| Black & White [message #298001] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 23:43 |
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The distinction between black and white magick can easily be compared
to the 7 deadly sins, and the 7 virtues. But the distinction between
virtue and sin, is actually a distinction between magick and religion.
Still according to Crowley, magick was any act of will, and the "high
magick" that he practiced was selfless and without sin.
Just look at the list of 7 deadly sins.
Lust (undesired love)
Gluttony (overindulgence)
Greed (avarice)
Sloth (laziness)
Wrath (anger)
Envy (jealousy)
Pride (vanity)
Before any sin is commited you first experience the emotions connected
with it. For the most part all of the magick I have ever practiced
could be described by on of these sins. Especially the sins of sloth
and pride. Although I've obviously comitted the sins of lust, greed,
gluttony, and even wrath. Although Envy may be the root source of my
practice of magick, I can't remember I cast a spell with the intent of
envy being present.
All of these sins are connected to a demon in catholic mythology, and
whenever we comit them we are being tempted by a devil into actually
involving ourselves in the actions of the sin. So some might say
working any magick with these intentions is praying to these specific
demons. Even if we think our intentions are good.
Lucifer: Pride
Mammon: Greed
Asmodeus: Lust
Leviathan: Envy
Beelzebub: Gluttony (lord of the flies)
Satan: Wrath
Belphegor: Sloth
But now look at the list of virtues and compare them to what white
magick is;
Chastity (purity)
Moderation (self-restraint)
Generosity (vigilance)
Zeal (integrity)
Meekness (composure)
Charity (giving)
Humility (humbleness)
I think you will find it is hard to come up with a spell you could cast
to accomplish any of these. Perhaps praying for others to have a hapy
life could be considered charity or generosity. Or maybe even Zeal.
But you have to be humble and meek enough to realize that a prayer is
never enough, and it is more important what magick you can do within
yourself to make the world a better place.
I doubt I will ever be a saint. But even if you are a skeptic, and
don't believe in magick you have to appreciate how miraculous it would
be for a human being to live by all 7 of these virtues. For me, I
think the best I can hope for is to avoid the 7 deadly sins, because in
my experience even if I don't commit a crime, my spells have a way of
working their magick. And I wind up regretting it later on.
Even with simple fortune telling that I do for entertainment. People
get spooked out, or wind up worse off than they were before they saw
the bigger picture going on around them.
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| Re: Black & White [message #298002 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 23:45 |
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I forgot to tell you that this is taken in part from wikipedia.
Slothful of me.
8)
CoreyWh... [at] gmail.com wrote:
> The distinction between black and white magick can easily be compared
> to the 7 deadly sins, and the 7 virtues. But the distinction between
> virtue and sin, is actually a distinction between magick and religion.
> Still according to Crowley, magick was any act of will, and the "high
> magick" that he practiced was selfless and without sin.
>
> Just look at the list of 7 deadly sins.
>
> Lust (undesired love)
> Gluttony (overindulgence)
> Greed (avarice)
> Sloth (laziness)
> Wrath (anger)
> Envy (jealousy)
> Pride (vanity)
>
> Before any sin is commited you first experience the emotions connected
> with it. For the most part all of the magick I have ever practiced
> could be described by on of these sins. Especially the sins of sloth
> and pride. Although I've obviously comitted the sins of lust, greed,
> gluttony, and even wrath. Although Envy may be the root source of my
> practice of magick, I can't remember I cast a spell with the intent of
> envy being present.
>
> All of these sins are connected to a demon in catholic mythology, and
> whenever we comit them we are being tempted by a devil into actually
> involving ourselves in the actions of the sin. So some might say
> working any magick with these intentions is praying to these specific
> demons. Even if we think our intentions are good.
>
> Lucifer: Pride
> Mammon: Greed
> Asmodeus: Lust
> Leviathan: Envy
> Beelzebub: Gluttony (lord of the flies)
> Satan: Wrath
> Belphegor: Sloth
>
> But now look at the list of virtues and compare them to what white
> magick is;
>
> Chastity (purity)
> Moderation (self-restraint)
> Generosity (vigilance)
> Zeal (integrity)
> Meekness (composure)
> Charity (giving)
> Humility (humbleness)
>
> I think you will find it is hard to come up with a spell you could cast
> to accomplish any of these. Perhaps praying for others to have a hapy
> life could be considered charity or generosity. Or maybe even Zeal.
> But you have to be humble and meek enough to realize that a prayer is
> never enough, and it is more important what magick you can do within
> yourself to make the world a better place.
>
> I doubt I will ever be a saint. But even if you are a skeptic, and
> don't believe in magick you have to appreciate how miraculous it would
> be for a human being to live by all 7 of these virtues. For me, I
> think the best I can hope for is to avoid the 7 deadly sins, because in
> my experience even if I don't commit a crime, my spells have a way of
> working their magick. And I wind up regretting it later on.
>
> Even with simple fortune telling that I do for entertainment. People
> get spooked out, or wind up worse off than they were before they saw
> the bigger picture going on around them.
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| Re: Black & White [message #298042 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 10:22 |
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On 11 Jul 2006 14:43:58 -0700, CoreyWhite [at] gmail.com wrote:
>The distinction between black and white magick can easily be compared
>to the 7 deadly sins, and the 7 virtues. But the distinction between
>virtue and sin, is actually a distinction between magick and religion.
>Still according to Crowley, magick was any act of will, and the "high
>magick" that he practiced was selfless and without sin.
Meaning (according to him) religion is the sin. Interesting.
>
>Lucifer: Pride
>Beelzebub: Gluttony (lord of the flies)
>Satan: Wrath
Same dude, though sometimes Beelzy is a separate being. But Lucifer
and Satan are the same dude. Just the latter is god being a big old
baby and calling him names.
>Meekness (composure)
And they get to inherit the Warth. Monkeys get the wind.
>But you have to be humble and meek enough to realize that a prayer is
>never enough,
Not that it actually works. Only makes things worse.
>don't believe in magick you have to appreciate how miraculous it would
>be for a human being to live by all 7 of these virtues.
Scientifically impossible. Humans by design cannot live by the 7
virtues, and must commit the 7 sins and break the 10 Commandments.
Anyone who can live by all 7 Virtues is not a human. Therefore,
humans must destroy the interloper, as such is their xenophobic ways.
And the last interloper was crucified. Think about it.
>For me, I
>think the best I can hope for is to avoid the 7 deadly sins,
Only if you're not human.
>because in
>my experience even if I don't commit a crime, my spells have a way of
>working their magick. And I wind up regretting it later on.
Maybe you don't know what you're doing?
>Even with simple fortune telling that I do for entertainment. People
>get spooked out, or wind up worse off than they were before they saw
>the bigger picture going on around them.
Ignornace is bliss.
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| Re: Black & White [message #300084 ] |
Mi, 12 Juli 2006 23:54 |
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CoreyWhite [at] gmail.com wrote:
> The distinction between black and white magick
You lost me after the seventh word (how biblical) by spelling magic with
a "k".
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