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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc
| Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299318] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 19:11 |
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Hey folks,
Longtime reader, firsttime poster.
I figure you folks would know before I try and bother the man himself.
Has Pterry put anything on record as far as his thoughts or even an
official statement about people setting up roleplaying environs using
the Discworld theme? Things like the Discworld MUD (which is, indeed,
quite venerable), and so on.
I tend to /assume/ that he doesn't mind, but I'd like to find real
proof of that before I devote work to something to see publishers shut
it down :)
Regards,
Tim
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| Re: Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299322 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 19:51 |
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The time: 12 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: 0x0045 [at] gmail.com
> Hey folks,
>
> Longtime reader, firsttime poster.
>
> I figure you folks would know before I try and bother the
> man himself. Has Pterry put anything on record as far as
> his thoughts or even an official statement about people
> setting up roleplaying environs using the Discworld theme?
> Things like the Discworld MUD (which is, indeed, quite
> venerable), and so on.
>
> I tend to /assume/ that he doesn't mind, but I'd like to
> find real proof of that before I devote work to something
> to see publishers shut it down :)
As I understand it (and ICBW):
The Official Position on fanfiction is that he doesn't mind as
long as he doesn't see it. Online game stuff is a bit
trickier; I think you ought to ask, but you should be all
right.
I think last time someone asked him about an online DW game he
said something like "Suing them is 14,678 on my list of things
to do this year, and I'm currently on number 3..." I would
imagine there *are* things you can do to bump yourself up the
list, but avoiding them's just common sense.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299323 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 19:58 |
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0x0045 [at] gmail.com wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Longtime reader, firsttime poster.
>
> I figure you folks would know before I try and bother the man himself.
> Has Pterry put anything on record as far as his thoughts or even an
> official statement about people setting up roleplaying environs using
> the Discworld theme? Things like the Discworld MUD (which is, indeed,
> quite venerable), and so on.
>
> I tend to /assume/ that he doesn't mind, but I'd like to find real
> proof of that before I devote work to something to see publishers shut
> it down :)
I don't know the full details of the official policy, but I believe
that for stuff in general, he likes it if people ask him permission,
which he usually gives, but that may not necessarily be the case for
fanfic or MUDs. Fanfic is probably too small for him to worry much
about, and if you intend to make money on anything, he might want to
take a good look at it first.
mcv.
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| Re: Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299326 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 19:38 |
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on 12/07/2006 18:11 0x0045 [at] gmail.com said the following:
<snip>
> Has Pterry put anything on record as far as his thoughts or even an
> official statement about people setting up roleplaying environs using
> the Discworld theme?
<snip>
"I don't actually object to fan fiction, which by its very nature uses
copyrighted and trademarked material, provided that it's put somewhere
where I don't trip over it (so not to a.f.p. or a.b.p, please) isn't
done for money, and isn't passed off as 'official' in any way. I can't
really object to people writing their own DW scenarios, etc, for other
gamers - the problems would only begin if they got too proprietorial
about them.
Everything works if people are sensible."
-- Terry Pratchett on alt.books.pratchett 23 Jan 1999
If you're still not sure, try contacting Colin Smythe (Terry's agent)
when you have something to show. In some cases, usage of certain
names/trademarks can have an effect on future licensing deals, so, if in
doubt, ask. It's only polite really.
HTH
--
esmi
A Brief Guide to alt.fan.pratchett:
http://www.blackwidows.co.uk/afp-guide/
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| Re: Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299328 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 19:15 |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:11:08 -0700, 0x0045 wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Longtime reader, firsttime poster.
>
> I figure you folks would know before I try and bother the man himself. Has
> Pterry put anything on record as far as his thoughts or even an official
> statement about people setting up roleplaying environs using the Discworld
> theme? Things like the Discworld MUD (which is, indeed, quite venerable),
> and so on.
>
> I tend to /assume/ that he doesn't mind, but I'd like to find real proof
> of that before I devote work to something to see publishers shut it down
> :)
No doubt someone will have a better answer, but there's a quote on this
page: http://www.lspace.org/fandom/fanfiction/
| I don't actually object to fan fiction, which by its very nature uses
| copyrighted and trademarked material, provided that it's put somewhere
| where I don't trip over it (so not to a.f.p. or a.b.p, please) isn't
| done for money, and isn't passed off as 'official' in any way. I can't
| really object to people writing their own DW scenarios, etc, for other
| gamers - the problems would only begin if they got too proprietorial
| about them.
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| Everything works if people are sensible.
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| Terry Pratchett
| alt.books.pratchett
| 23 Jan 1999
It's quite old though... probably best to check!
HTH, HAND!
--
Matt
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| Re: Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299332 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 20:29 |
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mcv <mcvmcv [at] xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> I don't know the full details of the official policy, but I believe
> that for stuff in general, he likes it if people ask him permission,
> which he usually gives, but that may not necessarily be the case for
> fanfic or MUDs. Fanfic is probably too small for him to worry much
> about, and if you intend to make money on anything, he might want to
> take a good look at it first.
Also keep in mind that he has copyrights, so don't copy without permission,
and certain trademarks, so don't infringe on his ability to control trade
using those marks, but he doesn't have any /patents/ on the idea or
implementation.
In other words, you can probably plagiarise^Wreuse settings and steal ideas
as much as you like as long as you don't copy or use trademarks other than
as an external reference.
The nice thing to do if there's any kind of doubt, is, as others said, to
ask.
Regards,
--
*Art
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| Re: Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299333 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 20:32 |
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0x0045 [at] gmail.com writes:
> Longtime reader, firsttime poster.
>
> I figure you folks would know before I try and bother the man himself.
> Has Pterry put anything on record as far as his thoughts or even an
> official statement about people setting up roleplaying environs using
> the Discworld theme? Things like the Discworld MUD (which is, indeed,
> quite venerable), and so on.
>
> I tend to /assume/ that he doesn't mind, but I'd like to find real
> proof of that before I devote work to something to see publishers shut
> it down :)
There was a short-lived Discworld version of Angband a few years ago,
for which the author got permission from Terry. (Where 'permission'
meant, IIRC, "don't make money from it, don't claim the Discworld stuff
as yours, and I won't sue")
--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
"But of a good leader, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say,
'We did this ourselves.' " -Lao-Tzu
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| Re: Pterry's thoughts/policies on fan fiction, roleplaying, etc [message #299339 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 20:42 |
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on 12/07/2006 18:15 Matt said the following:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:11:08 -0700, 0x0045 wrote:
<snip>
>> I tend to /assume/ that he doesn't mind, but I'd like to find real proof
>> of that before I devote work to something to see publishers shut it down
> No doubt someone will have a better answer, but there's a quote on this
> page: http://www.lspace.org/fandom/fanfiction/
<snip quote>
Snap! ;-)
> It's quite old though... probably best to check!
The only recent development, AFAIIA, is the potential for certain
licensing/merchandising agreements that tend to follow films etc - which
is why I'd recommend contacting Colin Smythe, if in any doubt.
I've recently been working with a couple of other afpers to develop an
online Discworld resource whose suggested name did represent a potential
licensing problem. Both Terry and Colin have been very supportive but,
under the circumstances, we did agree to make appropriate changes *if*
the resource's name conflicted with any future contractual agreements.
In general, however, I'd say that Terry's attitude is still very
magnanimous but that, like every successful author, he needs to be aware
of potential legal implications.
--
esmi
A Brief Guide to alt.fan.pratchett:
http://www.blackwidows.co.uk/afp-guide/
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