| Part 1 - not bad! [message #34498] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 02:57 |
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If the balance of Enterprise was at least as decent as this...
Now, Part 2.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34499 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:17 |
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Part 2 blows so far.
"Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:K1che.246$_f7.113 [at] trndny01...
> If the balance of Enterprise was at least as decent as this...
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> Now, Part 2.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34500 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:31 |
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John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Part 2 blows so far.
We've seen (far) worse. So, to me, it's not "too" bad. ;)
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34501 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:31 |
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Half way through the last episode and it blows even more. I would have been
happy if they ended it with the two parter that preceded it and had no
regrets.
"John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:qkche.19495$3b4.6151 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Part 2 blows so far.
>
> "Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:K1che.246$_f7.113 [at] trndny01...
> > If the balance of Enterprise was at least as decent as this...
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> > Now, Part 2.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34503 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:41 |
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this story is so full of plot holes
"John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Wxche.19496$3b4.10601 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Half way through the last episode and it blows even more. I would have
been
> happy if they ended it with the two parter that preceded it and had no
> regrets.
>
> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:qkche.19495$3b4.6151 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Part 2 blows so far.
> >
> > "Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:K1che.246$_f7.113 [at] trndny01...
> > > If the balance of Enterprise was at least as decent as this...
> > >
> > > Now, Part 2.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34505 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:45 |
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Hmmm, I'm personally paying attention to the fact that it seems more like a
TNG episode than a closing ENT one.
"John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BHche.19497$3b4.9727 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> this story is so full of plot holes
>
> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Wxche.19496$3b4.10601 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Half way through the last episode and it blows even more. I would have
> been
>> happy if they ended it with the two parter that preceded it and had no
>> regrets.
>>
>> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:qkche.19495$3b4.6151 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> > Part 2 blows so far.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34506 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:47 |
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All the sudden a ship not capable of reaching warp 2 can overtake a ship
going warp 4. The enterprise after 10 years has no protocols about
detection incoming ships and stoping instant boarding parties??? This is so
lame.
"Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:AKche.57$Y36.52 [at] trndny05...
> Hmmm, I'm personally paying attention to the fact that it seems more like
a
> TNG episode than a closing ENT one.
>
> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BHche.19497$3b4.9727 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > this story is so full of plot holes
> >
> > "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:Wxche.19496$3b4.10601 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >> Half way through the last episode and it blows even more. I would have
> > been
> >> happy if they ended it with the two parter that preceded it and had no
> >> regrets.
> >>
> >> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:qkche.19495$3b4.6151 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >> > Part 2 blows so far.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34507 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:55 |
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Never mind that, a warp 7 starship only 10 years after launch of warp-5
NX-01, when canon "The Menagerie" says "our new engines" and 1701 did...warp
7??
They're pushing the technology again. And again. And again.
"To Boldly Go Where Every Non-Canon Story has Gone Before"
"John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:WMche.19498$3b4.18730 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> All the sudden a ship not capable of reaching warp 2 can overtake a ship
> going warp 4. The enterprise after 10 years has no protocols about
> detection incoming ships and stoping instant boarding parties??? This is
> so
> lame.
>
> "Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:AKche.57$Y36.52 [at] trndny05...
>> Hmmm, I'm personally paying attention to the fact that it seems more like
> a
>> TNG episode than a closing ENT one.
>>
>> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BHche.19497$3b4.9727 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> > this story is so full of plot holes
>> >
>> > "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Wxche.19496$3b4.10601 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> >> Half way through the last episode and it blows even more. I would
>> >> have
>> > been
>> >> happy if they ended it with the two parter that preceded it and had no
>> >> regrets.
>> >>
>> >> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:qkche.19495$3b4.6151 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> >> > Part 2 blows so far.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34508 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 03:58 |
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I was proud of enterprise as a show until that garbage episode.
"Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:IUche.292$_f7.49 [at] trndny01...
> Never mind that, a warp 7 starship only 10 years after launch of warp-5
> NX-01, when canon "The Menagerie" says "our new engines" and 1701
did...warp
> 7??
>
> They're pushing the technology again. And again. And again.
>
> "To Boldly Go Where Every Non-Canon Story has Gone Before"
>
>
> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:WMche.19498$3b4.18730 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > All the sudden a ship not capable of reaching warp 2 can overtake a ship
> > going warp 4. The enterprise after 10 years has no protocols about
> > detection incoming ships and stoping instant boarding parties??? This
is
> > so
> > lame.
> >
> > "Snake" <fluidstates_NO+SPAM [at] REMOVE-ME.verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:AKche.57$Y36.52 [at] trndny05...
> >> Hmmm, I'm personally paying attention to the fact that it seems more
like
> > a
> >> TNG episode than a closing ENT one.
> >>
> >> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BHche.19497$3b4.9727 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >> > this story is so full of plot holes
> >> >
> >> > "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:Wxche.19496$3b4.10601 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >> >> Half way through the last episode and it blows even more. I would
> >> >> have
> >> > been
> >> >> happy if they ended it with the two parter that preceded it and had
no
> >> >> regrets.
> >> >>
> >> >> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:qkche.19495$3b4.6151 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >> >> > Part 2 blows so far.
> >>
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34512 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 04:03 |
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> I was proud of enterprise as a show until that garbage episode.
I would have been ok with it if they had maybe dyed a bit of the grey out of
Riker's hair. It just got distracting.
--
Eric Nichols
Psalm 138:8
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34513 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 04:04 |
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"John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:MWche.19499$3b4.18782 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>I was proud of enterprise as a show until that garbage episode.
>
>> "John Doe" <johndoe [at] microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:WMche.19498$3b4.18730 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> > All the sudden a ship not capable of reaching warp 2 can overtake a
>> > ship
>> > going warp 4. The enterprise after 10 years has no protocols about
>> > detection incoming ships and stoping instant boarding parties??? This
> is
>> > so
>> > lame.
Well, to be honest, the chit-chat between Trip and Archer was to mention the
fact that apparently what they were told by the Andorian - warp 2 - was
either a frank lie or dead flat wrong (apparently). The issue is apparently
canon.
But why didn't the sensors pick it up? That slip is indeed non-canon. And
no security detail - they should have indeed been there by the time Archer
woke up at the least. That would be the poorest "security" response in the
history of a starship - any and all nearby crewmen should have arrived at
the suspected location (if they knew they were boarded they must know where
they were) armed and ready.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34514 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 04:07 |
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"Eric Nichols" <sugarbearnichols [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f0dhe.1378$ce6.167 [at] newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
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>> I was proud of enterprise as a show until that garbage episode.
>
> I would have been ok with it if they had maybe dyed a bit of the grey out
> of
> Riker's hair. It just got distracting.
Frakes looked surprisingly tired - surprisingly old. I believe they should
have done something with the large bags under his eyes - it shows far too
much time between "All Good Things" and this episode. This episode must fit
somewhere between "Encounter at Farpoint" and ST:Generations and Frakes
simply looked too old, regretfully. But RL, I guess, must get in the way of
fantasy.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34516 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 04:10 |
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A bit of spoiler space.....
Down
Down
Down
> Well, to be honest, the chit-chat between Trip and Archer was to mention
the
> fact that apparently what they were told by the Andorian - warp 2 - was
> either a frank lie or dead flat wrong (apparently). The issue is
apparently
> canon.
>
> But why didn't the sensors pick it up? That slip is indeed non-canon.
And
> no security detail - they should have indeed been there by the time Archer
> woke up at the least. That would be the poorest "security" response in
the
> history of a starship - any and all nearby crewmen should have arrived at
> the suspected location (if they knew they were boarded they must know
where
> they were) armed and ready.
Most people knew someone was gonna get it, and many people guessed it would
be Trip, and I am glad they gave him a heroic death, but seriously, they had
gotten out of far more dangerous situations then that before.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34517 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 04:11 |
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Snake wrote:
> "Eric Nichols" <sugarbearnichols [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f0dhe.1378$ce6.167 [at] newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
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>>>I was proud of enterprise as a show until that garbage episode.
>>
>>I would have been ok with it if they had maybe dyed a bit of the grey out
>>of
>>Riker's hair. It just got distracting.
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>
> Frakes looked surprisingly tired - surprisingly old. I believe they should
> have done something with the large bags under his eyes - it shows far too
> much time between "All Good Things" and this episode. This episode must fit
> somewhere between "Encounter at Farpoint" and ST:Generations and Frakes
> simply looked too old, regretfully. But RL, I guess, must get in the way of
> fantasy.
>
>
Yeah, well, Spock fans had their share of shocks, too.
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| Re: Part 1 - not bad! [message #34550 ] |
Sa, 14 Mai 2005 07:10 |
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I *DID* like the last bit with the 3 enterprises
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