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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » Happy 4th
| Happy 4th [message #294423] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 17:00 |
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Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294425 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 17:02 |
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Oops, sorry, forgot to tag that.
Blake wrote:
> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294452 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:36 |
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Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Blake:
> Oops, sorry, forgot to tag that.
> Blake wrote:
>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
Do they have the 4th of July in England?
rich
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294454 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:41 |
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rich hammett <bubbarichau [at] warmmail.com> wrote:
> >> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
Yes. They also have a fifth, a sixth, a seventh...
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294456 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:45 |
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Boyd Bottorff <nomail [at] nomail.com> wrote:
> > >> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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> > Do they have the 4th of July in England?
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> Yes. They also have a fifth, a sixth, a seventh...
Yeah, I know, old joke. If you want an interesting take on history and
freedom, read a copy of the original magna carta. I think wikipedia.org
has it. It's a rather interesting snapshot on history and divine
priveleges. And the occasional really odd complaint.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294462 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:53 |
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In article <9qvqg.130818$771.94972 [at] edtnps89>,
Blake <blake_hugh [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
Why, thank you! I didn't think anyone else would be interested that I
graduated fifteen years ago today!
Cat.
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Jazz-Loving Soul Mate and Tolerable Frog to CCA
"At last... we can retire and give up this life of crime."
Zoe Washburne - Serenity
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294467 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:16 |
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The time: 04 Jul 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: steelcat [at] atuin.demon.co.uk (The Stainless Steel Cat)
> In article <9qvqg.130818$771.94972 [at] edtnps89>,
> Blake <blake_hugh [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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> Why, thank you! I didn't think anyone else would be
> interested that I graduated fifteen years ago today!
If you want a special aniversary salute I know a group of pine
martens with a Flodden bombard...
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Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
Suggs against sexism. It's Madness gone
politically correct.
Jon Holmes, The Now Show 26/5/06
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #294539 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 23:48 |
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Blake <blake_hugh [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
Ah, the day we finally rid ourselves of the bloody colonials.
*sips tea and reads his copy of The Times*[1]
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'q
[1] Well, the website[2]
[2] Which is actually the Guardian, but anyway.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294561 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 00:37 |
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rich hammett wrote:
>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
Yes, we find it quite useful to fill the gap btween 3rd July and 5th July.
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Mike Stevens
narrowboat Felis Catus III
web-site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
No man is an island. So is Man.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294563 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 00:41 |
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Mike Stevens wrote:
> rich hammett wrote:
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>>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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>> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
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> Yes, we find it quite useful to fill the gap btween 3rd July and 5th July.
Bloody conservatives.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294581 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 01:44 |
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On 4 Jul, Sanity wrote:
> Mike Stevens wrote:
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>> rich hammett wrote:
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>>>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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>>> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
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>> Yes, we find it quite useful to fill the gap btween 3rd July and 5th July.
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> Bloody conservatives.
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This is nothing to do with the date, right? Just a drive-by political
comment?
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Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #294592 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 02:25 |
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in article 1hhz2xv.1uctgwz1kc3myiN%aqusenet [at] mailinator.com, Aquarion at
aqusenet [at] mailinator.com wrote on 04/07/2006 2:48 PM:
> Blake <blake_hugh [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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> Ah, the day we finally rid ourselves of the bloody colonials.
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> *sips tea and reads his copy of The Times*[1]
Not The Times Colonist?
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Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #294601 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 06:05 |
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"Blake" <blake_hugh [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9ovqg.96088$I61.42076 [at] clgrps13...
> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
Fooey on dominant culture holidays, but thanks for the thought.
Aggie Argh
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294626 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 08:29 |
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Mike Stevens said:
> rich hammett wrote:
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>>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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>> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
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> Yes, we find it quite useful to fill the gap btween 3rd July and 5th July.
Gap? What gap?
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Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294672 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 12:56 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:36:15 +0000, rich hammett wrote:
> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
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> rich
Probably not but we should in Wales! ;) We provided Thomas Jefferson and
George Washington among others ;)
Besides, any excuse to poke fun at the English[1] is a good one :)
[1] Humour.... put the Army away and step back from the Severn Bridge
keeping your hands where I can see them ;)
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Kind regards,
Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294676 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 12:07 |
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Richard Heathfield <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Mike Stevens said:
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> > rich hammett wrote:
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> >>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
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> >> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
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> > Yes, we find it quite useful to fill the gap btween 3rd July and 5th July.
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> Gap? What gap?
The one where people get preppy clothes.
--
This is a signature of great significance. It says that the replyto
works better than the from address, that some of my websites are at:
www.aquarionics.com (Journal) and section.istic.net (Multipart stories)
and lastly a quote: "A good analogy is like a diagonal frog" - Kai.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294706 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 15:27 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:44:28 +0100, Brian Howlett
<news-spamtrap [at] brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
>On 4 Jul, Sanity wrote:
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>> Mike Stevens wrote:
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>>> rich hammett wrote:
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>>>>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
>>>>
>>>> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
>>>
>>> Yes, we find it quite useful to fill the gap btween 3rd July and 5th July.
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>> Bloody conservatives.
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>This is nothing to do with the date, right? Just a drive-by political
>comment?
Or as old fat king George III wrote in his diary on 4 July 1776.
Nothing of importance happened today
Being in the US we see this as a sign of cluelessness. Of course it
is really a sign of slow communications.
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John Duncan Yoyo
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Brought to you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee.
Coruscant is far, far away from wesa on Naboo.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294729 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 18:49 |
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In article <38fna2holteouh67drtd90edvo6ei65gqk [at] 4ax.com>,
John Duncan Yoyo <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote:
>Or as old fat king George III wrote in his diary on 4 July 1776.
>Nothing of importance happened today
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>Being in the US we see this as a sign of cluelessness. Of course it
>is really a sign of slow communications.
Or satire.
Cat.
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Jazz-Loving Soul Mate and Tolerable Frog to CCA
Yes, I've read a poem. Try not to faint.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294737 ] |
Mi, 05 Juli 2006 19:59 |
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CeltiKaos wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:36:15 +0000, rich hammett wrote:
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>> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
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>> rich
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> Probably not but we should in Wales! ;) We provided Thomas Jefferson and
> George Washington among others ;)
Bzzt! Are you sure, Julian?
I know TJ was one of us, but I thought Washington was a Geordie. That's
why the Empire took its belated revenge on him by naming one of those
hideous 'new towns' after him up there.
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Regards
Nigel Stapley
www.judgemental.plus.com
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #294797 ] |
Do, 06 Juli 2006 00:27 |
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:59:12 +0100, Nigel Stapley wrote:
> Bzzt! Are you sure, Julian?
I'll have to check up but I'm *fairly* sure :)
Either way the US Constitution was probably originally drafted in Welsh ;)
1. Everyone can say what they like see?
Uhm Thomas, how about 'Freedom of speech"?
Aye alright then :)
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Kind regards,
Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296773 ] |
Do, 06 Juli 2006 20:20 |
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CeltiKaos wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:59:12 +0100, Nigel Stapley wrote:
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>> Bzzt! Are you sure, Julian?
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> I'll have to check up but I'm *fairly* sure :)
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> Either way the US Constitution was probably originally drafted in Welsh ;)
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> 1. Everyone can say what they like see?
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> Uhm Thomas, how about 'Freedom of speech"?
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> Aye alright then :)
Gotta let people bare their arms 'n all, inni'?
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Regards
Nigel Stapley
www.judgemental.plus.com
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296843 ] |
Fr, 07 Juli 2006 01:48 |
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On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:20:36 +0100, Nigel Stapley wrote:
> Gotta let people bare their arms 'n all, inni'?
That was the second draft. In the first one Yogi got a shotgun :)
--
Kind regards,
Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296845 ] |
Fr, 07 Juli 2006 01:49 |
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Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, The Stainless Steel Cat:
> In article <38fna2holteouh67drtd90edvo6ei65gqk [at] 4ax.com>,
> John Duncan Yoyo <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>Or as old fat king George III wrote in his diary on 4 July 1776.
>>Nothing of importance happened today
>>
>>Being in the US we see this as a sign of cluelessness. Of course it
>>is really a sign of slow communications.
> Or satire.
So, what DID happen on July 4, 1776?
rich
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| [I]Happy 4th [message #296851 ] |
Fr, 07 Juli 2006 02:31 |
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r> So, what DID happen on July 4, 1776?
Some politicians got together and grumbled about taxes and personal
freedoms. Same old bitch, different day.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296885 ] |
Fr, 07 Juli 2006 10:50 |
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On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:49:36 -0000, rich hammett
<bubbarichau [at] warmmail.com> wrote:
>Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
>olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, The Stainless Steel Cat:
>> In article <38fna2holteouh67drtd90edvo6ei65gqk [at] 4ax.com>,
>> John Duncan Yoyo <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>Or as old fat king George III wrote in his diary on 4 July 1776.
>>>Nothing of importance happened today
>>>
>>>Being in the US we see this as a sign of cluelessness. Of course it
>>>is really a sign of slow communications.
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>> Or satire.
>
>So, what DID happen on July 4, 1776?
Nothing important.
<g, d, rlb>
--
Andy (George) Brown
I've noticed lately that the paranoid fear of computers becoming intelligent
and taking over the world has almost entirely disappeared from the common
culture. Near as I can tell, this coincides with the release of MS-DOS.
-- Larry DeLuca
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296926 ] |
Fr, 07 Juli 2006 18:25 |
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CeltiKaos wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:20:36 +0100, Nigel Stapley wrote:
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>> Gotta let people bare their arms 'n all, inni'?
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> That was the second draft. In the first one Yogi got a shotgun :)
That was the *first* Boo-boo.
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Regards
Nigel Stapley
www.judgemental.plus.com
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296948 ] |
Fr, 07 Juli 2006 21:55 |
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rich hammett <bubbarichau [at] warmmail.com> wrote:
> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, The Stainless Steel Cat:
> > In article <38fna2holteouh67drtd90edvo6ei65gqk [at] 4ax.com>,
> > John Duncan Yoyo <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote:
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> >>Or as old fat king George III wrote in his diary on 4 July 1776.
> >>Nothing of importance happened today
> >>
> >>Being in the US we see this as a sign of cluelessness. Of course it
> >>is really a sign of slow communications.
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> > Or satire.
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> So, what DID happen on July 4, 1776?
Democracy was stabbed in the back.
Richard
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296979 ] |
Sa, 08 Juli 2006 01:09 |
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"rich hammett" <bubbarichau [at] warmmail.com> wrote in message
news:12ar8cga72sn566 [at] corp.supernews.com...
> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, The Stainless Steel Cat:
>> In article <38fna2holteouh67drtd90edvo6ei65gqk [at] 4ax.com>,
>> John Duncan Yoyo <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>Or as old fat king George III wrote in his diary on 4 July 1776.
>>>Nothing of importance happened today
>>>
>>>Being in the US we see this as a sign of cluelessness. Of course it
>>>is really a sign of slow communications.
>
>> Or satire.
>
> So, what DID happen on July 4, 1776?
It was the dawning of the age of Aquarius?
:|
Not signing my name cuz even I am ashamed of that.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #296980 ] |
Sa, 08 Juli 2006 01:10 |
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"Nigel Stapley" <unet [at] judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
news:44ae8b06$0$69401$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> CeltiKaos wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:20:36 +0100, Nigel Stapley wrote:
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>>> Gotta let people bare their arms 'n all, inni'?
>>
>> That was the second draft. In the first one Yogi got a shotgun :)
>
> That was the *first* Boo-boo.
It's much safer to arm bears than it is to arm Bushes.
***looks for hat***
Aggie
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #297004 ] |
Sa, 08 Juli 2006 03:04 |
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"Aggie Angst" wrote ...
> "rich hammett" wrote
<snip>
>> So, what DID happen on July 4, 1776?
> It was the dawning of the age of Aquarius?
>
You, madam, owe me a new nose.
Fizzy beverages are not meant to be taken, or,
for that matter, given, nasally.
Argh.
April.
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #297094 ] |
Sa, 08 Juli 2006 18:49 |
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"April Goodwin-Smith" <agoodwinsmith [at] shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:swDrg.132985$IK3.16215 [at] pd7tw1no...
> "Aggie Angst" wrote ...
>> "rich hammett" wrote
> <snip>
>>> So, what DID happen on July 4, 1776?
>> It was the dawning of the age of Aquarius?
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> You, madam, owe me a new nose.
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> Fizzy beverages are not meant to be taken, or,
> for that matter, given, nasally.
>
> Argh.
>
> April.
You know there are practicing homeopaths that charge quite a lot for a good
nasal cleansing!
I am providing a *service*.
;)
Aggie
The Nasalnator
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #297332 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 00:16 |
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Blake wrote:
> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."
<FX: Fireworks>
But I like fireworks.
Thenkew.
-Rock
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| Re: [I]Happy 4th [message #297342 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 00:47 |
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rich hammett wrote:
> Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
> olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Blake:
>
>>Oops, sorry, forgot to tag that.
>>Blake wrote:
>>
>>>Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
>
>
> Do they have the 4th of July in England?
They have that date everywhere, but only in America is it a National
Holiday, called affectionately, "Blow Shit Up Day."
-Rock
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #297348 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 01:04 |
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"Rocky Frisco" <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:llAsg.332270$5Z.233552 [at] dukeread02...
> Blake wrote:
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>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
>
> "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."
....with Religion coming in as a close second, and Business at third.
Actually, all three are so closely related nowadays that it's becoming
difficult to tell them apart.
>
> <FX: Fireworks>
>
> But I like fireworks.
>
After about five days, though, they become a bit tiresome (Yes, I was still
hearing "KA-BLOOEY" here in the neighborhood yesterday.)
--
Paul E. Jamison
"I traveled to a planet with no bilateral symmetry
and all I got was this lousy F-shirt."
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #297355 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 02:30 |
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Paul E. Jamison said:
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> "Rocky Frisco" <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:llAsg.332270$5Z.233552 [at] dukeread02...
>> Blake wrote:
>>
>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
>>
>> "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."
>
> ...with Religion coming in as a close second,
Well, religion has indeed been the last refuge of a great many
ex-scoundrels, but presumably you are referring to those who abuse religion
for selfish ends; no argument there. Nevertheless, I wouldn't put it as
high as second place; not when we have Politics.
> and Business at third.
> Actually, all three are so closely related nowadays that it's becoming
> difficult to tell them apart.
Personally, I don't have any problems distinguishing them. But for those
whose principal, or only, exposure to religion is through televangelists,
you have a very valid point.
<snip>
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #297356 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 03:57 |
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Paul E. Jamison wrote:
> "Rocky Frisco" <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
>><FX: Fireworks>
>>
>>But I like fireworks.
>>
>
> After about five days, though, they become a bit tiresome (Yes, I was still
> hearing "KA-BLOOEY" here in the neighborhood yesterday.)
>
That was the Italians celebrating their World Cup victory.
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| Re: Happy 4th [message #297357 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 04:45 |
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"Paul E. Jamison" <pjamison2 [at] cox.net> wrote in message
news:b2Bsg.18237$f76.11908 [at] dukeread06...
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> "Rocky Frisco" <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:llAsg.332270$5Z.233552 [at] dukeread02...
>> Blake wrote:
>>
>>> Happy 4th of July to them as celebrate it.
>>
>> "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."
>
> ...with Religion coming in as a close second, and Business at third.
> Actually, all three are so closely related nowadays that it's becoming
> difficult to tell them apart.
I think you must be scanning me. After I heard Ken Lay talk about what a
religious man he was, I decided religion had to be in that scoundrel-y mix.
Obviously his god doesn't mind him scamming little old ladies.
:p
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>> <FX: Fireworks>
>>
>> But I like fireworks.
>>
> After about five days, though, they become a bit tiresome (Yes, I was
> still hearing "KA-BLOOEY" here in the neighborhood yesterday.)
I'm *still* hearing them. I think I've managed to develop PTSD this year
from it.
:p
Aggie
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| Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #297363 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 05:19 |
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Paul E. Jamison said:
[religion, business, politics, patriotism]
>> Actually, all three are so closely related nowadays that it's becoming
>> difficult to tell them apart.
>
> Personally, I don't have any problems distinguishing them. But for those
> whose principal, or only, exposure to religion is through televangelists,
> you have a very valid point.
How much exposure to televangelists do you get in .uk? In .au we get
practically none whatsoever, unless you watch television between about
4am and 6am when everyone else is asleep. I think Australians are more
likely to learn about televangelists through media clips about how
awful televangelists are, than from televangelists.
On the few occasions that I've actually watched a televangelist (I do
lots of things for research purposes), I've rarely if ever seen them
do the things they're mostly criticised for, such as talking a lot
about money and how much God approves of it. I'm not disputing that a
lot of prominent televangelists /do/ promote that message, but I'm
saying that we get very little direct exposure to them. Not a
complaint, btw.
An example of a televangelist that I've watched at least once is Joyce
Meyer. I didn't watch enough to get a grip on her philosophical
biases, when I was watching but she didn't say anything that raised my
blood pressure at all. What stuck most in my memory is the way she
decorates the stage as though it were a funeral, but I'm almost sure
that's not actually a heresy.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Exposure to televangelists // was Happy 4th [message #297380 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 08:56 |
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8'FED said:
> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> Paul E. Jamison said:
>
> [religion, business, politics, patriotism]
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>>> Actually, all three are so closely related nowadays that it's becoming
>>> difficult to tell them apart.
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>> Personally, I don't have any problems distinguishing them. But for those
>> whose principal, or only, exposure to religion is through televangelists,
>> you have a very valid point.
>
> How much exposure to televangelists do you get in .uk?
Personally, almost none, since I don't watch television. But sometimes I'm
out a-visitin'.
When I was a kid, if we got a visitor, the TV went /off/. Immediately. No
questions asked, no appeal, tough cheese. Conversation, it seemed, was
killing the art of television, or so I tried to explain to my parents at
the time. (I was already hooked, you see?)
Nowadays, it seems, this excellent tradition has died. As a result, one is
exposed to TV when on a visit, in much the same way that one gets exposed
to radioactivity when one visits a nuclear incident site, and in each case
one just prays one doesn't get a fatal dose.
So - I sometimes see televangelists on friends' sat/cab TV on a so-called
"God channel". The UK version is a lot mellower than the frenetic US style
that is such a cliche', but even so the underlying message was very clear:
Send... Money...
I found it sickening. It is the responsibility of the Church to support its
own work. Asking people for money so that you can buy grain and farming
tools to ship to Africa is fair enough; no man is an island, and we all
have a responsibility to help those less fortunate than ourselves. Asking
people for money so that you can make the payments on your Vauxhall Metoo
and carry on playing at television for another year is *not* fair enough.
It's exploitation, impure and simple.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
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| Re: [I] Happy 4th [message #297441 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 18:58 |
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On 11 Jul, Aggie Angst wrote:
[snip]
> After I heard Ken Lay talk about what a religious man he was, I
> decided religion had to be in that scoundrel-y mix. Obviously his god
> doesn't mind him scamming little old ladies.
[snip]
>
I heard the news of Ken Lay's death on the radio last Wednesday, as I
was driving to work to show "Enron - The Smartest Guys In The Room".
Thoroughly recommended viewing...
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen
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I came home from work the other day and found that someone had
stolen all my furniture, and replaced it with exact replicas...
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