her mentor (and Stewart played
> Picard as a father figure to the hilt), set against her strong feelings of
> patritism/ethnicity, that's a great conflict, a natural human situation the
> audience could relate to. Unlike, say, tales of Bajoran mysticism and a
> shapeshifter's feelings of alienation from the other shapeshifters.
> Bo Raxo
Ack, that season of TNG was the beginning of the long goodbye for Trek to
me. TNG had a brief, shining moment of glory when there were some writers
around that could come up with more than the retread of a ghost of a plot or
an idea for a character that wasn't all tits and lycra. That whole Ro swan
song plot marched up Fifth Ave firing off howitzers it was so obvious and
tired. As was really almost all of season 6 and 7 of TNG. By then the spark
was gone.
And it's been shit ever since.
--
"I don't necessarily agree with everything I say."
-- Marshall McLuhan
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| Re: Japanese Star Trek Art [message #71586 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 20:48 |
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in article 11cdjgep65tt986 [at] news.supernews.com, ToolPackinMama at
laura [at] lauragoodwin.org wrote on 7/2/05 12:25 PM:
> Elvis Gump wrote:
>> Thought this might be of interest.
>> http://woodblock.com/star_trek/
> Thanks for the link.
I clicked around the links in that thing a bit and there's one that comes up
for some page all in Japanese with a ton of Japanese book covers. It's sort
of surreal to me because I had never seen covers of Trek translated like
that even though I knew that it's popular to some extent the whole world
round.
--
"I've been trying for some time to develop a lifestyle that doesn't require
my presence."
-- Gary Trudeau
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| Re: Japanese Star Trek Art [message #71587 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 20:50 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEEC2D7F.749BC%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> Thought this might be of interest.
> http://woodblock.com/star_trek/
Cool. Thanks for the link.
--
Qa'pla
Kweeg
Ten of Clubs in the eeeevil Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71588 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 20:56 |
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:43:40 -0700, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net>
wrote:
>in article 1120271613.873668.101080 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Led4Aces
>at Led4acs [at] aol.com wrote on 7/1/05 7:33 PM:
>
>>> Except of course for the part where you are totally, and easily provably,
>>> wrong. Start by seeing how many DS9 eps Berman has a writing credit on.
>>
>>
>>> DS9 had better writers, yes, because Braga and Berman weren't hands on
>> with
>>> it.
>>
>>
>> Kweeg wrote
>> So what part of "Executive Producer" for TNG, DS9, Voyager and
>> Enterprise
>> don't you understand? Think now, and maybe do a bit of reading, before
>> you
>> respond so you don't come off sounding like a *complete* ass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> Methinks the fat little Klingon ought to look in his mirror.
>>
>
>Yeah, there's a PKB and a plonk in there for Kweeg. I mean, if he was right
>about ANY of his facts, maybe his attitude would be warranted.
He's right that Berman is credited as "executive producer" of Deep
Space Nine. Of course I don't know how hands-on he was. Of course
that was before he burned out anyway.
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| Re: Japanese Star Trek Art [message #71589 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 20:56 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:11cdjgep65tt986 [at] news.supernews.com...
> Elvis Gump wrote:
>> Thought this might be of interest.
>> http://woodblock.com/star_trek/
>
> Thanks for the link.
Indeed! The art is amazing.
It also brings up a great social comparison I never thought of before. Kirk
as Shogun / Samurai hybrid - maybe this is what the Japanese saw when they
began their interests in Star Trek. Honor, loyalty, fairness, Kirk showing
leadership yet always bending to his own mission given by higher power. All
the great values of classical Japanese literature is also in Star Trek,
simply set in the most fantastic universe of the 23rd century. Mind bending
adventures with a foundation in the value of classical literature that the
Japanese could also connect with. These values transcend individual
societies, for all the great works across many social constructs and
millennia have them, and they can strike a chord with any person of high
intellect.
Actually, it would have been fun to have been in Japan to see such a
reaction - it is most telling of a society's inner drive when they first get
"turned on" to an outside force.
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| Re: Japanese Star Trek Art [message #71590 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 21:02 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEEC4BA2.749D6%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> I clicked around the links in that thing a bit and there's one that comes
> up
> for some page all in Japanese with a ton of Japanese book covers. It's
> sort
> of surreal to me because I had never seen covers of Trek translated like
> that even though I knew that it's popular to some extent the whole world
> round.
As nice as the cover art is, it is the black & whites that really get me.
They are SO expressive! Look at the Kirk meeting the uniformed officer and
Kirk with Uhura. Awesome! I'd own a limited print of those anyday.
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71591 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 21:16 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEEC4A46.749D4%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>
> I dunno about that. I caught some episodes when it first came on Spike.
For
> a while they were playing all the episodes from the beginning in order and
I
> would let them play on the tv in the computer room while I worked half
> watching them from the corner of my eye. They have not improved with time
to
> me. The only one I remembered that I liked was the one where everyone on
the
> station is acting mucho strange to O'Brien to the point of treason and he
> flees for his life trying to stop an assassination and it turns out he was
a
> clone all along, made so well that the clone had all O'Brien's sense of
> loyalty and duty. That was a fun sci-fi switcharoo.
That was a great episode. Colm Meany is a terrific actor, he really sold
it, especially the final scene.
>
> Then one day Spike seemed to jump ahead a few seasons and I was lost
> completely since there's apparently a lot of new characters later in the
> show when Worf is on. I finally saw the Tribulations bit and the novelty
of
> it was nice but it was instantly forgettable otherwise.
>
It was a talky show, you really had to pay attention. There were some
terrific ideas in there, like how far would you go to gain an advantage in a
war? Or the one where Sisko, Dax and Bashir were thrown back to mid 21st
century San Francisco and Sisko had to fill in for an historical figure -
great sci-fi, and a terrific commentary on the widening difference between
haves and have-nots in a country where income distribution becomes more and
more unequal.
>
> I just wasn't impressed. I thought the cast was poor and the plot of them
> sitting around a space station dull.
It was a terrible premise. Notice how they added the Defiant so they could
get off the station.
> I thought the whole Bajoran religious thing was worse than odious.
>
I'm with you there. And un-Star-Trekish, stupid from a ratings standpoint,
and poor storytelling. Am I really going to care about some mumbo-jumbo
from a television writer's sketchy take on a fictional religion?!?
>
> Then again, how much of a gravy train could the residuals of DS9 be at
this
> point? Are the actors showing up at those Cons because they love the fans
> that much or do they need the cash?
>
Performers love an audience, and I suspect a lot of them don't have much to
do. So the size of the residual checks may not matter to whether they show
up. I mean, I've seen Jonathan Frakes at a Trek convention. Between what
he earned, and the big money his wife the soap opera actress pulled in, I
really doubt he needed the money. The guy seemed to really enjoy the
adulation of the crowd, answering questions enthusiastically and just
seeming to have a ball.
> I mean have ya seen the fat, loony fucks that go to Trek conventions?
>
We prefer "stocky" and "offbeat", thank you ;]
>
> Ack, that season of TNG was the beginning of the long goodbye for Trek to
> me. TNG had a brief, shining moment of glory when there were some writers
> around that could come up with more than the retread of a ghost of a plot
or
> an idea for a character that wasn't all tits and lycra. That whole Ro swan
> song plot marched up Fifth Ave firing off howitzers it was so obvious and
> tired. As was really almost all of season 6 and 7 of TNG. By then the
spark
> was gone.
I thought the real problem was they stopped stealing...I mean,
mining...classic literature and movies for story permises. Many of the best
TNG scripts from the prime years of seasons 3, 4, and 5 were directly ripped
off from literature and cinema; I'm sure for you it wasn't hard to spot the
origins of many of those stories. But we still enjoyed them.
But they went high concept, and often had nothing past the concept. Look,
the ship is developing sentience, and it's all represented by this wacky
train on the holodeck! Vaguely Latin artifacts start appearing around the
ship, and Data loses his mind! Lots concept, not very good in the execution.
>
> And it's been shit ever since.
Let's see: Voyager, Enterprise...you are the Elvis of understatement.
Bo Raxo
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in article aKBxe.85$BK1.48 [at] newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/2/05 2:16 PM:
> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> news:BEEC4A46.749D4%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>>
>> I dunno about that. I caught some episodes when it first came on Spike. For a
>> while they were playing all the episodes from the beginning in order and I
>> would let them play on the tv in the computer room while I worked half
>> watching them from the corner of my eye. They have not improved with time to
>> me. The only one I remembered that I liked was the one where everyone on the
>> station is acting mucho strange to O'Brien to the point of treason and he
>> flees for his life trying to stop an assassination and it turns out he was a
>> clone all along, made so well that the clone had all O'Brien's sense of
>> loyalty and duty. That was a fun sci-fi switcharoo.
> That was a great episode. Colm Meany is a terrific actor, he really sold it,
> especially the final scene.
Pity they only made him a Chief in TNG. Maybe they should have killed of
Sisko in the first episode and had O'Brien leading a rag tag group of
survivors from the station to a mythical refuge called - Earth.
Hey-! -Shit, never mind...
>> Then one day Spike seemed to jump ahead a few seasons and I was lost
>> completely since there's apparently a lot of new characters later in the show
>> when Worf is on. I finally saw the Tribulations bit and the novelty of it was
>> nice but it was instantly forgettable otherwise.
> It was a talky show, you really had to pay attention. There were some terrific
> ideas in there, like how far would you go to gain an advantage in a war? Or
> the one where Sisko, Dax and Bashir were thrown back to mid 21st century San
> Francisco and Sisko had to fill in for an historical figure - great sci-fi,
> and a terrific commentary on the widening difference between haves and
> have-nots in a country where income distribution becomes more and more
> unequal.
Heh, like that could -ever- happen in a country like Amerika.
I remember seeing that one dimly. To me it seemed like a crummy cross
between "First Contact" movie and CotEoF.
At least they didn't find a shuttlecraft in some bungalow garage in some LA
suburb and a VHS last will and testament from Captain Decker...
>> I just wasn't impressed. I thought the cast was poor and the plot of them
>> sitting around a space station dull.
> It was a terrible premise. Notice how they added the Defiant so they could get
> off the station.
And like all of the runabouts and the station model it looked terrible.
>> I thought the whole Bajoran religious thing was worse than odious.
> I'm with you there. And un-Star-Trekish, stupid from a ratings standpoint, and
> poor storytelling. Am I really going to care about some mumbo-jumbo from a
> television writer's sketchy take on a fictional religion?!?
Maybe they hoped to horn in on another sci-fi writers religion in a
scientological way? I hear there's some money in pulling a religion about
aliens out of your ass and getting celebrities to believe in it.
>> Then again, how much of a gravy train could the residuals of DS9 be at this
>> point? Are the actors showing up at those Cons because they love the fans
>> that much or do they need the cash?
> Performers love an audience, and I suspect a lot of them don't have much to
> do. So the size of the residual checks may not matter to whether they show
> up. I mean, I've seen Jonathan Frakes at a Trek convention. Between what he
> earned, and the big money his wife the soap opera actress pulled in, I really
> doubt he needed the money. The guy seemed to really enjoy the adulation of
> the crowd, answering questions enthusiastically and just seeming to have a
> ball.
I saw a few minutes of "Thunderbirds" on cable and wondered for just a
second about Frakes sanity and then if in Hollywood they have some sort of
ceremony like in the beginning of the old TV show "Branded" where when you
make a movie so shameful they strip you of everything and kick your ass out.
But then I thought about Lucas and Spielberg and the later works of Ridley
Scott and said "Nah!"...
>> I mean have ya seen the fat, loony fucks that go to Trek conventions?
> We prefer "stocky" and "offbeat", thank you ;]
Nothing about the show ever inspired me to want to play dress up. If I
looked as bad as most of the people in the "Trekkies" movies look in spandex
I'd hide at home.
Still in the vein of saying something nice which I rarely do I still haven't
seen a dress-up Trek nerd as scary looking as the Tron guy. I mean DAMN!
What's worse than that guy? Goatse man?
>> Ack, that season of TNG was the beginning of the long goodbye for Trek to me.
>> TNG had a brief, shining moment of glory when there were some writers around
>> that could come up with more than the retread of a ghost of a plot or an idea
>> for a character that wasn't all tits and lycra. That whole Ro swan song plot
>> marched up Fifth Ave firing off howitzers it was so obvious and tired. As was
>> really almost all of season 6 and 7 of TNG. By then the spark was gone.
> I thought the real problem was they stopped stealing...I mean,
> mining...classic literature and movies for story permises. Many of the best
> TNG scripts from the prime years of seasons 3, 4, and 5 were directly ripped
> off from literature and cinema; I'm sure for you it wasn't hard to spot the
> origins of many of those stories. But we still enjoyed them.
Well, yeah, a good point. At least TNG did -something- worth watching though
even when it was firing on all cylinders it had goofy moments. I recall when
I bent over instantly laughing at the name "Locutus" and said "I guess
'Loquacious' would have been too obvious!" my pals watching it with me went
"Huh?" It's a given that it isn't too hard to repackage something old, add
laser beams and astound an audience who has a standard issue 'education'.
> But they went high concept, and often had nothing past the concept. Look,
> the ship is developing sentience, and it's all represented by this wacky
> train on the holodeck! Vaguely Latin artifacts start appearing around the
> ship, and Data loses his mind! Lots concept, not very good in the execution.
It's the fatigue of producing 'product' instead of stories.
>> And it's been shit ever since.
>
> Let's see: Voyager, Enterprise...you are the Elvis of understatement.
>
> Bo Raxo
Thankyaveramuch
--
"Talking about music is like dancing about architecture."
-- Laurie Anderson
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| Re: Japanese Star Trek Art [message #71594 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 22:11 |
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in article urBxe.2319$vu5.2295 [at] trndny08, Snake at
fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.IHATESPAM.SPAM_VAC.com wrote on 7/2/05
1:56 PM:
> "ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
> news:11cdjgep65tt986 [at] news.supernews.com...
>> Elvis Gump wrote:
>>> Thought this might be of interest.
>>> http://woodblock.com/star_trek/
>>
>> Thanks for the link.
You're welcome all. BoingBoing.net is a group blog thing where I found it
that has lots of interesting links this Trek fans might like.
> Indeed! The art is amazing.
>
> It also brings up a great social comparison I never thought of before. Kirk
> as Shogun / Samurai hybrid - maybe this is what the Japanese saw when they
> began their interests in Star Trek. Honor, loyalty, fairness, Kirk showing
> leadership yet always bending to his own mission given by higher power. All
> the great values of classical Japanese literature is also in Star Trek,
> simply set in the most fantastic universe of the 23rd century. Mind bending
> adventures with a foundation in the value of classical literature that the
> Japanese could also connect with. These values transcend individual
> societies, for all the great works across many social constructs and
> millennia have them, and they can strike a chord with any person of high
> intellect.
>
> Actually, it would have been fun to have been in Japan to see such a
> reaction - it is most telling of a society's inner drive when they first get
> "turned on" to an outside force.
A good point.
I would have loved to have seen that short story from the book "The New
Voyages" from back in the 1970s which I think was called "The Face on the
Bar Room Floor" where Kirk sees a samurai get-up in a store window that Sulu
admires but Kirk poo-poos with a where would you wear it and then later buys
it himself, wears it, gets in a bar fight, arrested and almost gets left
behind when Enterprise can't find him for hours. It was a hilarious read and
I so could have seen it as a great Trek episode.
The Japanese would have probably been gaga over that one.
--
"It usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech."
-- Mark Twain
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71595 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 22:35 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEEC5DA3.749F3%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> in article aKBxe.85$BK1.48 [at] newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
> invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/2/05 2:16 PM:
>
>
> > That was a great episode. Colm Meany is a terrific actor, he really
sold it,
> > especially the final scene.
>
> Pity they only made him a Chief in TNG. Maybe they should have killed of
> Sisko in the first episode and had O'Brien leading a rag tag group of
> survivors from the station to a mythical refuge called - Earth.
>
> Hey-! -Shit, never mind...
>
Deep Space 1980 - check out those warp cycles!
>
> I remember seeing that one dimly. To me it seemed like a crummy cross
> between "First Contact" movie and CotEoF.
CotEoF? Don't get the reference. Coto's Ending of the Franchise?
>
> Maybe they hoped to horn in on another sci-fi writers religion in a
> scientological way? I hear there's some money in pulling a religion about
> aliens out of your ass and getting celebrities to believe in it.
LMAO!!! Thanks for making me "clear" on that one.
>
> >> I mean have ya seen the fat, loony fucks that go to Trek conventions?
>
> > We prefer "stocky" and "offbeat", thank you ;]
>
> Nothing about the show ever inspired me to want to play dress up. If I
> looked as bad as most of the people in the "Trekkies" movies look in
spandex
> I'd hide at home.
I never dressed up for one, and I haven't been to one in about 12 years.
But I'll tell you something that you may find hard to believe, I wouldn't
believe it if I hadn't witnessed it: there were a fair number of attractive
women at these things. I mean, not a lot, certainly there was a gender
imbalance. But I've seen nightclubs with a lower percentage of attractive
women in the crowd.
Yeah, I know, I'm going to the wrong clubs.
One I attended with a friend's small child in tow (so I wouldn't look like
such a damn geek going to the thing; well, that and he was a terrific kid).
You want to meet smart, attractive women, turns out taking a cute little kid
to a Star Trek convention works really well.
Yeah, I know, I am shameless.
Bo Raxo
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| Re: Global Frequency [message #71597 ] |
Sa, 02 Juli 2005 22:51 |
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in article IUCxe.185$BK1.9 [at] newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/2/05 3:35 PM:
>
> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> news:BEEC5DA3.749F3%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>> in article aKBxe.85$BK1.48 [at] newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
>> invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 7/2/05 2:16 PM:
>>> That was a great episode. Colm Meany is a terrific actor, he really sold
>>> it, especially the final scene.
>> Pity they only made him a Chief in TNG. Maybe they should have killed of
>> Sisko in the first episode and had O'Brien leading a rag tag group of
>> survivors from the station to a mythical refuge called - Earth.
>>
>> Hey-! -Shit, never mind...
> Deep Space 1980 - check out those warp cycles!
And remember kids there was a moral to this story. Wasn't there?
>> I remember seeing that one dimly. To me it seemed like a crummy cross between
>> "First Contact" movie and CotEoF.
>>
> CotEoF? Don't get the reference. Coto's Ending of the Franchise?
City on the Edge of Forever (and ever and ever)
>> Maybe they hoped to horn in on another sci-fi writers religion in a
>> scientological way? I hear there's some money in pulling a religion about
>> aliens out of your ass and getting celebrities to believe in it.
> LMAO!!! Thanks for making me "clear" on that one.
I Am Joe's Body Thetans.
>>>> I mean have ya seen the fat, loony fucks that go to Trek conventions?
>>> We prefer "stocky" and "offbeat", thank you ;]
>> Nothing about the show ever inspired me to want to play dress up. If I looked
>> as bad as most of the people in the "Trekkies" movies look in spandex I'd
>> hide at home.
> I never dressed up for one, and I haven't been to one in about 12 years. But
> I'll tell you something that you may find hard to believe, I wouldn't believe
> it if I hadn't witnessed it: there were a fair number of attractive women at
> these things. I mean, not a lot, certainly there was a gender imbalance. But
> I've seen nightclubs with a lower percentage of attractive women in the crowd.
>
> Yeah, I know, I'm going to the wrong clubs.
Uh, yeah. Definitely.
> One I attended with a friend's small child in tow (so I wouldn't look like
> such a damn geek going to the thing; well, that and he was a terrific kid).
> You want to meet smart, attractive women, turns out taking a cute little kid
> to a Star Trek convention works really well.
>
> Yeah, I know, I am shameless.
> Bo Raxo
Well I already have a smart attractive woman and never had any trouble
meeting them.
When - ever - I - do - my - Cap'n - Kirk for a laugh though she says that's
the reason why Trek nerds don't get any and I'm pretty sure that's spot on
the problem for most Trekkers.
FOX NEWS ALERT! Cap'n Kirk is NOT a role model for picking up chicks.
Well maybe for picking up TPM, though I'm sure I don't want to know the
details on that one... (shudder)
--
"Hard work never killed anybody, but why take a chance?"
-- Edgar Bergen
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Mo, 04 Juli 2005 16:59 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEEC6857.74A02%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
>
>
> When - ever - I - do - my - Cap'n - Kirk for a laugh though she says
that's
> the reason why Trek nerds don't get any and I'm pretty sure that's spot on
> the problem for most Trekkers.
>
> FOX NEWS ALERT! Cap'n Kirk is NOT a role model for picking up chicks.
>
No, the role model for picking up chicks is Spock. Cool, unruffled,
seemingly uninterested in anything but her mind, that act has been very,
very good to me.
> Well maybe for picking up TPM, though I'm sure I don't want to know the
> details on that one... (shudder)
The only way to pick her up is with a straight jacket and a court order for
her involuntary psychiatric commitment. And find a therapist who really
likes a challenge.
Bo Raxo
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| US aims Star Trek ray guns at nuclear sites [message #73438 ] |
Di, 05 Juli 2005 20:09 |
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Ya can't make this shit up!
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139292/aims-star-trek-ray -guns-nuclear
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
US AIMS STAR TREK RAY GUNS AT NUCLEAR SITES
Phasers on stun
Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 05 Jul 2005
US scientists have unveiled details of a project that aims to develop Star
Trek-style ray guns that could keep "security adversaries" out of Department
of Energy (DoE) nuclear sites.
The DoE Office of Security and Safety Performance Assurance, together with
the Department of Defense, is "exploring the potential" of directed energy
weapons based on millimetre-wave rays.
Dubbed Active Denial Technology (ADT), the systems are an emerging class of
non-lethal weaponry using 95GHz millimetre-wave directed energy.
According to the DoE the technology is capable of rapidly heating human skin
to a pain level that has been demonstrated as "very effective at repelling
people" without apparently burning the skin or causing other secondary
effects.
ADT emits a 95GHz non-ionizing electromagnetic beam of energy that
penetrates approximately 1/64 of an inch into human skin tissue, where nerve
receptors are concentrated.
Within seconds, the beam will heat the exposed skin tissue to a level where
intolerable pain is experienced and natural defence mechanisms take over.
This intense heating sensation stops only if the individual moves out of the
beam's path or the beam is turned off.
The sensation caused by the system has been described by test subjects as
feeling like touching a hot frying pan or the intense radiant heat from a
fire. Burn injury is prevented by limiting the beam's intensity and
duration.
Sandia National Laboratories, a National Nuclear Security Administration
lab, will investigate how the technology can be used on "adversaries" by
developing a small ADT system to protect US nuclear sites.
To help solve the many technical issues associated with the project, Sandia
has partnered with Raytheon and the Air Force Research Laboratory as both
organisations have significant experience with earlier ADT developments.
In the mid 1990s the US Air Force funded development of an ADT prototype
which resulted in several ongoing projects, such as the Joint Non-Lethal
Weapons Directorate's Vehicle Mounted Active Denial System and the Office of
Force Transformation's project Sheriff.
In 2004, Sandia conducted simulations of how the smaller ADT system might be
used and how it would perform against "adversary attack scenarios" within a
nuclear facility using the Joint Conflict and Tactical Simulation software
modelling tool.
"Recently there has been significant progress with this project," said Willy
Morse, Sandia's principal investigator.
"On 5 May we took acceptance of a prototype system built by Raytheon's
Advanced Electromagnetic Technologies centre in partnership with CPI and
Malibu Research. Initial characterisation and performance tests were
completed at the end of May."
A second-generation small-size ADT system is expected to be fielded at
several DoE nuclear facilities as early as 2008.
Millimetre-wave "human effectiveness testing", initiated in 2001, has
demonstrated ADT as effective and safe without any long-term effects,
according to the Department of Defense.
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http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139292/aims-star-trek-ray -guns-nuclear
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"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but
they've always worked for me."
-- Hunter S. Thompson
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| Re: US aims Star Trek ray guns at nuclear sites [message #73439 ] |
Di, 05 Juli 2005 20:14 |
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On 05 Jul 2005, the world was enlightened by Elvis Gump's opinion about...
> Ya can't make this shit up!
>
> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139292/aims-star-trek-ray -guns-nuclear
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - US AIMS STAR TREK RAY GUNS AT NUCLEAR SITES
> Phasers on stun
> Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 05 Jul 2005
>
> US scientists have unveiled details of a project that aims to develop
> Star Trek-style ray guns that could keep "security adversaries" out of
> Department of Energy (DoE) nuclear sites.
>
> The DoE Office of Security and Safety Performance Assurance, together
> with the Department of Defense, is "exploring the potential" of directed
> energy weapons based on millimetre-wave rays.
>
> Dubbed Active Denial Technology (ADT), the systems are an emerging class
> of non-lethal weaponry using 95GHz millimetre-wave directed energy.
>
> According to the DoE the technology is capable of rapidly heating human
> skin to a pain level that has been demonstrated as "very effective at
> repelling people" without apparently burning the skin or causing other
> secondary effects.
>
> ADT emits a 95GHz non-ionizing electromagnetic beam of energy that
> penetrates approximately 1/64 of an inch into human skin tissue, where
> nerve receptors are concentrated.
>
> Within seconds, the beam will heat the exposed skin tissue to a level
> where intolerable pain is experienced and natural defence mechanisms
> take over.
>
> This intense heating sensation stops only if the individual moves out of
> the beam's path or the beam is turned off.
>
> The sensation caused by the system has been described by test subjects
> as feeling like touching a hot frying pan or the intense radiant heat
> from a fire. Burn injury is prevented by limiting the beam's intensity
> and duration.
>
> Sandia National Laboratories, a National Nuclear Security Administration
> lab, will investigate how the technology can be used on "adversaries" by
> developing a small ADT system to protect US nuclear sites.
>
> To help solve the many technical issues associated with the project,
> Sandia has partnered with Raytheon and the Air Force Research Laboratory
> as both organisations have significant experience with earlier ADT
> developments.
>
> In the mid 1990s the US Air Force funded development of an ADT prototype
> which resulted in several ongoing projects, such as the Joint Non-Lethal
> Weapons Directorate's Vehicle Mounted Active Denial System and the
> Office of Force Transformation's project Sheriff.
>
> In 2004, Sandia conducted simulations of how the smaller ADT system
> might be used and how it would perform against "adversary attack
> scenarios" within a nuclear facility using the Joint Conflict and
> Tactical Simulation software modelling tool.
>
> "Recently there has been significant progress with this project," said
> Willy Morse, Sandia's principal investigator.
>
> "On 5 May we took acceptance of a prototype system built by Raytheon's
> Advanced Electromagnetic Technologies centre in partnership with CPI and
> Malibu Research. Initial characterisation and performance tests were
> completed at the end of May."
>
> A second-generation small-size ADT system is expected to be fielded at
> several DoE nuclear facilities as early as 2008.
>
> Millimetre-wave "human effectiveness testing", initiated in 2001, has
> demonstrated ADT as effective and safe without any long-term effects,
> according to the Department of Defense.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> ---
> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139292/aims-star-trek-ray -guns-nuclear
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> --- "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone,
> but they've always worked for me."
> -- Hunter S. Thompson
>
>
Dammit Elvis! I was just gonna post that you farker you! :)
kev
--
Absolute zero is cool.
The Eeeevil Cabal's Nine of Spades.
Wickeddoll's on-demand übernerd.
"Kirk and Spock are heterosexual and nothing but - and that's the truth.
Period. End of Story." - ToolPackinMama, 21.06.2005
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| Re: US aims Star Trek ray guns at nuclear sites [message #73440 ] |
Di, 05 Juli 2005 20:51 |
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"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message news:BEF036FE.75E7B%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> Ya can't make this shit up!
>
> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139292/aims-star-trek-ray -guns-nuclear
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> US AIMS STAR TREK RAY GUNS AT NUCLEAR SITES
> Phasers on stun
> Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 05 Jul 2005
Finally
Set it to Kill and aim it at The Middle East
FIRE!!
fry all the camel jockey raghead fucks
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"Locutus" <Drone [at] Uni-MatrixOne.DeltaQuadrent> wrote in message
news:Bdedna--kZYWS1ffRVn-2A [at] rcn.net...
>
> "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:BEF036FE.75E7B%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> > Ya can't make this shit up!
> >
> >
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139292/aims-star-trek-ray -guns-nuclear
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > US AIMS STAR TREK RAY GUNS AT NUCLEAR SITES
> > Phasers on stun
> > Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 05 Jul 2005
>
>
> Finally
> Set it to Kill and aim it at The Middle East
>
> FIRE!!
>
> fry all the camel jockey raghead fucks
And some people wonder why they hate Americans....
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Qa'pla
Kweeg
Ten of Clubs in the eeeevil Cabal
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| Re: US aims Star Trek ray guns at nuclear sites [message #73443 ] |
Di, 05 Juli 2005 21:52 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:2SAye.1871721$6l.1108478 [at] pd7tw2no...
> "Locutus" <Drone [at] Uni-MatrixOne.DeltaQuadrent> wrote in message
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> > "Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us> wrote in message
> news:BEF036FE.75E7B%elvisgump.NO [at] SPAM.fastmail.us...
> > > Ya can't make this shit up!
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> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139292/aims-star-trek-ray -guns-nuclear
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> > > US AIMS STAR TREK RAY GUNS AT NUCLEAR SITES
> > > Phasers on stun
> > > Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 05 Jul 2005
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> > Finally
> > Set it to Kill and aim it at The Middle East
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> > FIRE!!
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> > fry all the camel jockey raghead fucks
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> And some people wonder why they hate Americans....
Stupidity knows no nationality but this is a great example of the US
version.
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> Qa'pla
> Kweeg
> Ten of Clubs in the eeeevil Cabal
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| Re: US aims Star Trek ray guns at nuclear sites [message #73444 ] |
Di, 05 Juli 2005 21:32 |
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>> And some people wonder why they hate Americans....
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> Stupidity knows no nationality but this is a great example of the US
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to bad im from Denmark
i just live here
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