| OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime killings [message #36680] |
Mo, 16 Mai 2005 11:40 |
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Bush silent on ally regime killings
Conor O'Clery, North America Editor, in New York
UZBEKISTAN: The shooting dead of hundreds of demonstrators by Uzbek
soldiers has drawn only muted reaction in Washington, where Uzbekistan is
considered a close ally in its war on terrorism.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan urged restraint by both sides and
said that Uzbeks should pursue their goals peacefully.
By contrast the British government condemned the Uzbekistan authorities
for opening fire on demonstrators.
British foreign secretary Jack Straw said yesterday: "The situation is
very serious. There has been a clear abuse of human rights, a lack of
democracy and a lack of openness."
The US has an air base and 1,000 personnel in the Karshi-Khanabad region
of Uzbekistan. It is used for military operations in Afghanistan, 90
miles to the south.
And recently it emerged that the US has another use for Uzbekistan:
Washington has sent terror suspects there for detention and
interrogation.
Uzbekistan's role as a surrogate jailer for the United States was first
reported last month by the New York Times, which cited several current
and former intelligence officials.
One official estimated that the number of terrorism suspects sent by the
US to Tashkent was in the dozens.
Details of the CIA's prisoner transfer or "rendition" programme since
9/11 have emerged in accounts by former detainees who alleged they were
beaten and tortured after being sent to prisons in Egypt and Afghanistan.
US intelligence officials estimate that 100 to 150 suspected terrorists
have been rendered to Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Morocco, Saudi Arabia,
Pakistan and Uzbekistan.
International human rights groups have accused Uzbekistan of torturing
prisoners with the use of boiling water and electric shocks on genitals,
as well as plucking off fingernails and toenails with pliers.
Two prisoners were reportedly boiled to death.
The renditions to Uzbekistan were made despite the US State Department
criticism of the central Asian republic.
The country "is not a democracy and does not have a free press", it
states on its website. "Several prominent opponents of the government
have fled, and others have been arrested. The government severely
represses those it suspects of Islamic extremism, particularly those it
suspects of membership in the banned Party of Islamic Liberation (Hizb
ut-Tahrir). Some 5,300 to 5,800 suspected extremists are incarcerated."
It goes on to say that "prison conditions remain very poor, particularly
for those convicted of extremist activities, and a number of such
prisoners are believed to have died over the past several years from
prison disease and abuse".
It says the police and the intelligence service "use torture as a routine
investigation technique".
Asked about renditions at a press conference on April 28th, Mr Bush said:
"We operate within the law and we send people to countries where they say
they're not going to torture the people. But let me say something: the
United States government has an obligation to protect the American
people. It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm
to us ... We still [ are] at war."
Mr Bush has welcomed President Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan to the White
House, and the US has given Uzbekistan more than $500 million for border
control and other security measures.
The official US view is that Uzbekistan is "a strong supporter of US
military actions in Afghanistan and Iraq and of the global war against
terror" and the US "in turn, values Uzbekistan as a stable, moderate
force in a turbulent region".
Washington has urged greater reform to promote long-term stability and
prosperity and registration of independent political parties and NGOs.
Go to www.irelend.com to read more.
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime kill [message #36686 ] |
Mo, 16 Mai 2005 13:54 |
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Micheal stop posting OT shit, no-one cares
Post it to alt.idiots.pointless.politics instead
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime kill [message #36701 ] |
Mo, 16 Mai 2005 19:45 |
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:54:06 +0100, "Dan Leach"
<danleach [at] dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>Micheal stop posting OT shit, no-one cares
>Post it to alt.idiots.pointless.politics instead
>
Dan:
Please Don't Feed The Troll!
the softrat
"Honi soit qui mal y pense."
mailto:softrat [at] pobox.com
--
A cement mixer collided with a prison van on the Cajon Pass.
Motorists are asked to be on the lookout for sixteen hardened
criminals.
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime kill [message #36718 ] |
Di, 17 Mai 2005 00:37 |
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Dan Leach wrote:
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> Micheal stop posting OT shit, no-one cares
> Post it to alt.idiots.pointless.politics instead
Does Lancaster University know you're posting on "company" time, Danny
Boi?
Sould we tell them?
Oh. No, wait. Its part of your English Studies, innit?
What a luminary they have amongst them.
M.
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bushsilent on ally regime killi [message #36734 ] |
Di, 17 Mai 2005 03:33 |
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the softrat wrote:
> Dan:
>
> Please Don't Feed The Troll!
I do not wish him to be killfiled in this evil mood.
He was great once, an on-topic regular of a kind that
we should not dare to raise our filters against. He
is fallen, and his cure is beyond us; but I would
still spare him, in the hope that he may find it.
-- FotW
Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime kil [message #36735 ] |
Di, 17 Mai 2005 03:43 |
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Flame of the West wrote:
> I do not wish him to be killfiled in this evil mood.
> He was great once, an on-topic regular of a kind that
> we should not dare to raise our filters against. He
> is fallen, and his cure is beyond us; but I would
> still spare him, in the hope that he may find it.
It is perilous to study too deeply the arts of the
Dubya, for good or for ill...
Morgil
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime kill [message #36745 ] |
Di, 17 Mai 2005 11:20 |
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> Does Lancaster University know you're posting on "company" time, Danny
> Boi?
>
> Sould we tell them?
>
> Oh. No, wait. Its part of your English Studies, innit?
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> What a luminary they have amongst them.
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> M.
Yeah of course they know, and they dont mind
Is that the best you can do?
grow up :jayzus:
Oh btw, people who spell boy 'boi' need to be forcibly removed from the gene
pool for fear of polluting future generations
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime kill [message #47374 ] |
Do, 26 Mai 2005 18:04 |
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Dan Leach wrote:
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> >
> > Does Lancaster University know you're posting on "company" time, Danny
> > Boi?
> >
> > Sould we tell them?
> >
> > Oh. No, wait. Its part of your English Studies, innit?
> >
> > What a luminary they have amongst them.
> >
> > M.
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> Yeah of course they know, and they dont mind
> Is that the best you can do?
> grow up :jayzus:
I suspect they don't know Danny Boi.
> Oh btw, people who spell boy 'boi'
> need to be forcibly removed from the gene
> pool for fear of polluting future generations
How cutting the intelligence that sorts genetic defectives based on
spelling preferences.
Seventy years too late, I'd say all YOUR esxperiments with twins will be
virtual only, and somewhat sad in content.
M.
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| Re: OT There's Terrorists and then there's the President's friends...Bush silent on ally regime kill [message #64976 ] |
Mo, 20 Juni 2005 16:26 |
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yeah good comeback. LOL
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