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So [message #296377] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 07:19
TXZZ  
Are elves supposed to be welsh, dwarves scottish, hobbits Irish, and
Orcs mongolian?
Re: So [message #296383 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 10:24
Troels Forchhammer  
In message <news:1152076759.818153.92170 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>
"TXZZ" <superoutland [at] aol.com> enriched us with:
>
> Are elves supposed to be welsh, dwarves scottish, hobbits Irish, and
> Orcs mongolian?

No

--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>

The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head.
- /Hogfather/ (Terry Pratchett)
Re: So [message #296384 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 14:49
OMeallyMD  
TXZZ wrote:
> Are elves supposed to be welsh, dwarves scottish, hobbits Irish, and
> Orcs mongolian?

Only in the movies.
--
Bill

"Wise fool"
Gandalf, THE TWO TOWERS
-- The Wise will remove 'se' to reply; the Foolish will not--
Re: So [message #296387 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 14:59
Derek Broughton  
Troels Forchhammer wrote:

> In message <news:1152076759.818153.92170 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>
> "TXZZ" <superoutland [at] aol.com> enriched us with:
>>
>> Are elves supposed to be welsh, dwarves scottish, hobbits Irish, and
>> Orcs mongolian?
>
> No
>
Exactly. Dwarves are Welsh (despite the fake accent, you surely don't think
it was an accident Jackson cast Rhys-Davies as Gimli?), Hobbits are
English, Elves are Finnish, and Orcs are the despised race du jour.
--
derek
Re: So [message #296399 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 23:15
TT Arvind  
Wes =F0u Bill O'Meally hal!
> TXZZ wrote:
> > Are elves supposed to be welsh, dwarves scottish, hobbits Irish, and
> > Orcs mongolian?
>=20
> Only in the movies.

Did the movie orcs look *Mongolian* to you?

--=20
Arvind
Re: So [message #296401 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 23:28
TXZZ  
TT Arvind wrote:
> Wes =F0u Bill O'Meally hal!
> > TXZZ wrote:
> > > Are elves supposed to be welsh, dwarves scottish, hobbits Irish, and
> > > Orcs mongolian?
> >
> > Only in the movies.
>
> Did the movie orcs look *Mongolian* to you?
>
> --
> Arvind

short scotchmen are like manly craftsman warriors. Like dwarves are.
English were mre likely to be knights, whilst the welsh were good
archers, relatively scant in number and scattered.

Orcs are just the barbarians of the world, and in the medieval context
this seems to be more mongolians than anyone else.
Re: So [message #296418 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 05:08
Finarfin  
Sindarin and Gaelic Irish?
"TXZZ" <superoutland [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1152134911.653371.61520 [at] v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...

TT Arvind wrote:
> Wes šu Bill O'Meally hal!
> > TXZZ wrote:
> > > Are elves supposed to be welsh, dwarves scottish, hobbits Irish, and
> > > Orcs mongolian?
> >
> > Only in the movies.
>
> Did the movie orcs look *Mongolian* to you?
>
> --
> Arvind

short scotchmen are like manly craftsman warriors. Like dwarves are.
English were mre likely to be knights, whilst the welsh were good
archers, relatively scant in number and scattered.

Orcs are just the barbarians of the world, and in the medieval context
this seems to be more mongolians than anyone else.
Re: So [message #296419 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 05:41
TXZZ  
No the hobbits are. They are useless and smoke anything. Plus, they
are dwarf-like (scottish-like) but aren't nearly as respected
Re: So [message #298119 ] Sa, 08 Juli 2006 14:02
Tamf Moo  
TT Arvind wrote:

> Did the movie orcs look *Mongolian* to you?

good ole gengis had sex with a *lot* of, er, beings.

--
tamf. TEUNC. moo.

By the way, I'm really sick of hearing about how great Scandinavian
countries are (something that seems to creep into every single feminist
work/home/childcare/maternity leave debate). ENOUGH ALREADY. YOU ALSO
HAVE CRAP FOOD AND WEIRD BELIEFS ABOUT GNOMES. (smartypantsmimi)
Re: So [message #298120 ] Sa, 08 Juli 2006 14:04
Tamf Moo  
Derek Broughton wrote:

> English, Elves are Finnish, and Orcs are the despised race du jour.

orcs were fairly good long-distance runners, but generally were defeated
at shorter sprints.

--
tamf. TEUNC. moo.

By the way, I'm really sick of hearing about how great Scandinavian
countries are (something that seems to creep into every single feminist
work/home/childcare/maternity leave debate). ENOUGH ALREADY. YOU ALSO
HAVE CRAP FOOD AND WEIRD BELIEFS ABOUT GNOMES. (smartypantsmimi)
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