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Music with rocks in it [message #297181]

So, 09 Juli 2006 14:32

Bas

So, after leaving the Discworld, the soul of music returned on the strange
blue planet we call Earth. After three decades of letting music, well, just
muck about, it decided enough was enough and something needed to be done.

Strangely enough it also decided something needed to be done Down Under. So,
after those three decades it didn't go to familiar grounds, no, it went to
Sydney.

And there it found it's place in a band that was doing nothing pretty
exciting at all. But it saw potential, it saw things-to-come, it saw what
needed to be done.

And so, three decades after the death of Music With Rocks in It, it gave the
world a new old sound. It gave the world it's balls back. It gave the world
Wolfmother!

(and, as you might have understood by now, I rather urge you to go listen to
these guys. If there was ever Music with rocks in it, this is it!)

Bass

Re: Music with rocks in it [message #299699 ]

Sa, 15 Juli 2006 01:44

rja.carnegie

Bas wrote:

> And so, three decades after the death of Music With Rocks in It, it gave the
> world a new old sound. It gave the world it's balls back. It gave the world
> Wolfmother!
>
> (and, as you might have understood by now, I rather urge you to go listen to
> these guys. If there was ever Music with rocks in it, this is it!)

I've seen a telly advert for them and indeed the metal is heavy, on the
strength of thirty seconds or so. But it depends whether that floats
your boat. What do they have to say to the world of 2006... if it's
not "how strangely refreshed we feel after that nice long sleep....
/how/ long???", /then/ - ;-)

Re: Music with rocks in it [message #299787 ]

Sa, 15 Juli 2006 19:00

Eric Jarvis

Robert Carnegie rja.carnegie [at] excite.com wrote in
<1152920680.780606.211730 [at] h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
> Bas wrote:
>
> > And so, three decades after the death of Music With Rocks in It, it gave the
> > world a new old sound. It gave the world it's balls back. It gave the world
> > Wolfmother!
> >
> > (and, as you might have understood by now, I rather urge you to go listen to
> > these guys. If there was ever Music with rocks in it, this is it!)
>
> I've seen a telly advert for them and indeed the metal is heavy, on the
> strength of thirty seconds or so. But it depends whether that floats
> your boat. What do they have to say to the world of 2006... if it's
> not "how strangely refreshed we feel after that nice long sleep....
> /how/ long???", /then/ - ;-)
>

My problem with them, and quite a few other bands is that I've seen Black
Sabbath play live in the late seventies so there doesn't seem a lot of
point listening to bands who would like to play that way but don't have
either the talent or the guts to actually do it.

I suspect they are actually rather good at what they do. It's just that
you can't be the future of rock and roll by being a copy of the past of
rock and roll.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

Re: Music with rocks in it [message #299903 ]

So, 16 Juli 2006 14:25

Bastiaan Hebing

Eric Jarvis wrote:

>>
>
> My problem with them, and quite a few other bands is that I've seen Black
> Sabbath play live in the late seventies so there doesn't seem a lot of
> point listening to bands who would like to play that way but don't have
> either the talent or the guts to actually do it.
>
> I suspect they are actually rather good at what they do. It's just that
> you can't be the future of rock and roll by being a copy of the past of
> rock and roll.
>

Maybe the problem is with most contemporary music. These guys stand out in
today's music (well, all right, IMHO) because they actually make rock and
roll. You are right, it is a copy (although pastiche may be a beter word)
of the past. The fact that it seems refreshing today, does say something
about the music of today.

What I'm trying to say is: to my ears (and, mind you, those ears never heard
Black Sabbath play live....) it sounds like rock and roll reinvented. And
that gives hope for the future. Maybe these guys are not the future of rock
and roll, but the hope is that other bands will pick it up and maybe be the
future of rock and roll!

Re: Music with rocks in it [message #299958 ]

So, 16 Juli 2006 20:33

Eric Jarvis

Bastiaan Hebing bas [at] you_know_what_to_do.profeten.nl wrote in
<44ba3009$0$18634$dbd4b001 [at] news.wanadoo.nl>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> >> <Wolfmother>
> >
> > My problem with them, and quite a few other bands is that I've seen Black
> > Sabbath play live in the late seventies so there doesn't seem a lot of
> > point listening to bands who would like to play that way but don't have
> > either the talent or the guts to actually do it.
> >
> > I suspect they are actually rather good at what they do. It's just that
> > you can't be the future of rock and roll by being a copy of the past of
> > rock and roll.
>
> Maybe the problem is with most contemporary music. These guys stand out in
> today's music (well, all right, IMHO) because they actually make rock and
> roll. You are right, it is a copy (although pastiche may be a beter word)
> of the past. The fact that it seems refreshing today, does say something
> about the music of today.
>
> What I'm trying to say is: to my ears (and, mind you, those ears never heard
> Black Sabbath play live....) it sounds like rock and roll reinvented. And
> that gives hope for the future. Maybe these guys are not the future of rock
> and roll, but the hope is that other bands will pick it up and maybe be the
> future of rock and roll!
>

I don't think you can be looking around enough. Bands like The Bellrays,
Sahara Hotnights, Razorlight, Dirty Pretty Things, The D4, The Vines and
The Datsuns all create music that is quality rock and roll at heart.
Primal Scream still regularly prove that no matter what else they are
doing they remain a really good rock and roll band, it's just that they
can do that at the same time as being punk, goth, country or experimental.

The charts and the mainstream radio and TV shows have always been a bit
tentative about music that really rocks. It's allowed when it's an old and
established band, when it's somewhat sanitised, or if it's safely packaged
as referring to the past rather than the future. What they don't want is
music that might scare the horses. Of course it isn't really rock and roll
unless it has the potential to get out of control. Because what really
counts is negotiating the tightrope between chaos and structure and
probably falling off occasionally on either side.

The real future of rock and roll was The Libertines. It remains to be seen
if either Dirty Pretty Things or Babyshambles can salvage anything from
the wreckage.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

Re: Music with rocks in it [message #299962 ]

So, 16 Juli 2006 21:23

James Mitchelhill

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:33:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:

<snip>
> The charts and the mainstream radio and TV shows have always been a bit
> tentative about music that really rocks. It's allowed when it's an old and
> established band, when it's somewhat sanitised, or if it's safely packaged
> as referring to the past rather than the future. What they don't want is
> music that might scare the horses. Of course it isn't really rock and roll
> unless it has the potential to get out of control. Because what really
> counts is negotiating the tightrope between chaos and structure and
> probably falling off occasionally on either side.
>
> The real future of rock and roll was The Libertines. It remains to be seen
> if either Dirty Pretty Things or Babyshambles can salvage anything from
> the wreckage.

I have to disagree here, and not just because I have a deep dislike of
these bands. ;)

The real power of rock-and-roll was that it brought together and
connected people. Knowing the language and style of rock-and-roll was a
way of being part of one of the largest in-groups ever.

Rock-and-roll in this sense is dead. What is sometimes referred to as
"the balkanisation of culture" killed it. Culture has broken up into
islands of subcultures, from which people pick and choose the things
they want. There is no music left that has the power to connect people
as widely as rock-and-roll once did. This isn't because the music has
changed, but because the structure of culture has.

Much of this harking back to the past in lots of modern music seems to
express a wish that the music still had the power to connect and define
people's lives. But it doesn't. It's a commodity, not a social force
now.

[Am I the only one who can't hear a new piece of music without imagining
the advert it should be the soundtrack to?]

--
James Mitchelhill
james [at] disorderfeed.net
http://disorderfeed.net

Re: Music with rocks in it [message #301586 ]

Mi, 19 Juli 2006 01:21

Brian Wakeling

Bas wrote:
<snip>
>
> And so, three decades after the death of Music With Rocks in It, it
> gave the world a new old sound. It gave the world it's balls back.
> It
> gave the world Wolfmother!
>

Have you been listening to Chris Moyles podcasts, by any chance?

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"What's wrong with dropping out? To me, that is the whole point - to
remove oneself from an environment that is spiritually and
intellectually unfulfilling."
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