| Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29464] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 17:45 |
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Are the recordings: Primary Phase, Secondary Phase and Tertiary Phase
completely new recordings or repackaging of the original radio recordings?
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29475 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 18:44 |
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In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Ken L. Cheshire's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:
> Are the recordings: Primary Phase, Secondary Phase and Tertiary Phase
> completely new recordings or repackaging of the original radio recordings?
Primary and Secondary Phase are the first and second series which were done
1978-1980.
The Tertiary Phase was done in 2003-2004. No third series existed until
this time.
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29485 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 20:03 |
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Ken L. Cheshire wrote:
> Are the recordings: Primary Phase, Secondary Phase and Tertiary Phase
> completely new recordings or repackaging of the original radio recordings?
I think the primary and secondary were re-recordings....I don't think
the ones you buy in the shop are the original sessions as
broadcast....If I remember correctly, they all went into the studios and
completely re-recorded the whole thing for the tape/cd release....
I could of course be mistaken about this, but I'm certain I read it
somewhere....
Is the Tertiary phase available to buy yet?....
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29487 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 20:12 |
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Hi,
I know that the cast re-recorded the entire series for the two LP
releases. Not so sure that the radio series were rerecorded or
remastered though ;-)
The Tertiary Phase is available to buy - www.Amazon.co.uk/.com,
www.Play.com, www.BBCShop.com - to name three/four internet "outlets".
The BBC online shop also has both Quandary and Quintessential Phases
listed, although they haven't been released as yet :-D
Cheers
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29488 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 20:12 |
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Fat Sam <janetandsam [at] beeteeinternet.co.uk> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:
> Ken L. Cheshire wrote:
>> Are the recordings: Primary Phase, Secondary Phase and Tertiary
>> Phase completely new recordings or repackaging of the original radio
>> recordings?
>
> I think the primary and secondary were re-recordings....I don't think
> the ones you buy in the shop are the original sessions as
> broadcast....If I remember correctly, they all went into the studios
> and completely re-recorded the whole thing for the tape/cd release....
> I could of course be mistaken about this, but I'm certain I read it
> somewhere....
>
> Is the Tertiary phase available to buy yet?....
I was of the impression that it has been for sale on CD for some time
and was just released as DVD audio.
Take a look at bbshop.co.uk or amazon.co.uk; they probably have it.
/Rasmus
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29496 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 20:30 |
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GLH42 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know that the cast re-recorded the entire series for the two LP
> releases. Not so sure that the radio series were rerecorded or
> remastered though ;-)
Okay, so now I'm confused....The two LP's....Are they different to the
boxed set of 6 tapes containing the first 2 radio series?....
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29497 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 20:32 |
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Fat Sam wrote:
> GLH42 wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know that the cast re-recorded the entire series for the two LP
>> releases. Not so sure that the radio series were rerecorded or
>> remastered though ;-)
>
>
> Okay, so now I'm confused....The two LP's....Are they different to the
> boxed set of 6 tapes containing the first 2 radio series?....
>
I suppose they must be....I can't imagine them fitting 1.5 hours of
audio onto one side of an LP....
So am I right in assuming the LP's are a condensed version?
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29498 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 20:47 |
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Yeah, the LPs are sort of condensed. H2G2 is 2 LPs and about 80min
long. Restaurant is a single LP (contradiction in terms???) and about
40min long. I think they were re-recorded to remove copy-writed
material that the producers/production company couldn't get permission
for. The BBC didn't do the LPs, although (apparently) they were
offered the rights.
I though the radio series were made up of 6 half hour episodes each -
which would be 3 hours each or 6 hours for both Primary and
Secondary...I'm going to have to go and listen to them now to check -
sad isn't it? ;-)
Cheers
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29502 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 20:56 |
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"GLH42" <glh42 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115405267.480669.226950 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I though the radio series were made up of 6 half hour episodes each -
> which would be 3 hours each or 6 hours for both Primary and
> Secondary...I'm going to have to go and listen to them now to check -
> sad isn't it? ;-)
Yes, series 1, 2 and 3 are 6 x 30 minutes each.
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29504 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 21:43 |
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GLH42 wrote:
> Yeah, the LPs are sort of condensed. H2G2 is 2 LPs and about 80min
> long. Restaurant is a single LP (contradiction in terms???) and about
> 40min long. I think they were re-recorded to remove copy-writed
> material that the producers/production company couldn't get permission
> for. The BBC didn't do the LPs, although (apparently) they were
> offered the rights.
So, the BBC boxed set of cds or tapes containing the radio series
actually are the original sessions?....Oh I feel a lot happier
now....I'm going to listen to them all again, starting from tonight....
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29508 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 22:22 |
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Fat Sam wrote:
> GLH42 wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the LPs are sort of condensed. H2G2 is 2 LPs and about 80min
>> long. Restaurant is a single LP (contradiction in terms???) and about
>> 40min long. I think they were re-recorded to remove copy-writed
>> material that the producers/production company couldn't get permission
>> for. The BBC didn't do the LPs, although (apparently) they were
>> offered the rights.
>
>
> So, the BBC boxed set of cds or tapes containing the radio series
> actually are the original sessions?....Oh I feel a lot happier
> now....I'm going to listen to them all again, starting from tonight....
Yes, they are. Except for a very minor cut with some Pink Flyd music
they couldn't clear the rights for.
However:
http://zootle.net/afda/av/
has the bit with Marvin humming Pink Floyd, which is otherwise unavailable.
Best
Kåre
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29510 ] |
Fr, 06 Mai 2005 22:37 |
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Fat Sam <janetandsam [at] beeteeinternet.co.uk> wrote in news:3e1rhgFpln6U2
[at] individual.net:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> GLH42 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I know that the cast re-recorded the entire series for the two LP
>>> releases. Not so sure that the radio series were rerecorded or
>>> remastered though ;-)
>>
>>
>> Okay, so now I'm confused....The two LP's....Are they different to the
>> boxed set of 6 tapes containing the first 2 radio series?....
>>
>
> I suppose they must be....I can't imagine them fitting 1.5 hours of
> audio onto one side of an LP....
>
> So am I right in assuming the LP's are a condensed version?
>
I remember once reading a very clearly worded FAQ on the subject...but
Google is completely failing me.
From memory, then: the album is completely re-recorded, and probably lines
up better with the TV series than with the radio series. (For instance, it
has Disaster Area.) The BBC series also included a lot of licensed music
beyond just Journey Of The Sorcerer; I remember seeing Pink Floyd listed in
the radio script cues.
-HubCity
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29527 ] |
Sa, 07 Mai 2005 01:24 |
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"GLH42" <glh42 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in news:1115403144.887032.258280
[at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> I know that the cast re-recorded the entire series for the two LP
> releases. Not so sure that the radio series were rerecorded or
> remastered though ;-)
The Radio Scripts note that, in Fit the Fourth, the mice were redone after
the initial broadcast. And also in Fit the Twelfth, "keen eared listeners
might have noticed that some scenes were remixed for the subsequent
repeats, since at the time we had no time to do anything on the last scene
but add a little rain and some cat impersonations".
--
iain
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"how can you say that iain is a furyy fpevcg?!" - kristen
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29539 ] |
Sa, 07 Mai 2005 02:32 |
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"John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
> The Tertiary Phase was done in 2003-2004. No third series existed until
> this time.
Do you mean fourth ? The third series was available a while ago.
Steve M
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29549 ] |
Sa, 07 Mai 2005 04:15 |
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"Steve Marshall" <sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:427c0c04$0$39077$ed2e19e4 [at] ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>
>> The Tertiary Phase was done in 2003-2004. No third series existed until
>> this time.
>
> Do you mean fourth ? The third series was available a while ago.
>
The Tertiary Phase (Fits 13-18) wasn't aired until 2004.
Chiggy.
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29599 ] |
Sa, 07 Mai 2005 16:28 |
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In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Steve Marshall's voice said the
following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
low as to make a man weep:
> "John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>The Tertiary Phase was done in 2003-2004. No third series existed until
>>this time.
>
> Do you mean fourth ? The third series was available a while ago.
Um, yeah. About 2004 time, as a matter of fact. I do not mean the fourth -
I would have said 2004-2005 if I had.
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You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted then
used against you.
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29670 ] |
Sa, 07 Mai 2005 23:54 |
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"John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
> > "John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
> >
> >>The Tertiary Phase was done in 2003-2004. No third series existed until
> >>this time.
> >
> > Do you mean fourth ? The third series was available a while ago.
>
> Um, yeah. About 2004 time, as a matter of fact. I do not mean the
fourth -
> I would have said 2004-2005 if I had.
Do you mean then that there wasn't a 3rd radio series until they made a
third radio series ? Seems an odd thing to say if you ask me !
Steve M
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29706 ] |
So, 08 Mai 2005 12:00 |
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Steve Marshall wrote:
> "John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>>"John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>The Tertiary Phase was done in 2003-2004. No third series existed until
>>>>this time.
>>>
>>>Do you mean fourth ? The third series was available a while ago.
>>
>>Um, yeah. About 2004 time, as a matter of fact. I do not mean the
> fourth -
>
>>I would have said 2004-2005 if I had.
>
> Do you mean then that there wasn't a 3rd radio series until they made a
> third radio series ? Seems an odd thing to say if you ask me !
Not really in the context of the question. I understood completely what
John meant.
Best
Kåre
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #29751 ] |
So, 08 Mai 2005 19:14 |
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In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, Kaare Fiedler Christiansen's
voice said the following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with
distortion levels so low as to make a man weep:
> Steve Marshall wrote:
>
>> "John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>> "John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> The Tertiary Phase was done in 2003-2004. No third series existed
>>>>> until this time.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean fourth ? The third series was available a while ago.
>>>
>>> Um, yeah. About 2004 time, as a matter of fact. I do not mean the
>>> fourth - I would have said 2004-2005 if I had.
>>
>> Do you mean then that there wasn't a 3rd radio series until they made a
>> third radio series ? Seems an odd thing to say if you ask me !
>
> Not really in the context of the question. I understood completely what
> John meant.
That's a first. Nobody usually does. :-)
--
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A day for firm decisions!!! Or is it?
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #32020 ] |
Di, 10 Mai 2005 07:00 |
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In article <427bd200$0$717$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk>, Kaare
Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
> > GLH42 wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, the LPs are sort of condensed. H2G2 is 2 LPs and about 80min
> >> long. Restaurant is a single LP (contradiction in terms???) and about
> >> 40min long. I think they were re-recorded to remove copy-writed
> >> material that the producers/production company couldn't get permission
> >> for. The BBC didn't do the LPs, although (apparently) they were
> >> offered the rights.
> >
> >
> > So, the BBC boxed set of cds or tapes containing the radio series
> > actually are the original sessions?....Oh I feel a lot happier
> > now....I'm going to listen to them all again, starting from tonight....
>
> Yes, they are. Except for a very minor cut with some Pink Flyd music
> they couldn't clear the rights for.
>
> However:
> http://zootle.net/afda/av/
> has the bit with Marvin humming Pink Floyd, which is otherwise unavailable.
Hehe. Snicker. "Unavailable" except for on the LPs under the bed in
my spare bedroom. ;-)
Okay, okay, I don't want to confuse anyone. That bit is unavailable in
all the commercial recordings that I am aware of. The recordings of
the radio series are from the original sessions, except for that Pink
Floyd bit (where Marvin hums like Pink Floyd) which has been removed
due to licensing rights as mentioned in the preceding post.
The LPs that really are under the bed in the room next door are from a
bout of eBay insanity a few years ago whereby I procured a set of
original Hitchhiker LPs that were pressed for use in radio broadcast.
They were pressed by the BBC and sent to the CBC for broadcast in
Canada in those days before easy electronic file transfer and even
before CD for that matter. Tape would have been available, but I
suspect it was not deemed high enough quality to broadcast over the air
in most cases. Hence, the existence of the LPs I have. They only date
back to I believe 1981. I don't know how many sets there are/were that
were made like this, but probably not too many.
</gloat>
The radio series sessions were never released on commercially available
LPs that I know of, only cassettes then later CDs. The LPs mentioned
in the preceding posts were made in an entirely different recording
session with even some of the cast being replaced.
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #32530 ] |
Di, 10 Mai 2005 13:51 |
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Kaare Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>
>> GLH42 wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, the LPs are sort of condensed. H2G2 is 2 LPs and about 80min
>>> long. Restaurant is a single LP (contradiction in terms???) and about
>>> 40min long. I think they were re-recorded to remove copy-writed
>>> material that the producers/production company couldn't get permission
>>> for. The BBC didn't do the LPs, although (apparently) they were
>>> offered the rights.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, the BBC boxed set of cds or tapes containing the radio series
>> actually are the original sessions?....Oh I feel a lot happier
>> now....I'm going to listen to them all again, starting from tonight....
>
>
> Yes, they are. Except for a very minor cut with some Pink Flyd music
> they couldn't clear the rights for.
>
> However:
> http://zootle.net/afda/av/
> has the bit with Marvin humming Pink Floyd, which is otherwise unavailable.
Hmmmm....I've just downloaded that....Now, as I'm sitting around the
house today, bored with nothing to do, and a little bit depressed
because I was truned down for a high paying web-dev job this morning, I
think I'll fire up my multitrack software and see if I can't edit that
clip back into the episode, in the right place....
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #33990 ] |
Do, 12 Mai 2005 18:25 |
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Fat Sam wrote:
> Kaare Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
>
>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>
>>> GLH42 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, the LPs are sort of condensed. H2G2 is 2 LPs and about 80min
>>>> long. Restaurant is a single LP (contradiction in terms???) and about
>>>> 40min long. I think they were re-recorded to remove copy-writed
>>>> material that the producers/production company couldn't get permission
>>>> for. The BBC didn't do the LPs, although (apparently) they were
>>>> offered the rights.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, the BBC boxed set of cds or tapes containing the radio series
>>> actually are the original sessions?....Oh I feel a lot happier
>>> now....I'm going to listen to them all again, starting from tonight....
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, they are. Except for a very minor cut with some Pink Flyd music
>> they couldn't clear the rights for.
>>
>> However:
>> http://zootle.net/afda/av/
>> has the bit with Marvin humming Pink Floyd, which is otherwise
>> unavailable.
>
>
> Hmmmm....I've just downloaded that....Now, as I'm sitting around the
> house today, bored with nothing to do, and a little bit depressed
> because I was truned down for a high paying web-dev job this morning, I
> think I'll fire up my multitrack software and see if I can't edit that
> clip back into the episode, in the right place....
I always wanted to do that, but never got around to it :-)
Best
Kåre
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| Re: Radio Recording Clarification Needed [message #33993 ] |
Do, 12 Mai 2005 19:08 |
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Kaare Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>
>> Kaare Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
>>
>>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> GLH42 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, the LPs are sort of condensed. H2G2 is 2 LPs and about 80min
>>>>> long. Restaurant is a single LP (contradiction in terms???) and about
>>>>> 40min long. I think they were re-recorded to remove copy-writed
>>>>> material that the producers/production company couldn't get permission
>>>>> for. The BBC didn't do the LPs, although (apparently) they were
>>>>> offered the rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, the BBC boxed set of cds or tapes containing the radio series
>>>> actually are the original sessions?....Oh I feel a lot happier
>>>> now....I'm going to listen to them all again, starting from tonight....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, they are. Except for a very minor cut with some Pink Flyd music
>>> they couldn't clear the rights for.
>>>
>>> However:
>>> http://zootle.net/afda/av/
>>> has the bit with Marvin humming Pink Floyd, which is otherwise
>>> unavailable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmmm....I've just downloaded that....Now, as I'm sitting around the
>> house today, bored with nothing to do, and a little bit depressed
>> because I was truned down for a high paying web-dev job this morning,
>> I think I'll fire up my multitrack software and see if I can't edit
>> that clip back into the episode, in the right place....
>
>
> I always wanted to do that, but never got around to it :-)
LOL...If it sounds in any way decent, I'll upload it to my server so you
can download it....It will probably sounds really badly shoehorned in,
given my mediochre sound engineer skills, LOL....
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