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Fantasy » alt.fan.dragons » Re: Screwed royally!
| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3691] |
Mi, 23 März 2005 01:40 |
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>>*scratches head and wonders if she dares to say anything* Umm, I have
a
>>> question. What do you expect from humans? With their limited
capacity >I
>>> think they did rather well.
>Heh, some humans think, others don't. Strange how the ones that don't
are
>providing us with entertainment.
>The show was supposed to be scientific, but as someone on the Discover
>board
>posted, a hydrogen sack isn't going to be providing /any/ lift to a
300 lb
>(or more) dragon. It takes a 6 foot balloon to lift 5 or 6 lbs.
yes, saw that. and found my own reason of why the hydrogen platinum for
fire breath wont work either. (now to find it again):
"well, the hydrogen platinum theory is blown to peices,,, (though i
dont feel like sighing up to that board for this...
http://www.chem.umn.edu/services/lecturedemo/info/hydrogen_a nd_platinum.html
though thats a lab manual for demonstration and dont have all the
specifics, you can see that it says that it requires a correct mixture
ratio of air and hydrogen, plus its not an instintanious reaction...
so its a hit and miss type reaction plus it takes too long to be useful
for dragons breath...
AP's scientists really suck at doing their homework... and they had 3
years to do it. ok maybe not since lot of that would be filming and
rendering..."
doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
>-- Draco18s
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Zarris
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3701 ] |
Mi, 23 März 2005 04:53 |
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In article <1111538437.923063.319000 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com says...
> >>*scratches head and wonders if she dares to say anything* Umm, I have
> a
> >>> question. What do you expect from humans? With their limited
> capacity >I
> >>> think they did rather well.
>
>
> >Heh, some humans think, others don't. Strange how the ones that don't
> are
> >providing us with entertainment.
>
> >The show was supposed to be scientific, but as someone on the Discover
> >board
> >posted, a hydrogen sack isn't going to be providing /any/ lift to a
> 300 lb
> >(or more) dragon. It takes a 6 foot balloon to lift 5 or 6 lbs.
>
> yes, saw that. and found my own reason of why the hydrogen platinum for
> fire breath wont work either. (now to find it again):
>
> "well, the hydrogen platinum theory is blown to peices,,, (though i
> dont feel like sighing up to that board for this...
>
> http://www.chem.umn.edu/services/lecturedemo/info/hydrogen_a nd_platinum.html
>
> though thats a lab manual for demonstration and dont have all the
> specifics, you can see that it says that it requires a correct mixture
> ratio of air and hydrogen, plus its not an instintanious reaction...
> so its a hit and miss type reaction plus it takes too long to be useful
> for dragons breath...
> AP's scientists really suck at doing their homework... and they had 3
> years to do it. ok maybe not since lot of that would be filming and
> rendering..."
>
>
> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but it
apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a simple
Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew what I was
looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy creature, Google is
where I'd start.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3713 ] |
Mi, 23 März 2005 14:31 |
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On 22 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
news:MPG.1caab24bdae7af2798970d [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
> Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but it
> apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
> simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew
> what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy
> creature, Google is where I'd start.
If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be looking up
dragons };=8Þ
Lord Flame Stryke
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Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3715 ] |
Mi, 23 März 2005 14:53 |
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In article <Xns962242CA3A346DragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159>, FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
says...
> On 22 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
> news:MPG.1caab24bdae7af2798970d [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
> alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
> > Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but it
> > apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
> > simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew
> > what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy
> > creature, Google is where I'd start.
>
> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be looking up
> dragons };=8Þ
*Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
I'm not sure I understand.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3719 ] |
Mi, 23 März 2005 16:20 |
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"Draco18s" <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cab3ecf835d167d989712 [at] news.x-privat.org...
> In article <Xns962242CA3A346DragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159>,
> FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
> says...
>> On 22 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
>> news:MPG.1caab24bdae7af2798970d [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
>> alt.fan.dragons:
>>
>> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
>> > Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but it
>> > apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
>> > simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew
>> > what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy
>> > creature, Google is where I'd start.
>>
>> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be looking up
>> dragons };=8Þ
>
> *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
> I'm not sure I understand.
Maybe you had to do a search using "myth and dragons" because it's a search
engine created by humans? Just a thought.
Talfryn
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Hoarder of misc info
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3726 ] |
Mi, 23 März 2005 17:10 |
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>> >The show was supposed to be scientific, but as someone on the
>Discover
>> >board
>> >posted, a hydrogen sack isn't going to be providing /any/ lift to a
>> 300 lb
>> >(or more) dragon. It takes a 6 foot balloon to lift 5 or 6 lbs.
>> yes, saw that. and found my own reason of why the hydrogen platinum
for
>> fire breath wont work either. (now to find it again):
>> "well, the hydrogen platinum theory is blown to peices,,, (though i
>> dont feel like sighing up to that board for this...
>>
> http://www.chem.umn.edu/services/lecturedemo/info/hydrogen_a nd_platin...
>> though thats a lab manual for demonstration and dont have all the
>> specifics, you can see that it says that it requires a correct
mixture
>> ratio of air and hydrogen, plus its not an instintanious reaction...
>> so its a hit and miss type reaction plus it takes too long to be
useful
>> for dragons breath...
>> AP's scientists really suck at doing their homework... and they had
3
>> years to do it. ok maybe not since lot of that would be filming and
>> rendering..."
>> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
>Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but it
>apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
simple
>Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew what I was
>looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy creature, Google
is
>where I'd start.
actually ive seen a few places that have "fixed" the wing in
discussion...
course they still havnt fixed the breath yet... had one put some
scientific stuff that also disproved somewhat the hydrogen platinum
thing but then said it wasnt feesible when tried other elements... what
about a whole nother thing entirely? noone has thought that up yet
(actually one did but very briefly). thinking of some chemical that can
be created by combining enzymes and digestive byproducts that reacts to
oxygen? not sure if such chemical exists but i think something close to
it does... either way something along those lines is way better than
the other... would search it but not sure what to put in for a
search...
>--
>Draco18s
--
Zarris
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3735 ] |
Mi, 23 März 2005 18:02 |
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>> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
>> > Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings,
but it
>> > apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
>> > simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew
>> > what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy
>> > creature, Google is where I'd start.
>> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
looking up
>> dragons };=3D8=DE
>*Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
>I'm not sure I understand.
why would one do reasearch for a /fantasy/ creature if dragons /exist/?
>--=20
>Draco18s=20
--=20
Zarris
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3748 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 04:10 |
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On 23 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
news:MPG.1cab3ecf835d167d989712 [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
>> > Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but
>> > it apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with
>> > a simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I
>> > knew what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a
>> > fantasy creature, Google is where I'd start.
>> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be looking
>> up dragons };=8Þ
> *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
> I'm not sure I understand.
You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist and
as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
Lord Flame Stryke
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4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3749 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 04:11 |
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On 23 Mar 2005, Talfryn was found to have scratched
news:feSdnbO8HrGhFNzfRVn-jg [at] comcast.com on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>>> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
>>> looking up dragons };=8Þ
>> *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
>> I'm not sure I understand.
> Maybe you had to do a search using "myth and dragons" because it's a
> search engine created by humans? Just a thought.
Stupid things that they are. But then, unless a dragon created all the
content you were searching, you'd still have to do searches for stupid
things to get the results you want.....
Lord Flame Stryke
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http://www.geocities.com/flame_stryke/AFDList.html
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand
of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
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"I wanna touch the sky, I'll spread my wings and fly." -- Bon Jovi,
"Every Day"
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3757 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 05:39 |
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In article <Xns9622CD77CFC9FDragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159>, FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
says...
> On 23 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
> news:MPG.1cab3ecf835d167d989712 [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
> alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
> >> > Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but
> >> > it apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with
> >> > a simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I
> >> > knew what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a
> >> > fantasy creature, Google is where I'd start.
> >> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be looking
> >> up dragons };=8Þ
> > *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
> > I'm not sure I understand.
>
> You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
> fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist and
> as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
Oh. And you have the reply that actually made sense while answering my
question.
My point is that they don't know that dragons exist. They are looking up
fantastic creature of legend as far as they are concerned. I can't think of
a good example (of something along the lines of things that aren't O-kin).
My thought process to arrive at my Google search term ("dragon biology" oh,
187,000 results 1st useful; "dragon anatomy", 268,000 1st useful; "dragon
science -fiction", 1,490,000 3rd useful; "dragon chemistry 'breath weapon'",
131, 2nd useful; "dragon physics wings", 62,900 1st useful) goes thus,
dragons (old as freaking time) -> dragon-fans -> realist dragon-fan ->
someone's probably already done this.
In each vague search one of the top five sites game me what I was looking
for. Maybe not professional, but certainly a real scientist would be able
to look at a fan site's research and quickly agree or disprove it.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3758 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 05:39 |
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In article <1111597361.254284.144860 [at] l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com says...
> >> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
> >> > Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings,
> but it
> >> > apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
> >> > simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew
> >> > what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy
> >> > creature, Google is where I'd start.
>
> >> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
> looking up
> >> dragons };=3D8=DE
>
> >*Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
> >I'm not sure I understand.
>
> why would one do reasearch for a /fantasy/ creature if dragons /exist/?
See reply to LFS.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3759 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 05:42 |
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In article <feSdnbO8HrGhFNzfRVn-jg [at] comcast.com>, Talfryn [at] non_comcast.net
says...
>
> "Draco18s" <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1cab3ecf835d167d989712 [at] news.x-privat.org...
> > In article <Xns962242CA3A346DragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159>,
> > FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
> > says...
> >> On 22 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
> >> news:MPG.1caab24bdae7af2798970d [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
> >> alt.fan.dragons:
> >>
> >> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
> >> > Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but it
> >> > apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
> >> > simple Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew
> >> > what I was looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy
> >> > creature, Google is where I'd start.
> >>
> >> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be looking up
> >> dragons };=8Þ
> >
> > *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
> > I'm not sure I understand.
>
> Maybe you had to do a search using "myth and dragons" because it's a search
> engine created by humans? Just a thought.
Honestly, that didn't help.
I wouldn't use the word "myth" or "fantasy" in a search where I'm trying to
find physics, chemistry, and biology or anatomy. "Dragon" (to the
uninitiated) implies "myth," "legend," "lore," or "fantasy."
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3760 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 05:46 |
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In article <1111594231.505253.288020 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com says...
> >> >The show was supposed to be scientific, but as someone on the
> >Discover
> >> >board
> >> >posted, a hydrogen sack isn't going to be providing /any/ lift to a
> >> 300 lb
> >> >(or more) dragon. It takes a 6 foot balloon to lift 5 or 6 lbs.
>
> >> yes, saw that. and found my own reason of why the hydrogen platinum
> for
> >> fire breath wont work either. (now to find it again):
>
> >> "well, the hydrogen platinum theory is blown to peices,,, (though i
> >> dont feel like sighing up to that board for this...
>
> >>
> > http://www.chem.umn.edu/services/lecturedemo/info/hydrogen_a nd_platin...
>
> >> though thats a lab manual for demonstration and dont have all the
> >> specifics, you can see that it says that it requires a correct
> mixture
> >> ratio of air and hydrogen, plus its not an instintanious reaction...
> >> so its a hit and miss type reaction plus it takes too long to be
> useful
> >> for dragons breath...
> >> AP's scientists really suck at doing their homework... and they had
> 3
> >> years to do it. ok maybe not since lot of that would be filming and
> >> rendering..."
>
> >> doesnt really say much, but it says enough...
>
> >Exactly. I had a post that had two links for fixing the wings, but it
> >apparently got deleted. Shame really. I found both links with a
> simple
> >Google search (well, ok, it took me a few tries, but I knew what I was
> >looking for). If I were doing research on a fantasy creature, Google
> is
> >where I'd start.
>
> actually ive seen a few places that have "fixed" the wing in
> discussion...
> course they still havnt fixed the breath yet... had one put some
> scientific stuff that also disproved somewhat the hydrogen platinum
> thing but then said it wasnt feesible when tried other elements... what
> about a whole nother thing entirely? noone has thought that up yet
> (actually one did but very briefly). thinking of some chemical that can
> be created by combining enzymes and digestive byproducts that reacts to
> oxygen? not sure if such chemical exists but i think something close to
> it does... either way something along those lines is way better than
> the other... would search it but not sure what to put in for a
> search...
*Googles "dragon 'breath weapon' chemistry"*
Second result. http://www.dragnix.net/From_tail_to_snout/
Quote:
Fire Breather:
The breath weapon of a dragon is not a magical thing that spread out of no-
where but had a more scientific explanation. When we eat our body by
digesting created a gas know as Methane (CH4), dragon unlike human and other
animal store this gas into another kind of "lung" that will serve as a
bag/canister to held the gas that will be later mixed with a small amount of
phosphor (P4) that has the propriety to ignite in fire at the contact of
air. When the dragon wants to breathe fire, the methane is release into the
lung and when the gas is in the air, the phosphor ignites and also puts the
methane in fire.
/Quote
There you have it. CH4 + P4 + (air).
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3787 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 19:11 |
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>> actually ive seen a few places that have "fixed" the wing in
>> discussion...
>> course they still havnt fixed the breath yet... had one put some
>> scientific stuff that also disproved somewhat the hydrogen platinum
>> thing but then said it wasnt feesible when tried other elements...
what
>> about a whole nother thing entirely? noone has thought that up yet
>> (actually one did but very briefly). thinking of some chemical that
can
>> be created by combining enzymes and digestive byproducts that reacts
>to
>> oxygen? not sure if such chemical exists but i think something close
to
>> it does... either way something along those lines is way better than
>> the other... would search it but not sure what to put in for a
>> search...
>*Googles "dragon 'breath weapon' chemistry"*
>Second result. http://www.dragnix.net/From_tail_to_snout/
>Quote:
>Fire Breather:
>The breath weapon of a dragon is not a magical thing that spread out
of no-
>where but had a more scientific explanation. When we eat our body by
>digesting created a gas know as Methane (CH4), dragon unlike human and
>other
>animal store this gas into another kind of "lung" that will serve as a
>bag/canister to held the gas that will be later mixed with a small
amount of
>phosphor (P4) that has the propriety to ignite in fire at the contact
of
>air. When the dragon wants to breathe fire, the methane is release
into the
>lung and when the gas is in the air, the phosphor ignites and also
puts the
>methane in fire.
>/Quote
>There you have it. CH4 + P4 + (air).
ok, that would work. though it wasnt the one i was looking for....
*searches around*
well, discovered im looking for a "pyrophoric liquid", but all my
searches keep coming up with industrial and govermental storage and
shipment standards for said liquids.... even if i use boolean operators
to say not to...
course i might actually be looking for two liquids that combine into a
pyrophoric liquid...
*hates google*
>--
>Draco18s
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3793 ] |
Do, 24 März 2005 20:01 |
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>ok, that would work. though it wasnt the one i was looking for....
>*searches around*
>well, discovered im looking for a "pyrophoric liquid", but all my
>searches keep coming up with industrial and govermental storage and
>shipment standards for said liquids.... even if i use boolean
operators
>to say not to...
>course i might actually be looking for two liquids that combine into a
>pyrophoric liquid...
>*hates google*
finally found some... but theyre all metallic not something that can be
created biologically...
so i guess my idea cant work...
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3813 ] |
Fr, 25 März 2005 10:36 |
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On 23 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
news:MPG.1cac0e7cf2ebc1de989718 [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>> >> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
>> >> looking up dragons };=8Þ
>> > *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
>> > I'm not sure I understand.
>> You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
>> fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist
>> and as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
> Oh. And you have the reply that actually made sense while answering
> my question.
That's what I'm here for.
> My point is that they don't know that dragons exist. They are looking
> up fantastic creature of legend as far as they are concerned. I can't
> think of a good example (of something along the lines of things that
> aren't O-kin). My thought process to arrive at my Google search term
> ("dragon biology" oh, 187,000 results 1st useful; "dragon anatomy",
> 268,000 1st useful; "dragon science -fiction", 1,490,000 3rd useful;
> "dragon chemistry 'breath weapon'", 131, 2nd useful; "dragon physics
> wings", 62,900 1st useful) goes thus, dragons (old as freaking time)
> -> dragon-fans -> realist dragon-fan -> someone's probably already
> done this.
> In each vague search one of the top five sites game me what I was
> looking for. Maybe not professional, but certainly a real scientist
> would be able to look at a fan site's research and quickly agree or
> disprove it.
Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
scientific proof of anything fantastic. Even magic doesn't work with
science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of Energy
says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since matter
is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created nor
destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy into
said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever size I
choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor used
up nor converted.
Lord Flame Stryke
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Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
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programmer can remember what the hell it was he was doing six months
later. Only the weak-minded need them, according to those who think they
aren't." -- Herd Thinners
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3826 ] |
Fr, 25 März 2005 18:28 |
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>>> >> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
>>> >> looking up dragons };=8Þ
>>> > *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
>>> > I'm not sure I understand.
>>> You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
>>> fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist
>>> and as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
>> Oh. And you have the reply that actually made sense while answering
>> my question.
>
> That's what I'm here for.
>
>> My point is that they don't know that dragons exist. They are looking
>> up fantastic creature of legend as far as they are concerned. I can't
>> think of a good example (of something along the lines of things that
>> aren't O-kin). My thought process to arrive at my Google search term
>> ("dragon biology" oh, 187,000 results 1st useful; "dragon anatomy",
>> 268,000 1st useful; "dragon science -fiction", 1,490,000 3rd useful;
>> "dragon chemistry 'breath weapon'", 131, 2nd useful; "dragon physics
>> wings", 62,900 1st useful) goes thus, dragons (old as freaking time)
>> -> dragon-fans -> realist dragon-fan -> someone's probably already
>> done this.
>> In each vague search one of the top five sites game me what I was
>> looking for. Maybe not professional, but certainly a real scientist
>> would be able to look at a fan site's research and quickly agree or
>> disprove it.
>
> Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
> scientific proof of anything fantastic. Even magic doesn't work with
> science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of Energy
> says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since matter
> is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created nor
> destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy into
> said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever size I
> choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor used
> up nor converted.
Some say that magic come from another realm or dimension, other say that we
soak in an etheric substance. I don't know how to magic... yet, but I think
it comes from somewhere.
SHARPSHARK
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Toy dragon community
http://toy.waste-solutions.us/
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3829 ] |
Fr, 25 März 2005 19:17 |
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In article <ESX0e.35328$oy6.856316 [at] weber.videotron.net>,
sharpshark_n0sp4m [at] videotron.ca says...
> >>> >> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
> >>> >> looking up dragons };=8Þ
> >>> > *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
> >>> > I'm not sure I understand.
> >>> You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
> >>> fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist
> >>> and as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
> >> Oh. And you have the reply that actually made sense while answering
> >> my question.
> >
> > That's what I'm here for.
> >
> >> My point is that they don't know that dragons exist. They are looking
> >> up fantastic creature of legend as far as they are concerned. I can't
> >> think of a good example (of something along the lines of things that
> >> aren't O-kin). My thought process to arrive at my Google search term
> >> ("dragon biology" oh, 187,000 results 1st useful; "dragon anatomy",
> >> 268,000 1st useful; "dragon science -fiction", 1,490,000 3rd useful;
> >> "dragon chemistry 'breath weapon'", 131, 2nd useful; "dragon physics
> >> wings", 62,900 1st useful) goes thus, dragons (old as freaking time)
> >> -> dragon-fans -> realist dragon-fan -> someone's probably already
> >> done this.
> >> In each vague search one of the top five sites game me what I was
> >> looking for. Maybe not professional, but certainly a real scientist
> >> would be able to look at a fan site's research and quickly agree or
> >> disprove it.
> >
> > Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
> > scientific proof of anything fantastic. Even magic doesn't work with
> > science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of Energy
> > says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since matter
> > is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created nor
> > destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy into
> > said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever size I
> > choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor used
> > up nor converted.
>
> Some say that magic come from another realm or dimension, other say that we
> soak in an etheric substance. I don't know how to magic... yet, but I think
> it comes from somewhere.
That's what I said one time about crating massive amounts of matter
(shapeshifting? I've forgotten). That the magic energy reserve is so huge
that even creating 4000 tons of matter is less than 1/100 of a percent of
the energy available, thus no measurable drop is detected.
But...if magic works the way every one says it does, then it is defying the
laws of physics.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3831 ] |
Fr, 25 März 2005 19:23 |
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In article <Xns96241AB5D3376DragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159>, FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
says...
> On 23 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
> news:MPG.1cac0e7cf2ebc1de989718 [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
> alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> >> If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
> >> >> looking up dragons };=8Þ
> >> > *Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
> >> > I'm not sure I understand.
> >> You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
> >> fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist
> >> and as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
> > Oh. And you have the reply that actually made sense while answering
> > my question.
>
> That's what I'm here for.
>
> > My point is that they don't know that dragons exist. They are looking
> > up fantastic creature of legend as far as they are concerned. I can't
> > think of a good example (of something along the lines of things that
> > aren't O-kin). My thought process to arrive at my Google search term
> > ("dragon biology" oh, 187,000 results 1st useful; "dragon anatomy",
> > 268,000 1st useful; "dragon science -fiction", 1,490,000 3rd useful;
> > "dragon chemistry 'breath weapon'", 131, 2nd useful; "dragon physics
> > wings", 62,900 1st useful) goes thus, dragons (old as freaking time)
> > -> dragon-fans -> realist dragon-fan -> someone's probably already
> > done this.
> > In each vague search one of the top five sites game me what I was
> > looking for. Maybe not professional, but certainly a real scientist
> > would be able to look at a fan site's research and quickly agree or
> > disprove it.
>
> Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
> scientific proof of anything fantastic.
Not even http://www.dragnix.net/From_tail_to_snout/ ?
Looks like better theory than the show's.
> Even magic doesn't work with
> science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of Energy
> says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since matter
> is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created nor
> destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy into
> said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever size I
> choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor used
> up nor converted.
Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and thus
magic.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3839 ] |
Fr, 25 März 2005 20:54 |
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SHARPSHARK wrote:
>>>>>>If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
>>>>>>looking up dragons };=8Þ
>>>>>
>>>>>*Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
>>>>>I'm not sure I understand.
>>>>
>>>>You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
>>>>fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist
>>>>and as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
>>>
>>>Oh. And you have the reply that actually made sense while answering
>>>my question.
>>
>>That's what I'm here for.
>>
>>
>>>My point is that they don't know that dragons exist. They are looking
>>>up fantastic creature of legend as far as they are concerned. I can't
>>>think of a good example (of something along the lines of things that
>>>aren't O-kin). My thought process to arrive at my Google search term
>>>("dragon biology" oh, 187,000 results 1st useful; "dragon anatomy",
>>>268,000 1st useful; "dragon science -fiction", 1,490,000 3rd useful;
>>>"dragon chemistry 'breath weapon'", 131, 2nd useful; "dragon physics
>>>wings", 62,900 1st useful) goes thus, dragons (old as freaking time)
>>>-> dragon-fans -> realist dragon-fan -> someone's probably already
>>>done this.
>>>In each vague search one of the top five sites game me what I was
>>>looking for. Maybe not professional, but certainly a real scientist
>>>would be able to look at a fan site's research and quickly agree or
>>>disprove it.
>>
>>Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
>>scientific proof of anything fantastic. Even magic doesn't work with
>>science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of Energy
>>says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since matter
>>is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created nor
>>destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy into
>>said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever size I
>>choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor used
>>up nor converted.
>
>
> Some say that magic come from another realm or dimension, other say that we
> soak in an etheric substance. I don't know how to magic... yet, but I think
> it comes from somewhere.
>
> SHARPSHARK
> -----------------------------
> Toy dragon community
> http://toy.waste-solutions.us/
>
>
Let me ask you this, how long ago would a box that cooked food without
any apparent source of heat or flame seem like some sort of powerful
magic, or a box that showed you images of places far away or of a
different time, or another box that let you communicate with those on
the far side of the world... powerful mojo at work here, no?
As an aside, how many of you own a microwave oven, television, and computer?
What one considers magic is relative to their place on the technological
ladder.
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Marrock Volsung
Bearer of one Ponder Point
"Fly with me," said the dragon, "live in the depths of the waters and
soar through the sky.
We are not toys for mortals, but spirits that ride the winds and blow
the clouds along." --Lu Kuei Meng
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3845 ] |
Fr, 25 März 2005 23:49 |
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"Marrock" <MarrockVolsung [at] optonline.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
n0_0e.606$WV1.586 [at] fe11.lga...
>>>>>>>If I was doiung research on a fantasy creature, I wouldn't be
>>>>>>>looking up dragons };=8Þ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*Thinks for several long moments before replying.*
>>>>>>I'm not sure I understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>You're implying that dragons are fantasy creatures. A creature of
>>>>>fantasy doesn't exist. However, we both know that dragons do exist
>>>>>and as such aren't creatures of fantasy.
>>>>
>>>>Oh. And you have the reply that actually made sense while answering
>>>>my question.
>>>
>>>That's what I'm here for.
>>>
>>>
>>>>My point is that they don't know that dragons exist. They are looking
>>>>up fantastic creature of legend as far as they are concerned. I can't
>>>>think of a good example (of something along the lines of things that
>>>>aren't O-kin). My thought process to arrive at my Google search term
>>>>("dragon biology" oh, 187,000 results 1st useful; "dragon anatomy",
>>>>268,000 1st useful; "dragon science -fiction", 1,490,000 3rd useful;
>>>>"dragon chemistry 'breath weapon'", 131, 2nd useful; "dragon physics
>>>>wings", 62,900 1st useful) goes thus, dragons (old as freaking time)
>>>>-> dragon-fans -> realist dragon-fan -> someone's probably already
>>>>done this.
>>>>In each vague search one of the top five sites game me what I was
>>>>looking for. Maybe not professional, but certainly a real scientist
>>>>would be able to look at a fan site's research and quickly agree or
>>>>disprove it.
>>>
>>>Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
>>>scientific proof of anything fantastic. Even magic doesn't work with
>>>science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of Energy
>>>says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since matter
>>>is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created nor
>>>destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy into
>>>said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever size I
>>>choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor used
>>>up nor converted.
>>
>>
>> Some say that magic come from another realm or dimension, other say that
>> we soak in an etheric substance. I don't know how to magic... yet, but I
>> think it comes from somewhere.
>>
>> SHARPSHARK
>> -----------------------------
>> Toy dragon community
>> http://toy.waste-solutions.us/
>>
>>
> Let me ask you this, how long ago would a box that cooked food without any
> apparent source of heat or flame seem like some sort of powerful magic, or
> a box that showed you images of places far away or of a different time, or
> another box that let you communicate with those on the far side of the
> world... powerful mojo at work here, no?
>
> As an aside, how many of you own a microwave oven, television, and
> computer?
>
> What one considers magic is relative to their place on the technological
> ladder.
*takes a photo*
"Arghh, he stole my soul!"
SHARPSHARK
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Toy dragon community
http://toy.waste-solutions.us/
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3849 ] |
Sa, 26 März 2005 00:42 |
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Draco18s wrote:
(___)
>
> > Even magic doesn't work with
> > science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of
Energy
> > says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since
matter
> > is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created
nor
> > destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy
into
> > said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever
size I
> > choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor
used
> > up nor converted.
>
> Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and
thus
> magic.
*blinks*
you spoke to him 500 years ago?
i dint think you were that old ;p
>
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3859 ] |
Sa, 26 März 2005 07:12 |
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On 25 Mar 2005, SHARPSHARK was found to have scratched
news:ESX0e.35328$oy6.856316 [at] weber.videotron.net on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>> Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
>> scientific proof of anything fantastic. Even magic doesn't work with
>> science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of
>> Energy says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and
>> since matter is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be
>> neither created nor destroyed as well, except by converting a massive
>> amount of energy into said matter. But I can take magic, create an
>> object of whatever size I choose, and the magic continues to flow on
>> neither dissipated nor used up nor converted.
> Some say that magic come from another realm or dimension, other say
> that we soak in an etheric substance. I don't know how to magic...
> yet, but I think it comes from somewhere.
Well, yes, it would have to come from somewhere };=8Þ
Lord Flame Stryke
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Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand
of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3860 ] |
Sa, 26 März 2005 07:17 |
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On 25 Mar 2005, Marrock was found to have scratched
news:n0_0e.606$WV1.586 [at] fe11.lga on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>> Some say that magic come from another realm or dimension, other say
>> that we soak in an etheric substance. I don't know how to magic...
>> yet, but I think it comes from somewhere.
> Let me ask you this, how long ago would a box that cooked food without
> any apparent source of heat or flame seem like some sort of powerful
> magic, or a box that showed you images of places far away or of a
> different time, or another box that let you communicate with those on
> the far side of the world... powerful mojo at work here, no?
> As an aside, how many of you own a microwave oven, television, and
> computer?
Neither of these either creates nor destroys matter or energy, they
merely change the state of said energy. Thus they still follow the Law
of Conservation of Energy. How about a computer that didn't require
electricity to run, or a television that completely surrounded you with
images from no source, or a method of cooking food instantly by merely
looking at it?
> What one considers magic is relative to their place on the
> technological ladder.
So being a changeling is a technological issue? Not needing food or
water to survive is a technical issue? Certainly some illusions people
call magic are merely due to someone's understanding of technology, but
what about actually making something disappear? How about just masking
it so yo ucan't see it, but you can still feel it? How about changing
it so you can see it but not feel it? No, magic has nothingto do with
how technologically advanced you are.
Lord Flame Stryke
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Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
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"That boy's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" -- Foghorn Leghorn
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3861 ] |
Sa, 26 März 2005 07:19 |
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On 25 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
news:MPG.1cae211f4def6f3898972d [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>> Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
>> scientific proof of anything fantastic.
> Not even http://www.dragnix.net/From_tail_to_snout/ ?
> Looks like better theory than the show's.
Never read the page, and still haven't seen the show, as the torrent
feed apparently downloaded but forgot to save the file.....
>> Even magic doesn't work with
>> science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of
>> Energy says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and
>> since matter is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be
>> neither created nor destroyed as well, except by converting a massive
>> amount of energy into said matter. But I can take magic, create an
>> object of whatever size I choose, and the magic continues to flow on
>> neither dissipated nor used up nor converted.
> Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and
> thus magic.
Not magic, merely advanced technology as someone pointed out. Now, me
appearing right behind you and talking to you that way, that would be
magic.
Lord Flame Stryke
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Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand
of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
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"Boy, n: A noise with dirt on it." -- Herd Thinners
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3865 ] |
Sa, 26 März 2005 08:37 |
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On 25 Mar 2005, Lord Flame Stryke was found to have scratched
news:Xns9624ED7FE4E1CDragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159 on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>>> Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
>>> scientific proof of anything fantastic.
>> Not even http://www.dragnix.net/From_tail_to_snout/ ?
>> Looks like better theory than the show's.
> Never read the page, and still haven't seen the show, as the torrent
> feed apparently downloaded but forgot to save the file.....
Found the torrent feed where it saved the file, but the file is corrupt
and crashed WMP when it was about a third of the way through -- just
coming to the dominance fight scene.
Lord Flame Stryke
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Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand
of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
--
The three biggest software lies:
(1) *Of course* we'll give you a copy of the source.
(2) *Of course* the third party vendor we bought that from will fix the
microcode.
(3) Beta test site? No, *of course* you're not a beta test site.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3883 ] |
Sa, 26 März 2005 21:18 |
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In article <1111794163.046750.87070 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com says...
>
> Draco18s wrote:
> (___)
> >
> > > Even magic doesn't work with
> > > science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of
> Energy
> > > says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and since
> matter
> > > is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be neither created
> nor
> > > destroyed as well, except by converting a massive amount of energy
> into
> > > said matter. But I can take magic, create an object of whatever
> size I
> > > choose, and the magic continues to flow on neither dissipated nor
> used
> > > up nor converted.
> >
> > Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and
> thus
> > magic.
>
> *blinks*
>
> you spoke to him 500 years ago?
> i dint think you were that old ;p
I'm not. I have this handy dandy time machine...
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3884 ] |
Sa, 26 März 2005 21:20 |
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In article <Xns9624ED7FE4E1CDragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159>, FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
says...
> On 25 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
> news:MPG.1cae211f4def6f3898972d [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
> alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> Most would look at it and say, "pure rubbish." I have yet to see a
> >> scientific proof of anything fantastic.
> > Not even http://www.dragnix.net/From_tail_to_snout/ ?
> > Looks like better theory than the show's.
>
> Never read the page, and still haven't seen the show, as the torrent
> feed apparently downloaded but forgot to save the file.....
>
> >> Even magic doesn't work with
> >> science as we know it. For example, the Law of Conservation of
> >> Energy says that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, and
> >> since matter is a formula of energy (E=MC^2) that matter can be
> >> neither created nor destroyed as well, except by converting a massive
> >> amount of energy into said matter. But I can take magic, create an
> >> object of whatever size I choose, and the magic continues to flow on
> >> neither dissipated nor used up nor converted.
> > Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and
> > thus magic.
>
> Not magic, merely advanced technology as someone pointed out. Now, me
> appearing right behind you and talking to you that way, that would be
> magic.
Ever read one of the later Foundation books? Trying to remember which
one....when they find the Solarians, the last of the Spacer races that had
disappeared in Robots and Empire.
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Draco18s
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3895 ] |
So, 27 März 2005 00:22 |
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On 26 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
news:MPG.1caf8d958f8b8716989735 [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>> > Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and
>> thus
>> > magic.
>> *blinks*
>> you spoke to him 500 years ago?
>> i dint think you were that old ;p
> I'm not. I have this handy dandy time machine...
And then there's the problem of me not being on this world 500 years
ago.....
Lord Flame Stryke
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Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand
of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
--
(1) Alexander the Great was a great general.
(2) Great generals are forewarned.
(3) Forewarned is forearmed.
(4) Four is an even number.
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3896 ] |
So, 27 März 2005 00:23 |
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On 26 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
news:MPG.1caf8e28701e6eee989736 [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>> > Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and
>> > thus magic.
>> Not magic, merely advanced technology as someone pointed out. Now,
>> me appearing right behind you and talking to you that way, that would
>> be magic.
> Ever read one of the later Foundation books? Trying to remember which
> one....when they find the Solarians, the last of the Spacer races that
> had disappeared in Robots and Empire.
Nope.
Lord Flame Stryke
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$ F~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
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http://www.geocities.com/flame_stryke/AFDList.html
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand
of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep
--
"A conclusion is the place where you get tired of thinking." -- Arthur
Bloch
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| Re: Screwed royally! [message #3901 ] |
So, 27 März 2005 04:23 |
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In article <Xns9625A7047329DragonFyre [at] 24.71.223.159>, FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
says...
> On 26 Mar 2005, Draco18s was found to have scratched
> news:MPG.1caf8e28701e6eee989736 [at] news.x-privat.org on a rock in
> alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> > Well, you know...500 years ago my talking to you was impossible and
> >> > thus magic.
> >> Not magic, merely advanced technology as someone pointed out. Now,
> >> me appearing right behind you and talking to you that way, that would
> >> be magic.
> > Ever read one of the later Foundation books? Trying to remember which
> > one....when they find the Solarians, the last of the Spacer races that
> > had disappeared in Robots and Empire.
>
> Nope.
Well, the Solarians had this nice ability to use heat to accomplish work,
just by thinking about it (or in some cases, not thinking about it). All
perfectly scientific, but the simple explanation given to the characters was
magic.
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Draco18s
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