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Science Fiction » alt.fan.douglas-adams » Quand #2: Ford's phone call?
Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #33987] Do, 12 Mai 2005 17:09
Robotech_Master  
Possible spoiler, leaving space just to be safe...


















What was the significance of Ford's phone call in Quandary Phase
episode 2? What was it he was asking the operator to do for him, and
that she subsequently did do? It went right over my head, and it's
been too long since I've read the book (if it was explained there).

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #33992 ] Do, 12 Mai 2005 19:07
GLH42  
I think, and I may be wrong here, but I think he was trying to get the
BT operator to connect the call through the the Speaking Clock so that
when the Sirus Cybernetics Sales Person/Thing woke up he/she/it would
know exactly what the time was on Earth.

The point being (I think) that the Sirus Cybernetics Corporation made a
lot of money from virtually forcing people to buy things they didn't
need and so he wanted them to have to pay for something they didn't
need - the long distance phone call to the Speaking Clock on Earth.

Anyway, that's what I understood it was all about and the BT Operator
did connect him to the Speaking Clock in the end.

Cheers :-)
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #33994 ] Do, 12 Mai 2005 19:20
Robotech_Master  
On 12 May 2005 10:07:51 -0700, GLH42 <glh42 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

> Anyway, that's what I understood it was all about and the BT
> Operator did connect him to the Speaking Clock in the end.

Ahh.

I had thought it was something to do with hacking the starship's
systems so that he could turn its autopilot on...but thinking about
it, that makes a lot of sense--he placed the call, then took a lifepod
and jetted so he wouldn't be around when the guy woke up.

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #34026 ] Do, 12 Mai 2005 23:17
Peter  
"scojo the moo" <binarycode [at] onetel.net.uk> wrote in
news:1115927957.826046.35760 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> I think it was to prove Earth still existed. As the speaking clock
> was working he knew Earth was still in existence. I guess Ford
> couldn't trust he was actually talking to a BT operator so the
> clock would prove Earth still existed. But the scene makes little
> sense really.
>
> scojo
>
Well, referring (in my mind) back to the book, it was primarily so
Sirius Cybernetics would get an absurdly large phone bill. Or at
least the part where he somehow had the owner of the vessel stuck in
a deep, cryogenic type sleep and left the call connected was. I
suppose the motivation for making the call might have been to verify
that the earth was there.

Here, have a rather long quotation from the book (not from my mind)
(it does suggest he tried to call arthur first):

SPOILER SPACE (because it suggests the path events are likely to take
in the coming episodes of the radio series, and maybe someone doesn't
know the books, and let's see how many lines long this message ends
up)
































































"Thank you," said Ford, "thank you very much. Have you ..." he said,
and fell asleep for three hours.

"... the faintest idea" he continued suddenly, when he revived, "how
hard
it is to tap into the British phone system from the Pleiades? I can
see



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that you haven't, so I'll tell you," he said, "over the very large
mug of
black coffee that you are about to make me."

He followed Arthur wobbily into the kitchen.

"Stupid operators keep asking you where you're calling from and you
try
and tell them Letchworth and they say you couldn't be if you're
coming
in on that circuit. What are you doing?"

"Making you some black coffee."

"Oh." Ford seemed oddly disappointed. He looked about the place for-
lornly.

"What's this?" he said.

"Rice Crispies."

"And this?"

"Paprika."

"I see," said Ford, solemnly, and put the two items back down, one on
top of the other, but that didn't seem to balance properly, so he put
the
other on top of the one and that seemed to work.

"A little space-lagged," he said. "What was I saying?"

"About not phoning from Letchworth."

"I wasn't. I explained this to the lady. `Bugger Letchworth,' I said,
`if
that's your attitude. I am in fact calling from a sales scoutship of
the
Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, currently on the sub-light-speed leg
of a
journey between the stars known on your world, though not necessarily
to you, dear lady.' - I said `dear lady'," explained Ford Prefect,
"because
I didn't want her to be offended by my implication that she was an
ignorant cretin ..."

"Tactful," said Arthur Dent.

"Exactly," said Ford, "tactful."

He frowned.

"Space-lag," he said, "is very bad for sub-clauses. You'll have to
assist
me again," he continued, "by reminding me what I was talking about."

"`Between the stars,'" said Arthur, "`known on your world, though not
necessarily to you, dear lady, as ...'" "`Pleiades Epsilon and
Pleiades
Zeta,'" concluded Ford triumphantly. "This conversation lark is quite
gas isn't it?"

"Have some coffee."

"Thank you, no. `And the reason,' I said, `why I am bothering you
with
it rather than just dialling direct as I could, because we have some
pretty
sophisticated telecommunications equipment out here in the Pleiades,
I
can tell you, is that the penny pinching son of a starbeast piloting
this
son of a starbeast spaceship insists that I call collect. Can you
believe
that?'"



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"And could she?"

"I don't know. She had hung up," said Ford, "by this time. So! What
do you suppose," he asked fiercely, "I did next?"

"I've no idea, Ford," said Arthur.

"Pity," said Ford, "I was hoping you could remind me. I really hate
those guys you know. They really are the creeps of the cosmos,
buzzing
around the celestial infinite with their junky little machines that
never
work properly or, when they do, perform functions that no sane man
would require of them and," he added savagely, "go beep to tell you
when they've done it!"

This was perfectly true, and a very respectable view widely held by
right
thinking people, who are largely recognizable as being right thinking
people by the mere fact that they hold this view.

The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, in a moment of reasoned lucid-
ity which is almost unique among its current tally of five million,
nine
hundred and seventy-five thousand, five hundred and nine pages, says
of
the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation product that "it is very easy to
be
blinded to the essential uselessness of them by the sense of
achievement
you get from getting them to work at all.

"In other words - and this is the rock solid principle on which the
whole
of the Corporation's Galaxy-wide success is founded - their
fundamental
design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design
flaws."

"And this guy," ranted Ford, "was on a drive to sell more of them!
His
five-year mission to seek out and explore strange new worlds, and
sell
Advanced Music Substitute Systems to their restaurants, elevators and
wine bars! Or if they didn't have restaurants, elevators and wine
bars
yet, to artificially accelerate their civilization growth until they
bloody
well did have! Where's that coffee!"

"I threw it away."

"Make some more. I have now remembered what I did next. I saved
civilization as we know it. I knew it was something like that."

He stumbled determinedly back into the sitting room, where he seemed
to carry on talking to himself, tripping over the furniture and
making
beep beep noises.

A couple of minutes later, wearing his very placid face, Arthur
followed
him.

Ford looked stunned.

"Where have you been?" he demanded.

"Making some coffee," said Arthur, still wearing his very placid
face.
He had long ago realized that the only way of being in Ford's company
successfully was to keep a large stock of very placid faces and wear
them
at all times.



94


"You missed the best bit!" raged Ford. "You missed the bit where I
jumped the guy! Now," he said, "I shall have to jump him, all over
him!"

He hurled himself recklessly at a chair and broke it.

"It was better," he said sullenly, "last time," and waved vaguely in
the
direction of another broken chair which he had already got trussed up
on the dining table.

"I see," said Arthur, casting a placid eye over the trussed up
wreckage,
"and, er, what are all the ice cubes for?"

"What?" screamed Ford. "What? You missed that bit too? That's the
suspended animation facility! I put the guy in the suspended
animation
facility. Well I had to didn't I?"

"So it would seem," said Arthur, in his placid voice.

"Don't touch that!!!" yelled Ford.

Arthur, who was about to replace the phone, which was for some mys-
terious reason lying on the table, off the hook, paused, placidly.

"OK," said Ford, calming down, "listen to it."

Arthur put the phone to his ear.

"It's the speaking clock," he said.

"Beep, beep, beep," said Ford, "is exactly what is being heard all
over
that guy's ship, while he sleeps, in the ice, going slowly round a
little-
known moon of Sesefras Magna. The London Speaking Clock!"

"I see," said Arthur again, and decided that now was the time to ask
the big one.

"Why?" he said, placidly.

"With a bit of luck," said Ford, "the phone bill will bankrupt the
bug-
gers."

He threw himself, sweating, on to the sofa. "Anyway," he said,
"dramatic
arrival don't you think?"
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #34045 ] Fr, 13 Mai 2005 06:03
Neil Gerace  
"GLH42" <glh42 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115917671.485470.314950 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> The point being (I think) that the Sirus Cybernetics Corporation made a
> lot of money from virtually forcing people to buy things they didn't
> need and so he wanted them to have to pay for something they didn't
> need - the long distance phone call to the Speaking Clock on Earth.


Yes. "With a bit of luck, the phone bill will bankrupt the buggers." - from
SLTFAF, IIRC
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #35608 ] Fr, 13 Mai 2005 18:21
John Coxon  
On 13/05/2005 05:03, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Neil Gerace spewed up:

> "GLH42" <glh42 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115917671.485470.314950 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>>The point being (I think) that the Sirus Cybernetics Corporation made a
>>lot of money from virtually forcing people to buy things they didn't
>>need and so he wanted them to have to pay for something they didn't
>>need - the long distance phone call to the Speaking Clock on Earth.
>
> Yes. "With a bit of luck, the phone bill will bankrupt the buggers." - from
> SLTFAF, IIRC

Yes, that's right.

--
John Coxon

A day for firm decisions!!! Or is it?

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44765 ] Mo, 23 Mai 2005 09:46
Zach Bean  
Jumping right back in...

(I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)

On Thu, 12 May 2005 21:17:18 +0000, Peter.QLD wrote:

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> is that the penny pinching son of a starbeast piloting
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> son of a starbeast spaceship insists that I call collect. Can you
> believe
> that?'"
> "And could she?"
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> "I don't know. She had hung up," said Ford, "by this time. So! What
> do you suppose," he asked fiercely, "I did next?"

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> gers."

So, this has never made a whole lot of sense to me, particularly after I
heard the radio episode. Ford makes a big deal out of having to call
collect, then later says "with a bit of luck, the phone bill will bankrupt
the buggers." If he's calling collect, doesn't that mean that the party
being *called* pays for it (that would be the meaning of "collect call"
that I'm familiar with; does it mean something else in England)?

Of course, that doesn't make much sense in the context of calling a
speaking clock. From the text from the book, it could be understood that
he called direct after the operator hung up on him, but that doesn't
explain the radio show, which I've just realized may not have said
anything about bankrupting anyone (I don't remember).

Just forget I ever said anything ;o)

Zach
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44766 ] Mo, 23 Mai 2005 10:19
John Coxon  
On 23/05/2005 08:46, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Zach Bean spewed up:

> Jumping right back in...
>
> (I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
> also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)

I do know you, I think you have been here before.

Um, I don't suppose you'd consider bottom-posting, would you? Please?
Everybody else here does it, y'see. :o)

Welcome back!

Tea?

--
John Coxon

Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44794 ] Mo, 23 Mai 2005 21:04
afda  
On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:46:55 GMT, Zach Bean <zb [at] forty2.com> wrote:

>Jumping right back in...
>
> (I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
> also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)

Hi Zach, long time no wossname. Tea?

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44796 ] Mo, 23 Mai 2005 21:04
afda  
On Mon, 23 May 2005 09:19:23 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 23/05/2005 08:46, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>unreason and Zach Bean spewed up:
>
>> Jumping right back in...
>>
>> (I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
>> also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)
>
>I do know you, I think you have been here before.
>
>Um, I don't suppose you'd consider bottom-posting, would you? Please?
>Everybody else here does it, y'see. :o)

He did bottom post. After all the spoiler space. Didn't you see it?
tsk tsk.

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44840 ] Di, 24 Mai 2005 12:06
John Coxon  
On 23/05/2005 20:04, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:

> On Mon, 23 May 2005 09:19:23 +0100, John Coxon
> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 23/05/2005 08:46, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>unreason and Zach Bean spewed up:
>>
>>>Jumping right back in...
>>>
>>> (I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
>>> also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)
>>
>>I do know you, I think you have been here before.
>>
>>Um, I don't suppose you'd consider bottom-posting, would you? Please?
>>Everybody else here does it, y'see. :o)
>
> He did bottom post. After all the spoiler space. Didn't you see it?
> tsk tsk.

I saw the top-post and just assumed there wouldn't be anything below.

*hangs head*

--
John Coxon

"God doesn't play dice." - Albert Einstein.

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44841 ] Di, 24 Mai 2005 12:07
John Coxon  
On 23/05/2005 20:04, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:

> On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:46:55 GMT, Zach Bean <zb [at] forty2.com> wrote:
>
>>Jumping right back in...
>>
>>(I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
>>also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)
>
> Hi Zach, long time no wossname. Tea?

What's a wossname?

--
John Coxon

"God doesn't play dice." - Albert Einstein.

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44848 ] Di, 24 Mai 2005 16:34
Neil Gerace  
"John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3fgcihF7jfauU4 [at] individual.net...

>
> What's a wossname?

A thingy. You know. Metasyntactic variable.

---
Gaspode looked blank. Then he said, 'Oh, I get it. Yes, I can see your
point, def'nitely. Dear me, you can't have me looking at a naked woman, oh
no. Oggling. Gettin' ideas. Deary deary me.'
'You know what I mean!'

'Can't say I do. Can't say I do. Clothing has never been what you might call
a thingy of dog wossname.' Gaspode scratched his ear. 'Two metasyntactic
variables there. Sorry.'

Terry Pratchett, _Men at Arms_
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44849 ] Di, 24 Mai 2005 16:50
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
John Coxon wrote:
> On 23/05/2005 20:04, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
> storms of unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:46:55 GMT, Zach Bean <zb [at] forty2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jumping right back in...
>>>
>>> (I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
>>> also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)
>>
>>
>> Hi Zach, long time no wossname. Tea?
>
>
> What's a wossname?

<voice mode="Marvin">
_You_ are, you are a large wossname.
</voice>

Best
Kåre
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #44878 ] Di, 24 Mai 2005 22:54
John Coxon  
On 24/05/2005 15:50, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Kaare Fiedler Christiansen spewed up:

> John Coxon wrote:
>
>> What's a wossname?
>
> <voice mode="Marvin">
> _You_ are, you are a large wossname.
> </voice>

Wow.

--
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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #48946 ] Do, 26 Mai 2005 21:35
afda  
On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:06:54 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 23/05/2005 20:04, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 09:19:23 +0100, John Coxon
>> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Um, I don't suppose you'd consider bottom-posting, would you? Please?
>>>Everybody else here does it, y'see. :o)
>> He did bottom post. After all the spoiler space. Didn't you see it?
>> tsk tsk.
>
>I saw the top-post and just assumed there wouldn't be anything below.
>*hangs head*

Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #48955 ] Do, 26 Mai 2005 21:35
afda  
On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:07:27 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 23/05/2005 20:04, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:46:55 GMT, Zach Bean <zb [at] forty2.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Jumping right back in...
>>>
>>>(I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
>>>also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)
>>
>> Hi Zach, long time no wossname. Tea?
>
>What's a wossname?

It's quite a bit like a thingummy, slightly like a doodad, probably
most like a whatsit.

Lloyd


--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #48973 ] Do, 26 Mai 2005 22:05
John Coxon  
On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:

> On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:06:54 +0100, John Coxon
> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 23/05/2005 20:04, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>
>>>On Mon, 23 May 2005 09:19:23 +0100, John Coxon
>>><rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Um, I don't suppose you'd consider bottom-posting, would you? Please?
>>>>Everybody else here does it, y'see. :o)
>>>
>>>He did bottom post. After all the spoiler space. Didn't you see it?
>>>tsk tsk.
>>
>>I saw the top-post and just assumed there wouldn't be anything below.
>>*hangs head*
>
> Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?

Yes please, one spoonful.

--
John Coxon

"First things first - but not necessarily in that order." - Doctor Who.

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #48974 ] Do, 26 Mai 2005 22:08
John Coxon  
On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:

> On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:07:27 +0100, John Coxon
> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 23/05/2005 20:04, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>
>>>On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:46:55 GMT, Zach Bean <zb [at] forty2.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jumping right back in...
>>>>
>>>>(I don't know most of the names I've seen attached to posts, so if you
>>>>also don't know me, Hello! I'm Zach.)
>>>
>>>Hi Zach, long time no wossname. Tea?
>>
>>What's a wossname?
>
> It's quite a bit like a thingummy, slightly like a doodad, probably
> most like a whatsit.

Ah, gotcha.

--
John Coxon

"First things first - but not necessarily in that order." - Doctor Who.

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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #49046 ] Fr, 27 Mai 2005 20:45
afda  
On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:05:57 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>
>> Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?
>
>Yes please, one spoonful.

One spoonful of tea? Okay......

/me hands John a single spoonful of tea.

Careful, it's hot!

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #49049 ] Fr, 27 Mai 2005 21:10
John Coxon  
On 27/05/2005 19:45, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:

> On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:05:57 +0100, John Coxon
> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>
>>>Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?
>>
>>Yes please, one spoonful.
>
> One spoonful of tea? Okay......
>
> /me hands John a single spoonful of tea.
>
> Careful, it's hot!

*slurps*

May I have another, please?

--
John Coxon

"First things first - but not necessarily in that order." - Doctor Who.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #49083 ] Fr, 27 Mai 2005 22:51
afda  
On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:10:32 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 27/05/2005 19:45, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>
>> On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:05:57 +0100, John Coxon
>> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>>
>>>>Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?
>>>Yes please, one spoonful.
>> One spoonful of tea? Okay......
>> /me hands John a single spoonful of tea.
>> Careful, it's hot!
>
>*slurps*
>
>May I have another, please?

Aren't you the little Oliver Twist!

How about we save the further "more?" "yet more?" questions and I just
make you a cuppa that you need not finish if it's too much for you?

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #50616 ] Mo, 30 Mai 2005 18:14
John Coxon  
On 27/05/2005 21:51, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:

> On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:10:32 +0100, John Coxon
> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 27/05/2005 19:45, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>
>>>On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:05:57 +0100, John Coxon
>>><rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>>>
>>>>>Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?
>>>>
>>>>Yes please, one spoonful.
>>>
>>>One spoonful of tea? Okay......
>>>/me hands John a single spoonful of tea.
>>>Careful, it's hot!
>>
>>*slurps*
>>
>>May I have another, please?
>
> Aren't you the little Oliver Twist!
>
> How about we save the further "more?" "yet more?" questions and I just
> make you a cuppa that you need not finish if it's too much for you?

Yeah, I meant spoonful of sugar anyway, so...

--
John Coxon

"First things first - but not necessarily in that order." - Doctor Who.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #50625 ] Mo, 30 Mai 2005 20:59
afda  
On Mon, 30 May 2005 17:14:12 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 27/05/2005 21:51, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>> On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:10:32 +0100, John Coxon
>> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>On 27/05/2005 19:45, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>>>On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:05:57 +0100, John Coxon
>>>><rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>>>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>>>>>Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?
>>>>>Yes please, one spoonful.
>>>>One spoonful of tea? Okay......
>>>>/me hands John a single spoonful of tea.
>>>>Careful, it's hot!
>>>*slurps*
>>>May I have another, please?
>> Aren't you the little Oliver Twist!
>>
>> How about we save the further "more?" "yet more?" questions and I just
>> make you a cuppa that you need not finish if it's too much for you?
>
>Yeah, I meant spoonful of sugar anyway, so...

Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
sugar to hand..

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #50627 ] Mo, 30 Mai 2005 21:14
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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #50634 ] Mo, 30 Mai 2005 22:05
Dave Adalian  
"Kenny Hutchings" <mhfk51 [at] dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d05766d3b6bc1189896b5 [at] nntp.dsl.pipex.com...
> In article <sjom915mtuvg614ujnfpfrc2uvjm6pjphk [at] 4ax.com>,
> afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid says...
>> >Yeah, I meant spoonful of sugar anyway, so...
>>
>> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
>> sugar to hand..
>>
>
> Oh, come on. You of all people should have the power to change non-
> spoonable sugar into the spoonable kind.
>

Why not put the lump in a spoon? Radical, I know, but what the hell?


Chiggy.
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #50635 ] Mo, 30 Mai 2005 22:16
afda  
On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:05:22 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
<dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:

>"Kenny Hutchings" <mhfk51 [at] dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.1d05766d3b6bc1189896b5 [at] nntp.dsl.pipex.com...
>> In article <sjom915mtuvg614ujnfpfrc2uvjm6pjphk [at] 4ax.com>,
>> afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid says...
>>> >Yeah, I meant spoonful of sugar anyway, so...
>>>
>>> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
>>> sugar to hand..
>>>
>>
>> Oh, come on. You of all people should have the power to change non-
>> spoonable sugar into the spoonable kind.
>
>Why not put the lump in a spoon? Radical, I know, but what the hell?

Two stage operation, really, then. Pick up lump and put it in spoon,
empty spoon into cup.

Can be reduced to just one stage: pick up lump and put into cup, if
one lump is sufficiently spoonful-equivalent amount of sugar.

Hmm...

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #50636 ] Mo, 30 Mai 2005 22:14
afda  
On Mon, 30 May 2005 20:14:22 +0100, Kenny Hutchings
<mhfk51 [at] dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

>In article <sjom915mtuvg614ujnfpfrc2uvjm6pjphk [at] 4ax.com>,
>afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid says...
>> >Yeah, I meant spoonful of sugar anyway, so...
>>
>> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
>> sugar to hand..
>
>Oh, come on. You of all people should have the power to change non-
>spoonable sugar into the spoonable kind.

Well, yeah, but it takes time y'know, and John's tea's already getting
cold.

They're not as crumbly as an oxo cube! ;)

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #50645 ] Di, 31 Mai 2005 05:06
Neil Gerace  
"Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:sjom915mtuvg614ujnfpfrc2uvjm6pjphk [at] 4ax.com...

> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
> sugar to hand..

"Milk?" called Reg.
"Er, please."
"One lump or two?"
"One, please."
"Sugar?"
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51786 ] Di, 31 Mai 2005 18:07
John Coxon  
On 30/05/2005 19:59, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:

> On Mon, 30 May 2005 17:14:12 +0100, John Coxon
> <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 27/05/2005 21:51, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>
>>>On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:10:32 +0100, John Coxon
>>><rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 27/05/2005 19:45, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:05:57 +0100, John Coxon
>>>>><rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 26/05/2005 20:35, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
>>>>>>unreason and Lloyd Gilbert spewed up:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Never mind, lesson learned and all that. Tea?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes please, one spoonful.
>>>>>
>>>>>One spoonful of tea? Okay......
>>>>>/me hands John a single spoonful of tea.
>>>>>Careful, it's hot!
>>>>
>>>>*slurps*
>>>>May I have another, please?
>>>
>>>Aren't you the little Oliver Twist!
>>>
>>>How about we save the further "more?" "yet more?" questions and I just
>>>make you a cuppa that you need not finish if it's too much for you?
>>
>>Yeah, I meant spoonful of sugar anyway, so...
>
> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
> sugar to hand..

A lump's fine, it's fine, indeedy.

--
John Coxon

"First things first - but not necessarily in that order." - Doctor Who.

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
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Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51804 ] Di, 31 Mai 2005 21:11
afda  
On Tue, 31 May 2005 17:07:24 +0100, John Coxon
<rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>A lump's fine, it's fine, indeedy.

It is a fine lump. None of your coarse lumps round here, only the
finest of fine lumps. And it's yours. Here you go.

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51805 ] Di, 31 Mai 2005 21:11
afda  
On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:06:33 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
<geracen [at] iinet.net.au> wrote:

>"Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>news:sjom915mtuvg614ujnfpfrc2uvjm6pjphk [at] 4ax.com...
>
>> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
>> sugar to hand..
>
>"Milk?" called Reg.
>"Er, please."
>"One lump or two?"
>"One, please."
>"Sugar?"

Marvellous! Well done that man!

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51820 ] Mi, 01 Juni 2005 01:14
Frankymole  
Lloyd Gilbert wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:06:33 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
> <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:sjom915mtuvg614ujnfpfrc2uvjm6pjphk [at] 4ax.com...
>>
>>> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
>>> sugar to hand..
>>
>> "Milk?" called Reg.
>> "Er, please."
>> "One lump or two?"
>> "One, please."
>> "Sugar?"
>
> Marvellous! Well done that man!
>
> Lloyd

Gotta love Shada!
--

Frankymole
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51890 ] Mi, 01 Juni 2005 21:04
spam05  
afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid (Lloyd Gilbert) hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:05:22 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
> <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>"Kenny Hutchings" <mhfk51 [at] dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
>>news:MPG.1d05766d3b6bc1189896b5 [at] nntp.dsl.pipex.com...
>>> In article <sjom915mtuvg614ujnfpfrc2uvjm6pjphk [at] 4ax.com>,
>>> afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid says...
>>>> >Yeah, I meant spoonful of sugar anyway, so...
>>>>
>>>> Ah, OK. How about a lump instead? Don't seem to have any spoonable
>>>> sugar to hand..
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, come on. You of all people should have the power to change non-
>>> spoonable sugar into the spoonable kind.
>>
>>Why not put the lump in a spoon? Radical, I know, but what the hell?
>
> Two stage operation, really, then. Pick up lump and put it in spoon,
> empty spoon into cup.
>
> Can be reduced to just one stage: pick up lump and put into cup, if
> one lump is sufficiently spoonful-equivalent amount of sugar.

But then the lump isn't measured in a spoon and you can't be sure that
this *one* lump is the equivalent of a spoonful.

/me considers going into the sugar measurement business

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
It's a shame, but nowadays, I don't think you'll find anyone who doesn't
know about 42 - even if that's *all* they know.
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51891 ] Mi, 01 Juni 2005 21:09
spam05  
afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid (Lloyd Gilbert) hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> They're not as crumbly as an oxo cube! ;)

Can that be put in tea?

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
The day Microsoft makes something that does not suck,
is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51912 ] Do, 02 Juni 2005 03:43
Neil Gerace  
""Rasmus Bøg Hansen"" <spam05 [at] zz9.dk> wrote in message
news:87ll5tki7a.fsf [at] grignard.amagerkollegiet.dk...
> afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid (Lloyd Gilbert) hit the keyboard.
> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>> They're not as crumbly as an oxo cube! ;)
>
> Can that be put in tea?

Only if you ignore various chemical weapons treaties. Same for Vegemite.
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #51914 ] Do, 02 Juni 2005 09:39
spam05  
"Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> ""Rasmus Bøg Hansen"" <spam05 [at] zz9.dk> wrote in message
> news:87ll5tki7a.fsf [at] grignard.amagerkollegiet.dk...
>> afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid (Lloyd Gilbert) hit the keyboard.
>> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>>
>>> They're not as crumbly as an oxo cube! ;)
>>
>> Can that be put in tea?
>
> Only if you ignore various chemical weapons treaties. Same for Vegemite.

Oh, I thought there was some kind of drawback.

Now I only need to find out what those things are (well, I know what
vegemite is but never seen or tasted it in real life).

The oxo cube on the other hand... Google tells me it is slang for
almost anything - or something that can be put in food. Well...

I think I'll just go for sugar in the tea then.

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
The reason we come up with new versions is not to fix bugs.
-- Bill Gates
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #53123 ] Do, 02 Juni 2005 18:21
Neil Gerace  
""Rasmus Bøg Hansen"" <spam05 [at] zz9.dk> wrote in message
news:87fyw19pic.fsf [at] grignard.amagerkollegiet.dk...

> Oh, I thought there was some kind of drawback.
>
> Now I only need to find out what those things are (well, I know what
> vegemite is but never seen or tasted it in real life).
>
> The oxo cube on the other hand... Google tells me it is slang for
> almost anything - or something that can be put in food. Well...
>
> I think I'll just go for sugar in the tea then.

Oxo cubes are dehydrated chicken or beef stock. Normally used to add flavour
to soup. Vegemite is made from yeast, and is a dark brown sticky substance
that has the consistency and appearance of grease. It's very salty and is ..
a regional specialty .. to Australia.

www.vegemite.com.au
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #53125 ] Do, 02 Juni 2005 18:56
Dave Adalian  
"Neil Gerace" <geracen [at] iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:429f314a$0$17596$5a62ac22 [at] per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> Oxo cubes are dehydrated chicken or beef stock. Normally used to add
> flavour to soup. Vegemite is made from yeast, and is a dark brown sticky
> substance that has the consistency and appearance of grease. It's very
> salty and is .. a regional specialty .. to Australia.
>

If you've ever had a really yeasty, unfiltered beer and let it sit until the
bitter sediment gathers at the bottom of the glass then accidentally drunk
the stuff, you got a pretty good idea of what vegemite tastes like only with
a lesser intensity. Imagine if someone went through all the dirty glasses
in the bar and collected all of that stuff, mixed it with cigarette ash and
cod-liver oil and bottled it, then you'd have a better idea how vegemite
tastes. You'd then want to drink three or four gallons of water and
sandpaper your tongue.


Chiggy.
Re: Quand #2: Ford's phone call? [message #53133 ] Do, 02 Juni 2005 21:22
afda  
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:39:07 +0200, spam05 [at] zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
wrote:

>The oxo cube on the other hand... Google tells me it is slang for
>almost anything - or something that can be put in food. Well...

An oxo cube is an "oxo" brand stock cube.

HTH HANDA

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
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