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Science Fiction » alt.fan.douglas-adams » that movie was the best ever
that movie was the best ever [message #29683] So, 08 Mai 2005 05:12
meneg  
I lied. What an abomination for a movie. Why? Simple.

I like sci-fi comedies with extremely smart jokes that at the same time
respect my intelligence, better than sci-fi romance dramas with rare
additions of comedy that are poorly extracted from more intelligent jokes.

And if you don't like that explanation, think this: This was the
hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy for * sake! Don't tell me I'm too narrow
minded. If you get to the video store you'll find 1.000.000.000 silly
sci-fi movies. Then try to find sci-fi comedies with really smart jokes.
You'll have to try hard, because this was one of the few chances we got to
have one. Our expectations were failed. These are sad days for those that
truly respect adams' work and not silly jokes for 8 year olds. Let's hope
someone hears our voices and tries better next time.
Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29692 ] So, 08 Mai 2005 09:10
Ramin  
It was a movie.

People who want more than a movie read a book.

The movie satisfied both familiar and unfamiliar audiences. The former
by including just enough references to laugh about not-so-obvious
little things. The latter by making them laugh at something else while
they're tickling the former. And the French have their cheese.

The way I see it, you should go not expecting Douglas Adams' work, but
rather Garth Jennings' view on Adams' work.

I loved it. The entire theatre I was in loved it. It is my view that
people who DIDN'T like it do so merely to fulfil the Hegelian
dialectic.

Or maybe you just need a hug.

Either way, I do respect your view on this and promise to not insult
you directly to your face.


Figure Sold Separately,
Ramin, the Empyrean
Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29708 ] So, 08 Mai 2005 12:26
Peter  
"Ramin" <rmarghi [at] gmail.com> wrote in
news:1115536204.977894.235840 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> It was a movie.
>
> People who want more than a movie read a book.
>
> The movie satisfied both familiar and unfamiliar audiences. The
> former by including just enough references to laugh about
> not-so-obvious little things. The latter by making them laugh at
> something else while they're tickling the former. And the French
> have their cheese.
>
The books, I am told, sold in great numbers. You don't have to dumb
things right down and only make references to the good bits to get an
audience. What was managed with older versions was a cult following,
but a large percentage of the population joined said cult. I just
don't see that happening with this film.

The cameos and things were nice as fan service, but it really should
have been introducing a new generation to the things that created the
fans.

It was a fun movie and I enjoyed watching it, but I think it could have
been deep and clever too.

I'd be interested to hear more of the views of people who weren't
familiar with the story before seeing it, and were impressed enough to
find this place. I guess the part of the population that could become
hitchhiker's fans but has somehow not encountered it is fairly small
though.

peter
Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29709 ] So, 08 Mai 2005 13:27
GLH42  
This is kind of second hand, in as much as it's reported reactions of
two mates of mine. Neither of whom was a Hitchhiker's fan before the
film. The first saw the film with Hitchhiker's fans and thus had
missing bits/explainations provided to him - he has decided to read
the books and listen to the radio series. I think he's about half way
through the Primary Phase now.

The second, went on his own. He said the film was "okay" and that he
might read the books or listen to the radio series in future. there
was nothing definate about his reaction to the film.

If the film is looked at as a way of introducing people to an oft
quoted story, then it only works if the film is seen with established
fans. That way the bits missing from the story can be provided. If it
isn't seen with established fans, it seems to be a failure - in the
context of introducing new people to DNA's work.

Neither of my two mates were keen enough to know more about DNA to look
for this froup.

Not that anything I've posted here really proves or disproves anything
'tis only my opinion :-)

Cheers,

Gary
Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29719 ] So, 08 Mai 2005 15:07
Forrest  
meneg wrote:
> If you get to the video store you'll find 1.000.000.000 silly
> sci-fi movies. Then try to find sci-fi comedies with really smart jokes.

BOMB #20: Well of course I exist.

DOOLITTLE: But how do you know you exist?

BOMB #20: It is intuitively obvious.

DOOLITTLE: Intuition is no proof. What concrete evidence do you
have of your own existence?

BOMB #20: Hmm... Well, I think, therefore I am.

DOOLITTLE: That's good. Very good. Now then, how do you know that
anything else exists?

BOMB #20: My sensory apparatus reveals it to me.

DOOLITTLE: Right.

BOMB #20: This is fun!



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Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29762 ] So, 08 Mai 2005 19:22
John Coxon  
In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, meneg's voice said the following,
in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so low as to
make a man weep:

> I lied. What an abomination for a movie. Why? Simple.

I'll quote something that M.J. Simpson said which I believe blows these
arguments out of the water:

"Wish fulfillment is all very well but it doesn't get forty million dollar
movies made."

HHGG wouldn't have been made if it had remained the same as the books.
There is proof - the fact that it wasn't made for 25 years after the first
radio series, for example.

I felt they did a good job, and the new bits felt HHGG-like. It was, I
feel, probably the best it could have been. The new parts were funny, most
of them, and I was glad to see Trillian and Arthur finally get together.

--
John Coxon

A day for firm decisions!!! Or is it?

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
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Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29786 ] So, 08 Mai 2005 21:50
Ramin  
Oooh... good argument.
Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29788 ] So, 08 Mai 2005 21:48
meneg  
On Sun, 08 May 2005 04:27:51 -0700, GLH42 wrote:

> If itisn't seen with established fans, it seems to be a failure - in the
> context of introducing new people to DNA's work.

Exactly. I'm sorry for the harsh start of this thread, (saturday night
maybe are not for new posts) but I don't have sth "against" the movie
creators really. They did a hard job and they didn't have the budget of
the lord of the rings. However, only someone that has read the books,
watched the tv show, listened to the radio show, would appreciate the
story - even though it was altered.
Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29831 ] Mo, 09 Mai 2005 00:55
meneg  
On Sun, 08 May 2005 18:22:27 +0100, John Coxon wrote:

> I felt they did a good job, and the new bits felt HHGG-like. It was, I
> feel, probably the best it could have been. The new parts were funny, most
> of them, and I was glad to see Trillian and Arthur finally get together.

I'm sorry for the harsh wording on the first message, maybe I shouldn't
post a bit drunk:p However, I felt that certaintly it wasn't the best it
could be to be honest. The best it could be, would certaintly let the
movie open for a series. The way the story was uterly changed this is now
impossible or impossible without creating a completely new story.

What I liked: The acting of zophod, trillian arthur, about half of the
guide entries and the scenes of the ultimate question machine. Those parts
were fine.
Re: that movie was the best ever [message #29860 ] Mo, 09 Mai 2005 04:14
Ramin  
Well, actually, in the beginning, Trillian's acting was somewhat...
artificial... but it eventually warmed up.
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