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rabbits and me [message #299990] Mo, 17 Juli 2006 00:41
tinfrog  
Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.
And then i bought a motorcycle and came up against what apart from
politicians are the stupidest creatures on the planet.
What kind of survival instinct is "There's a big noisy thing coming
this way so what i'll do is sit here in this grass verge until it's
about 6 feet away and then i'll run straight at it. That will scare it
away cos that's what Gerald did and i have'nt seen him since so he must
have made it to the other side of the road"
Or there's that other rabbit favourite "In this field there's plenty of
grub and it's very safe and the hedges are close by in case we need to
hide so what we'll do is go and run around on that hard flat bit over
there where all those big noisy things are".
Rabbits are proof if any were needed that stupidity is a terminal
disease but if enough of you do the same thing it somehow makes what
you are doing normal.

Despite years of killing off the brain cells i still have a couple that
work and after seeing a t.v. prog about feral children they threw up
the following:- If you took a new born baby and only let it hear
instrumental music-no speaking or singing-would it speak in musical
tones when it got older?
Any thoughts?
Re: rabbits and me [message #300002 ] Mo, 17 Juli 2006 02:17
rja.carnegie  
tinfrog [at] hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
> got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
> it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.
> And then i bought a motorcycle and came up against what apart from
> politicians are the stupidest creatures on the planet.

They famously get caught in headlights... you'd suppose some sort of
guard-frame would be useful ;-) Something like a cow-catcher... you
can eat rabbits.

> Despite years of killing off the brain cells i still have a couple that
> work and after seeing a t.v. prog about feral children they threw up
> the following:- If you took a new born baby and only let it hear
> instrumental music-no speaking or singing-would it speak in musical
> tones when it got older?
> Any thoughts?

Isn't there a big thing in _Interesting Times_ about how the tone of
speech completely changes the meaning...

According to my TV guide there is now a weekly series about Gerald
McBoing Boing
Re: [I] rabbits and me [message #301302 ] Mo, 17 Juli 2006 21:09
Richard Adams  
tinfrog [at] hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
> got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
> it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.

Some run, some don't, both methods may work depending upon the
predator.

> And then i bought a motorcycle and came up against what apart from
> politicians are the stupidest creatures on the planet.
> What kind of survival instinct is "There's a big noisy thing coming
> this way so what i'll do is sit here in this grass verge until it's
> about 6 feet away and then i'll run straight at it.

Squirrels are famous for this tactic as well. Though I have, to the
pain and suffering of some associates, noted dogs will do this, too.
When you assess these simple creatures as "Stupid", please keep in mind
that at rabbit school they were likely not taught about the
hrudrudil[1] because it's only a relatively recent development. Most
man things didn't move at such speed until only the last 100 years,
where prior men were slower than rabbits. Rabbits, going all the way
back to the times of El-ahrairah[2] have done famously well by sitting
still and hoping the elil[3] won't notice them and failing that, giving
it a run. It isn't their error that your hrududu is so stupid it
doesn't know this.

[1] Man machine such as an auto or tractor
[2] Prince With A Thousand Enemies
[3] Enemies of rabbits, such as foxes, stoats, weasels or cats.

> That will scare it
> away cos that's what Gerald did and i have'nt seen him since so he must
> have made it to the other side of the road"
> Or there's that other rabbit favourite "In this field there's plenty of
> grub and it's very safe and the hedges are close by in case we need to
> hide so what we'll do is go and run around on that hard flat bit over
> there where all those big noisy things are".
> Rabbits are proof if any were needed that stupidity is a terminal
> disease but if enough of you do the same thing it somehow makes what
> you are doing normal.
>
> Despite years of killing off the brain cells i still have a couple that
> work and after seeing a t.v. prog about feral children they threw up
> the following:- If you took a new born baby and only let it hear
> instrumental music-no speaking or singing-would it speak in musical
> tones when it got older?
> Any thoughts?
Re: rabbits and me [message #301342 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 00:08
bethbriuk  
Richard Adams wrote:
> tinfrog [at] hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> > Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
> > got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
> > it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.
>Snip
> back to the times of El-ahrairah[2] have done famously well by sitting
> still and hoping the elil[3] won't notice them and failing that, giving
> it a run. It isn't their error that your hrududu is so stupid it
> doesn't know this.
>
> [1] Man machine such as an auto or tractor
> [2] Prince With A Thousand Enemies
> [3] Enemies of rabbits, such as foxes, stoats, weasels or cats.
>
Snipagain

Youdon't live on Watership Down by any chance?

BriD
Re: rabbits and me [message #301359 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 00:41
rja.carnegie  
BriD(bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk) wrote:
> Richard Adams wrote:
> > tinfrog [at] hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> > > Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
> > > got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
> > > it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.
> >Snip
> > back to the times of El-ahrairah[2] have done famously well by sitting
> > still and hoping the elil[3] won't notice them and failing that, giving
> > it a run. It isn't their error that your hrududu is so stupid it
> > doesn't know this.
> >
> > [1] Man machine such as an auto or tractor
> > [2] Prince With A Thousand Enemies
> > [3] Enemies of rabbits, such as foxes, stoats, weasels or cats.
> >
> Snipagain
>
> Youdon't live on Watership Down by any chance?

Proceeds carefully invested, I would like to think - this being one of
those "Surely it isn't really him?" online moments. (I haven't been
paying attention, to be honest. That movie freaked me out.)
Re: [I] rabbits and me [message #301371 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 03:50
Aggie Angst  
Richard Adams wrote:
> tinfrog [at] hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
>> got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
>> it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.
>
> Some run, some don't, both methods may work depending upon the
> predator.
>
>> And then i bought a motorcycle and came up against what apart from
>> politicians are the stupidest creatures on the planet.
>> What kind of survival instinct is "There's a big noisy thing coming
>> this way so what i'll do is sit here in this grass verge until it's
>> about 6 feet away and then i'll run straight at it.
>
> Squirrels are famous for this tactic as well. Though I have, to the
> pain and suffering of some associates, noted dogs will do this, too.
> When you assess these simple creatures as "Stupid", please keep in
> mind that at rabbit school they were likely not taught about the
> hrudrudil[1] because it's only a relatively recent development. Most
> man things didn't move at such speed until only the last 100 years,
> where prior men were slower than rabbits. Rabbits, going all the way
> back to the times of El-ahrairah[2] have done famously well by sitting
> still and hoping the elil[3] won't notice them and failing that,
> giving it a run. It isn't their error that your hrududu is so stupid
> it doesn't know this.
>
> [1] Man machine such as an auto or tractor
> [2] Prince With A Thousand Enemies
> [3] Enemies of rabbits, such as foxes, stoats, weasels or cats.
>

Good points. Thank you for making them. There are way too many dead
oppossums on the road around here, primarily due to the loss of habitat
because of humanity's ever increasing demand. Roads run through their
habitat and convenience stores sit where their homes used to be. They
can't help it that cars don't fall for it when they play dead. It's worked
for thousands of years, suddenly it doesn't any more. Then I have to listen
eejit rednecks talk about how stupid 'possums are. I've about decided
chipmunks are suicidal though. I've seen them run away from a car as hard
as they can go, only to veer back at the last moment and dive under the
wheel. I always have mixed feelings when I hear someone complain that
they've hit a deer. Yeah sorry it screwed up your car, but that deer is
dead. Did it occur to you to slow down in areas where there might be
wildlife *especially* during mating season? It just seems that humanity is
constantly finding more brutal ways to disrespect nature.

I'm not a hippie, but I have tendencies.
;)
Aggie
PS~Who is extra crabby because it's really, really hot here.
Re: [I] rabbits and me [message #301379 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 06:00
Rocky Frisco  
Richard Adams wrote:

> tinfrog [at] hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
>> got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
>> it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.
>
> Some run, some don't, both methods may work depending upon the
> predator.
>
>> And then i bought a motorcycle and came up against what apart from
>> politicians are the stupidest creatures on the planet.
>> What kind of survival instinct is "There's a big noisy thing coming
>> this way so what i'll do is sit here in this grass verge until it's
>> about 6 feet away and then i'll run straight at it.
>
> Squirrels are famous for this tactic as well. Though I have, to the
> pain and suffering of some associates, noted dogs will do this, too.
> When you assess these simple creatures as "Stupid", please keep in mind
> that at rabbit school they were likely not taught about the
> hrudrudil[1] because it's only a relatively recent development. Most
> man things didn't move at such speed until only the last 100 years,
> where prior men were slower than rabbits. Rabbits, going all the way
> back to the times of El-ahrairah[2] have done famously well by sitting
> still and hoping the elil[3] won't notice them and failing that, giving
> it a run. It isn't their error that your hrududu is so stupid it
> doesn't know this.
>
> [1] Man machine such as an auto or tractor
> [2] Prince With A Thousand Enemies
> [3] Enemies of rabbits, such as foxes, stoats, weasels or cats.

Hope I'm not confirming my *fool* status here.

Are you THE Richard Adams???

If so, no wonder you have the above knowledge!

-Rock
--
Remember Raccoon's Law: "Nothing is ever always anything."
Re: [I] rabbits and me [message #301389 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 09:13
Orjan Westin  
Rocky Frisco wrote:
> Richard Adams wrote:
>
>> Squirrels are famous for this tactic as well. Though I have, to the
>> pain and suffering of some associates, noted dogs will do this, too.
>> When you assess these simple creatures as "Stupid", please keep in
>> mind that at rabbit school they were likely not taught about the
>> hrudrudil[1] because it's only a relatively recent development.

<snip>

>> [1] Man machine such as an auto or tractor
>
> Hope I'm not confirming my *fool* status here.
>
> Are you THE Richard Adams???
>
> If so, no wonder you have the above knowledge!

And if so, he's the second [2] author to tome here after having been
honoured [3] in a certain Tale.

[3] For Certain Values Of... There was a cat goddess called Pfeiffa, a
name amalgated from the actress Pfeiffer and the lapine word pfeffa.

[2] The first [1] was Don Rosa. I wonder if he got the book I sent
him - I thought he'd appreciate the illustration of our heroes
appreciating a painting of ducks.

[1] It would be silly to put the first footnote after the word "second",
wouldn't it?

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/
Re: rabbits and me [message #301469 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 16:45
rja.carnegie  
Rocky Frisco wrote:
>
> Hope I'm not confirming my *fool* status here.

As a long-time member, you shouldn't feel that you have anything to
prove :-)
Re: [I] rabbits and me [message #301488 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 17:49
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
The time: 18 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: Rocky Frisco <rocknatural [at] gmail.com>

> Richard Adams wrote:

>> Rabbits, going all the way back to the times of
>> El-ahrairah[2]

> Hope I'm not confirming my *fool* status here.
>
> Are you THE Richard Adams???

If you *do* confirm your fool status, then thank you for
asking before I did 8-)...

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"If being stuck in a swamp with Christine Hamilton
is 'reality', pass the mind-altering drugs."
-Humphrey Lyttelton, "I'm Sorry, I Haven't A Clue"
Re: [I] rabbits and me [message #301489 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 17:58
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
The time: 18 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: "Orjan Westin" <nospam [at] cunobaros.com>

> Rocky Frisco wrote:
>> Richard Adams wrote:

<snip>

>> Are you THE Richard Adams???

<snip>

> And if so, he's the second [2] author to tome here after
> having been honoured [3] in a certain Tale.

Not quite. Richard made his first afp post in May 2004.
Pfeiffa was named in December that year. So if he was THE
Richard Adams, he'd have come here *before* being honoured in
the Tale.

Not that it's relevant anyway, since my Googling also revealed
he's already been asked, and said no.

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"If being stuck in a swamp with Christine Hamilton
is 'reality', pass the mind-altering drugs."
-Humphrey Lyttelton, "I'm Sorry, I Haven't A Clue"
Re: rabbits and me [message #301589 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 01:38
Rocky Frisco  
Robert Carnegie wrote:
> Rocky Frisco wrote:
>> Hope I'm not confirming my *fool* status here.
>
> As a long-time member, you shouldn't feel that you have anything to
> prove :-)

Got Me!!! :)

Touche!

-Rock
--
Remember Raccoon's Law: "Nothing is ever always anything."
Re: rabbits and me [message #301619 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 03:58
Richard Adams  
Rocky Frisco wrote:
> Richard Adams wrote:
>
> > tinfrog [at] hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >> Like, i suppose, a lot of people i always thought that Mother Nature
> >> got it spot on with the survival instinct i.e. if you don't know what
> >> it is run like hell as it will probably kill you.
> >
> > Some run, some don't, both methods may work depending upon the
> > predator.
> >
> >> And then i bought a motorcycle and came up against what apart from
> >> politicians are the stupidest creatures on the planet.
> >> What kind of survival instinct is "There's a big noisy thing coming
> >> this way so what i'll do is sit here in this grass verge until it's
> >> about 6 feet away and then i'll run straight at it.
> >
> > Squirrels are famous for this tactic as well. Though I have, to the
> > pain and suffering of some associates, noted dogs will do this, too.
> > When you assess these simple creatures as "Stupid", please keep in mind
> > that at rabbit school they were likely not taught about the
> > hrudrudil[1] because it's only a relatively recent development. Most
> > man things didn't move at such speed until only the last 100 years,
> > where prior men were slower than rabbits. Rabbits, going all the way
> > back to the times of El-ahrairah[2] have done famously well by sitting
> > still and hoping the elil[3] won't notice them and failing that, giving
> > it a run. It isn't their error that your hrududu is so stupid it
> > doesn't know this.
> >
> > [1] Man machine such as an auto or tractor
> > [2] Prince With A Thousand Enemies
> > [3] Enemies of rabbits, such as foxes, stoats, weasels or cats.
>
> Hope I'm not confirming my *fool* status here.
>
> Are you THE Richard Adams???
>
> If so, no wonder you have the above knowledge!
>
> -Rock
> --
> Remember Raccoon's Law: "Nothing is ever always anything."

No, I am not *The* Richard Adams. I have read the book about 9 times,
though.
Re: rabbits and me [message #301646 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 08:31
Rocky Frisco  
Richard Adams wrote:

> Rocky Frisco wrote:

>> Hope I'm not confirming my *fool* status here.
>>
>> Are you THE Richard Adams???
>>
>> If so, no wonder you have the above knowledge!

> No, I am not *The* Richard Adams. I have read the book about 9 times,
> though.

Thanks for the clarification!

-Rock
--
Remember Raccoon's Law: "Nothing is ever always anything."
Re: [I] rabbits and me [message #301688 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 12:39
SeekUp  
"Aggie Angst" <aggieangst [at] myinvalidway.com> wrote

> I'm not a hippie, but I have tendencies.


Oooh! Nice line! Consider it stolen.
:-)
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