| James Potter and Snape [message #303013] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 00:26 |
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Was it ever said in the books how James saved Snape's life? Is that why
Snape has saved Harry? He resents him but feels he owes his life to his
dad, so saved Harry's.
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| Re: James Potter and Snape [message #303015 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 00:26 |
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Amanda wrote:
> Was it ever said in the books how James saved Snape's life? Is that
> why Snape has saved Harry? He resents him but feels he owes his life
> to his dad, so saved Harry's.
Wasn't it something to do with a practical joke that went horribly wrong
that him and Sirius played on Snape....James got cold feet and went back to
rescue Snape, and as a result, ended up saving his life.....
It seems to ring a few bells in my head anyway.....
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| Re: James Potter and Snape [message #303016 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 00:39 |
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"Swampy Bogtrotter" <samandjanetknox [at] tessco.net> wrote in message
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> Amanda wrote:
>> Was it ever said in the books how James saved Snape's life? Is that
>> why Snape has saved Harry? He resents him but feels he owes his life
>> to his dad, so saved Harry's.
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> Wasn't it something to do with a practical joke that went horribly wrong
> that him and Sirius played on Snape....James got cold feet and went back
> to
> rescue Snape, and as a result, ended up saving his life.....
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> It seems to ring a few bells in my head anyway.....
>
Starting to sound familiar. Will have to find out which book it's in and
skim through it.
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| Re: James Potter and Snape [message #303019 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 01:30 |
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Amanda wrote:
> Was it ever said in the books how James saved Snape's life?
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Sirius Black told Snape how to get through the tunnel into the Shrieking
Shack during the full moon when Remus Lupin was there, as a practical
joke. When James learned what Sirius had done, he went after Snape and
pulled him back--apparently just barely in time to save Snape from being
savaged by Remus in his werewolf form. Because Snape mistakenly
believes Remus and James were in on Sirius' joke (whether Peter
Pettigrew was in on it or not, I don't think we've been told), he thinks
they all tried to kill him until James got cold feet at the last second.
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| Re: James Potter and Snape [message #303062 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 10:09 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:26:06 -0500, "Amanda" <nospam [at] charter.net>
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>Was it ever said in the books how James saved Snape's life? Is that why
>Snape has saved Harry? He resents him but feels he owes his life to his
>dad, so saved Harry's.
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James prevented Snape from being attacked by Werewolf Lupin by pulling
him out of the tunnel. Snape, then told V about the Prophecy, which
got them killed. Not only does he owe his life to James, but he
repaid him by getting him and his wife killed. Although
nontransferable, Snape's inner code of ethics requires him to make
ammends and repay the debt the only way possible: save James' son's
life, whom he also endangered.
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| Re: James Potter and Snape [message #303063 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 10:11 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:30:41 GMT, Kish <Kish_K [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
>Amanda wrote:
>> Was it ever said in the books how James saved Snape's life?
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>Sirius Black told Snape how to get through the tunnel into the Shrieking
>Shack during the full moon when Remus Lupin was there, as a practical
>joke. When James learned what Sirius had done, he went after Snape and
>pulled him back--apparently just barely in time to save Snape from being
>savaged by Remus in his werewolf form. Because Snape mistakenly
>believes Remus and James were in on Sirius' joke (whether Peter
>Pettigrew was in on it or not, I don't think we've been told), he thinks
>they all tried to kill him until James got cold feet at the last second.
Might not be a mistake, as a self defense. The only way to stomach
owing James is to believe James was in on it too. His life is saved,
but by cowardice, not noble action.
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| Re: James Potter and Snape [message #303179 ] |
Sun, 23 July 2006 07:05 |
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"Toon" <toon [at] toon.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:26:06 -0500, "Amanda" <nospam [at] charter.net>
> wrote:
> James prevented Snape from being attacked by Werewolf Lupin by pulling
> him out of the tunnel. Snape, then told V about the Prophecy, which
> got them killed. Not only does he owe his life to James, but he
> repaid him by getting him and his wife killed. Although
> nontransferable, Snape's inner code of ethics requires him to make
> ammends and repay the debt the only way possible: save James' son's
> life, whom he also endangered.
--And Harry has benefited by this several times. But apparently Life Debts
only apply to characters Rowling doesn't like, such as Wormtail or Snape.
Has anyone noticed that not once has Harry been grateful for having his life
saved? Or regretted any of the times he and the Trio have actually harmed
Snape? (cough cough Shrieking Shack cough cough). And Snape is the one DADA
professor who hasn't tried to kill Harry somewhere along the line.
But he's a Slytherin, so it doesn't count. You'll notice Dumbledore had six
years to comment on this, and didn't think it a priority.
(I belong to the 'he did it under orders' school over Dumbledore's death.
You'll note Harry didn't stop putting the Ugly Potion down the Headmaster's
throat, and he wasn't under an Unbreakable Vow, either.)
--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Research is hard. Torturing heroes is fun."--Mary Jo Putney
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