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Science Fiction » alt.fan.douglas-adams » Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979)
Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #420] Sa, 16 April 2005 07:07
Jet Black  
Been many many years since I posted here; and oddly enough, I believe
my question was somewhat similar.

I have all of the "Original Radio Series" CDs... and while wonderful
and extremely entertaining as they always are, when I was a child, the
first version I heard played to me was the LP Re-Recordings... which
to this day I have not been able to find again.

The series I heard was very similar, though some of the timings were
different, a few of the voices were different (Vroomfondel was not an
American) and some of the lines were slightly changed.

These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
versions of these recordings can be found?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #426 ] Sa, 16 April 2005 12:39
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Jet Black's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:

> Been many many years since I posted here; and oddly enough, I believe
> my question was somewhat similar.
>
> I have all of the "Original Radio Series" CDs... and while wonderful
> and extremely entertaining as they always are, when I was a child, the
> first version I heard played to me was the LP Re-Recordings... which
> to this day I have not been able to find again.
>
> The series I heard was very similar, though some of the timings were
> different, a few of the voices were different (Vroomfondel was not an
> American) and some of the lines were slightly changed.
>
> These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
> find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
> versions of these recordings can be found?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

There should be people who can help you, but if not, I'll carry on
pressuring my father into letting me install the program I need to put them
onto my PC. But as I say, there should be people reading who can help, anyway.

--
John Coxon

A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
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Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #433 ] Sa, 16 April 2005 13:00
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Jet Black wrote:
> Been many many years since I posted here; and oddly enough, I believe
> my question was somewhat similar.
>
> I have all of the "Original Radio Series" CDs... and while wonderful
> and extremely entertaining as they always are, when I was a child, the
> first version I heard played to me was the LP Re-Recordings... which
> to this day I have not been able to find again.
>
> The series I heard was very similar, though some of the timings were
> different, a few of the voices were different (Vroomfondel was not an
> American) and some of the lines were slightly changed.
>
> These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
> find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
> versions of these recordings can be found?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I'm afraid E-bay is your best bet for actually finding the LPs or MCs of
the rerecorded versions. As far as I know, there are no plans for
actually rereleasing them.

Sorry about the bad news.

Best
Kåre
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #434 ] Sa, 16 April 2005 16:11
Fuzzy Wuzzy  
"Jet Black" <jetblack [at] shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:b47161h3bku694t1ec81023fqd50tasplj [at] 4ax.com...
>
> Been many many years since I posted here; and oddly enough, I believe
> my question was somewhat similar.
>
> I have all of the "Original Radio Series" CDs... and while wonderful
> and extremely entertaining as they always are, when I was a child, the
> first version I heard played to me was the LP Re-Recordings... which
> to this day I have not been able to find again.
>
> The series I heard was very similar, though some of the timings were
> different, a few of the voices were different (Vroomfondel was not an
> American) and some of the lines were slightly changed.
>
> These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
> find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
> versions of these recordings can be found?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks!

Your best bet would be to go over to;

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.comedy
and
alt.binaries.multimedia.comedy.british
and
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.audiobooks
and
alt.binaries.sounds.radio.bbc

and put in a request - I did see these in mp3 (the
2LP HHGTTG and 1LP RATEOTU) posted about
6 months ago, albiet incomplete and from vinyl -
I have the old vinyl LP's but no way at the moment
to tranfer them to computer ( no turntable )
There is bound to be someone out there who grabbed
them and would repost.

One warning, watch what you say on the bbc group
as it is visited by some complete arseholes and you
may be flamed simply by asking something about it
as it isn't strictly 'radio'..

I prefer these to the original radio ones. I listened
to them over and over as a youngster. The soundscape
was much more lush and everything sounded so much
better!
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #435 ] Sa, 16 April 2005 17:23
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Fuzzy Wuzzy wrote:

<snip>

> I prefer these to the original radio ones. I listened
> to them over and over as a youngster. The soundscape
> was much more lush and everything sounded so much
> better!

Funny. This seems to be one of those cases where you more or less
automatically prefer the one you heard first and learned by heart :-)

Personally I found especially the sound effects in the radio series a
lot better, and I also preferred the storyline in the radio series.

I can't rule out, though, that this is simply because of the fact that I
heard them first and see them as the "real" hitchhiker radio show.

Best
Kåre
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #438 ] Sa, 16 April 2005 21:31
Jet Black  
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:23:30 +0200, Kaare Fiedler Christiansen
<news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote:

>Fuzzy Wuzzy wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I prefer these to the original radio ones. I listened
>> to them over and over as a youngster. The soundscape
>> was much more lush and everything sounded so much
>> better!
>
>Funny. This seems to be one of those cases where you more or less
>automatically prefer the one you heard first and learned by heart :-)
>
>Personally I found especially the sound effects in the radio series a
>lot better, and I also preferred the storyline in the radio series.
>
>I can't rule out, though, that this is simply because of the fact that I
>heard them first and see them as the "real" hitchhiker radio show.
>
>Best
> Kåre

Yes, I know it's rather unusual, but there are a few scenes from the
LP version that I miss. :)

Thanks for the helpful tips, everyone... one thing that could help me
is what exactly these versions are called? There are lots of different
HHGTTG recordings on eBay and whatnot, but it's difficult to know (and
sometimes difficult to explain) exactly which version I'm looking for.
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #439 ] So, 17 April 2005 03:08
Forrest  
Jet Black wrote:

> These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
> find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
> versions of these recordings can be found?

If you strike out everywhere else, I've got the 1982 Hannibal Records
version (HNBL 2301, manufactured in Canada, oddly enough) in genuine
crackly[1] vinyl format just begging to be given away. Restaurant (HNBL
1307) as well.

(Good grief, in this version Arthur just goes off with Ford! No arguing
Prosser into the mud, just off he goes. That's quite an omission...)


____________
[1] Very.



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Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #442 ] So, 17 April 2005 04:11
Jet Black  
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:08:24 -0400, Forrest <gmauslander [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Jet Black wrote:
>
>> These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
>> find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
>> versions of these recordings can be found?
>
>If you strike out everywhere else, I've got the 1982 Hannibal Records
>version (HNBL 2301, manufactured in Canada, oddly enough) in genuine
>crackly[1] vinyl format just begging to be given away. Restaurant (HNBL
>1307) as well.
>
>(Good grief, in this version Arthur just goes off with Ford! No arguing
>Prosser into the mud, just off he goes. That's quite an omission...)

Wow,

That's not quite the one I'm looking for. :)

It's pretty much the same as the original series (almost
indistinguishable) except for a few differences... The biggest that I
can think of is instead of leaving the Restaraunt at the End of the
Universe in a military vehicle, I believe they take Hotblack Desiato's
ship to a Disaster Area concert - or it's the ship that will be flying
into the sun as the show's finaly.

There are also some different voices... have many of you heard this
version?
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #445 ] So, 17 April 2005 10:34
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Jet Black's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:

<snip>

> Thanks for the helpful tips, everyone... one thing that could help me
> is what exactly these versions are called? There are lots of different
> HHGTTG recordings on eBay and whatnot, but it's difficult to know (and
> sometimes difficult to explain) exactly which version I'm looking for.

You're looking for Original Records ORA42 and ORA54.

Just ask the seller what code's on the LP, and good luck.

--
John Coxon

A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
ZZ9 - the official HHGG appreciation society: http://www.zz9.org/
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #447 ] So, 17 April 2005 10:41
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, John Coxon's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:

> In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Jet Black's voice said the
> following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion
> levels so low as to make a man weep:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Thanks for the helpful tips, everyone... one thing that could help me
>> is what exactly these versions are called? There are lots of different
>> HHGTTG recordings on eBay and whatnot, but it's difficult to know (and
>> sometimes difficult to explain) exactly which version I'm looking for.
>
>
> You're looking for Original Records ORA42 and ORA54.
>
> Just ask the seller what code's on the LP, and good luck.

Aha! Found the blighters!

First LP: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=471 8960640
Second LP: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=471 8962589

HTH HANDA

--
John Coxon

A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
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Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #448 ] So, 17 April 2005 10:42
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Forrest's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:

> Jet Black wrote:
>
>> These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
>> find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
>> versions of these recordings can be found?
>
> If you strike out everywhere else, I've got the 1982 Hannibal Records
> version (HNBL 2301, manufactured in Canada, oddly enough) in genuine
> crackly[1] vinyl format just begging to be given away. Restaurant (HNBL
> 1307) as well.
>
> (Good grief, in this version Arthur just goes off with Ford! No arguing
> Prosser into the mud, just off he goes. That's quite an omission...)
>
>
> ____________
> [1] Very.

Footnote [1] is covered by Internet Standard Footnote Notation, and means
"No, not really."

So a few people here might get very confused by that one. ;-)

--
John Coxon

A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
ZZ9 - the official HHGG appreciation society: http://www.zz9.org/
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #449 ] So, 17 April 2005 10:43
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Jet Black's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:

> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:08:24 -0400, Forrest <gmauslander [at] hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Jet Black wrote:
>>
>>>These are the versions I know best and have memorized :) But cannot
>>>find anywhere. Does anyone have Digital copies, or know where CD
>>>versions of these recordings can be found?
>>
>>If you strike out everywhere else, I've got the 1982 Hannibal Records
>>version (HNBL 2301, manufactured in Canada, oddly enough) in genuine
>>crackly[1] vinyl format just begging to be given away. Restaurant (HNBL
>>1307) as well.
>>
>>(Good grief, in this version Arthur just goes off with Ford! No arguing
>>Prosser into the mud, just off he goes. That's quite an omission...)
>
> Wow,
>
> That's not quite the one I'm looking for. :)
>
> It's pretty much the same as the original series (almost
> indistinguishable) except for a few differences... The biggest that I
> can think of is instead of leaving the Restaraunt at the End of the
> Universe in a military vehicle, I believe they take Hotblack Desiato's
> ship to a Disaster Area concert - or it's the ship that will be flying
> into the sun as the show's finaly.
>
> There are also some different voices... have many of you heard this
> version?

I own the LPs. So does my father, which I didn't find out til I'd bought
them myself. Bloody parents.

--
John Coxon

A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
ZZ9 - the official HHGG appreciation society: http://www.zz9.org/
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #452 ] So, 17 April 2005 11:38
earthnative  
As evidenced by other posts in this thread, there are copies are
trackable down.

This is good, cos it means I don't have to advertise my already
digitised copy. That would be illegal afterall.

I *do* wish the vinyls would be re-released in digital form though. I
got into HHg via books, then TV, then radio, then vinyl... and if it
comes to a showdown between the first vinyl, and the equivelant radio
series bits, I'll go the vinyl. It has the benefit of time in
rewriting.

..../Nemo
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #453 ] So, 17 April 2005 12:06
Forrest  
John Coxon wrote:

>> [1] Very.
>
>
> Footnote [1] is covered by Internet Standard Footnote Notation, and
> means "No, not really."
>
> So a few people here might get very confused by that one. ;-)

Until one has eaten a packet of crisps in front of a roaring fire, it is
difficult to appreciate how crackly my LPs are. Even then you really
need to be sitting next to someone making popcorn.



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Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #457 ] So, 17 April 2005 16:41
Fuzzy Wuzzy  
<earthnative [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1113730712.446048.308450 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> As evidenced by other posts in this thread, there are copies are
> trackable down.
>
> This is good, cos it means I don't have to advertise my already
> digitised copy. That would be illegal afterall.
>

Could you at least up them to the appropriate groups? thanks a bunch ;)

fuck the law btw ...

> I *do* wish the vinyls would be re-released in digital form though. I
> got into HHg via books, then TV, then radio, then vinyl... and if it
> comes to a showdown between the first vinyl, and the equivelant radio
> series bits, I'll go the vinyl. It has the benefit of time in
> rewriting.
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #458 ] So, 17 April 2005 17:00
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Fuzzy Wuzzy's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:

> <earthnative [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1113730712.446048.308450 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>>As evidenced by other posts in this thread, there are copies are
>>trackable down.
>>
>>This is good, cos it means I don't have to advertise my already
>>digitised copy. That would be illegal afterall.
>
> Could you at least up them to the appropriate groups? thanks a bunch ;)
>
> fuck the law btw ...

Um, well, the laws on electronic sharing are the only laws I don't follow -
and even then it's just with out of print materials. I believe that if
something's no longer commercially available, people should have the right
to share it and make it more available.

However, it's not my decision, so...

--
John Coxon

A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
ZZ9 - the official HHGG appreciation society: http://www.zz9.org/
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #461 ] So, 17 April 2005 17:39
Jet Black  
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:00:46 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>As evidenced by other posts in this thread, there are copies are
>>>trackable down.
>>>
>>>This is good, cos it means I don't have to advertise my already
>>>digitised copy. That would be illegal afterall.
>>
>> Could you at least up them to the appropriate groups? thanks a bunch ;)
>>
>> fuck the law btw ...
>
>Um, well, the laws on electronic sharing are the only laws I don't follow -
>and even then it's just with out of print materials. I believe that if
>something's no longer commercially available, people should have the right
>to share it and make it more available.
>
>However, it's not my decision, so...

Thanks for tracking those down on eBay... unfortunately I'm in Canada
and the seller only ships within the UK... bugger. However, with your
help at least I have some more leads to track down :)

I am also dissappionted that no digital versions of these recordings
have been made. And if those 'digitised' copies ever make it to some
Internet somewhere, I would be interested in knowing :) However, until
then, my search for the LP's will continue!

JB.
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #463 ] So, 17 April 2005 17:44
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
John Coxon wrote:

<snip>

> Um, well, the laws on electronic sharing are the only laws I don't
> follow - and even then it's just with out of print materials. I believe
> that if something's no longer commercially available, people should have
> the right to share it and make it more available.

How about if it's material not available in your country yet, and
material you are _quite_ definately going to pay for anyway when they
will be available? :-)

Would you consider that okay as well?

After all, August is quite a lot later than April :-)

Best
Kåre
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #473 ] Mo, 18 April 2005 05:31
franky  
"John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3cfbsuF6mevgdU1 [at] individual.net...
> In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Fuzzy Wuzzy's voice said the
> following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels
so
> low as to make a man weep:
>
> > <earthnative [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1113730712.446048.308450 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >>As evidenced by other posts in this thread, there are copies are
> >>trackable down.
> >>
> >>This is good, cos it means I don't have to advertise my already
> >>digitised copy. That would be illegal afterall.
> >
> > Could you at least up them to the appropriate groups? thanks a bunch ;)
> >
> > fuck the law btw ...
>
> Um, well, the laws on electronic sharing are the only laws I don't
follow -
> and even then it's just with out of print materials. I believe that if
> something's no longer commercially available, people should have the right
> to share it and make it more available.
>
> However, it's not my decision, so...
>

are you waiting for permission from a senior judge ?

of course its your decision...

> John Coxon
>
> A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.
>
> Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
> Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
> Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
> ZZ9 - the official HHGG appreciation society: http://www.zz9.org/
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #476 ] Mo, 18 April 2005 09:13
earthnative  
ehm... no thanks. feel free to contact me off-group though.

..../Nemo
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #478 ] Mo, 18 April 2005 10:52
Ramin  
Hmm... what's a "recodring" let alone a "RE-recodring"?

Apparently, they happened in `79?
Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #19899 ] Do, 21 April 2005 21:54
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, franky's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:

> "John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3cfbsuF6mevgdU1 [at] individual.net...
>
>>In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Fuzzy Wuzzy's voice said the
>>following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels
>>so low as to make a man weep:
>>
>>><earthnative [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1113730712.446048.308450 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>As evidenced by other posts in this thread, there are copies are
>>>>trackable down.
>>>>
>>>>This is good, cos it means I don't have to advertise my already
>>>>digitised copy. That would be illegal afterall.
>>>
>>>Could you at least up them to the appropriate groups? thanks a bunch ;)
>>>
>>>fuck the law btw ...
>>
>>Um, well, the laws on electronic sharing are the only laws I don't
>>follow - and even then it's just with out of print materials. I believe
>>that if something's no longer commercially available, people should have
>>the right to share it and make it more available.
>>
>>However, it's not my decision, so...
>
> are you waiting for permission from a senior judge ?
>
> of course its your decision...

It is not my decision on whether other afdaniains feel that that is fair or
not, though.

--
John Coxon

Chickens taste better when they're in envelopes.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
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Re: Help Finding Series Re-Recodrings (1979) [message #23417 ] Di, 26 April 2005 11:56
spam05  
Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> John Coxon wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Um, well, the laws on electronic sharing are the only laws I don't
>> follow - and even then it's just with out of print materials. I
>> believe that if something's no longer commercially available, people
>> should have the right to share it and make it more available.
>
> How about if it's material not available in your country yet, and
> material you are _quite_ definately going to pay for anyway when they
> will be available? :-)

I guess you are talking about exactly the same thing as I was thinking
about ;o)

> Would you consider that okay as well?

I would not have anything against that when the company acts so stupid
and almost encourages piracy.

> After all, August is quite a lot later than April :-)

I am probably going to visit a friend in Andorra somewhere withing the
next two months and I considered watching it there. I found out,
however, that it will be shown even *later* in that part of the world.

Regards
/Rasmus

(who is trying to avoid any comments on the movie for the next three
months)

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