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Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295146] Di, 04 Juli 2006 02:30
drusilla  
http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/cnncomic.jp g
:)
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295192 ] Di, 04 Juli 2006 14:10
Toon  
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:30:12 -0500, drusilla <me [at] me.net> wrote:

> http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/cnncomic.jp g
>:)


I think Death is V in disguise.

Why is Death smoking? No lungs, no air intake. It can't be done.
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295254 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 14:58
flip+  
Toon <toon [at] toon.com> writes:
>Why is Death smoking?

He's contributing to second hand smoke. ;)
(of course, if it's not smoking, then it's first hand smoke.)

>No lungs, no air intake. It can't be done.
Nor should the (non-canon) shrunken heads be able to talk... no lungs,
no diaphram, no vocalization.

Are we really interested in telling death personified what it can and
can not do? ;)

--
May no harm befall you,
flip
Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch?
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295255 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 15:11
haddad  
JKR: "...one character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that I
didn't intend to die. A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil.
They don't target the extras, do they? They go for the main characters, or I
do."

She said that 2 died that she did not intend to kill! That does not mean
she has limited the death count to 2 - just that she added two that she did
not originally intend.

Bruce
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295257 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 15:39
Christian Winter  
Toon wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:30:12 -0500, drusilla <me [at] me.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/cnncomic.jp g
>> :)
>
> I think Death is V in disguise.
>
> Why is Death smoking? No lungs, no air intake. It can't be done.

In fact he's not smoking at all, but rather holding an ever-burning
cigaratte between his teeth. That's one of the remaining 35 Horcurxes
no one knows about up to now (you didn't really believe Voldy would
stop at 7 soul pieces, did you? Of course he's going for the full 42).

-Chris :)
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295258 ] Mi, 05 Juli 2006 16:40
flip+  
Christian Winter <thepoet_nospam [at] arcor.de> writes:
>(you didn't really believe Voldy would stop at 7 soul pieces, did
>you? Of course he's going for the full 42).

or 49 (7 7s), although that's not as funny as the HGttG reference.
:)

--
May no harm befall you,
flip
Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch?
In my email replace SeeEmmYou.EeeDeeYou with CMU.EDU
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295281 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 03:22
drifter  
Bruce E. Haddad wrote:
> JKR: "...one character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that
> I didn't intend to die. A price has to be paid. We are dealing with
> pure evil. They don't target the extras, do they? They go for the
> main characters, or I do."
>
> She said that 2 died that she did not intend to kill! That does not
> mean she has limited the death count to 2 - just that she added two
> that she did not originally intend.
>
> Bruce

It could be that those 2 were originally to be the only survivors.
Now *everybody* dies!

--

Kel
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own."
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295296 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 09:40
Toon  
On 05 Jul 2006 08:58:45 -0400, Philip Lewis
<flip+ [at] andrew.SeeEmmYou.EeeDeeYou> wrote:

>Toon <toon [at] toon.com> writes:
>>Why is Death smoking?
>
>He's contributing to second hand smoke. ;)
>(of course, if it's not smoking, then it's first hand smoke.)
>
>>No lungs, no air intake. It can't be done.
>Nor should the (non-canon) shrunken heads be able to talk... no lungs,
>no diaphram, no vocalization.
>
>Are we really interested in telling death personified what it can and
>can not do? ;)

Only if he comes too early. annoy him away for several more years.
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295297 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 09:41
Toon  
On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 08:11:47 -0500, "Bruce E. Haddad"
<haddad [at] brucehaddad.net> wrote:

>JKR: "...one character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that I
>didn't intend to die. A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil.
>They don't target the extras, do they? They go for the main characters, or I
>do."
>
>She said that 2 died that she did not intend to kill! That does not mean
>she has limited the death count to 2 - just that she added two that she did
>not originally intend.
>
>Bruce
>

Yup. Crystal clear to 99% of the world.
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #295298 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 09:44
Toon  
On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 20:22:49 -0500, "drifter" <never [at] home.net> wrote:

>Bruce E. Haddad wrote:
>> JKR: "...one character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that
>> I didn't intend to die. A price has to be paid. We are dealing with
>> pure evil. They don't target the extras, do they? They go for the
>> main characters, or I do."
>>
>> She said that 2 died that she did not intend to kill! That does not
>> mean she has limited the death count to 2 - just that she added two
>> that she did not originally intend.
>>
>> Bruce
>
>It could be that those 2 were originally to be the only survivors.
>Now *everybody* dies!

One person got a reprieve.
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #297622 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 12:24
Christian Winter  
Toon wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 20:22:49 -0500, "drifter" <never [at] home.net> wrote:
>> It could be that those 2 were originally to be the only survivors.
>> Now *everybody* dies!
>
> One person got a reprieve.

Which could also mean that this person will die later on in the
chapter.

-Chris
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #297623 ] Do, 06 Juli 2006 15:09
John Duncan Yoyo  
On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 08:11:47 -0500, "Bruce E. Haddad"
<haddad [at] brucehaddad.net> wrote:

>JKR: "...one character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that I
>didn't intend to die. A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil.
>They don't target the extras, do they? They go for the main characters, or I
>do."
>
>She said that 2 died that she did not intend to kill! That does not mean
>she has limited the death count to 2 - just that she added two that she did
>not originally intend.
>
Yes. Percy and who else?
--
John Duncan Yoyo
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Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #297684 ] Fr, 07 Juli 2006 09:35
Toon  
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:24:32 +0200, Christian Winter
<thepoet_nospam [at] arcor.de> wrote:

>Toon wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 20:22:49 -0500, "drifter" <never [at] home.net> wrote:
>>> It could be that those 2 were originally to be the only survivors.
>>> Now *everybody* dies!
>>
>> One person got a reprieve.
>
>Which could also mean that this person will die later on in the
>chapter.
>
>-Chris

NO, the whole point was she changed things so a dead person lives
after all, and two live ones wind up dead. There's no chance they'll
die later. She'd never mention it if they did. This is her Final
Anser on who lives and dies. 2 live ones die, one dead one lives. The
End. If this person still dies, no reprieve has been given.
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #297697 ] Fr, 07 Juli 2006 15:57
Christian Winter  
Toon wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:24:32 +0200, Christian Winter
> <thepoet_nospam [at] arcor.de> wrote:
>
>>Which could also mean that this person will die later on in the
>>chapter.
>>
>
> NO, the whole point was she changed things so a dead person lives
> after all, and two live ones wind up dead. There's no chance they'll
> die later. She'd never mention it if they did. This is her Final
> Anser on who lives and dies. 2 live ones die, one dead one lives. The
> End. If this person still dies, no reprieve has been given.

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the word "reprieve", I haven't come
upon that one very often, and in school we learnt it could either mean
that a sentence has been lifted or that it had been delayed. So from
your reply I guess the first one is the correct definition?

-Chris
Re: Jo has the last word about the deaths, after all [message #297734 ] Sa, 08 Juli 2006 09:37
Toon  
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:57:24 +0200, Christian Winter
<thepoet_nospam [at] arcor.de> wrote:

>Toon wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:24:32 +0200, Christian Winter
>> <thepoet_nospam [at] arcor.de> wrote:
> >
>>>Which could also mean that this person will die later on in the
>>>chapter.
>>>
>>
>> NO, the whole point was she changed things so a dead person lives
>> after all, and two live ones wind up dead. There's no chance they'll
>> die later. She'd never mention it if they did. This is her Final
>> Anser on who lives and dies. 2 live ones die, one dead one lives. The
>> End. If this person still dies, no reprieve has been given.
>
>Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the word "reprieve", I haven't come
>upon that one very often, and in school we learnt it could either mean
>that a sentence has been lifted or that it had been delayed. So from
>your reply I guess the first one is the correct definition?
>
>-Chris

Yes. She was talking about the final chapter, the epilogue, long
since written, and how it got slightly changed, so one dead person got
a reprieve, and two others got killed. If the reprieve as a delay
she'd just say 2 people died who originally didn't, because it's the
final statement on the cast of characters. Their ultimate fate, after
all is said and done. Any delay becomes meaningless because the
character still dies, and their fate never changed. She would say she
delayed the death of another, perhaps to make it more fitting, or
poignant, or a surprise.
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