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| The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46155] |
Fr, 20 Mai 2005 18:16 |
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For anyone that's interested...
Remember to grab the stereo version - I fucked up my first attempt at
ripping the vinyl.
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - Love Like Mine
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46158 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 02:04 |
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:16:26 +0100, Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com>
wroat:
>For anyone that's interested...
>
>Remember to grab the stereo version - I fucked up my first attempt at
>ripping the vinyl.
Good stuff, very 'dawn of punk'.
Cam
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46159 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 03:41 |
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Cam wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:16:26 +0100, Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com>
> wroat:
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> >For anyone that's interested...
> >
> >Remember to grab the stereo version - I fucked up my first attempt
at
> >ripping the vinyl.
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> Good stuff, very 'dawn of punk'.
Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>
> Cam
--Bryan
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46161 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 08:59 |
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 00:04:51 GMT, Cam <cam.barr [at] beer.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:16:26 +0100, Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com>
>wroat:
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>>For anyone that's interested...
>>
>>Remember to grab the stereo version - I fucked up my first attempt at
>>ripping the vinyl.
>
>Good stuff, very 'dawn of punk'.
Was the sound quality okay on the mp3s? Like I say, it was only my
second attempt at ripping vinyl...
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: The Clash - Rock The Casbah
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46163 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 09:38 |
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On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
wrote:
>Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record and
put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together in
the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist is
on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at the
moment). :)
You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand of
pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a 'fuck
you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate your
advice on how you 'made it'...
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: The Clash - Inoculated City
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46165 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 10:30 |
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Dav wrote:
> On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>
> As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record and
> put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
>
> about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together in
> the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist is
> on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at the
> moment). :)
>
> You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand of
> pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a 'fuck
> you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate your
> advice on how you 'made it'...
The expensive part is getting studio time and buying the resulting tapes
from the recording studio. I guess you can do it yourself with a 4/8 track,
but would need a DAT recorder. I remember when the Vulgarians went into a
studio, they got a certain amount of studio time + an engineer. They also
got a regular tape of the stuff they recorded, but would have needed to pay
extra to buy the DAT tape of the session.
As for the records - contact Aston at Boss Tuneage Records. He works in cd
and vinyl manufacturing and could probably sort it out for you. He's a nice
bloke.
www.bosstuneage.alivewww.co.uk/other.htm
aston [at] bosst.freeserve.co.uk
Here's a few extra links:
http://www.independentpressing.com/
http://www.keyproduction.co.uk/Prices/pricesVinyl.html
http://www.jtsstudio.co.uk/pages/manufacture.htm
http://www.curvedpressings.com/offe.htm
http://www.tribal.co.uk/
http://www.low-life.fsnet.co.uk/pressing/press_vinyl.htm
--
Andrew [at] Rockface
www.rockface-records.co.uk
"Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole"
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46166 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 10:40 |
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Dav wrote:
> On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>
> As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record and
> put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
> about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together in
> the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist is
> on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at the
> moment). :)
>
> You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand of
> pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a 'fuck
> you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate your
> advice on how you 'made it'...
Almost forgot. The other way is to send a demo to a load of indie labels (I
can give you a list of trustworthy people if you need it) and they'll
probably help with the costs. Not as DIY though :)
--
Andrew [at] Rockface
www.rockface-records.co.uk
"Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole"
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46168 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 13:09 |
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"Dav" <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:h63s81p8dcu6db4qscuaifhf1bj2scjcg2 [at] 4ax.com...
> For anyone that's interested...
>
> Remember to grab the stereo version - I fucked up my first attempt at
> ripping the vinyl.
> --
Cheers Dav it's very good, and cheers Bryan for letting Dav post it
miner.-
np: the bonobos - pathetic old men
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46170 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 14:07 |
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46173 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 16:04 |
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Dav wrote:
> On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
> wrote:
>
> >Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>
> As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record and
> put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
> about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together in
> the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist is
> on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at the
> moment). :)
1000 of them cost about $1400.00, maybe a bit more.
>
> You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand of
> pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a 'fuck
> you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate your
> advice on how you 'made it'...
Hahahahaha. "made it"??????
There are three things I have to say.
First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should have
tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany, replace
them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state 100+ watt
thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as the drums.
Second, plan on doing your recording on a Macintosh with an 8 (or more)
audio in sound card.
Third, before you spend money on anything else, buy a copy of Joe's
Garage.
There are others. Buy a loud vocal PA. Carpet as much of the walls
and floors of your practice space as is possible. What are YOU doing
in this project?
--Bryan
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46174 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 16:41 |
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Pan paniscus wrote:
> Dav wrote:
>> On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>>
>> As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record and
>> put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
>> about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together in
>> the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist is
>> on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at the
>> moment). :)
>
> 1000 of them cost about $1400.00, maybe a bit more.
>>
>> You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand of
>> pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a 'fuck
>> you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate your
>> advice on how you 'made it'...
>
> Hahahahaha. "made it"??????
> There are three things I have to say.
> First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should have
> tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany, replace
> them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state 100+ watt
> thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as the drums.
Tubes are good. How long do you need to let a modern tube amp warm up for?
Right about the power as well. When I used to do the roadie thing, most
bands would set up marshall stacks in tiny venues and it would either sound
dreadful. The AC30's (about £600 nowadays I think) we used to use were
perfect for small clubs.
Always regretted that the band broke up before we could use the Leslie amp
and rotary cab the rhythm guitarist and me rebuilt.
> Second, plan on doing your recording on a Macintosh with an 8 (or
> more) audio in sound card.
Never had any experience of using a pc to record. I guess it acts as the
soundboard? 8 input's = 8 tracks?
> Third, before you spend money on anything else, buy a copy of Joe's
> Garage.
Slipping in a little Zappa indoctrination Bryan? :)
> There are others. Buy a loud vocal PA. Carpet as much of the walls
> and floors of your practice space as is possible. What are YOU doing
> in this project?
Bryan's right about the PA. Never rely on the venue's PA system, as they're
usually shit.
--
Andrew [at] Rockface
www.rockface-records.co.uk
"Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole"
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46175 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 17:03 |
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Andrew [at] Rockface wrote:
> Pan paniscus wrote:
> > Dav wrote:
> >> On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
> >>
> >> As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record
and
> >> put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
> >> about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together
in
> >> the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist
is
> >> on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at
the
> >> moment). :)
> >
> > 1000 of them cost about $1400.00, maybe a bit more.
> >>
> >> You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand
of
> >> pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a
'fuck
> >> you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate
your
> >> advice on how you 'made it'...
> >
> > Hahahahaha. "made it"??????
> > There are three things I have to say.
> > First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should
have
> > tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany,
replace
> > them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state 100+ watt
> > thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as the
drums.
>
> Tubes are good. How long do you need to let a modern tube amp warm up
for?
I wait at least a minute before I flip the standby switch. Now that
I've installed a NOS Tung Sol 5881, I'll probably wait a bit longer.
> Right about the power as well. When I used to do the roadie thing,
most
> bands would set up marshall stacks in tiny venues and it would either
sound
> dreadful. The AC30's (about =A3600 nowadays I think) we used to use
were
> perfect for small clubs.
I'm playing through a 5 watter these days, miced into the PA.
>
> Always regretted that the band broke up before we could use the
Leslie amp
> and rotary cab the rhythm guitarist and me rebuilt.
>
> > Second, plan on doing your recording on a Macintosh with an 8 (or
> > more) audio in sound card.
>
> Never had any experience of using a pc to record.
Not a PC, a Mac. Our single was recorded on a PC. What a fucking
headache. The new tracks are being recorded on my bandmate's G5. We
expect none of the problems we had with the PC.
> I guess it acts as the soundboard? 8 input's =3D 8 tracks?
Eight simultaneous audio ins, not much limit to virtual tracks. We
really only use 6 or 7. One for scratch guitar, and 4-6 for the drum
kit. To record live we would be best off with a 16 track soundcard.
4-drums
2-guitars
1-bass
1-keyboard
1-wind
1-viola
5-vocals
1-audience
=3D16
Yeah, we'd need all 16 to do it right.
>
> > Third, before you spend money on anything else, buy a copy of Joe's
> > Garage.
>
> Slipping in a little Zappa indoctrination Bryan? :)
Just a caution. Too many people get *involved* without understanding
the potential consequences.
>
> > There are others. Buy a loud vocal PA. Carpet as much of the
walls
> > and floors of your practice space as is possible. What are YOU
doing
> > in this project?
>
> Bryan's right about the PA. Never rely on the venue's PA system, as
they're
> usually shit.
Plus, at practice you should not have to blow your voice completely
out. We've got 4 huge B-52s w/ 1-18+horn. We can drive one pair with
a cheesy QSC stereo power amp, and the other with a nice Fender PA-135
http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Fender/PA_135-01. html
which I love, even though it weighs a ton.
>=20
> --=20
> Andrew [at] Rockface
> www.rockface-records.co.uk
--Bryan
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46176 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 17:36 |
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Pan paniscus wrote:
> Andrew [at] Rockface wrote:
>> Pan paniscus wrote:
>>> Dav wrote:
>>>> On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>>>>
>>>> As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record
>>>> and put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking
>>>> seriously about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get
>>>> together in the same room and see if we can actually make music
>>>> (my guitarist is on the other side of the country and my bassist
>>>> is in Canada at the moment). :)
>>>
>>> 1000 of them cost about $1400.00, maybe a bit more.
>>>>
>>>> You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand
>>>> of pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a
>>>> 'fuck you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd
>>>> appreciate your advice on how you 'made it'...
>>>
>>> Hahahahaha. "made it"??????
>>> There are three things I have to say.
>>> First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should have
>>> tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany,
>>> replace them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state
>>> 100+ watt thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as
>>> the drums.
>>
>> Tubes are good. How long do you need to let a modern tube amp warm
>> up for?
>
> I wait at least a minute before I flip the standby switch. Now that
> I've installed a NOS Tung Sol 5881, I'll probably wait a bit longer.
We used to switch them on and they'd be ready by the time I'd sorted the
projector out - oil and kaleidoscope slides :)
>> Right about the power as well. When I used to do the roadie thing,
>> most bands would set up marshall stacks in tiny venues and it would
>> either sound dreadful. The AC30's (about £600 nowadays I think) we
>> used to use were perfect for small clubs.
>
> I'm playing through a 5 watter these days, miced into the PA.
>>
>> Always regretted that the band broke up before we could use the
>> Leslie amp and rotary cab the rhythm guitarist and me rebuilt.
>>
>>> Second, plan on doing your recording on a Macintosh with an 8 (or
>>> more) audio in sound card.
>>
>> Never had any experience of using a pc to record.
>
> Not a PC, a Mac. Our single was recorded on a PC. What a fucking
Sorry, I'm old school. To me a PC is a Personal Computer regardless of
pedigree :) I differentiate by os usually: mac box, windows box, linux box.
> headache. The new tracks are being recorded on my bandmate's G5. We
> expect none of the problems we had with the PC.
>
>> I guess it acts as the soundboard? 8 input's = 8 tracks?
>
> Eight simultaneous audio ins, not much limit to virtual tracks. We
> really only use 6 or 7. One for scratch guitar, and 4-6 for the drum
> kit. To record live we would be best off with a 16 track soundcard.
> 4-drums
> 2-guitars
> 1-bass
> 1-keyboard
> 1-wind
> 1-viola
> 5-vocals
> 1-audience
> =16
> Yeah, we'd need all 16 to do it right.
The only computer audio stuff I've done is using an Amiga and Octamed (8
channel) software. Fucking around with sample etc.
>>> Third, before you spend money on anything else, buy a copy of Joe's
>>> Garage.
>>
>> Slipping in a little Zappa indoctrination Bryan? :)
>
> Just a caution. Too many people get *involved* without understanding
> the potential consequences.
I like Zappa. He signed Alice Cooper first so he must have been a good
bloke.
>>> There are others. Buy a loud vocal PA. Carpet as much of the walls
>>> and floors of your practice space as is possible. What are YOU
>>> doing in this project?
>>
>> Bryan's right about the PA. Never rely on the venue's PA system, as
>> they're usually shit.
>
> Plus, at practice you should not have to blow your voice completely
> out. We've got 4 huge B-52s w/ 1-18+horn. We can drive one pair with
> a cheesy QSC stereo power amp, and the other with a nice Fender PA-135
> http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Fender/PA_135-01. html
> which I love, even though it weighs a ton.
--
Andrew [at] Rockface
www.rockface-records.co.uk
"Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole"
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Sa, 21 Mai 2005 22:21 |
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"Andrew [at] Rockface" wrote:
> Tubes are good. How long do you need to let a modern tube amp warm up for?
You don't *have* to wait at all! It's not like cold filaments in the tubes are
gonna hurt anything. The tubes just will not have reached their full amplifying
capacity yet.
A vacuum tube is much like a transistor, in that it's just an electronic switch
with a reasonably linear transition over a certain time interval between on and
off. It's this range which is used to 'amplify' electonic singnals. A tube need
to have it's filament heated suficiently for the tube to perform it's switching
action, or any action. Transistors are solid state, the switching action coming
from a solid semiconductor material being 'influenced' to conduct more or less,
based on the presence of a 'base" voltage. A tube does basically the same
thing, only a tube requites a hot filament to emit electrons, which are
controlled via a 'gate' voltage. Filament not hot, no eletrons emitted yet,
thus no voltage to the 'collector', thus no 'amplification', yet!
Being an EE sucks sometimes, yano? ;-)
John Kuthe...
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Sa, 21 Mai 2005 22:23 |
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On 21 May 2005 07:04:21 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
wrote:
>Dav wrote:
>> On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>>
>> As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record and
>> put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
>> about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together in
>> the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist is
>> on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at the
>> moment). :)
>
>1000 of them cost about $1400.00, maybe a bit more.
Ahhh. CDs it is then... :)
>> You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand of
>> pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a 'fuck
>> you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate your
>> advice on how you 'made it'...
>
>Hahahahaha. "made it"??????
You've put out a record - that's more than a lot of punk rock bands
manage to do...
>There are three things I have to say.
>First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should have
>tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany, replace
>them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state 100+ watt
>thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as the drums.
>Second, plan on doing your recording on a Macintosh with an 8 (or more)
>audio in sound card.
>Third, before you spend money on anything else, buy a copy of Joe's
>Garage.
Noted - and thanks.
>There are others. Buy a loud vocal PA. Carpet as much of the walls
>and floors of your practice space as is possible. What are YOU doing
>in this project?
Singer/co-songwriter. I just stand still and let the world revolve
around me. :)
At the moment, the 'band' consists of me scribbling down the odd verse
here and there and singing down the phone whilst my buddy twangs away
on his acoustic guitar...
I've been told that I sound like Johnny Rotten crossed with Ian Curtis
- I'm not sure whether that was a compliment or not... :)
btw, is that you singing on your record?
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Avril Lavigne - Forgotten
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Sa, 21 Mai 2005 22:25 |
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 08:30:58 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew [at] Rockface"
<andrew [at] rockface-records.co.uk> wrote:
>The expensive part is getting studio time and buying the resulting tapes
>from the recording studio. I guess you can do it yourself with a 4/8 track,
>but would need a DAT recorder. I remember when the Vulgarians went into a
>studio, they got a certain amount of studio time + an engineer. They also
>got a regular tape of the stuff they recorded, but would have needed to pay
>extra to buy the DAT tape of the session.
>
>As for the records - contact Aston at Boss Tuneage Records. He works in cd
>and vinyl manufacturing and could probably sort it out for you. He's a nice
>bloke.
> www.bosstuneage.alivewww.co.uk/other.htm
> aston [at] bosst.freeserve.co.uk
>
>Here's a few extra links:
>http://www.independentpressing.com/
>http://www.keyproduction.co.uk/Prices/pricesVinyl.html
>http://www.jtsstudio.co.uk/pages/manufacture.htm
>http://www.curvedpressings.com/offe.htm
>http://www.tribal.co.uk/
>http://www.low-life.fsnet.co.uk/pressing/press_vinyl.htm
Cool. Thanks very much. I'll save this post for a time when it may
become useful to me (i.e. when we have actually done something
together as a band that goes beyond talking about being in a band). :)
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Avril Lavigne - Who Knows
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Sa, 21 Mai 2005 22:36 |
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:09:36 +0100, "miner.-"
<outdoorminer_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"Dav" <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> wrote in message
>news:h63s81p8dcu6db4qscuaifhf1bj2scjcg2 [at] 4ax.com...
>> For anyone that's interested...
>>
>> Remember to grab the stereo version - I fucked up my first attempt at
>> ripping the vinyl.
>> --
>
>Cheers Dav it's very good, and cheers Bryan for letting Dav post it
No probs. :)
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Avril Lavigne - Fall To Pieces
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Sa, 21 Mai 2005 22:38 |
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John Kuthe wrote:
> "Andrew [at] Rockface" wrote:
>
>> Tubes are good. How long do you need to let a modern tube amp warm
>> up for?
>
> You don't *have* to wait at all! It's not like cold filaments in the
> tubes are gonna hurt anything. The tubes just will not have reached
> their full amplifying capacity yet.
I know. I wasn't sure if they'd managed to reduce the time taken for the
value to warm up, thats all. It's been years since I used them, but I'm
pretty sure if you played them whilst they were warming up you got a shift
in loudness - which doesn't sound too good when a crowd's watching :)
> A vacuum tube is much like a transistor, in that it's just an
> electronic switch with a reasonably linear transition over a certain
> time interval between on and off. It's this range which is used to
> 'amplify' electonic singnals. A tube need to have it's filament
> heated suficiently for the tube to perform it's switching action, or
> any action. Transistors are solid state, the switching action coming
> from a solid semiconductor material being 'influenced' to conduct
> more or less, based on the presence of a 'base" voltage. A tube does
> basically the same thing, only a tube requites a hot filament to emit
> electrons, which are controlled via a 'gate' voltage. Filament not
> hot, no eletrons emitted yet, thus no voltage to the 'collector',
> thus no 'amplification', yet!
>
> Being an EE sucks sometimes, yano? ;-)
I'm not a EE, but I did work in IC (ASIC) design as the senior design tech
for GEC Plessey :)
> John Kuthe...
--
Andrew [at] Rockface
www.rockface-records.co.uk
"Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole"
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Sa, 21 Mai 2005 20:31 |
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 07:04:21 -0700, Pan paniscus wrote:
> There are three things I have to say.
> First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should have
> tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany, replace
> them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state 100+ watt
> thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as the drums.
The only guitar sound on record I ever really liked to the point where I
thought "I want my guitar to sound VERY CLOSE to that" is Greg Ginn's, and
he hates tubes. I dunno, maybe you're more classic rock than you think,
Bryan.
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46192 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 22:53 |
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:07:51 GMT, rooner in space
<wowfabgroovy [at] wowmail.com> wrote:
>Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> went:
>
>>On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
>>
>>As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record and
>>put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
>>about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together in
>>the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist is
>>on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at the
>>moment). :)
>>
>>You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand of
>>pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a 'fuck
>>you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate your
>>advice on how you 'made it'...
>
>why bother mass producing records any more, now that anyone can make
>their own cds and produce them to order?
><http://www.instant-automatons.com/freemusic.asp>
Yeah, I'd definitely be thinking of using CD rather than vinyl
(considering how much it cost Bryan to get up and running) - even if
it meant burning CD-Rs on my own PC, printing my own labels and
putting the inserts together myself for the first batch...
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Avril Lavigne - I Always Get What I Want
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46193 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 22:54 |
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> John Kuthe wrote:
> > "Andrew [at] Rockface" wrote:
> >
> >> Tubes are good. How long do you need to let a modern tube amp warm
> >> up for?
> >
> > You don't *have* to wait at all! It's not like cold filaments in
the
> > tubes are gonna hurt anything. The tubes just will not have reached
> > their full amplifying capacity yet.
Every amp tech I've ever seen has said that not warming up your tubes
when turning on and also putting them on standby for a minute or two
before power off shortens tube life.
>
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
My little Epiphone sounds so fucking good with the Mullard input and
Tung Sol output tubes.
--Bryan
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46194 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 23:03 |
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 13:31:30 -0500, Rocket Robin Hood
<jasonFUCK_ [at] SPAMMERSbenaltoBEGONE.commerce> wrote:
>On Sat, 21 May 2005 07:04:21 -0700, Pan paniscus wrote:
>
>> There are three things I have to say.
>> First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should have
>> tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany, replace
>> them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state 100+ watt
>> thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as the drums.
>
>
>The only guitar sound on record I ever really liked to the point where I
>thought "I want my guitar to sound VERY CLOSE to that" is Greg Ginn's, and
>he hates tubes. I dunno, maybe you're more classic rock than you think,
>Bryan.
I guess that's where you and I differ - I absolutely LOATHE Greg
Ginn's long, warbling solos. IMO, they make some potentially good
Black Flag songs almost completely unlistenable. On several occasions,
I have found myself bored out of my skull upon hearing yet another
'two-minute-song-padded-out-to-five-minutes-with-pointless-
masturbatory-soloing' effort...
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't(Live Track)
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46195 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 23:01 |
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Andrew [at] Rockface wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
>> "Andrew [at] Rockface" wrote:
>> Being an EE sucks sometimes, yano? ;-)
>
> I'm not a EE, but I did work in IC (ASIC) design as the senior design
> tech for GEC Plessey :)
The funny thing about my job back then:
I studied computer science at college and part of the course was integrated
circuits and logic cells - which I hated. I was told by my lecturer "don't
worry, you'll never need to use this stuff as we don't make IC's in the UK".
He was slightly wrong as there was one British company still doing them, and
it was sod's law that the first job I got when I left college was as a
design tech for them! Loathed the place. Got really, really depressed -
which takes a lot. I was being payed £10,000 a year for doing the same work
as a graduate engineer who earned £22,00 as a starting salary. Even though I
knew hardly anything about the work I had to do stuff like try to design a
vertical nand4 even though only one company in the world had managed it at
that time! I failed of course (not enough routing channels). I caused a bit
of a stir by refusing to say good things about them to the 'investors in
people' people, and asked for a 100% pay rise :) Got layed off and escorted
from the premises.
Now I'm back where I belong in software :) What sort of work do you do?
--
Andrew [at] Rockface
www.rockface-records.co.uk
"Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole"
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46196 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 23:12 |
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Dav wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 13:31:30 -0500, Rocket Robin Hood
> <jasonFUCK_ [at] SPAMMERSbenaltoBEGONE.commerce> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 21 May 2005 07:04:21 -0700, Pan paniscus wrote:
> >
> >> There are three things I have to say.
> >> First, if you are a guitarist, BUY A GOOD AMPLIFIER. It should
have
> >> tubes. If the tubes do not say USA, Great Britain or Germany,
replace
> >> them with those that do. Don't buy some huge solid state 100+
watt
> >> thing. 25 watts of tube power is enough to be as loud as the
drums.
> >
> >
> >The only guitar sound on record I ever really liked to the point
where I
> >thought "I want my guitar to sound VERY CLOSE to that" is Greg
Ginn's, and
> >he hates tubes. I dunno, maybe you're more classic rock than you
think,
> >Bryan.
Well, let's see. Stones, Who, Animals... Yeah, I guess so. I
certainly prefer that to Black Flag, especially anything other than
Damaged.
IMO, the best sounding guitar, Neil Young. Hands down. Neil Young.
Plays through a Fender (deluxe?) modded to replace the 6v6s w/ 6L6s.
>
> I guess that's where you and I differ - I absolutely LOATHE Greg
> Ginn's long, warbling solos. IMO, they make some potentially good
> Black Flag songs almost completely unlistenable. On several
occasions,
> I have found myself bored out of my skull upon hearing yet another
> 'two-minute-song-padded-out-to-five-minutes-with-pointless-
> masturbatory-soloing' effort...
Same here.
--Bryan
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46197 ] |
Sa, 21 Mai 2005 23:25 |
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On 21 May 2005 14:12:57 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
wrote:
>Well, let's see. Stones, Who, Animals... Yeah, I guess so. I
>certainly prefer that to Black Flag, especially anything other than
>Damaged.
>IMO, the best sounding guitar, Neil Young. Hands down. Neil Young.
>Plays through a Fender (deluxe?) modded to replace the 6v6s w/ 6L6s.
I don't really have a favourite guitarist - I tend to only really
notice the guitarists I *don't* like... :)
>> I guess that's where you and I differ - I absolutely LOATHE Greg
>> Ginn's long, warbling solos. IMO, they make some potentially good
>> Black Flag songs almost completely unlistenable. On several
>occasions,
>> I have found myself bored out of my skull upon hearing yet another
>> 'two-minute-song-padded-out-to-five-minutes-with-pointless-
>> masturbatory-soloing' effort...
>
>Same here.
Someone here made a comment a while back about a certain guitar solo
being so self-congratulatory that they could almost imagine semen
dripping from the speakers as they listened.
A lot of Greg Ginn's later stuff fits into this category IMO...
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Avril Lavigne - Knockin' On Heaven's Door
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46198 ] |
So, 22 Mai 2005 00:05 |
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"Dav" <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:h63s81p8dcu6db4qscuaifhf1bj2scjcg2 [at] 4ax.com...
> For anyone that's interested...
>
> Remember to grab the stereo version - I fucked up my first attempt at
> ripping the vinyl.
Took me ages to download it on dialup but I really liked it. Where can I get
more of the Bonobo's stuff?
Was that a real piano that you were playing, or was it a keyboard?
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So, 22 Mai 2005 01:25 |
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In message <5b5v81h672h8q94v4ihj94ds3mk5q4eavf [at] 4ax.com>, Dav
<davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> writes
>I've been told that I sound like Johnny Rotten crossed with Ian Curtis
>- I'm not sure whether that was a compliment or not... :)
Changing the topic, but it's 25 years ago this week that Ian Curtis
died.
Now that I'm using my turntable again, I've been playing Unknown
Pleasures. I haven't listened to it in years and it's a fucking great
album.
Decided to replace my scratchy vinyl with the CD, then thought what the
fuck, I'll just get the Joy Division boxed set. So I'm waiting for that
to arrive from Amazon.
Jimbo
--
'Living above an offy. What could be better?'
'Living in one?'
http://www.eatyourgreens.org.uk
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46205 ] |
So, 22 Mai 2005 08:11 |
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 00:25:44 +0100, Inigo Montoya
<spamtrap [at] penfold0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <5b5v81h672h8q94v4ihj94ds3mk5q4eavf [at] 4ax.com>, Dav
><davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> writes
>>I've been told that I sound like Johnny Rotten crossed with Ian Curtis
>>- I'm not sure whether that was a compliment or not... :)
>
>Changing the topic, but it's 25 years ago this week that Ian Curtis
>died.
>
>Now that I'm using my turntable again, I've been playing Unknown
>Pleasures. I haven't listened to it in years and it's a fucking great
>album.
I had no idea. I'm gonna listen to my Joy Div. stuff again today, in
Ian's memory. :(
>Decided to replace my scratchy vinyl with the CD, then thought what the
>fuck, I'll just get the Joy Division boxed set. So I'm waiting for that
>to arrive from Amazon.
I considered getting the box set, before I realized that it would make
all the CDs that I have already bought obsolete - I really hate it
when they do that. At least the Nirvana box is filled with genuinely
rare and unreleased tracks (unless you already bought the Outcesticide
bootlegs).
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Joy Division - She's Lost Control
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46206 ] |
So, 22 Mai 2005 08:48 |
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 23:35:43 GMT, rooner in space
<wowfabgroovy [at] wowmail.com> wrote:
>i guess bands today are more interested in making money than being
>heard. even the (legal) free mp3 downloads that you can get are just
>samplers for some product to pay lots of money for.
>
>i've got nothing against people making money from their talents, that
>would be very hypocritical of me, since i don't give mine away for
>free either. but there's more to life than money.
Couldn't agree more. As long as I've got enough money to get by, pay
my rent, eat reasonably well and afford a few CDs, I'm happy as a pig
in shit - I have no desire to ever be rich. I think I'd get bored.
If it does turn out that we have talent, I can't think of a better way
to get the band heard than releasing our stuff on CD-R, giving them
away to everyone we know and selling them online for the price of the
media plus postage. Of course, we'd send them to record labels and
radio stations too - that's just common sense... :)
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: Joy Division - Passover
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46208 ] |
So, 22 Mai 2005 13:10 |
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rooner in space wrote:
> Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> went:
>
> >On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:07:51 GMT, rooner in space
> ><wowfabgroovy [at] wowmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> went:
> >>
> >>>On 20 May 2005 18:41:28 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Thank you. That might be because I'm "dawn of punk" old.
> >>>
> >>>As a matter of interest, how much did it cost in total to record
and
> >>>put out the record? I'm at the point where I'm thinking seriously
> >>>about making a go of my proto-band - we just need to get together
in
> >>>the same room and see if we can actually make music (my guitarist
is
> >>>on the other side of the country and my bassist is in Canada at
the
> >>>moment). :)
> >>>
> >>>You probably won't approve of my Lavigne/Green Day-inspired brand
of
> >>>pop punk (we will definitely be covering Sk8er Boi, just as a
'fuck
> >>>you' to the high-and-mighty hardcore types), but I'd appreciate
your
> >>>advice on how you 'made it'...
> >>
> >>why bother mass producing records any more, now that anyone can
make
> >>their own cds and produce them to order?
> >><http://www.instant-automatons.com/freemusic.asp>
> >
> >Yeah, I'd definitely be thinking of using CD rather than vinyl
> >(considering how much it cost Bryan to get up and running) - even if
> >it meant burning CD-Rs on my own PC, printing my own labels and
> >putting the inserts together myself for the first batch...
>
> when you buy the instant automatons cds, that's exactly what you get.
> i forget where it is on that site, but there's a great quote that
goes
> something like "if we had this sort of technology in 1980 we would
> have ruled the world".
>
> it's odd, and quite a bit disappointing, that there isn't a huge cdr
> based free music movement similar to the tape based free music of the
> early 80s. internet based promotion is more or less free, cdrs are
now
> a lot cheaper than blank tapes have ever been, and they can be
> recorded a lot faster.
>
> i guess bands today are more interested in making money than being
> heard.
Not mine. Please, PLEASE, if you like it, give copies away, such as by
putting it on "mix tapes," now CDs of course.
> even the (legal) free mp3 downloads that you can get are just
> samplers for some product to pay lots of money for.
The key phrase is "lots of."
>
> i've got nothing against people making money from their talents, that
> would be very hypocritical of me, since i don't give mine away for
> free either. but there's more to life than money.
>
In America such a statement is a sure sign of Communist sympathies.
--Bryan
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So, 22 Mai 2005 14:24 |
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 07:48:52 +0100, Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com>
wrote:
>Couldn't agree more. As long as I've got enough money to get by, pay
>my rent, eat reasonably well and afford a few CDs, I'm happy as a pig
>in shit - I have no desire to ever be rich. I think I'd get bored.
Don't knock it until you try it. I imagine, being filthy rich would be
a lot of fun. It sure as hell would make my life easier and more
enjoyable.
Ralf #2
--
visit my NASCAR homepage on teh Intarweb!!1
http://www.pmlancaster.com/pages/nascar.htm
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So, 22 Mai 2005 14:29 |
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Cooter Cummings wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2005 07:48:52 +0100, Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Couldn't agree more. As long as I've got enough money to get by, pay
>> my rent, eat reasonably well and afford a few CDs, I'm happy as a pig
>> in shit - I have no desire to ever be rich. I think I'd get bored.
>
> Don't knock it until you try it. I imagine, being filthy rich would be
> a lot of fun. It sure as hell would make my life easier and more
> enjoyable.
Here's something that would stop the boredom: Buy a shit load of cds
wholesale and stand ouside a major chain giving them away. Think of the fun
you could have with the amount of money someone like Bill Gates has! Stand
outside McDonalds giving money to people for not eating there. You could buy
a tank and use it to go shopping.
Shit, someone make me a billionaire! :)
Oh, and there's the not having to get up and go to work at a job you hate
until the age of 70.
--
Andrew [at] Rockface
www.rockface-records.co.uk
"Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole"
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So, 22 Mai 2005 14:59 |
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 12:29:33 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew [at] Rockface"
<andrew [at] rockface-records.co.uk> wrote:
>Here's something that would stop the boredom: Buy a shit load of cds
>wholesale and stand ouside a major chain giving them away. Think of the fun
>you could have with the amount of money someone like Bill Gates has! Stand
>outside McDonalds giving money to people for not eating there. You could buy
>a tank and use it to go shopping.
>
>Shit, someone make me a billionaire! :)
>
>Oh, and there's the not having to get up and go to work at a job you hate
>until the age of 70.
If I was a billionaire, I'd probably buy Ashlee Simpson - or at least
attempt to. :)
Shit, I could buy myself a first-class backing band and the best
producers, equipment and studio that money can buy and release loads
of really bad records - and no-one could do anything about it!
Mwahahahahaha!
Maybe I wouldn't be so bored after all... :)
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: The Pogues - Navigator
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So, 22 Mai 2005 15:02 |
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 14:24:09 +0200, Cooter Cummings
<hit-and-run [at] mailandnews.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 May 2005 07:48:52 +0100, Dav <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Couldn't agree more. As long as I've got enough money to get by, pay
>>my rent, eat reasonably well and afford a few CDs, I'm happy as a pig
>>in shit - I have no desire to ever be rich. I think I'd get bored.
>
>Don't knock it until you try it. I imagine, being filthy rich would be
>a lot of fun. It sure as hell would make my life easier and more
>enjoyable.
Not having to work (not that I actually physically can at the moment)
would be a bonus, I agree. Thinking about it seriously though, there
is very little that I want that I don't already have - I've never been
a particularly avaricious man...
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: The Pogues - Navigator
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So, 22 Mai 2005 15:44 |
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Dav wrote:
> On 21 May 2005 14:12:57 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
> wrote:
>
> >Well, let's see. Stones, Who, Animals... Yeah, I guess so. I
> >certainly prefer that to Black Flag, especially anything other than
> >Damaged.
> >IMO, the best sounding guitar, Neil Young. Hands down. Neil Young.
> >Plays through a Fender (deluxe?) modded to replace the 6v6s w/ 6L6s.
>
> I don't really have a favourite guitarist - I tend to only really
> notice the guitarists I *don't* like... :)
>
> >> I guess that's where you and I differ - I absolutely LOATHE Greg
> >> Ginn's long, warbling solos. IMO, they make some potentially good
> >> Black Flag songs almost completely unlistenable. On several
> >occasions,
> >> I have found myself bored out of my skull upon hearing yet another
> >> 'two-minute-song-padded-out-to-five-minutes-with-pointless-
> >> masturbatory-soloing' effort...
> >
> >Same here.
>
> Someone here made a comment a while back about a certain guitar solo
> being so self-congratulatory that they could almost imagine semen
> dripping from the speakers as they listened.
>
> A lot of Greg Ginn's later stuff fits into this category IMO...
We should have a Neil Young vs. Greg Ginn Thread
--Bryan
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So, 22 Mai 2005 16:11 |
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"Inigo Montoya" <spamtrap [at] penfold0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gut5fuC4N8jCFwNB [at] penfold0.demon.co.uk...
> In message <5b5v81h672h8q94v4ihj94ds3mk5q4eavf [at] 4ax.com>, Dav
> <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> writes
>>I've been told that I sound like Johnny Rotten crossed with Ian Curtis
>>- I'm not sure whether that was a compliment or not... :)
>
> Changing the topic, but it's 25 years ago this week that Ian Curtis died.
Yes I remember the day well, or not so well depending on how you look at it.
A few of my mates saw their last gig at Brum uni, I was only 12 so had no
chance of getting in to the venue
:-(
> Now that I'm using my turntable again, I've been playing Unknown
> Pleasures. I haven't listened to it in years and it's a fucking great
> album.
>
> Decided to replace my scratchy vinyl with the CD, then thought what the
> fuck, I'll just get the Joy Division boxed set. So I'm waiting for that to
> arrive from Amazon.
>
Yes the box set pulls most of their recordings together, I've also got the
full extended Warsaw CD which adds the missing tracks
and a couple of CD bootlegs as well.
As I have them on CD plus I have Closer & 2 copies of Unknown Pleasures on
CD lol I'll refrain from playing the vinyl copies even when I finally get
round to connecting my turntable up
miner.-
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| Re: Neil Young vs. Greg Ginn-- Was: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46217 ] |
So, 22 Mai 2005 17:45 |
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On 22 May 2005 06:44:01 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
wrote:
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>Dav wrote:
>> On 21 May 2005 14:12:57 -0700, "Pan paniscus" <CLASSACT [at] BRICK.NET>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Well, let's see. Stones, Who, Animals... Yeah, I guess so. I
>> >certainly prefer that to Black Flag, especially anything other than
>> >Damaged.
>> >IMO, the best sounding guitar, Neil Young. Hands down. Neil Young.
>> >Plays through a Fender (deluxe?) modded to replace the 6v6s w/ 6L6s.
>>
>> I don't really have a favourite guitarist - I tend to only really
>> notice the guitarists I *don't* like... :)
>>
>> >> I guess that's where you and I differ - I absolutely LOATHE Greg
>> >> Ginn's long, warbling solos. IMO, they make some potentially good
>> >> Black Flag songs almost completely unlistenable. On several
>> >occasions,
>> >> I have found myself bored out of my skull upon hearing yet another
>> >> 'two-minute-song-padded-out-to-five-minutes-with-pointless-
>> >> masturbatory-soloing' effort...
>> >
>> >Same here.
>>
>> Someone here made a comment a while back about a certain guitar solo
>> being so self-congratulatory that they could almost imagine semen
>> dripping from the speakers as they listened.
>>
>> A lot of Greg Ginn's later stuff fits into this category IMO...
>
>We should have a Neil Young vs. Greg Ginn Thread
Greg and Neil should settle this like men - with a catfight.
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: The Clash - Cheat
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| Re: The Bonobos' EP is now available in alt.binaries.punk [message #46219 ] |
So, 22 Mai 2005 17:54 |
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 15:11:53 +0100, "miner.-"
<outdoorminer_uk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>"Inigo Montoya" <spamtrap [at] penfold0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:gut5fuC4N8jCFwNB [at] penfold0.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <5b5v81h672h8q94v4ihj94ds3mk5q4eavf [at] 4ax.com>, Dav
>> <davthepunk [at] hotmale.com> writes
>>>I've been told that I sound like Johnny Rotten crossed with Ian Curtis
>>>- I'm not sure whether that was a compliment or not... :)
>>
>> Changing the topic, but it's 25 years ago this week that Ian Curtis died.
>
>Yes I remember the day well, or not so well depending on how you look at it.
>A few of my mates saw their last gig at Brum uni, I was only 12 so had no
>chance of getting in to the venue
>:-(
Was just listening to a live JD recording this morning. They sounded
much more raucous live...
>> Now that I'm using my turntable again, I've been playing Unknown
>> Pleasures. I haven't listened to it in years and it's a fucking great
>> album.
>>
>> Decided to replace my scratchy vinyl with the CD, then thought what the
>> fuck, I'll just get the Joy Division boxed set. So I'm waiting for that to
>> arrive from Amazon.
>>
>
>Yes the box set pulls most of their recordings together, I've also got the
>full extended Warsaw CD which adds the missing tracks
>and a couple of CD bootlegs as well.
Yeah, I have that Warsaw CD too (the one with the baby on the front?).
Some of their really early stuff sounds very Sham69-like...
>As I have them on CD plus I have Closer & 2 copies of Unknown Pleasures on
>CD lol I'll refrain from playing the vinyl copies even when I finally get
>round to connecting my turntable up
I'm thinking of getting the BBC sessions disc next (the one with the
interview) - I'm just waiting for a cheap copy to pop up on Amazon
Marketplace...
--
"Interviewing Avril Lavigne is like being hit over the head
with a shovel - an unpleasant experience, which leaves you
feeling dazed and hoping it never happens again."
-- Belfast Telegraph
np: The Clash - Complete Control
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