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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof
| Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28074] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 01:14 |
|
Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is being
sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar Galactica series
by the wealthy fatcat Hollywood Homosexual
Neo-Conservatives in Hollywood who control the series.
=============================
I reprise some of the facts here:
1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back In the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship
was the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.
The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz-like
prison attack.
Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals.
Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better believe that
the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the possible
Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
Why do you think that the statements "You Bet Your Arse" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?
So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the
side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day:
Apollo being pulled down to the ground face down, sunny side up in an
Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a
pattern in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is
about to be raped by another man.
The producers of this series are desperate to show at the very least the
symbolism of Sodomy in the series.
It is very important to them.
3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II,
the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer
is approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
Her response is "oh no, this is not happening".
Many Homosexuals just love to be the first one to turn someone, maybe your
son, perhaps in that Catholic Church rectory, onto that special secret
intimacy they promote, for the first time. They are absolutely loving this
scene.
They respond to Boomer: "you're confused and scared... but it's ok", as
they forcibly take off her helmet and start caressing her without her
permission.
It appears that she is in the process of being homosexual gang raped.
You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even
some sororities on some campuses with a new inductee.
Anyone seen Reform School Girls with Wendy O. Williams " ?
USA Network used to show it regularly.
Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon".
Right there, the obvious implication was that she was about to say
"I am not a Homosexual".
She then says her parents are a man and a woman:
"My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."
The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that
we have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual:
"You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you...
no matter what you do. Don't worry about us.
We'll see you again. We love you, sharon.
And we always will."
If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex.
So Why fight the feeling. Do it now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.
As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives.
I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode based on
this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been approved
by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little careful
about how close they mirror the show.
One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being
crowbar-ed into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from
this scene about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it
is -- the writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting
up the money for the production.
For example, some here have assumed that in this scene Boomer is programmed,
or re-programmed to aasassinate William Adama, by this contact with her
Boomer-copy sisters.
Some have even claimed that the taking off of the helmet was significant in
that it further exposed her brain to the telepathic communications
wavelengths being sent to her.
But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally
ulterior motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat
masters.
========================================
Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28075 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 01:25 |
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"John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5Hcee.6102$D91.5821 [at] fed1read01...
> Here is part of the case that proves that .........
you're a loonie
--
Qa ' PLONK
Kweeg
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28076 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 01:26 |
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On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
<jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Hilarious!!! I loved it.
Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
|
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28079 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 01:55 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:WRcee.1221900$8l.460675 [at] pd7tw1no...
> "John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5Hcee.6102$D91.5821 [at] fed1read01...
> > Here is part of the case that proves that .........
> you're a loonie
> Qa ' PLONK
> Kweeg
Come on, make the truth at least part of your daily diet.
You know I am right.
=================================
Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is being
sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar Galactica series
by the wealthy fatcat Hollywood Homosexual
Neo-Conservatives in Hollywood who control the series.
=============================
I reprise some of the facts here:
1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back In the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship
was the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.
The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz-like
prison attack.
Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals.
Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better believe that
the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the possible
Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
Why do you think that the statements "You Bet Your Arse" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?
So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the
side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day:
Apollo being pulled down to the ground face down, sunny side up in an
Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a
pattern in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is
about to be raped by another man.
The producers of this series are desperate to show at the very least the
symbolism of Sodomy in the series.
It is very important to them.
3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II,
the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer
is approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
Her response is "oh no, this is not happening".
Many Homosexuals just love to be the first one to turn someone, maybe your
son, perhaps in that Catholic Church rectory, onto that special secret
intimacy they promote, for the first time. They are absolutely loving this
scene.
They respond to Boomer: "you're confused and scared... but it's ok", as
they forcibly take off her helmet and start caressing her without her
permission.
It appears that she is in the process of being homosexual gang raped.
You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even
some sororities on some campuses with a new inductee.
Anyone seen Reform School Girls with Wendy O. Williams " ?
USA Network used to show it regularly.
Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon".
Right there, the obvious implication was that she was about to say
"I am not a Homosexual".
She then says her parents are a man and a woman:
"My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."
The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that
we have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual:
"You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you...
no matter what you do. Don't worry about us.
We'll see you again. We love you, sharon.
And we always will."
If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex.
So Why fight the feeling. Do it now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.
As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives.
I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode based on
this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been approved
by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little careful
about how close they mirror the show.
One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being
crowbar-ed into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from
this scene about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it
is -- the writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting
up the money for the production.
For example, some here have assumed that in this scene Boomer is programmed,
or re-programmed to aasassinate William Adama, by this contact with her
Boomer-copy sisters.
Some have even claimed that the taking off of the helmet was significant in
that it further exposed her brain to the telepathic communications
wavelengths being sent to her.
But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally
ulterior motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat
masters.
========================================
Politics
Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28080 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 02:11 |
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"David" <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pfmi71h10id5gbuul9pqftotj8lndvj0et [at] 4ax.com...
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
> <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
> Hilarious!!! I loved it.
> Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
Nah, I do not believe that the Hollywood Homosexuals
in control BSG meant this stuff as satire.
They are dead serious about selling Sodomy
to you and your Son.
Politics
=================================
>>Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is
>>being sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar
>>Galactica series by the wealthy fatcat Hollywood
>>Homosexual Neo-Conservatives in Hollywood who control
>>the series.
>>
>>=============================
>>
>>I reprise some of the facts here:
>>
>>1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a
>>continuing Homosexual agenda and determination to sell
>>Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by crook. Back
>>In the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak
>>relationship was the producers trying to put Apollo and
>>Zerak in bed together.
>>
>>The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then
>>hit their true target which was to show Apollo being
>>dragged to the ground face down in an Oz-like prison
>>attack. Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major
>>celebratory day for European homosexuals. Apparently,
>>in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
>>believe that the producers will be determined to
>>reestablish and develop the possible Homosexual
>>relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
>>
>>Why do you think that the statements "You Bet Your
>>Arse" and "The Back Door is Open" when such prominent
>>parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God), both in
>>reference to Apollo ?
>>
>>So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this
>>series or if you have kids you do not want to be sold
>>Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
>>
>>2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar
>>producers show us the side of Apollo they showed us in
>>episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to the
>>ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling
>>with another man. It should be clear now to everyone
>>watching this series that there is a pattern in showing
>>these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is
>>about to be raped by another man. The producers of this
>>series are desperate to show at the very least the
>>symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important
>>to them.
>>
>>3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last
>>Gleaming Part II, the Hollywood Homosexuals in control
>>of BSG were able to crowbar yet another Homosexual Rape
>>symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which
>>Boomer is approached and surrounded by what appears to
>>be around 5 semi-nude sister Boomer-copies who appear
>>to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
>>
>>Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many
>>Homosexuals just love to be the first one to turn
>>someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
>>Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they
>>promote, for the first time. They are absolutely
>>loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
>>confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly
>>take off her helmet and start caressing her without her
>>permission. It appears that she is in the process of
>>being homosexual gang raped.
>>
>>You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison
>>or even some sororities on some campuses with a new
>>inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with Wendy O.
>>Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
>>
>>Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the
>>obvious implication was that she was about to say "I am
>>not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a man
>>and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham
>>Valerii."
>>
>>The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual
>>promotional crap that we have heard here, over and over
>>again, that deep inside, everyone is a homosexual: "You
>>can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you...
>>no matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see
>>you again. We love you, sharon. And we always will."
>>
>>If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats
>>behind BSG, everyone is eventually going to engage in
>>Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it now.
>>Call of the wild, sort of thing.
>>
>>As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better
>>believe that the Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind
>>this series were jumping around slapping high fives. I
>>can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In
>>Space episode based on this content, except what SNL is
>>doing does not appear to have been approved by the
>>Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a
>>little careful about how close they mirror the show.
>>
>>One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes
>>like this being crowbar-ed into the script is: Should
>>we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene about
>>the direction of the overall story, or take it for what
>>it is -- the writers' penance to their Hollywood
>>Homosexual masters for putting up the money for the
>>production. For example, some here have assumed that in
>>this scene Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to
>>aasassinate William Adama, by this contact with her
>>Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the
>>taking off of the helmet was significant in that it
>>further exposed her brain to the telepathic
>>communications wavelengths being sent to her.
>>
>>But how can we know for sure when this scene already
>>serves a totally ulterior motive of the writers and
>>their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
>>========================================
>>
>>Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28082 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 02:28 |
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"John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Twdee.6110$D91.1485 [at] fed1read01...
> "David" <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pfmi71h10id5gbuul9pqftotj8lndvj0et [at] 4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
> > <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > Hilarious!!! I loved it.
> > Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
>
> Nah, I do not believe that the Hollywood Homosexuals
> in control BSG meant this stuff as satire.
> They are dead serious about selling Sodomy
> to you and your Son.
Are either your shift or caps lock key faulty, or is Random Capitalisation
an essential characteristic of being a paranoid conspiracy theorist? Or have
you capitalised "son" because you believe that David is God?
Please advise.
Ian
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28083 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 02:31 |
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John Shocked wrote:
>"David" <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:pfmi71h10id5gbuul9pqftotj8lndvj0et [at] 4ax.com...
>
>
>>On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
>><jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>><snip>
>>Hilarious!!! I loved it.
>>Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
>>
>>
>
>Nah, I do not believe that the Hollywood Homosexuals
>in control BSG meant this stuff as satire.
>They are dead serious about selling Sodomy
>to you and your Son.
>
>Politics
>
No you dolt, he referred to *your* rant as satire.
Homophobic paranoia at its finest....: John Shocked, tadaa!
Erwin
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28087 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 02:44 |
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"Dave" <galt_57 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115251543.074624.74760 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> John Shocked wrote:
> > Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is being
> > sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar Galactica series
> > [...]
> Strange that you seem to have such an intense interest in it.
I do take seriously any threat to the country and its children.
Are you going to wait to your Son comes to you with his
boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
will never raise a family ?
Why allow the Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG
to sell Sodomy to you and your Son ?
Besides, the corruptions of the scripts of scifi tv for them to
achieve this end makes a mockery of screenplay after
screenplay. After a while, you are simply watching nonsense.
Politics
>>Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is
>>being sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar
>>Galactica series by the wealthy fatcat Hollywood
>>Homosexual Neo-Conservatives in Hollywood who control
>>the series.
>>
>>=============================
>>
>>I reprise some of the facts here:
>>
>>1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a
>>continuing Homosexual agenda and determination to sell
>>Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by crook. Back
>>In the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak
>>relationship was the producers trying to put Apollo and
>>Zerak in bed together.
>>
>>The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then
>>hit their true target which was to show Apollo being
>>dragged to the ground face down in an Oz-like prison
>>attack. Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major
>>celebratory day for European homosexuals. Apparently,
>>in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
>>believe that the producers will be determined to
>>reestablish and develop the possible Homosexual
>>relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
>>
>>Why do you think that the statements "You Bet Your
>>Arse" and "The Back Door is Open" when such prominent
>>parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God), both in
>>reference to Apollo ?
>>
>>So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this
>>series or if you have kids you do not want to be sold
>>Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
>>
>>2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar
>>producers show us the side of Apollo they showed us in
>>episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to the
>>ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling
>>with another man. It should be clear now to everyone
>>watching this series that there is a pattern in showing
>>these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is
>>about to be raped by another man. The producers of this
>>series are desperate to show at the very least the
>>symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important
>>to them.
>>
>>3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last
>>Gleaming Part II, the Hollywood Homosexuals in control
>>of BSG were able to crowbar yet another Homosexual Rape
>>symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which
>>Boomer is approached and surrounded by what appears to
>>be around 5 semi-nude sister Boomer-copies who appear
>>to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
>>
>>Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many
>>Homosexuals just love to be the first one to turn
>>someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
>>Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they
>>promote, for the first time. They are absolutely
>>loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
>>confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly
>>take off her helmet and start caressing her without her
>>permission. It appears that she is in the process of
>>being homosexual gang raped.
>>
>>You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison
>>or even some sororities on some campuses with a new
>>inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with Wendy O.
>>Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
>>
>>Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the
>>obvious implication was that she was about to say "I am
>>not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a man
>>and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham
>>Valerii."
>>
>>The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual
>>promotional crap that we have heard here, over and over
>>again, that deep inside, everyone is a homosexual: "You
>>can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you...
>>no matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see
>>you again. We love you, sharon. And we always will."
>>
>>If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats
>>behind BSG, everyone is eventually going to engage in
>>Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it now.
>>Call of the wild, sort of thing.
>>
>>As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better
>>believe that the Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind
>>this series were jumping around slapping high fives. I
>>can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In
>>Space episode based on this content, except what SNL is
>>doing does not appear to have been approved by the
>>Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a
>>little careful about how close they mirror the show.
>>
>>One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes
>>like this being crowbar-ed into the script is: Should
>>we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene about
>>the direction of the overall story, or take it for what
>>it is -- the writers' penance to their Hollywood
>>Homosexual masters for putting up the money for the
>>production. For example, some here have assumed that in
>>this scene Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to
>>aasassinate William Adama, by this contact with her
>>Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the
>>taking off of the helmet was significant in that it
>>further exposed her brain to the telepathic
>>communications wavelengths being sent to her.
>>
>>But how can we know for sure when this scene already
>>serves a totally ulterior motive of the writers and
>>their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
>>========================================
>>
>>Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28090 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 03:52 |
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"Jaxtraw" <jaxtraw [at] nospamnobigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:42796801$0$550$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> "John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Twdee.6110$D91.1485 [at] fed1read01...
> > "David" <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:pfmi71h10id5gbuul9pqftotj8lndvj0et [at] 4ax.com...
> > > On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
> > > <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > Hilarious!!! I loved it.
> > > Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
> > Nah, I do not believe that the Hollywood Homosexuals
> > in control BSG meant this stuff as satire.
> > They are dead serious about selling Sodomy
> > to you and your Son.
> Are either your shift or caps lock key faulty, or is Random Capitalisation
> an essential characteristic of being a paranoid conspiracy theorist? Or
have
> you capitalised "son" because you believe that David is God?
> Please advise.
> Ian
Since I have never read scripture, "Son" does not have any special
meaning to me other than an emphasis on one's own Child,
which one should seek to protect.
There is nothing random about my prose, other than the
occasional typo.
In the BSG Bastille Day episode, when they crowbar the term
"choosing sides" again and again in reference to Apollo,
again, this vergiage is there not to propel the science fiction
storyline but instead to conjure up notions of homosexual
ambivalence within Apollo (e.g. sunny side up).
After a while, the script simply becomes a putrid lump
of mincemeat for the Hollywood Homosexuals in control
to play in.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28091 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 03:54 |
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"Erwin" <roosjen [at] quicknet.nl> wrote in message
news:c82ee$4279698b$d47fe366$26350 [at] news.multikabel.nl...
> John Shocked wrote:
> >"David" <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:pfmi71h10id5gbuul9pqftotj8lndvj0et [at] 4ax.com...
> >>On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
> >><jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> >><snip>
> >>Hilarious!!! I loved it.
> >>Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
> >Nah, I do not believe that the Hollywood Homosexuals
> >in control BSG meant this stuff as satire.
> >They are dead serious about selling Sodomy
> >to you and your Son.
> >Politics
> No you dolt, he referred to *your* rant as satire.
> Homophobic paranoia at its finest....: John Shocked, tadaa!
> Erwin
No he did not. You consider viewers objecting to homosexual
symbolisms in the script of science fiction TV targetted at you
and your Son to be "homophobia" ?
Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28092 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 03:56 |
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John Shocked wrote:
> Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is being
> sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar Galactica series
> by the wealthy fatcat Hollywood Homosexual
> Neo-Conservatives in Hollywood who control the series.
Hooray for them. :)
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28093 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 03:58 |
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John Shocked wrote:
> Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is being
> sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar Galactica series
> by the wealthy fatcat Hollywood Homosexual
> Neo-Conservatives in Hollywood who control the series.
Thanks, John. Compared to you, people like me seem normal. :)
Laura Goodwin, webmistress
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28094 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:01 |
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John Shocked wrote:
> I do take seriously any threat to the country and its children.
So, picket the Catholic church, and Michael Jackson.
> Are you going to wait to your Son comes to you with his
> boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
> will never raise a family ?
Hey now, Gays ~can so~ raise a family. Open your mind and heart.
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28096 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:06 |
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John Shocked wrote:
> No he did not. You consider viewers objecting to homosexual
> symbolisms in the script of science fiction TV targetted at you
> and your Son to be "homophobia" ?
TV script symbolisms of homosexuality are perfectly OK. Homosexuality
is perfectly OK, whether it's symbolic, fictional, overt, real, WHATEVER.
Homosexuality is OK. Get used to it.
Laura
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28098 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:27 |
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Kweeg wrote:
> John Shocked wrote:
>>Here is part of the case that proves that .........
>
> you're a loonie
Anyone got a cyber-ouija board?
I'd sure love to hear what Rock Hudson thinks about this!!!!!
C.
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28099 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:29 |
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David wrote:
> jshocked [at] hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Hilarious!!! I loved it.
>
> Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
The OP forgot the thinly-veiled repressed lesbian attraction Melanie had
for Scarlett in "GWTW" -- even Rhett Butler told Scarlett that Melanie
loved her, but he sure didn't understand why......
C.
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28100 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:31 |
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John Shocked wrote:
>
> I do take seriously any threat to the country and its children.
> Are you going to wait to your Son comes to you with his
> boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
> will never raise a family ?
I didn't realize Anita Bryant had been lurking at usenet for so many years.
C.
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28101 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:32 |
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John Shocked wrote:
>"Erwin" <roosjen [at] quicknet.nl> wrote in message
>news:c82ee$4279698b$d47fe366$26350 [at] news.multikabel.nl...
>
>
>>John Shocked wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"David" <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:pfmi71h10id5gbuul9pqftotj8lndvj0et [at] 4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
>>>><jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>><snip>
>>>>Hilarious!!! I loved it.
>>>>Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Nah, I do not believe that the Hollywood Homosexuals
>>>in control BSG meant this stuff as satire.
>>>They are dead serious about selling Sodomy
>>>to you and your Son.
>>>Politics
>>>
>>>
>>No you dolt, he referred to *your* rant as satire.
>>Homophobic paranoia at its finest....: John Shocked, tadaa!
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>
>No he did not. You consider viewers objecting to homosexual
>symbolisms in the script of science fiction TV targetted at you
>and your Son to be "homophobia" ?
>
>Politics
>
>
I do not consider "viewers objecting to homosexual symbolisms in the
script of science fiction TV targetted at you and your Son" homophobia,
no. Read before you bleat, please.
I consider *you* specifically paranoid for seeing so much symbolism in
sci-fi tv while it can be ignored or explain completely differently just
as easily.
And I consider you homophobic for being so rigidly against homosexuality
in any format. If you look up the word homophobic or homophobia, you'll
pretty much find the explanation of the adjective I used to describe
your 'rantings'. (Yes, I dubbed them rantings, not anyone else.)
And I suspect you of being a hypocrit for only speaking of your son and
not of your daughter. Are lesbians better than homos or did you leave
them out so as not to overcomplicate the discussion?
As for ToolPackin'Mama: You have the same issue with symbolism as
mister Shocked here does, only for different purposes.
I'm actually getting pretty fed up with so many people just *having* to
see homosexual undertones in Star Trek (and other series, as John
Shocked here proves). In fact, I am willing to venture it is because of
the USA's comperatively chocking reluctancy to admit that homosexuality
exists and - in some of its forms, as with all forms of sexuality - is
actually quite normal, even for other life forms on earth, and should
not be considered a sickness at all. Some scientists claim it can even
be traced back to (a) specific gene(s), so it may actually be as normal
as humans with brown eyes or blue...
I guess my living in a country that respects homosexuality (the
Netherlands) has made me more open minded towards this entire issue. I
am heterosexual myself, and at the moment am convinced I would not ever
consider any kind of sexual interlude or -course with any male, but if
my son or daughter (if and when I get my own family) would say: "Dad,
I'm homosexual." I would never look at him or her with such open fear
and loathing as John Shocked's posts portray. At most I would hope for
another child of mine to be *hetero*sexual so I would not necessarily be
without grandchildren.
Now please turn it down a notch so I don't have to see the word
homosexuality in every other post!
Erwin
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28102 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:36 |
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manitou wrote:
> Anyone got a cyber-ouija board?
>
> I'd sure love to hear what Rock Hudson thinks about this!!!!!
LOL
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28103 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:37 |
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> John Shocked wrote:
>
>> I do take seriously any threat to the country and its children.
>
>
> So, picket the Catholic church, and Michael Jackson.
>
>> Are you going to wait to your Son comes to you with his
>> boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
>> will never raise a family ?
>
>
> Hey now, Gays ~can so~ raise a family. Open your mind and heart.
Raise a family, yes, but if a lesbian (for example) couple would want
children, it would need semen from outside its marriage. The lesbians
would be unable to have a child solely from their own DNA because
'making' children still requires something women can not provide. Same
for homos.
I guess this is merely a matter of semantics, but I felt compelled to
point it out regardless.
Erwin
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28104 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:38 |
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manitou wrote:
>
> The OP forgot the thinly-veiled repressed lesbian attraction Melanie had
> for Scarlett in "GWTW" -- even Rhett Butler told Scarlett that Melanie
> loved her, but he sure didn't understand why......
>
Hey now: it's one thing to see things that actually ARE THERE, and
another thing to see things that actually AREN'T THERE. :)
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28108 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:45 |
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John Shocked wrote:
> Are you going to wait to your Son comes to you with his
> boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
> will never raise a family ?
BTW, my HETEROSEXUAL son informed me that he and his longtime girlfriend
WHOM HE ADORES ~do~ intend to marry, but that _they NEVER WANT
CHILDREN~. What do you recommend that I, as a mother, say to _them_?
~DO TELL~.
Should they not marry? :)
Do Tell!
:)
Laura
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28109 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 04:52 |
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Erwin wrote:
> Raise a family, yes, but if a lesbian (for example) couple would want
> children, it would need semen from outside its marriage.
So? What if a heterosexual couple with a low-sperm-count husband wanted
children?
> The lesbians
> would be unable to have a child solely from their own DNA because
> 'making' children still requires something women can not provide.
So? What's FIVE MINUTES OUT OF A LIFETIME? Most lesbians I know got
their kids the old-fashioned way: not with a "turkey baster", but with
a bottle of wine, and a good friend. ;)
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28111 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 05:08 |
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Thus spake David <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> :
>On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
><jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>Hilarious!!! I loved it.
>
>Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
Either the drugs haven't kicked in or they have. Depends on whether
they're prescription or under the counter.
--
dillon
Women should be obscene and not absurd.
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28120 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 05:47 |
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"manitou" <manitou910 [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
news:XeidnU1mgvMJGeTfRVn-2g [at] rogers.com...
> Kweeg wrote:
> > John Shocked wrote:
> >>Here is part of the case that proves that .........
> > you're a loonie
> Anyone got a cyber-ouija board?
> I'd sure love to hear what Rock Hudson thinks about this!!!!!
> C.
Did Rock Hudson do any science fiction ?
At least he was in the closet about his personal homosexual
issues. He certainly was not attempting to sell Sodomy to
you and your Son.
What two adults might do in the privacy of their own home
is less important than when they decide to flaunt and
advertise their sexual deviance in the face of you and your Son.
Politics
==============================
>>"Wally Waltripp aka Talladega Rastus" <Squibnick [at] webtv.net> wrote in
message
>>news:307-42759E07-85 [at] storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...
>>> Do you really think The Adventures of Cueball" is the "Holy Grail"
>>> against which all subsequent scifi shows are measured, Shocko? A scary
>>> thought. You didn't like Deep Throat 9? [[DS9]] speaking of Cueball,
>>> d'you remember that ep when Riker is hitting up that...girl[?] from that
>>> supposedly androgynous race? Wasn't that just a shameful apologist forum
>>
>>First off, define: Cueball. Sounds like a character in the series
Sliders.
>>Second, I faintly remember Riker being involved in something
>>repulsive like that. You would have to post which episode name
>>and year it was for me to look it up and comment upon it.
>>
>>If it was The Outcast, the records show that that episode
>>first aired 03/16/1992, which was right in the middle
>>of the Clinton campaign for President which I have
>>previously discussed as the real turning point when
>>Hollywood Homosexuals Neo-Conservatives took control
>>in Hollywood and in the country.
>>
>>And it works right into the timeline of being 5 months
>>after the Death of Gene Roddenberry and the takeover
>>of the Star Trek franchise by Rick Berman.
>>Suddenly, the Star Trek TNG actors were being asked to
>>read scripts which expanded on the idea of Sodomy being
>>'just another life choice' and Stewart it seems, to his credit,
>>reacted against this.
>>
>>Politics
>>=========================================
>>In these 1994 SNL skits, Patrick Stewart says:
>>"say No to anal sex !".
>>As such, Stewart, who I am sure contributed to both
>>of these 1994 Saturday Night Live scripts clearly wanted
>>to denounce the direction the Star Trek franchise took at
>>that time when it was taken over by Hollywood Homosexuals.
>>
>>Of course, Star Trek: The Next Generation was the
>>Gold Standard against which all the other subsequent
>>science fiction shows are measured.
>>
>>In 1994, this was Star Trek TNG's last year (1987-1994) and
>>Star Trek Deep Space Nine was the new series (1993-1999)
>>taking over. Gene Roddenberry died in Oct 1991, Rick
>>Berman took over control of the Star Trek franchise.
>>One clear difference between the two series was Sodomy.
>>ST DS9 has deep Sodomy symbolisms written directly into
>>the storyline
>>
>>Terry Farrell (a woman) had a symbiont/symbiant inside her
>>which was a man. And in fact, she was referred to by Sisko
>>as "Old Man" on a regular basis.
>>In addition, this ridiculous script item allowed the Rick Berman
>>Hollywood Homosexuals to write into the script scenarios where
>>Terry Farrell (a woman; note how even the actress's name is
>>sexually ambiguous) has affairs physically with other women,
>>such as with Susanna Thompson in the episode Rejoined.
>>
>>Clearly, this homosexuality which had taken over the
>>Star Trek franchise, was killing it, since I am sure I am
>>not the only guy who stopped watching Star Trek product
>>aroundthis period.
>>
>>Patrick Stewart as the elder stateman of the franchise
>>at this point clearly was intent, in the writing of these
>>Saturday Night Live scripts, on denouncing the
>>Rick Berman Hollywood Homosexuals who took over
>>the Star Trek franchise in 1991 and who still have control
>>of Star Trek content.
>>
>>Here is Rick Berman encouraging homosexuals to pose him
>>questions about introducing Sodomy into the Star Trek
>>scripts by interviewing with an obscure homosexual
>>publication in order to generate fake support for Sodomy
>>on the series.
>>I doubt Roddenberry would even have talked to this rag.
>>
>>http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/braga2003.html
>>
>>Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28122 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 05:49 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:117ivrg3se7505e [at] news.supernews.com...
> John Shocked wrote:
> > No he did not. You consider viewers objecting to homosexual
> > symbolisms in the script of science fiction TV targetted at you
> > and your Son to be "homophobia" ?
> TV script symbolisms of homosexuality are perfectly OK. Homosexuality
> is perfectly OK, whether it's symbolic, fictional, overt, real, WHATEVER.
> Homosexuality is OK. Get used to it.
> Laura
That is the stooge/sheep response.
What would be your reaction if your Son watched Battlestar Galactica
or Star Trek and decided to try out Sodomy as his first sexual encounter
and then became a homosexual for the rest of his life ?
That would be OK with you ?
Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28123 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 05:52 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:117j2ip47cins6e [at] news.supernews.com...
> Erwin wrote:
>
> > Raise a family, yes, but if a lesbian (for example) couple would want
> > children, it would need semen from outside its marriage.
>
> So? What if a heterosexual couple with a low-sperm-count husband wanted
> children?
>
> > The lesbians
> > would be unable to have a child solely from their own DNA because
> > 'making' children still requires something women can not provide.
>
> So? What's FIVE MINUTES OUT OF A LIFETIME? Most lesbians I know got
> their kids the old-fashioned way: not with a "turkey baster", but with
> a bottle of wine, and a good friend. ;)
Also, we all know that disabled people can't climb stairs on their own.
That's the natural way of things. What kind of liberal sickos would put
ramps in for wheelchairs?
/sarcasm, for those reading this out of context on good old Google groups.
Ian
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28124 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 05:52 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:117j1jghm8uvh88 [at] news.supernews.com...
> manitou wrote:
> > Anyone got a cyber-ouija board?
> > I'd sure love to hear what Rock Hudson thinks about this!!!!!
> LOL
As I say, at least Hudson, kept his sexual deviance in the closet and
did not attempt to sell it to you and your Son.
Politics
======================================
>>"Wally Waltripp aka Talladega Rastus" <Squibnick [at] webtv.net> wrote in
message
>>news:307-42759E07-85 [at] storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...
>>> Do you really think The Adventures of Cueball" is the "Holy Grail"
>>> against which all subsequent scifi shows are measured, Shocko? A scary
>>> thought. You didn't like Deep Throat 9? [[DS9]] speaking of Cueball,
>>> d'you remember that ep when Riker is hitting up that...girl[?] from that
>>> supposedly androgynous race? Wasn't that just a shameful apologist forum
>>
>>First off, define: Cueball. Sounds like a character in the series
Sliders.
>>Second, I faintly remember Riker being involved in something
>>repulsive like that. You would have to post which episode name
>>and year it was for me to look it up and comment upon it.
>>
>>If it was The Outcast, the records show that that episode
>>first aired 03/16/1992, which was right in the middle
>>of the Clinton campaign for President which I have
>>previously discussed as the real turning point when
>>Hollywood Homosexuals Neo-Conservatives took control
>>in Hollywood and in the country.
>>
>>And it works right into the timeline of being 5 months
>>after the Death of Gene Roddenberry and the takeover
>>of the Star Trek franchise by Rick Berman.
>>Suddenly, the Star Trek TNG actors were being asked to
>>read scripts which expanded on the idea of Sodomy being
>>'just another life choice' and Stewart it seems, to his credit,
>>reacted against this.
>>
>>Politics
>>
>>
>>
>>=========================================
>>In these 1994 SNL skits, Patrick Stewart says:
>>"say No to anal sex !".
>>As such, Stewart, who I am sure contributed to both
>>of these 1994 Saturday Night Live scripts clearly wanted
>>to denounce the direction the Star Trek franchise took at
>>that time when it was taken over by Hollywood Homosexuals.
>>
>>Of course, Star Trek: The Next Generation was the
>>Gold Standard against which all the other subsequent
>>science fiction shows are measured.
>>
>>In 1994, this was Star Trek TNG's last year (1987-1994) and
>>Star Trek Deep Space Nine was the new series (1993-1999)
>>taking over. Gene Roddenberry died in Oct 1991, Rick
>>Berman took over control of the Star Trek franchise.
>>One clear difference between the two series was Sodomy.
>>ST DS9 has deep Sodomy symbolisms written directly into
>>the storyline
>>
>>Terry Farrell (a woman) had a symbiont/symbiant inside her
>>which was a man. And in fact, she was referred to by Sisko
>>as "Old Man" on a regular basis.
>>In addition, this ridiculous script item allowed the Rick Berman
>>Hollywood Homosexuals to write into the script scenarios where
>>Terry Farrell (a woman; note how even the actress's name is
>>sexually ambiguous) has affairs physically with other women,
>>such as with Susanna Thompson in the episode Rejoined.
>>
>>Clearly, this homosexuality which had taken over the
>>Star Trek franchise, was killing it, since I am sure I am
>>not the only guy who stopped watching Star Trek product
>>aroundthis period.
>>
>>Patrick Stewart as the elder stateman of the franchise
>>at this point clearly was intent, in the writing of these
>>Saturday Night Live scripts, on denouncing the
>>Rick Berman Hollywood Homosexuals who took over
>>the Star Trek franchise in 1991 and who still have control
>>of Star Trek content.
>>
>>Here is Rick Berman encouraging homosexuals to pose him
>>questions about introducing Sodomy into the Star Trek
>>scripts by interviewing with an obscure homosexual
>>publication in order to generate fake support for Sodomy
>>on the series.
>>I doubt Roddenberry would even have talked to this rag.
>>
>>http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/braga2003.html
>>
>>Politics
>>
>>
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28125 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 05:53 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:117j264fi0k8443 [at] news.supernews.com...
> John Shocked wrote:
>
> > Are you going to wait to your Son comes to you with his
> > boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
> > will never raise a family ?
>
> BTW, my HETEROSEXUAL son informed me that he and his longtime girlfriend
> WHOM HE ADORES ~do~ intend to marry, but that _they NEVER WANT
> CHILDREN~. What do you recommend that I, as a mother, say to _them_?
> ~DO TELL~.
>
> Should they not marry? :)
>
> Do Tell!
>
I think the correct response is to lock them in a room with just a bible for
company, until your daughter in law is in the family way. Or something. :)
Ian
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28126 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 05:58 |
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John Shocked wrote:
> "ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote
>>TV script symbolisms of homosexuality are perfectly OK. Homosexuality
>>is perfectly OK, whether it's symbolic, fictional, overt, real, WHATEVER.
>>Homosexuality is OK. Get used to it.
>>Laura
>
>
> That is the stooge/sheep response.
So you say! First time I ever heard it called that! LOL! Got any
proof? :)
> What would be your reaction if your Son watched Battlestar Galactica
> or Star Trek and decided to try out Sodomy as his first sexual encounter
> and then became a homosexual for the rest of his life ?
> That would be OK with you ?
Actually yes, that wouldn't bother me a bit. :) If both of my sons
turned out to be Gay, I'd love them anyway, and wish them only happiness.
I'd totally accept their lovers as members of my family.
"If you can sleep with him, I can sit with him!"
You got a problem with that? :)
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28127 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 06:04 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:117j6dj3nuvsm20 [at] news.supernews.com...
> John Shocked wrote:
> > "ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote
>
> >>TV script symbolisms of homosexuality are perfectly OK. Homosexuality
> >>is perfectly OK, whether it's symbolic, fictional, overt, real,
WHATEVER.
> >>Homosexuality is OK. Get used to it.
> >>Laura
> >
> >
> > That is the stooge/sheep response.
>
> So you say! First time I ever heard it called that! LOL! Got any
> proof? :)
>
> > What would be your reaction if your Son watched Battlestar Galactica
> > or Star Trek and decided to try out Sodomy as his first sexual encounter
> > and then became a homosexual for the rest of his life ?
> > That would be OK with you ?
>
> Actually yes, that wouldn't bother me a bit. :) If both of my sons
> turned out to be Gay, I'd love them anyway, and wish them only happiness.
>
> I'd totally accept their lovers as members of my family.
>
> "If you can sleep with him, I can sit with him!"
>
> You got a problem with that? :)
I wonder if John's going to enlighten us as to exactly what is wrong with
Sodomy. Come to that, I wonder if he'll tell us if Sodomy is worse than just
plain old sodomy.
Ian
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28128 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 06:15 |
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"John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7Hgee.6128$D91.4912 [at] fed1read01...
> "manitou" <manitou910 [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:XeidnU1mgvMJGeTfRVn-2g [at] rogers.com...
> > Kweeg wrote:
> > > John Shocked wrote:
> > >>Here is part of the case that proves that .........
> > > you're a loonie
> > Anyone got a cyber-ouija board?
> > I'd sure love to hear what Rock Hudson thinks about this!!!!!
> > C.
>
> Did Rock Hudson do any science fiction ?
> At least he was in the closet about his personal homosexual
> issues. He certainly was not attempting to sell Sodomy to
> you and your Son.
> What two adults might do in the privacy of their own home
> is less important than when they decide to flaunt and
> advertise their sexual deviance in the face of you and your Son.
>
John, do you by any chance have a son who is homosexual?
Just asking.
Ian
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek [message #28129 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 06:20 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> "ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote
>>So? What's FIVE MINUTES OUT OF A LIFETIME? Most lesbians I know got
>>their kids the old-fashioned way: not with a "turkey baster", but with
>>a bottle of wine, and a good friend. ;)
>
>
> Also, we all know that disabled people can't climb stairs on their own.
> That's the natural way of things. What kind of liberal sickos would put
> ramps in for wheelchairs?
There's lots of things that "aren't natural" that we accept anyway:
soap and baths, medicine and surgery, automobiles...
BTW, homosexuality actually isn't "unnatural". That's a myth that
science has debunked.
As for the Bible, I don't think that any modern Christian honestly
believes we should bring back the stoning-to-death of adulterers, and
other Old Testament BS.
BTW, Jesus never said word one against homosexuals. The one sin that
Jesus deplored the most was HYPOCRISY. To fully understand the
teachings of Jesus, try reading "the sermon on the mount". IMHO, all
"Christians" should memorize the sermon on the mount, and use that as
their blueprint for living.
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28130 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 06:21 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> "ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote
>>BTW, my HETEROSEXUAL son informed me that he and his longtime girlfriend
>>WHOM HE ADORES ~do~ intend to marry, but that _they NEVER WANT
>>CHILDREN~. What do you recommend that I, as a mother, say to _them_?
>>~DO TELL~.
>>
>>Should they not marry? :)
>>
>>Do Tell!
>>
>
>
> I think the correct response is to lock them in a room with just a bible for
> company, until your daughter in law is in the family way. Or something. :)
Fortunately for them, I'm not inclined that way. ;)
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28132 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 06:23 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> I wonder if John's going to enlighten us as to exactly what is wrong with
> Sodomy.
And what makes him think that Gays are only into sodomy? Hasn't he
heard of things like fellatio, and mutual masturbation?
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28137 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 06:55 |
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"Erwin" <roosjen [at] quicknet.nl> wrote in message
news:8e92d$4279864f$d47fe366$24619 [at] news.multikabel.nl...
> John Shocked wrote:
> >"Erwin" <roosjen [at] quicknet.nl> wrote in message
> >news:c82ee$4279698b$d47fe366$26350 [at] news.multikabel.nl...
> >>John Shocked wrote:
> >>>"David" <dimlan17 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:pfmi71h10id5gbuul9pqftotj8lndvj0et [at] 4ax.com...
> >>>>On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:14:09 -0700, "John Shocked"
> >>>><jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>><snip>
> >>>>Hilarious!!! I loved it.
> >>>>Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
> >>>Nah, I do not believe that the Hollywood Homosexuals
> >>>in control BSG meant this stuff as satire.
> >>>They are dead serious about selling Sodomy
> >>>to you and your Son.
> >>>Politics
> >>No you dolt, he referred to *your* rant as satire.
> >>Homophobic paranoia at its finest....: John Shocked, tadaa!
> >>Erwin
> >No he did not. You consider viewers objecting to homosexual
> >symbolisms in the script of science fiction TV targetted at you
> >and your Son to be "homophobia" ?
> >Politics
> I do not consider "viewers objecting to homosexual symbolisms in the
> script of science fiction TV targetted at you and your Son" homophobia,
> no. Read before you bleat, please.
Then what are you claiming is "homophobia" ?
> I consider *you* specifically paranoid for seeing so much symbolism in
> sci-fi tv while it can be ignored or explain completely differently just
> as easily.
I do not see why I should be forced to ignore objectionable content
while trying to watch a science fiction series.
In addition, as I have stated, that objectionable content can eventually
affect you and your Son or Daughter over a period of time.
Subliminal advertising is the most powerful type of advertising.
> And I consider you homophobic for being so rigidly against homosexuality
> in any format. If you look up the word homophobic or homophobia, you'll
> pretty much find the explanation of the adjective I used to describe
> your 'rantings'. (Yes, I dubbed them rantings, not anyone else.)
Most people believe that homosexuality is objectionable behavior.
I would also say that mist people on this Newsgroup agree with that.
However, many are afraid to state that they find the portrayal of
this material in their TV show to be objectionable.
Certainly, if your Son or Daughter becomes a homosexual after
watching this science fiction subliminal crap, you are likely to feel
just as bad.
> And I suspect you of being a hypocrite for only speaking of your son and
> not of your daughter. Are lesbians better than homos or did you leave
> them out so as not to overcomplicate the discussion?
Well homosexuality is homosexuality. However, Sodomy is a much more
disgusting act than whatever 2 women do, although that is sometimes
also, called Sodomy, because it brings the male procreative organ in
contact with another man's faeces. Thus, male homosexuality is much
more objectionable behavior than whatever women do with each other.
> As for ToolPackin'Mama: You have the same issue with symbolism as
> mister Shocked here does, only for different purposes.
> I'm actually getting pretty fed up with so many people just *having* to
> see homosexual undertones in Star Trek (and other series, as John
> Shocked here proves). In fact, I am willing to venture it is because of
> the USA's comparatively chocking reluctancy to admit that homosexuality
> exists and - in some of its forms, as with all forms of sexuality - is
> actually quite normal, even for other life forms on earth, and should
> not be considered a sickness at all. Some scientists claim it can even
> be traced back to (a) specific gene(s), so it may actually be as normal
> as humans with brown eyes or blue...
I have never seen homosexuality in the animal kingdom and have
only ever heard of it in reference to animals who are under human control,
such as in a zoo, where various chemicals such a pheromones are used
to induce sexual behavior.
> I guess my living in a country that respects homosexuality (the
> Netherlands) has made me more open minded towards this entire issue.
> I am heterosexual myself, and at the moment am convinced I would not ever
If this claim is true, I do not understand why you consider it your role
to defend what wealthy fatcat Hollywood Homosexuals in Hollywood
want to do to abuse you and your Son.
You think they respect you back ? You are just a sheep piece of
trash to be manipulated by them and they could not care less what
becomes of your Son, pursuant to their Sodomy advertising in their scripts.
> consider any kind of sexual interlude or -course with any male, but if
> my son or daughter (if and when I get my own family) would say: "Dad,
> I'm homosexual." I would never look at him or her with such open fear
> and loathing as John Shocked's posts portray. At most I would hope for
> another child of mine to be *hetero*sexual so I would not necessarily be
> without grandchildren.
> Now please turn it down a notch so I don't have to see the word
> homosexuality in every other post!
> Erwin
Sodomy dominates the science fiction franchises right now as it is obvious
that Hollywood Homosexuals believe that the demographic who watch
these shows are a prime target for promotion of homosexuality.
The scripts and storylines of these shows are being ruined in order to
crowbar one advertisement after another of Sodomy to you and
your Son.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28138 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 07:11 |
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"manitou" <manitou910 [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
news:XeidnUxmgvO0GOTfRVn-2g [at] rogers.com...
> David wrote:
> > jshocked [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> > <snip>
> > Hilarious!!! I loved it.
> > Wait... this was meant as satire, right?
> The OP forgot the thinly-veiled repressed lesbian attraction Melanie had
> for Scarlett in "GWTW" -- even Rhett Butler told Scarlett that Melanie
> loved her, but he sure didn't understand why......
> C.
I cannot remember all the content of that movie but I do not recall
any homosexuality in Gone With The Wind.
What is the OP ?
When these science fiction writers sit down to write their scripts,
they should not be hectored into including obligatory storylines
and script dialogue which represent their penance to the
Hollywood Homosexuals who put up some of the money
for the production.
Politics
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>>Here is part of the case that proves that Sodomy is
>>being sold to you and your Son in the Battlestar
>>Galactica series by the wealthy fatcat Hollywood
>>Homosexual Neo-Conservatives in Hollywood who control
>>the series.
>>
>>=============================
>>
>>I reprise some of the facts here:
>>
>>1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a
>>continuing Homosexual agenda and determination to sell
>>Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by crook. Back
>>In the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak
>>relationship was the producers trying to put Apollo and
>>Zerak in bed together.
>>
>>The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then
>>hit their true target which was to show Apollo being
>>dragged to the ground face down in an Oz-like prison
>>attack. Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major
>>celebratory day for European homosexuals. Apparently,
>>in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
>>believe that the producers will be determined to
>>reestablish and develop the possible Homosexual
>>relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
>>
>>Why do you think that the statements "You Bet Your
>>Arse" and "The Back Door is Open" when such prominent
>>parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God), both in
>>reference to Apollo ?
>>
>>So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this
>>series or if you have kids you do not want to be sold
>>Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
>>
>>2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar
>>producers show us the side of Apollo they showed us in
>>episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to the
>>ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling
>>with another man. It should be clear now to everyone
>>watching this series that there is a pattern in showing
>>these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is
>>about to be raped by another man. The producers of this
>>series are desperate to show at the very least the
>>symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important
>>to them.
>>
>>3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last
>>Gleaming Part II, the Hollywood Homosexuals in control
>>of BSG were able to crowbar yet another Homosexual Rape
>>symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which
>>Boomer is approached and surrounded by what appears to
>>be around 5 semi-nude sister Boomer-copies who appear
>>to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
>>
>>Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many
>>Homosexuals just love to be the first one to turn
>>someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
>>Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they
>>promote, for the first time. They are absolutely
>>loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
>>confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly
>>take off her helmet and start caressing her without her
>>permission. It appears that she is in the process of
>>being homosexual gang raped.
>>
>>You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison
>>or even some sororities on some campuses with a new
>>inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with Wendy O.
>>Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
>>
>>Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the
>>obvious implication was that she was about to say "I am
>>not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a man
>>and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham
>>Valerii."
>>
>>The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual
>>promotional crap that we have heard here, over and over
>>again, that deep inside, everyone is a homosexual: "You
>>can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you...
>>no matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see
>>you again. We love you, sharon. And we always will."
>>
>>If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats
>>behind BSG, everyone is eventually going to engage in
>>Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it now.
>>Call of the wild, sort of thing.
>>
>>As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better
>>believe that the Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind
>>this series were jumping around slapping high fives. I
>>can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In
>>Space episode based on this content, except what SNL is
>>doing does not appear to have been approved by the
>>Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a
>>little careful about how close they mirror the show.
>>
>>One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes
>>like this being crowbar-ed into the script is: Should
>>we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene about
>>the direction of the overall story, or take it for what
>>it is -- the writers' penance to their Hollywood
>>Homosexual masters for putting up the money for the
>>production. For example, some here have assumed that in
>>this scene Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to
>>aasassinate William Adama, by this contact with her
>>Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the
>>taking off of the helmet was significant in that it
>>further exposed her brain to the telepathic
>>communications wavelengths being sent to her.
>>
>>But how can we know for sure when this scene already
>>serves a totally ulterior motive of the writers and
>>their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
>>========================================
>>
>>Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28139 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 07:15 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:117j1nj7sf2qc07 [at] news.supernews.com...
> manitou wrote:
> > The OP forgot the thinly-veiled repressed lesbian attraction Melanie had
> > for Scarlett in "GWTW" -- even Rhett Butler told Scarlett that Melanie
> > loved her, but he sure didn't understand why......
> Hey now: it's one thing to see things that actually ARE THERE, and
> another thing to see things that actually AREN'T THERE. :)
There is no question that there are clear and persistent advertisement
of Sodomy in the scripts and storyline of science fiction series over the
past 13 years.
Part of the result of this is that many science fiction series are dying
from
lack of viewers, viewers who at some point gave up on the series
because they were sick and tired of the scripts that make no sense
and which advertise objectionable behavior.
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28140 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 07:20 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:117ividsjrstva7 [at] news.supernews.com...
> John Shocked wrote:
> > I do take seriously any threat to the country and its children.
> So, picket the Catholic church, and Michael Jackson.
The jury has not spoken on Jackson yet. Those are suspicious allegations.
However, the Catholic Church definitely has had many priests molest
children homosexually and be convicted of that crime.
> > Are you going to wait till your Son comes to you with his
> > boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
> > will never raise a family ?
> Hey now, Gays ~can so~ raise a family. Open your mind and heart.
The Texas legislature just banned the adoption of children by homosexuals
and this should be echoed across the country. Corrupt judges are
responsible for this because I have yet to find a state which passed
a law which sattes that homosexuals can adopt people's children.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexual Themes in BSG and Star Trek DS9 -- some of the proof [message #28141 ] |
Do, 05 Mai 2005 07:23 |
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"manitou" <manitou910 [at] rogers.com> wrote in message
news:XeidnU9mgvMBGOTfRVn-2g [at] rogers.com...
> John Shocked wrote:
> > I do take seriously any threat to the country and its children.
> > Are you going to wait to your Son comes to you with his
> > boyfriend and tells you they are to be married and that he
> > will never raise a family ?
> I didn't realize Anita Bryant had been lurking at usenet for so many
years.
> C.
Again, if you claim not to be homosexual, why would you invest your
time and energy in defending the right of Hollywood Homosexuals
to sell Sodomy to your Son; unless they were paying you to do this ?
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