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Science Fiction » alt.fan.douglas-adams » The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short story assignment
| The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short story assignment [message #23729] |
So, 01 Mai 2005 17:39 |
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The execution of the Hitchhiker movie seemed to be like a school-kid
being given a short story assignment, and attempting to plagiarize the
Hitchhiker story, from memory, on four double-spaced sheets,
half-remembering or not getting the jokes, knowing the words, but
missing the meaning behind everything, and adding in a few things that
their adolescent mind thought would be "cool" and which might disguise
the story enough to make the teacher believe it was his/her own.
I think there was enough material in the first book alone to make a
gripping film without having to add in all of the
Humma-Kavula-head-kidnapping-gun-retrieving-tv-watching-comp uter-vogsphere-landing-face-slapping-and-trillian-kidnapping -and-subsequent-anticlimactic-retrieval
nonsense. It's as if Douglas, and the subsequent screenwriter(s)
thought that everyone in the world knew the main storyline and was
bored with it, so "let's get it out of the way as quickly as possible
so that we can show some cool new stuff I haven't gotten around to
expanding on."
I don't know about anybody else, but I actually would have been far
happier, and I think audiences who don't know HHG would have been far
less confused, if the story had simply followed Arthur off the Earth,
onto the Vogon ship, onto the Heart of Gold, and then to Magrathea,
with all of the lovely "I seem to be having a tremendous difficulty
with my lifestyle" stuff intact, rather than throwing in a bunch of
other nonsense (love story anyone?) and trying to cram six hours of
story into two hours of celluloid.
And I still don't like the senseless crabicide.
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| Re: The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short storyassignment [message #23751 ] |
So, 01 Mai 2005 20:54 |
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If you just want a condensed version of the TV series, then go watch that.
The radio series, book, and TV series are all different. Try finding
Lintilla in the book or TV series. Try finding Prak in the radio or TV
series. Every version is different.
If you don't like it, Go Stick Your Head In A Pig.
klaatu42 wrote:
> The execution of the Hitchhiker movie seemed to be like a school-kid
> being given a short story assignment, and attempting to plagiarize the
> Hitchhiker story, from memory, on four double-spaced sheets,
> half-remembering or not getting the jokes, knowing the words, but
> missing the meaning behind everything, and adding in a few things that
> their adolescent mind thought would be "cool" and which might disguise
> the story enough to make the teacher believe it was his/her own.
>
> I think there was enough material in the first book alone to make a
> gripping film without having to add in all of the
> Humma-Kavula-head-kidnapping-gun-retrieving-tv-watching-comp uter-vogsphere-landing-face-slapping-and-trillian-kidnapping -and-subsequent-anticlimactic-retrieval
> nonsense. It's as if Douglas, and the subsequent screenwriter(s)
> thought that everyone in the world knew the main storyline and was
> bored with it, so "let's get it out of the way as quickly as possible
> so that we can show some cool new stuff I haven't gotten around to
> expanding on."
>
> I don't know about anybody else, but I actually would have been far
> happier, and I think audiences who don't know HHG would have been far
> less confused, if the story had simply followed Arthur off the Earth,
> onto the Vogon ship, onto the Heart of Gold, and then to Magrathea,
> with all of the lovely "I seem to be having a tremendous difficulty
> with my lifestyle" stuff intact, rather than throwing in a bunch of
> other nonsense (love story anyone?) and trying to cram six hours of
> story into two hours of celluloid.
>
> And I still don't like the senseless crabicide.
>
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| Re: The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short story assignment [message #23760 ] |
So, 01 Mai 2005 22:13 |
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How eloquent. I think your nickname needs updating.
As my message stated, I was unhappy that it WAS such a massively
condensed mish-mash. It crammed way too much into 2 hours, and then
tried to add even more. There was so little attention paid to actual
character development or story, that I had a friend who doesn't know
HHG asking me, near the end of the movie, questions like "what was the
main guy's name?" and then afterwards, "I must have missed why the
Earth came back. What was that all about?"
I'm awaiting the insults to the intelligence of my friend, who you do
not know.
Sorry. That was probably troll food.
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| Re: The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short story assignment [message #23762 ] |
So, 01 Mai 2005 22:44 |
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In the Day the Earth Stood Still, is the main character a "Jesus figure"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/board/nest/2271685
"klaatu42" <lists [at] andrewgrantham.com> wrote in message
news:1114978418.150998.236880 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> How eloquent. I think your nickname needs updating.
>
> As my message stated, I was unhappy that it WAS such a massively
> condensed mish-mash. It crammed way too much into 2 hours, and then
> tried to add even more. There was so little attention paid to actual
> character development or story, that I had a friend who doesn't know
> HHG asking me, near the end of the movie, questions like "what was the
> main guy's name?" and then afterwards, "I must have missed why the
> Earth came back. What was that all about?"
>
> I'm awaiting the insults to the intelligence of my friend, who you do
> not know.
>
> Sorry. That was probably troll food.
>
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| Re: The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short storyassignment [message #26815 ] |
Mo, 02 Mai 2005 17:23 |
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klaatu42 wrote:
>
> I don't know about anybody else, but I actually would have been far
> happier, and I think audiences who don't know HHG would have been far
> less confused, if the story had simply followed Arthur off the Earth,
> onto the Vogon ship, onto the Heart of Gold, and then to Magrathea,
> with all of the lovely "I seem to be having a tremendous difficulty
> with my lifestyle" stuff intact, rather than throwing in a bunch of
> other nonsense (love story anyone?) and trying to cram six hours of
> story into two hours of celluloid.
People talk like knowing what the lines were going to be would be a bad
thing. I would have thoroughly enjoyed watching new actors takes on
tried and true lines. I mean - you don't change Hamlet just because
it's been done the same before, do you? I mean - some people do but
that's like spray-painting the Acropolis or something.
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> And I still don't like the senseless crabicide.
>
No. The whole point of the crabs is that they're gorgeous intricate
wonderful things that are destroyed tragically. Laughing at it kinda
kills the idea.
Nancy.
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| Re: The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short storyassignment [message #26816 ] |
Mo, 02 Mai 2005 17:26 |
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Half-Mad wrote:
> If you just want a condensed version of the TV series, then go watch that.
Hah. Thank you, I will. I have. I do. A bunch of people with a bare
fraction of the budget still managed to make something that bore a
resembelance to H2G2. This movie, with all its money and fancy effects,
couldn't even do that.
> The radio series, book, and TV series are all different.
Yeah but they all respect the source and tell a coherent story.
Try finding
> Lintilla in the book or TV series. Try finding Prak in the radio or TV
> series. Every version is different.
Every version is viable as a story and jam-packed full of hilarious and
witty moments. This movie was just painful.
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> If you don't like it, Go Stick Your Head In A Pig.
>
As long as we don't have to 'share and enjoy' the movie, that's fine by me.
Nancy.
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| Re: The movie was like a school child's plagiaristic short storyassignment [message #26817 ] |
Mo, 02 Mai 2005 17:27 |
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klaatu42 wrote:
> How eloquent. I think your nickname needs updating.
>
> As my message stated, I was unhappy that it WAS such a massively
> condensed mish-mash. It crammed way too much into 2 hours, and then
> tried to add even more. There was so little attention paid to actual
> character development or story, that I had a friend who doesn't know
> HHG asking me, near the end of the movie, questions like "what was the
> main guy's name?" and then afterwards, "I must have missed why the
> Earth came back. What was that all about?"
>
> I'm awaiting the insults to the intelligence of my friend, who you do
> not know.
>
> Sorry. That was probably troll food.
>
Naw. My post was troll food. I got pedantic. (It's the worst thing
you can do).
Nancy.
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