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Fantasy » alt.fan.harry-potter » Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper
Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297783] So, 09 Juli 2006 01:07
the_foundashun  
i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being a
romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP and
it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a real
romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione shipper I must
ask this question...does that mean that Ron & Hermione's relationship
is definate?...does that mean that they will SURELY work out and be
together always?....realistically, no it doesnt...my problem is that
readers around the world seem to talk about it as if it is a sure
thing...and logically, no, their relationship (while it could possibly
work out) also has the possibility of failing...where do we go from
there?...she could go out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT
just about her chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her
relationship with Ron isn't final
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297791 ] So, 09 Juli 2006 05:10
NoOneAtHome  
the_foundashun [at] hotmail.com wrote in
news:1152400061.707957.136290 [at] s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being
> a romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
> Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
> moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP
> and it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a
> real romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione
> shipper I must ask this question...does that mean that Ron &
> Hermione's relationship is definate?...does that mean that they
> will SURELY work out and be together always?....realistically, no
> it doesnt...my problem is that readers around the world seem to
> talk about it as if it is a sure thing...and logically, no, their
> relationship (while it could possibly work out) also has the
> possibility of failing...where do we go from there?...she could go
> out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT just about her
> chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her relationship with
> Ron isn't final
>
>

Dream on Dude, dream on.
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297793 ] So, 09 Juli 2006 07:05
kilroy  
<the_foundashun [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152400061.707957.136290 [at] s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being a
> romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
> Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
> moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP and
> it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a real
> romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione shipper I must
> ask this question...does that mean that Ron & Hermione's relationship
> is definate?...does that mean that they will SURELY work out and be
> together always?....realistically, no it doesnt...my problem is that
> readers around the world seem to talk about it as if it is a sure
> thing...and logically, no, their relationship (while it could possibly
> work out) also has the possibility of failing...where do we go from
> there?...she could go out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT
> just about her chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her
> relationship with Ron isn't final
>
Personally, I hadn't realized they were in a relationship. Yes, we know
that they have feelings for each other, but have they actually started
dating? Have they snogged yet? I think we still have a long way to go
before we get to the point where Ron and Hermione are actually in a
relationship. So, yes, both Ron and Hermione having relationships with
other people isn't unreasonable, but I don't think Hermione is going to
start dating Harry. Ron and Hermione are sidekicks, not on the same level
as Harry. For Harry and Hermione to start up something would really mess up
the dynamic of the relationship between all three of them. Besides, Harry
is in love with Ginny, and despite breaking up with her for her own safety.
If everything goes well in the end, he would most likely return to her,
unless she's given up waiting for him.

Now, if Ron and Ginny snuff it, leaving Harry and Hermione, then I would not
rule out something happening between them. Because of what they both would
have gone through to defeat Voldemort, they would share something that no
one else could possibly come close to relating to, making them natural
choices for one another. Ironically, Ginny was the natural choice to be in
a relationship with Harry because she, like him, had also had her own
personal dealings with Voldemort.

We'll just have to wait and see.
--
"War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is,
the sooner it will be over."
- William Tecumseh Sherman
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297794 ] So, 09 Juli 2006 07:37
motormaroon  
Kilroy wrote:
> <the_foundashun [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1152400061.707957.136290 [at] s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being a
> > romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
> > Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
> > moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP and
> > it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a real
> > romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione shipper I must
> > ask this question...does that mean that Ron & Hermione's relationship
> > is definate?...does that mean that they will SURELY work out and be
> > together always?....realistically, no it doesnt...my problem is that
> > readers around the world seem to talk about it as if it is a sure
> > thing...and logically, no, their relationship (while it could possibly
> > work out) also has the possibility of failing...where do we go from
> > there?...she could go out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT
> > just about her chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her
> > relationship with Ron isn't final
> >
> Personally, I hadn't realized they were in a relationship. Yes, we know
> that they have feelings for each other, but have they actually started
> dating? Have they snogged yet? I think we still have a long way to go
> before we get to the point where Ron and Hermione are actually in a
> relationship. So, yes, both Ron and Hermione having relationships with
> other people isn't unreasonable, but I don't think Hermione is going to
> start dating Harry. Ron and Hermione are sidekicks, not on the same level
> as Harry. For Harry and Hermione to start up something would really mess up
> the dynamic of the relationship between all three of them.
> Besides, Harry
> is in love with Ginny, and despite breaking up with her for her own safety.
> If everything goes well in the end, he would most likely return to her,
> unless she's given up waiting for him.
>
> Now, if Ron and Ginny snuff it, leaving Harry and Hermione, then I would not
> rule out something happening between them. Because of what they both would
> have gone through to defeat Voldemort, they would share something that no
> one else could possibly come close to relating to, making them natural
> choices for one another.

In the movies, yes. But in real life? Color me skeptical.

> Ironically, Ginny was the natural choice to be in
> a relationship with Harry because she, like him, had also had her own
> personal dealings with Voldemort.

There is no hint what so ever in the book that Harry is into Ginny for
the shared Voldy experiances. Actually he had all but dismissed that
connection from his mind until he was reminded of it in OOTP.

>
> We'll just have to wait and see.
> --
> "War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is,
> the sooner it will be over."
> - William Tecumseh Sherman

So long as you win the war. Otherwise its Nurnberg for you.
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297796 ] So, 09 Juli 2006 09:57
Toon  
On 8 Jul 2006 16:07:41 -0700, the_foundashun [at] hotmail.com wrote:

>i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being a
>romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
>Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
>moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP and
>it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a real
>romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione shipper I must
>ask this question...does that mean that Ron & Hermione's relationship
>is definate?...does that mean that they will SURELY work out and be
>together always?....realistically, no it doesnt...my problem is that
>readers around the world seem to talk about it as if it is a sure
>thing...and logically, no, their relationship (while it could possibly
>work out) also has the possibility of failing...where do we go from
>there?...she could go out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT
>just about her chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her
>relationship with Ron isn't final


Sure it could fail, but in the end, JK has written them together. She
even stated it several times in the interview when the HBP came out.
She thought it rather obvious these two would hook up.
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297819 ] So, 09 Juli 2006 17:06
eggplant107  
The trouble is that 3 is not an even number. A Harry Hermione
relationship would destroy the trio because Ron would be the odd man
out. As the senior member of the trio Harry could survive being the odd
man but Ron could not. And anyway at this late date in the series there
is no way JKR is going to slam on the brakes and change course 180
degrees.

Eggplant
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297825 ] So, 09 Juli 2006 19:08
nystulc  
the_foundashun [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being a
> romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
> Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
> moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP and
> it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a real
> romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione shipper I must
> ask this question...does that mean that Ron & Hermione's relationship
> is definate?...does that mean that they will SURELY work out and be
> together always?....realistically, no it doesnt...my problem is that
> readers around the world seem to talk about it as if it is a sure
> thing...and logically, no, their relationship (while it could possibly
> work out) also has the possibility of failing...where do we go from
> there?...she could go out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT
> just about her chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her
> relationship with Ron isn't final

Don't worry, man. Ron will die in Book 7.
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297868 ] Mo, 10 Juli 2006 14:48
aaron  
Marco [at] polo.com wrote:
> > Ironically, Ginny was the natural choice to be in
> > a relationship with Harry because she, like him, had also had her own
> > personal dealings with Voldemort.
>
> There is no hint what so ever in the book that Harry is into Ginny for
> the shared Voldy experiances.

That's not what the poster said. The use of the word "ironically"
indicates the poster is saying this happened WITHOUT Harry
intentionally making this choice.

-Aaron
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297884 ] Mo, 10 Juli 2006 18:03
drusilla  
> Marco [at] polo.com wrote:
>>> Ironically, Ginny was the natural choice to be in
>>> a relationship with Harry because she, like him, had also had her own
>>> personal dealings with Voldemort.

Also Susan Bones and many other girls in Hogwarts could have some
dealings with Voldemort for many reasons. Ginny's are more personal, but
a good number should have been touched by DE in one way or another...
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297928 ] Di, 11 Juli 2006 04:04
nystulc  
nystulc [at] cs.com wrote:
> the_foundashun [at] hotmail.com wrote:
> > i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being a
> > romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
> > Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
> > moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP and
> > it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a real
> > romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione shipper I must
> > ask this question...does that mean that Ron & Hermione's relationship
> > is definate?...does that mean that they will SURELY work out and be
> > together always?....realistically, no it doesnt...my problem is that
> > readers around the world seem to talk about it as if it is a sure
> > thing...and logically, no, their relationship (while it could possibly
> > work out) also has the possibility of failing...where do we go from
> > there?...she could go out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT
> > just about her chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her
> > relationship with Ron isn't final
>
> Don't worry, man. Ron will die in Book 7.

And as for Harry & Ginnie ... well, Ginnie is short for Ginevra, which
is Italian for Gwenevere, which of course means that Ginnie is going to
betray Harry ... so by the time the smoke clears ....
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297929 ] Di, 11 Juli 2006 04:31
tms  
nystulc [at] cs.com wrote:
>
> And as for Harry & Ginnie ... well, Ginnie is short for Ginevra, which
> is Italian for Gwenevere, which of course means that Ginnie is going to
> betray Harry ... so by the time the smoke clears ....

Perhaps she already has, in CoS. I don't think she is likely to
betray him the way Guinivere betrayed Arthur, by running away
with his best friend.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms [at] nj.net -- AB2SB
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297931 ] Di, 11 Juli 2006 04:52
nystulc  
T.M. Sommers wrote:
> nystulc [at] cs.com wrote:
> >
> > And as for Harry & Ginnie ... well, Ginnie is short for Ginevra, which
> > is Italian for Gwenevere, which of course means that Ginnie is going to
> > betray Harry ... so by the time the smoke clears ....
>
> Perhaps she already has, in CoS. I don't think she is likely to
> betray him the way Guinivere betrayed Arthur, by running away
> with his best friend.

You can't betray someone to whom you owe no loyalty. There has been no
betrayal exposed ... yet.
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297938 ] Di, 11 Juli 2006 05:18
drusilla  
T.M. Sommers escribió:
> nystulc [at] cs.com wrote:
>>
>> And as for Harry & Ginnie ... well, Ginnie is short for Ginevra, which
>> is Italian for Gwenevere, which of course means that Ginnie is going to
>> betray Harry ... so by the time the smoke clears ....
>
> Perhaps she already has, in CoS. I don't think she is likely to betray
> him the way Guinivere betrayed Arthur, by running away with his best
> friend.

Specially because his best friend is her brother :S
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #297975 ] Di, 11 Juli 2006 16:00
aaron  
drusilla wrote:
> >> And as for Harry & Ginnie ... well, Ginnie is short for Ginevra, which
> >> is Italian for Gwenevere, which of course means that Ginnie is going to
> >> betray Harry ... so by the time the smoke clears ....
> >
> > Perhaps she already has, in CoS. I don't think she is likely to betray
> > him the way Guinivere betrayed Arthur, by running away with his best
> > friend.
>
> Specially because his best friend is her brother :S

She could run off with Neville!

If he's not one of the two who will die in this book, that is! ;)

-Aaron
Re: Harry/Hermione....yes im a shipper [message #298015 ] Mi, 12 Juli 2006 02:19
Paracelsus  
nystulc [at] cs.com wrote:

>the_foundashun [at] hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>i know everyone's thrown away the idea of Harry and Hermione being a
>>romantic couple but i'd like to bring up a few points...Ron and
>>Hermione's "relationship" started way back in POA with the akward
>>moments and such...of course it escalated in GOF and we get to HBP and
>>it appears as if they're finally settling down and having a real
>>romantic relationship...as a dissapointed Harry/Hermione shipper I must
>>ask this question...does that mean that Ron & Hermione's relationship
>>is definate?...does that mean that they will SURELY work out and be
>>together always?....realistically, no it doesnt...my problem is that
>>readers around the world seem to talk about it as if it is a sure
>>thing...and logically, no, their relationship (while it could possibly
>>work out) also has the possibility of failing...where do we go from
>>there?...she could go out with Dean or Seamus or whoever (this is NOT
>>just about her chance with Harry it could be anyone) but her
>>relationship with Ron isn't final
>>
>>
>
>Don't worry, man. Ron will die in Book 7.
>
>
>
Not even then. Harry has already been in one relationship where he took
a dead man's place. I can't see him trying that again.

In real life it might happen. People sometimes do unexpected things for
no reason. But in fiction, major plot developments are foreshadowed. I
have not seen the slightest hint in any of the books of Harry having a
romantic interest in Hermione or of Hermione having a romantic interest
in Harry.
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