| My thoughts on HBP (CONTAINS SPOILERS) [message #302901] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 02:35 |
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I just finished the 6th book. It was an enjoyable read although a bit
predictable. I figured it out immediately that the HBP was Snape ...
although I could not reconcile the dates. After all who is the best at
potions?
One thing that does come to mind though is exactly how powerful Snape
is. While he was a student he was very advanced in potions and was also
inventing spells. Comparing his abilities to Hermione, for instance,
gives you an indication how capable Snape really was.
You would have thought that after being correct 5/5 times people would
finally start trusting HP. In Book 4 CD dies, in Book 5 SB dies and in
Book 6, after HP is screaming out that SS and DM are up to no good, AD
dies. Surely by now they would have trusted anything that HP was to
say!
It was sad to see the way AD died. When SS enters the tower and AD is
almost pleading with him ... that was a bit unexpected. I still would
not put it past JKR to add another twist involving SS. AD trusted SS
.... maybe AD had to die in order to get SS closer to LV? Who knows ...
As for RAB, I think whatever explanation JKR comes up with, it will not
suffice. I say this because the most powerful wizard of all time almost
lost his life trying to retrieve the horcrux ... and he had the chosen
one as an accomplice. If there was a wizard/witch powerful enough to
defeat LV's traps then his/her name would be well known to the
wizarding community.
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| Re: My thoughts on HBP (CONTAINS SPOILERS) [message #302925 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 06:08 |
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In article <1153442156.941067.116490 [at] m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
<yuribolls [at] yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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>As for RAB, I think whatever explanation JKR comes up with, it will not
>suffice. I say this because the most powerful wizard of all time almost
>lost his life trying to retrieve the horcrux ... and he had the chosen
>one as an accomplice. If there was a wizard/witch powerful enough to
>defeat LV's traps then his/her name would be well known to the
>wizarding community.
If such a wizard were really cunning, he might have the sense not to
let people know how smart he is.
Or he might have been very young. Hermione, for example, is only
known to the wizard community as a bright muggleborn kid, if they even
have heard that much from the other students. IIRC she got her name
in the paper in a gossip column as Harry's girlfriend, and for being
in the fuss at the MoM, but given the fickleness and short memory of
the wizard public with regard to Harry, it seems unlikely that any of
them know much about Hermione. The same goes for Ginny, who is even
less well-known. Yet both of them are brilliant. We haven't been
shown Hermione inventing spells yet, partly because the twins have
that role, and partly because Hermione has been following the rules
in potions class, but when she does decide to invent one, she'll
know all the rules and how they interact.
I wonder if she'll have to invent something and test it on the twins...
=Tamar
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| Re: My thoughts on HBP (CONTAINS SPOILERS) [message #302994 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 21:18 |
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Richard Eney wrote:
> In article <1153442156.941067.116490 [at] m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> ... We haven't been
> shown Hermione inventing spells yet, partly because the twins have
> that role, and partly because Hermione has been following the rules
> in potions class, but when she does decide to invent one, she'll
> know all the rules and how they interact.
>
> I wonder if she'll have to invent something and test it on the twins...
I got the impression that the communicating coins that were used
to convey the times of the meetings of Dumbledore's Army
were Hermione's invention, and that Draco in fact credited Hermione
with inspiring this part of his plan for communicating to the Death
Eaters.
And wasn't the charm that branded Marietta as a "sneak" for
betraying the DA also Hermione's invention?
A slightly less lethal variant of the Unbreakable Vow
but not requiring a Bonder?
These are two that I can think of offhand.
--
Rob Strom
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| Re: My thoughts on HBP (CONTAINS SPOILERS) [message #303004 ] |
Fri, 21 July 2006 23:02 |
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strom wrote:
> I got the impression that the communicating coins that were used to convey
> the times of the meetings of Dumbledore's Army were Hermione's invention
Hermione was quite clever to think of it, but as far as we know it was just
a standard Protean charm to make the galleons change. It /is/ NEWT-level
magic, but she did not invent the spell herself.
> And wasn't the charm that branded Marietta as a "sneak" for betraying the
> DA also Hermione's invention?
Could be. We don't really know for sure.
--
Benjamin D. Esham
bdesham [at] gmail.com | AIM: bdesham128 | Jabber: same as e-mail
"Rincewind tried to force the memory out of his mind, but it was
rather enjoying itself there, terrorising the other occupants
and kicking over the furniture." — Terry Pratchett, /TCoM/
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| Re: My thoughts on HBP (CONTAINS SPOILERS) [message #303011 ] |
Sat, 22 July 2006 00:22 |
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<yuribolls [at] yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1153442156.941067.116490 [at] m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
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> As for RAB, I think whatever explanation JKR comes up with, it will not
> suffice. I say this because the most powerful wizard of all time almost
> lost his life trying to retrieve the horcrux ... and he had the chosen
> one as an accomplice. If there was a wizard/witch powerful enough to
> defeat LV's traps then his/her name would be well known to the
> wizarding community.
Also, RAB may not have survived - that might be the difference between him
and Dd who did survive. Sirius says he died, and assumes it was due to DEs
killing him for trying to quit Voldy's side; but he might have been killed
in destroying the horcrux, unlike Dd who, with his greater skill, destroyed
another but only lost a hand in the process.
Also, there may have been different spells on the others allowing different
(and perhaps slightly less hazardous) ways of destroying them - after all,
Harry destroyed the diary with the basilisk's fang/poison and wasn't hurt in
the process (he was hurt, but by the basilisk, not by the destruction of the
horcrux).
DaveD
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