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OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #32035]

Di, 10 Mai 2005 02:54

Scott L

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/harry_potter/thegobletoffir e/
The trailer's out for Goblet of Fire - and it looks wicked! Methinks
they're capitalizing on the lessons learned from the last movie, and
exploring the darkness of the storyline as well.
Scott

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #32043 ]

Di, 10 Mai 2005 08:23

Draco18s

In article <sDTfe.70817$WI3.58842 [at] attbi_s71>, spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com
says...
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/harry_potter/thegobletoffir e/
> The trailer's out for Goblet of Fire - and it looks wicked! Methinks
> they're capitalizing on the lessons learned from the last movie, and
> exploring the darkness of the storyline as well.
> Scott

I would like to point out that it is not dragons that star in this movie,
but wyverns. Didn't they read the "Monster Book of Monsters"? Or, heck,
even LOOK at the cover of the book (I think the UK version has a draggy on
the cover)?

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #32611 ]

Di, 10 Mai 2005 15:21

Scott L

Draco18s wrote:

> In article <sDTfe.70817$WI3.58842 [at] attbi_s71>,
> spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com says...
> > http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/harry_potter/thegobletoffir e/
> > The trailer's out for Goblet of Fire - and it looks wicked! Methinks
> > they're capitalizing on the lessons learned from the last movie, and
> > exploring the darkness of the storyline as well.
> > Scott
>
> I would like to point out that it is not dragons that star in this
> movie, but wyverns. Didn't they read the "Monster Book of Monsters"?
> Or, heck, even LOOK at the cover of the book (I think the UK version
> has a draggy on the cover)?

They're dragons. They bring in four species of them specifically for
the story. Four legs, most winged, fire-breathing, and so on.

Just a Monkey,

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #32615 ]

Di, 10 Mai 2005 16:40

Draco18s

In article <Cz2ge.72393$c24.55638 [at] attbi_s72>, spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com
says...
> Draco18s wrote:
>
> > In article <sDTfe.70817$WI3.58842 [at] attbi_s71>,
> > spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com says...
> > > http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/harry_potter/thegobletoffir e/
> > > The trailer's out for Goblet of Fire - and it looks wicked! Methinks
> > > they're capitalizing on the lessons learned from the last movie, and
> > > exploring the darkness of the storyline as well.
> > > Scott
> >
> > I would like to point out that it is not dragons that star in this
> > movie, but wyverns. Didn't they read the "Monster Book of Monsters"?
> > Or, heck, even LOOK at the cover of the book (I think the UK version
> > has a draggy on the cover)?
>
> They're dragons. They bring in four species of them specifically for
> the story. Four legs, most winged, fire-breathing, and so on.

I know that there are four, but...
*Points to the one in the trailer.*
That one distinctly has no front legs.

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #32619 ]

Mi, 11 Mai 2005 01:21

Rai

Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
....
> I know that there are four, but...
> *Points to the one in the trailer.*
> That one distinctly has no front legs.

You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between wyverns and
dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often portrayed
without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come to an
official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them lacking
/back/ legs.

I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the Potter
novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I maintain
500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #32620 ]

Mi, 11 Mai 2005 03:19

Scott L

Rai wrote:

> Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> ...
> > I know that there are four, but...
> > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
> > That one distinctly has no front legs.
>
> You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between wyverns
> and dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often portrayed
> without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come to an
> official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them
> lacking back legs.
>
> I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the Potter
> novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I maintain
> 500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)

They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic Beats and
Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full set of
legs.

Just a Monkey,

Scott,

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #33325 ]

Mi, 11 Mai 2005 14:57

Scott L

Scott L wrote:

> Rai wrote:
>
> > Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> > ...
> > > I know that there are four, but...
> > > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
> > > That one distinctly has no front legs.
> >
> > You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between wyverns
> > and dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often
> > portrayed without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can
> > come to an official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry,
> > has them lacking back legs.
> >
> > I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the Potter
> > novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I
> > maintain 500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
>
> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic Beats and
> Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full set of
> legs.

However, I looked again and it definately looks like they wyvverned the
one there. Blech.

Just a Monkey,

Scott,

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #33327 ]

Mi, 11 Mai 2005 16:22

Draco18s

In article <J4dge.73416$c24.51875 [at] attbi_s72>, spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com
says...
> Rai wrote:
>
> > Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> > ...
> > > I know that there are four, but...
> > > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
> > > That one distinctly has no front legs.
> >
> > You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between wyverns
> > and dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often portrayed
> > without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come to an
> > official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them
> > lacking back legs.
> >
> > I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the Potter
> > novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I maintain
> > 500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
>
> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic Beats and
> Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full set of
> legs.

Exactly. They WERE described as having 6 limbs, s I am alright to complain.

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #33336 ]

Mi, 11 Mai 2005 23:16

Rai

Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com says...
> > Rai wrote:
....
>> > unless you can cite me a reference, I maintain 500 years of
>> > tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
>>
>> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic Beats
>> and Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full
>> set of legs.

Yup, that reference will do. Now you mention it, I vaguely recall that
book and the accompanying Quidditch rules being announced, though I
never looked at them. Clearly to my detriment, in terms of sounding
authoritative about the Potter mythos. Doh. <:)

> Exactly. They WERE described as having 6 limbs, s I am alright to complain.

True enough, and I apologise for doubting you. Doesn't change the fact
that wyverns still have only forelimbs, though. >:)
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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #34074 ]

Do, 12 Mai 2005 19:23

rbf

Rai:
> Draco18s:
> ...
> > I know that there are four, but...
> > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
> > That one distinctly has no front legs.
>
> You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between wyverns
and
> dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often portrayed
> without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come to an
> official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them
lacking
> /back/ legs.
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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #34080 ]

Fr, 13 Mai 2005 09:53

Draco18s

In article <MPG.1cec867418219f46989842 [at] usenet.plus.net>, Rai [at] dev.nul says...
> Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> > spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com says...
> > > Rai wrote:
> ...
> >> > unless you can cite me a reference, I maintain 500 years of
> >> > tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
> >>
> >> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic Beats
> >> and Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full
> >> set of legs.
>
> Yup, that reference will do. Now you mention it, I vaguely recall that
> book and the accompanying Quidditch rules being announced, though I
> never looked at them. Clearly to my detriment, in terms of sounding
> authoritative about the Potter mythos. Doh. <:)
>
> > Exactly. They WERE described as having 6 limbs, s I am alright to complain.
>
> True enough, and I apologise for doubting you. Doesn't change the fact
> that wyverns still have only forelimbs, though. >:)

What you said 'tis true, however, what is a hind-legged wyvern, if not a
wyvern?
Although Dictionaryy.com reports:
A two-legged dragon having wings and a barbed tail.
-or-
a fire-breathing dragon used in medieval heraldry; had the head of a dragon
and the tail of a snake and a body with wings and two legs.

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35913 ]

Fr, 13 Mai 2005 18:16

Lord Nargus StreamWar

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signal is said to be from Draco18s
<draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> with following message:

>In article <J4dge.73416$c24.51875 [at] attbi_s72>, spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com
>says...
>> Rai wrote:
>>
>> > Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
>> > ...
>> > > I know that there are four, but...
>> > > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
>> > > That one distinctly has no front legs.
>> >
>> > You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between wyverns
>> > and dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often portrayed
>> > without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come to an
>> > official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them
>> > lacking back legs.
>> >
>> > I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the Potter
>> > novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I maintain
>> > 500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
>>
>> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic Beats and
>> Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full set of
>> legs.
>
>Exactly. They WERE described as having 6 limbs, s I am alright to complain.

*cry* They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
not Hangarian Wyvern! *crying*

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35920 ]

Fr, 13 Mai 2005 21:17

Draco18s

In article <cmk9819fnhk7qmccsvl0k7d2q2378uq0m3 [at] 4ax.com>, nargus_411
[at] hotmail.com says...
> In the wind of Alfandria, a signal detected by a megical receiver. The
> signal is said to be from Draco18s
> <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> with following message:
>
> >In article <J4dge.73416$c24.51875 [at] attbi_s72>, spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com
> >says...
> >> Rai wrote:
> >>
> >> > Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> >> > ...
> >> > > I know that there are four, but...
> >> > > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
> >> > > That one distinctly has no front legs.
> >> >
> >> > You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between wyverns
> >> > and dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often portrayed
> >> > without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come to an
> >> > official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them
> >> > lacking back legs.
> >> >
> >> > I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the Potter
> >> > novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I maintain
> >> > 500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
> >>
> >> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic Beats and
> >> Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full set of
> >> legs.
> >
> >Exactly. They WERE described as having 6 limbs, s I am alright to complain.
>
> *cry* They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
> not Hangarian Wyvern! *crying*

*Pouts too* I know I know! }:_3(

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35930 ]

Fr, 13 Mai 2005 23:56

SHARPSHARK

"Draco18s" <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> a écrit dans
le message de news: MPG.1ceec74d1c85fb42989854 [at] news.x-privat.org...
> In article <cmk9819fnhk7qmccsvl0k7d2q2378uq0m3 [at] 4ax.com>, nargus_411
> [at] hotmail.com says...
>> In the wind of Alfandria, a signal detected by a megical receiver.
>> The
>> signal is said to be from Draco18s
>> <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> with following
>> message:
>>
>> >In article <J4dge.73416$c24.51875 [at] attbi_s72>,
>> >spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com
>> >says...
>> >> Rai wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
>> >> > ...
>> >> > > I know that there are four, but...
>> >> > > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
>> >> > > That one distinctly has no front legs.
>> >> >
>> >> > You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between
>> >> > wyverns
>> >> > and dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often
>> >> > portrayed
>> >> > without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come
>> >> > to an
>> >> > official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them
>> >> > lacking back legs.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the
>> >> > Potter
>> >> > novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I
>> >> > maintain
>> >> > 500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
>> >>
>> >> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic
>> >> Beats and
>> >> Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full
>> >> set of
>> >> legs.
>> >
>> >Exactly. They WERE described as having 6 limbs, s I am alright to
>> >complain.
>>
>> *cry* They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
>> not Hangarian Wyvern! *crying*
>
> *Pouts too* I know I know! }:_3(

But wyverns are probably happy. Any wyverns here? ;)

Sharpshark

Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35931 ]

Sa, 14 Mai 2005 01:28

Rai

Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
....
> > True enough, and I apologise for doubting you. Doesn't change the
> > fact that wyverns still have only forelimbs, though. >:)
>
> What you said 'tis true, however, what is a hind-legged wyvern, if
> not a wyvern?

A dragon with no forelimbs, which can be found in many sources
described as such.

> Although Dictionaryy.com reports:
> A two-legged dragon having wings and a barbed tail.
> -or-
> a fire-breathing dragon used in medieval heraldry; had the head of
> a dragon and the tail of a snake and a body with wings and two legs.

Neither of these definitions actually contradicts what I was saying, of
course. They merely omit to mention the forelimb part. :D
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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35932 ]

Sa, 14 Mai 2005 01:30

Rai

Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> nargus_411 [at] hotmail.com says...
....
> > *cry* They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
> > not Hangarian Wyvern! *crying*
>
> *Pouts too* I know I know! }:_3(

At root, I think we simply need to accept that Hollywood mucks around
with literature we love, and turns it into films we don't love so much.
Fact of life, alas.
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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35934 ]

Sa, 14 Mai 2005 02:47

Scott L

Rai wrote:

> Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> > nargus_411 [at] hotmail.com says...
> ...
> > > cry They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
> > > not Hangarian Wyvern! crying
> >
> > *Pouts too* I know I know! }:_3(
>
> At root, I think we simply need to accept that Hollywood mucks around
> with literature we love, and turns it into films we don't love so
> much. Fact of life, alas.

We also have to figure Rowling gave her approval on it, so it's not too
much of a departure from the overall intent of the story.

Still wish it were a true four-legged dragon!

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35935 ]

Sa, 14 Mai 2005 09:42

Lord Nargus StreamWar

In the wind of Alfandria, a signal detected by a megical receiver. The
signal is said to be from Rai <Rai [at] dev.nul> with following message:

>Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
>> nargus_411 [at] hotmail.com says...
>...
>> > *cry* They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
>> > not Hangarian Wyvern! *crying*
>>
>> *Pouts too* I know I know! }:_3(
>
>At root, I think we simply need to accept that Hollywood mucks around
>with literature we love, and turns it into films we don't love so much.
>Fact of life, alas.

Yeaa......

normal reader may not have much problem with drgaon turned into
wyvern, but to me it's.......... *crying*

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35942 ]

Sa, 14 Mai 2005 18:35

Draco18s

In article <MPG.1cef48798a335da8989846 [at] usenet.plus.net>, Rai [at] dev.nul says...
> Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> ...
> > > True enough, and I apologise for doubting you. Doesn't change the
> > > fact that wyverns still have only forelimbs, though. >:)
> >
> > What you said 'tis true, however, what is a hind-legged wyvern, if
> > not a wyvern?
>
> A dragon with no forelimbs, which can be found in many sources
> described as such.

An example perhaps?

> > Although Dictionaryy.com reports:
> > A two-legged dragon having wings and a barbed tail.
> > -or-
> > a fire-breathing dragon used in medieval heraldry; had the head of
> > a dragon and the tail of a snake and a body with wings and two legs.
>
> Neither of these definitions actually contradicts what I was saying, of
> course. They merely omit to mention the forelimb part. :D

True, I just was checking on the official definition, and by it we are both
right.

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35943 ]

Sa, 14 Mai 2005 18:36

Draco18s

In article <4285236d_2 [at] x-privat.org>, sharpshark2000 [at] hotmail.com says...
> "Draco18s" <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> a écrit dans
> le message de news: MPG.1ceec74d1c85fb42989854 [at] news.x-privat.org...
> > In article <cmk9819fnhk7qmccsvl0k7d2q2378uq0m3 [at] 4ax.com>, nargus_411
> > [at] hotmail.com says...
> >> In the wind of Alfandria, a signal detected by a megical receiver.
> >> The
> >> signal is said to be from Draco18s
> >> <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> with following
> >> message:
> >>
> >> >In article <J4dge.73416$c24.51875 [at] attbi_s72>,
> >> >spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com
> >> >says...
> >> >> Rai wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Quoth Draco18s <draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com>:
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> > > I know that there are four, but...
> >> >> > > *Points to the one in the trailer.*
> >> >> > > That one distinctly has no front legs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You're applying the Dungeons & Dragons distinction between
> >> >> > wyverns
> >> >> > and dragons, which is hardly universal. Dragons are often
> >> >> > portrayed
> >> >> > without forelimbs in artwork -- and the closest one can come
> >> >> > to an
> >> >> > official definition of wyverns, in medieval heraldry, has them
> >> >> > lacking back legs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't recall dragons ever being officially defined in the
> >> >> > Potter
> >> >> > novels themselves, so unless you can cite me a reference, I
> >> >> > maintain
> >> >> > 500 years of tradition trumps Gygax & co. :)
> >> >>
> >> >> They're described in detail in the charity book, "Fantastic
> >> >> Beats and
> >> >> Where to Find Them" by JK Rowling. Every species has the full
> >> >> set of
> >> >> legs.
> >> >
> >> >Exactly. They WERE described as having 6 limbs, s I am alright to
> >> >complain.
> >>
> >> *cry* They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
> >> not Hangarian Wyvern! *crying*
> >
> > *Pouts too* I know I know! }:_3(
>
> But wyverns are probably happy. Any wyverns here? ;)

*Rolls his eyes*
Sure, they are, but then they had Reign of Fire not to long ago.
*WE* haven't had a decent hexapod since Dragonheart (or DH2 if that movie
was considered decent).

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35957 ]

So, 15 Mai 2005 09:25

Lord Nargus StreamWar

In the wind of Alfandria, a signal detected by a megical receiver. The
signal is said to be from Draco18s
<draco18s2_DOES_NOT_ [at] _LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> with following message:

>> >> *cry* They did it all wrong! It should have been Hangarian Horntail
>> >> not Hangarian Wyvern! *crying*
>> >
>> > *Pouts too* I know I know! }:_3(
>>
>> But wyverns are probably happy. Any wyverns here? ;)
>
>*Rolls his eyes*
>Sure, they are, but then they had Reign of Fire not to long ago.
>*WE* haven't had a decent hexapod since Dragonheart (or DH2 if that movie
>was considered decent).

What about us making the next one? One that will be remembered the
great trilogy ever since Starwars and Lord of the Rings LOL! }:=8P

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35959 ]

So, 15 Mai 2005 20:22

Lord Flame Stryke

On 15 May 2005, Lord Nargus StreamWarrior was found to have scratched
news:a8ud81p3nd2j3n1frf70o7gjuh0k9vk7un [at] 4ax.com on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:

>>*Rolls his eyes*
>>Sure, they are, but then they had Reign of Fire not to long ago.
>>*WE* haven't had a decent hexapod since Dragonheart (or DH2 if that
>>movie was considered decent).
> What about us making the next one? One that will be remembered the
> great trilogy ever since Starwars and Lord of the Rings LOL! }:=8P

If we had the money and the talent, I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, I
don't have the money, nor the talent to do a cgi one. Although I do
have a sister who's trying to get into movies, so I'd be willing to ask
her to be in it, if we could make one.

Lord Flame Stryke

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Re: OT: Goblet of Fire trailer [message #35968 ]

Mo, 16 Mai 2005 07:04

Lord Nargus StreamWar

In the wind of Alfandria, a signal detected by a megical receiver. The
signal is said to be from Lord Flame Stryke <FlameStryke [at] gmail.com>
with following message:

>On 15 May 2005, Lord Nargus StreamWarrior was found to have scratched
>news:a8ud81p3nd2j3n1frf70o7gjuh0k9vk7un [at] 4ax.com on a rock in
>alt.fan.dragons:
>
>>>*Rolls his eyes*
>>>Sure, they are, but then they had Reign of Fire not to long ago.
>>>*WE* haven't had a decent hexapod since Dragonheart (or DH2 if that
>>>movie was considered decent).
>> What about us making the next one? One that will be remembered the
>> great trilogy ever since Starwars and Lord of the Rings LOL! }:=8P
>
>If we had the money and the talent, I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, I
>don't have the money, nor the talent to do a cgi one. Although I do
>have a sister who's trying to get into movies, so I'd be willing to ask
>her to be in it, if we could make one.

Ahh....I think that'd be a good start after all. *wink*

>Lord Flame Stryke

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