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| AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #291745] |
Di, 27 Juni 2006 20:03 |
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It is once again time to update the official AFT/RABT list of
titles. Not only have a few titles been modified, but we have several
new titles to distribute as well. The previous titles and their
bearers were:
God: Conrad Dunkerson [Conrad simultaneously bore the title Wise
Sage.]
Devil: Michael O'Neill
Queen: Jette Golde
Barbarian King: Ojevind Lang
Steward: Steuard Jensen
Captain of the Guards: Russ
Valiant Warrior: Pradera
Warrior Princess: Ermanna
Court Scribe: Meneldil
Fool [Jester]: Donald Shepherd
Damsel-in-Distress: Joy
Lady of the Golden Words: Henriette
Village Idiot: D.G. Porter
Conrad Dunkerson retains his title as the GOD of the Tolkien
newsgroups, but it has recently occurred to me that the title of Wise
Sage is redundant since, by definition, a God should be wise. The
title of WISE SAGE is therefore transferred to the wisest of the many
wise sages in AFT/RABT: Troels Forchhammer. Congratulations, Troels.
:-)
There were some doubts about whether Michael O'Neill still
qualified as the Devil of AFT/RABT, but that issue was recently
settled when O'Neill dared to praise Michael Martinez and thereby
proved that he is still evil to the core. :-) Michael O'Neill
therefore retains his title of DEVIL.
Jette Golde has been dethroned as the QUEEN of AFT/RABT by Belba
Grubb From Stock. Congratulations, Barb! All shall love you or
despair or both! As our new queen, your first duty is to determine
the fate of your deposed rival. May I suggest locking her in a
dungeon with only a copy of the movie "Braveheart" for entertainment?
;-)
It was a mighty duel in strange Scandinavian tongues, but
ultimately Ojevind Lang prevailed over his arch-rival Raven to retain
his title of BARBARIAN KING. Congratulations, Ojevind! (I should
advise you to be vigilant, however, as I do not doubt that even now
Raven is sharpening his command of Scandinavian languages as well as
his axes with the intent of seizing your crown.)
The fate of our Steward is somewhat problematic. On one hand,
Steuard Jensen deserves nothing but the highest praise for his work in
maintaining the FAQ as well as publishing a few brilliant essays and
answering the questions of the newbies. Well done, Steuard!
< pause to allow a mighty crescendo of applause and cheering to
diminish >
On the other hand, as Steuard himself has admitted, he has
effectively abandoned AFT to off-topic political posts in favor of the
more reserved RABT. Bad Steward!
< SPANK >
In consideration of the extenuating circumstances (i.e. his
academic work and the fact that we can't find anybody else to do the
job for free), it has been decided to forgive Steuard and allow him to
retain his title of STEWARD. Congratulations, Steuard! :-)
Pradera has abandoned the Tolkien newsgroups. He is stripped of
his title and a curse is placed upon him. Henceforth, he shall suffer
from an irresistible compulsion to collect The California Raisins
memorabilia until the end of his days. He will even feel compelled to
memorize and hum the song "I Heard It on the Grapevine."
The title of VALIANT WARRIOR now passes to Tar-Elenion.
Congratulation, Tar-Elenion! :-)
Our WARRIOR PRINCESS Ermanna rarely posts to these forums anymore
(perhaps she is preoccupied with college?) and she is in any case a
generous and noble lady with a surplus of titles. I am sure that she
will not mind if the title of WARRIOR PRINCESS is transferred to
Shanahan. Congratulations, Ciaran. :-)
Russ has been absent from the Tolkien newsgroups far too
frequently and for far too much time. He is stripped of his title,
demoted to the rank of MAN-AT-ARMS and sentenced to be flogged for his
insolence. The title CAPTAIN OF THE GUARDS now passes to Raven.
Congratulations, Raven! :-) As a reward for your steady
participation and intriguing posts of the past year, you may choose
how many lashes Russ shall receive.
Donald Shepherd has abandoned the Tolkien newsgroups. He is
stripped of his title and a curse is placed upon him. Henceforth, he
shall never again be able to pass a pile of dirty dishes without
bursting into song:
Chip the glasses and crack the plates!
Blunt the knives and bend the forks!
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates--
Smash the bottles and burn the corks!
Cut the cloth and tread on the fat!
Pour the milk on the pantry floor!
Leaves the bones on the bedroom mat!
Splash the wine on every door!
Dump the crocks in a boiling bowl;
Pound them up with a thumping pole;
And when you've finished, if any are whole
Send them down the hall to roll!
That's what Bilbo Baggins hates!
So, carefully! carefully with the plates!
The title of FOOL is now bestowed upon the Flame of the West.
Congratulations, Solinas! ; -)
The miserable wretch known as Meneldil/TT Arvind has committed
the unpardonable sin of failing to post the Top 10 lists. He is
stripped of his title and a curse is placed upon him. Henceforth, he
shall be tormented by an irresistible urge to study obscure ancient
Polynesian languages.
The title of COURT SCRIBE now passes to Christopher Kreuzer.
Congratulations, Christopher! You should take a lesson from the fate
of our last scribe and resume working on your History of the Tolkien
Newsgroups. ;-) [1]
The title of DAMSEL-IN-DISTRESS is temporarily retired because
Joy has abandoned us to a Joy-less existence and also because--as
anyone who dissed her beloved Faramir discovered--she has an
impressive set of claws and fangs. We have a number of fair damsels
in the Tolkien newsgroups now, but none who truly merit the title and
it is therefore retired until further notice.
Henriette retains her title LADY OF THE GOLDEN WORDS.
Congratulations, Henriette! :-)
The title of VILLAGE IDIOT passes from D.G. Porter to Morgil.
Congratulations, Morgil! Your mastery of the concept of idiocy is an
inspiration to idiots everywhere on the Usenet. ;-)
When I originally began bestowing titles, I conferred the title
of RESIDENT GADFLY upon Russ because he was so annoying. That title
then passed to David Sulger until he abandoned the Tolkien newsgroups.
(Incidentally, a curse is also placed upon David Sulger. Henceforth,
he will suffer from an irresistible compulsion to translate Russian
limericks into Gaelic.) There are still several annoying residents
here, of course, but I do not now feel that the term gadfly can truly
be considered to lie within the realm of fantasy and accordingly I
have discarded the title. The only medieval equivalent which I could
think of was "knave" and I don't think that quite describes the role.
If anybody else has a better suggestion, please let me know as I wish
to assign the title to R. Dan Henry. :-)
I also wish to assign a title to Larry Swain, but I could not
think of the medieval term for a linguist. I considered the term
"cleric" but that just seemed too quasi-religious. Suggestions would
be appreciated. :-)
We also have a number of new titles to bestow:
The title of MASTER OF RITES AND CEREMONIES is hereby conferred
upon Stan Brown. If you want to know anything about etiquette in the
Tolkien newsgroups, just ask Stan.
Count Menelvagor is hereby appointed the official SCOURGE of
AFT/RABT. It is his duty to administer the punishments decreed by the
authorized individuals. [2] (Fortunately, Balrogs always have an
ample supply of whips, chains and other fun toys. :) His first task
is to flog Russ. We trust that he will attend to this task with all
due speed.
No fantasy series is complete without a MYSTIC. Fortunately,
AFT/RABT also has its own mystic in the person of Hashemon Urtasman.
Congratulations, Hashemon! :-)
The late and irreplaceable Softrat has been posthumously awarded
the title of the official OGRE of AFT/RABT. I am sure that he would
have been pleased or, at the least, would have had a wittily sarcastic
comment. You will always be missed, Softie! :-(
In the past, I have refrained from bestowing a title on myself
since it did not seem appropriate, but it has recently occurred to me
that I am an arrogant, elitist snob and therefore have not only the
right, but indeed the obligation to confer honors upon myself. In
that spirit, Morgoth's Curse is henceforth the official SEER of
AFT/RABT. If you want to know what the future will be, just ask me.
(Whether I choose to answer is, of course, a whole different issue.)
[1] In all seriousness, Christopher, how do you feel about the idea
of taking over the responsibility for the Top Ten statistics? I
understand that you are busy with the COTW discussions, of course, and
do not wish to add to your burdens. It should not be unduly
time-consuming with the right program, but I could be wrong.
[2] At this time only three people are authorized to order
punishments: Conrad Dunkerson, Steuard Jensen and Morgoth's Curse.
Justice has always been the prerogative of gods and stewards, of
course, and Morgoth's Curse is also entitled to decree punishments
since he is indisputably the best authority on what constitutes
Tolkien fandom.
Morgoth's Curse
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #291752 ] |
Di, 27 Juni 2006 21:46 |
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Morgoth's Curse wrote:
>
> It is once again time to update
> the official AFT/RABT list of titles.
<snip>
> There were some doubts about whether Michael O'Neill still
> qualified as the Devil of AFT/RABT, but that issue was recently
> settled when O'Neill dared to praise Michael Martinez and thereby
> proved that he is still evil to the core. :-) Michael O'Neill
> therefore retains his title of DEVIL.
<snip>
It seems you ungjrateful fjeudal fjuckheads have forgotten to bestow any
title on him who is not to be named - oh, I see. Yes, it DOES sort of
defeat the purpose.
Well, then, carry on.
<continues to sharpen teeth...>
M.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #291753 ] |
Di, 27 Juni 2006 21:47 |
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Wes =F0u Morgoth's Curse hal!
> [1] In all seriousness, Christopher, how do you feel about the idea
> of taking over the responsibility for the Top Ten statistics? I
> understand that you are busy with the COTW discussions, of course, and
> do not wish to add to your burdens. It should not be unduly
> time-consuming with the right program, but I could be wrong.
I stopped posting them largely because (a) there was not much interest=20
in them any longer in this newsgroup (b) I got sick of the political=20
flamefests heading the statistics (c) Google provides the statistics=20
for anyone who cares to access its website. If I am wrong about (a) I=20
will be happy to start posting them again, but I doubt I am given that=20
yours is the first comment on it in the eighteen months or so since I=20
stopped posting them.
--=20
Les grandes personnes sont d=E9cid=E9ment bien bizarres, se dit le petit=20
prince.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #291757 ] |
Di, 27 Juni 2006 22:00 |
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Morgoth's Curse kirjoitti:
> The title of VILLAGE IDIOT passes from D.G. Porter to Morgil.
> Congratulations, Morgil! Your mastery of the concept of idiocy is an
> inspiration to idiots everywhere on the Usenet. ;-)
I would gladly play the Village Idiot in your little fantasies,
if it only would stop you from digging up and restarting already
forgotten flame-threads.
Morgil
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #291763 ] |
Di, 27 Juni 2006 23:07 |
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Morgoth's Curse wrote:
> Count Menelvagor is hereby appointed the official SCOURGE of
> AFT/RABT. It is his duty to administer the punishments decreed by the
> authorized individuals. [2] (Fortunately, Balrogs always have an
> ample supply of whips, chains and other fun toys. :) His first task
> is to flog Russ. We trust that he will attend to this task with all
> due speed.
we are pleased to accept this title, for the idea of inflicting
punishments amuses us.
such punishments will be determined by us, although we will take care
to invoke the names of said authorised individuals *at first*, before
our coup plans come to fruition.
(i feel plural.)
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #291768 ] |
Di, 27 Juni 2006 23:07 |
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In message <news:fpr2a25ma65bn973akuu5kirid4dfn8h4d [at] 4ax.com>
Morgoth's Curse <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> enriched us
with:
>
<snip>
> I also wish to assign a title to Larry Swain, but I could not
> think of the medieval term for a linguist.
[...]
> Suggestions would be appreciated. :-)
Alderman -- if necessary 'Alderman of Words'
(More comments to follow at another time)
--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
To make a name for learning
when other roads are barred,
take something very easy
and make it very hard.
- Piet Hein, /Wide Road/
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #292215 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 01:58 |
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"Morgoth's Curse" <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:fpr2a25ma65bn973akuu5kirid4dfn8h4d [at] 4ax.com...
> It is once again time to update the official AFT/RABT list of
> titles. Not only have a few titles been modified, but we have several
> new titles to distribute as well. The previous titles and their
> bearers were:
[snip]
> When I originally began bestowing titles, I conferred the title
> of RESIDENT GADFLY upon Russ because he was so annoying. That title
> then passed to David Sulger until he abandoned the Tolkien newsgroups.
> (Incidentally, a curse is also placed upon David Sulger. Henceforth,
> he will suffer from an irresistible compulsion to translate Russian
> limericks into Gaelic.) There are still several annoying residents
> here, of course, but I do not now feel that the term gadfly can truly
> be considered to lie within the realm of fantasy and accordingly I
> have discarded the title. The only medieval equivalent which I could
> think of was "knave" and I don't think that quite describes the role.
> If anybody else has a better suggestion, please let me know as I wish
> to assign the title to R. Dan Henry. :-)
How about ruffian? Or footpad? Or hedge-knight? Ruffian isn't bad, I think.
> I also wish to assign a title to Larry Swain, but I could not
> think of the medieval term for a linguist. I considered the term
> "cleric" but that just seemed too quasi-religious. Suggestions would
> be appreciated. :-)
Speech-master? Or, with a learned phrase, magister linguorum?
> We also have a number of new titles to bestow:
>
> The title of MASTER OF RITES AND CEREMONIES is hereby conferred
> upon Stan Brown. If you want to know anything about etiquette in the
> Tolkien newsgroups, just ask Stan.
Yes, indeed. In fact, you don't even have to ask him.
[snip]
> The late and irreplaceable Softrat has been posthumously awarded
> the title of the official OGRE of AFT/RABT. I am sure that he would
> have been pleased or, at the least, would have had a wittily sarcastic
> comment. You will always be missed, Softie! :-(
Amen. Bless you, George.
Öjevind
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #292216 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 01:59 |
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"TT Arvind" <ttarvind [at] hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:MPG.1f0b9b9bb949eeae989cf5 [at] news.individual.net...
>Wes ðu Morgoth's Curse hal!
>> [1] In all seriousness, Christopher, how do you feel about the idea
>> of taking over the responsibility for the Top Ten statistics? I
>> understand that you are busy with the COTW discussions, of course, and
>> do not wish to add to your burdens. It should not be unduly
>> time-consuming with the right program, but I could be wrong.
>I stopped posting them largely because (a) there was not much interest
in them any longer in this newsgroup (b) I got sick of the political
flamefests heading the statistics (c) Google provides the statistics
for anyone who cares to access its website. If I am wrong about (a) I
will be happy to start posting them again, but I doubt I am given that
yours is the first comment on it in the eighteen months or so since I
stopped posting them.
I'd like to see them again.
Öjevind
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #292219 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 02:27 |
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"Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net [at] ojevind.lang> wrote in message
news:4gdv30F1mgrf7U1 [at] individual.net...
> "TT Arvind" <ttarvind [at] hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:MPG.1f0b9b9bb949eeae989cf5 [at] news.individual.net...
>>Wes ðu Morgoth's Curse hal!
>>> [1] In all seriousness, Christopher, how do you feel about the idea
>>> of taking over the responsibility for the Top Ten statistics? I
>>> understand that you are busy with the COTW discussions, of course, and
>>> do not wish to add to your burdens. It should not be unduly
>>> time-consuming with the right program, but I could be wrong.
>
>>I stopped posting them largely because (a) there was not much interest
> in them any longer in this newsgroup (b) I got sick of the political
> flamefests heading the statistics (c) Google provides the statistics
> for anyone who cares to access its website. If I am wrong about (a) I
> will be happy to start posting them again, but I doubt I am given that
> yours is the first comment on it in the eighteen months or so since I
> stopped posting them.
I very rarely, if ever, responded on those threads, but I did learn a great
deal. There are many people on the site who appreciated them, even if it was
never outwardly stated.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #292220 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 02:28 |
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"Morgil" <morestelx [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c7gog.10390$fl3.1912 [at] reader1.news.jippii.net...
> Morgoth's Curse kirjoitti:
>
>> The title of VILLAGE IDIOT passes from D.G. Porter to Morgil.
>> Congratulations, Morgil! Your mastery of the concept of idiocy is an
>> inspiration to idiots everywhere on the Usenet. ;-)
>
> I would gladly play the Village Idiot in your little fantasies,
> if it only would stop you from digging up and restarting already
> forgotten flame-threads.
>
> Morgil
The funny thing is that it isn't play
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #292221 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 03:02 |
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"Count Menelvagor" <Menelvagor [at] mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:1151443908.092572.281450 [at] b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Morgoth's Curse wrote:
>
> > Count Menelvagor is hereby appointed the official SCOURGE of
> > AFT/RABT. It is his duty to administer the punishments decreed by the
> > authorized individuals. [2] (Fortunately, Balrogs always have an
> > ample supply of whips, chains and other fun toys. :) His first task
> > is to flog Russ. We trust that he will attend to this task with all
> > due speed.
>
> we are pleased to accept this title, for the idea of inflicting
> punishments amuses us.
>
> such punishments will be determined by us, although we will take care
> to invoke the names of said authorised individuals *at first*, before
> our coup plans come to fruition.
>
> (i feel plural.)
# I feel plural,
Oh, so plural;
I feel plural and double and dual!
Plus I'm puerile,
And find everybody else a fool! #
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #292230 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 06:27 |
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BaJoRi kirjoitti:
> "Morgil" <morestelx [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c7gog.10390$fl3.1912 [at] reader1.news.jippii.net...
>
>>Morgoth's Curse kirjoitti:
>>
>>
>>>The title of VILLAGE IDIOT passes from D.G. Porter to Morgil.
>>>Congratulations, Morgil! Your mastery of the concept of idiocy is an
>>>inspiration to idiots everywhere on the Usenet. ;-)
>>
>>I would gladly play the Village Idiot in your little fantasies,
>>if it only would stop you from digging up and restarting already
>>forgotten flame-threads.
>>
>>Morgil
>
>
> The funny thing is that it isn't play
Haven't you been flogged enough for one week already?
Morgil
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293168 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 14:16 |
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Morgil wrote:
> BaJoRi kirjoitti:
> > "Morgil" <morestelx [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:c7gog.10390$fl3.1912 [at] reader1.news.jippii.net...
> >
> >>Morgoth's Curse kirjoitti:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The title of VILLAGE IDIOT passes from D.G. Porter to Morgil.
> >>>Congratulations, Morgil! Your mastery of the concept of idiocy is an
> >>>inspiration to idiots everywhere on the Usenet. ;-)
> >>
> >>I would gladly play the Village Idiot in your little fantasies,
> >>if it only would stop you from digging up and restarting already
> >>forgotten flame-threads.
> >>
> >>Morgil
> >
> >
> > The funny thing is that it isn't play
>
> Haven't you been flogged enough for one week already?
>
> Morgil
Tsk! Leave some for me.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293170 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 14:20 |
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"Sam's the little guy" <samdekat [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151496991.900176.30180 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Morgil wrote:
>> BaJoRi kirjoitti:
>> > "Morgil" <morestelx [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:c7gog.10390$fl3.1912 [at] reader1.news.jippii.net...
>> >
>> >>Morgoth's Curse kirjoitti:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>The title of VILLAGE IDIOT passes from D.G. Porter to Morgil.
>> >>>Congratulations, Morgil! Your mastery of the concept of idiocy is an
>> >>>inspiration to idiots everywhere on the Usenet. ;-)
>> >>
>> >>I would gladly play the Village Idiot in your little fantasies,
>> >>if it only would stop you from digging up and restarting already
>> >>forgotten flame-threads.
>> >>
>> >>Morgil
>> >
>> >
>> > The funny thing is that it isn't play
>>
>> Haven't you been flogged enough for one week already?
>>
>> Morgil
>
> Tsk! Leave some for me.
>
Yeah. The world is fearful of the intellectual prowess of you two clowns.
Ha.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293174 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 14:50 |
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In message <news:fpr2a25ma65bn973akuu5kirid4dfn8h4d [at] 4ax.com>
Morgoth's Curse <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> enriched us
with:
>
<snip>
> Conrad Dunkerson retains his title as the GOD of the Tolkien
> newsgroups,
<http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/god.htm>
> The title of WISE SAGE is therefore transferred to the wisest of
> the many wise sages in AFT/RABT: Troels Forchhammer.
> Congratulations, Troels.
>:-)
<insert appropriately smug protestations of unworthiness>
;-)
I am, of course, grateful -- thanks.
<snip>
> The fate of our Steward is somewhat problematic.
<snip>
> Well done, Steuard!
Clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap!
> < pause to allow a mighty crescendo of applause and cheering
> to diminish >
Oh, I forgot the cheering -- can I have a little extra time?
<snip>
> it has been decided to forgive Steuard and allow him to retain
> his title of STEWARD.
And of course the pun is irrestible ;-)
> Congratulations, Steuard! :-)
Indeed.
> The title of VALIANT WARRIOR now passes to Tar-Elenion.
> Congratulation, Tar-Elenion! :-)
I would consider 'PROPHET' as also an appropriate title to bestow on
Tar-Elenion, though possibly a bit cruel (since one must inevitably ask
oneself, 'a prophet of whom?' <G>)
<snip>
> The title of COURT SCRIBE now passes to Christopher Kreuzer.
> Congratulations, Christopher!
Christopher will henceforth be found in the annex,
rec.arts.books.tolkien.scriptorum . . . ;)
> You should take a lesson from the fate of our last scribe and resume
> working on your History of the Tolkien Newsgroups. ;-) [1]
I, too, have been thinking a bit on that project, and might as well try
to look at ways to proceed. Perhaps we should discuss it over a beer
(preferably cold) in a London pub come August ;-)
<snip>
> When I originally began bestowing titles, I conferred the
> title of RESIDENT GADFLY upon Russ because he was so annoying.
And of course we know that the titles are entirely objective ;-)
> The late and irreplaceable Softrat has been posthumously
> awarded the title of the official OGRE of AFT/RABT. I am sure
> that he would have been pleased or, at the least, would have
> had a wittily sarcastic comment.
> You will always be missed, Softie! :-(
Amen!
<snip>
--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
A good bookshop is just a genteel Black Hole that knows
how to read.
- /Guards! Guards!/ (Terry Pratchett)
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293175 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 15:08 |
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BaJoRi wrote:
> >>
> >> Haven't you been flogged enough for one week already?
> >>
> >> Morgil
> >
> > Tsk! Leave some for me.
> >
>
> Yeah. The world is fearful of the intellectual prowess of you two clowns.
Compared to the gormless drooling imbecile that is you, we are
intellectual giants. Example: You claiming to have a quote from the ANC
website, only to be completed contradicted by a real quote - you
further claiming to have posted said imaginary quote - only to have it
revealed that at the time, you were presenting a completely different,
if equally as absurd conspiracy argument. Guess that stings a bit hey?
<non-answer predicted>
> Ha.
Hilarious - you should do a road show. Perhaps you could bring along
your wife and the close friend from the movie th-
ooooh - sorry I forgot. You made that story up.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293176 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 15:18 |
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In message <news:MPG.1f0b9b9bb949eeae989cf5 [at] news.individual.net>
TT Arvind <ttarvind [at] hotmail.com> enriched us with:
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[Top Ten Statistics]
> I stopped posting them largely because
> (a) there was not much interest in them any longer in this
> newsgroup
I'm not sure that that is entirely correct -- I always enjoyed them,
but rarely found reason to comment. They were of the informational
sort that one could rarely comment upon without either bragging (on
the top 10 list) or apologizing (on the bottom 10 lists).
> (b) I got sick of the political flamefests heading the statistics
I can certainly understand that -- I'm wondering if it would be
possible to sort that out, but I think the problem would be how to
decide whether a thread is on-topic or not.
> (c) Google provides the statistics for anyone who cares to
> access its website.
The feature I liked best about your statistics was that you were
able to sort also the quoted/original/.sig ratios.
The service at Google[1] gives only the number of posts (at least I
can't find anything else) for the current month and all-time. The
historical information is available per poster, but again only for
number of posts.
The service from Microsoft[2] gives more details, but still doesn't
provide the 'original content' information.
[1] Google About groups:
< http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books.tolkien/about? hl=en>
[2] Microsoft Research: Netscan
< http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/reportcard.aspx?tp=10& amp;sd=6/21/
2006&ng=rec.arts.books.tolkien> Sorry about the wrapping -- the
TinyURL points there as well: <http://tinyurl.com/la3tz>
> If I am wrong about (a) I will be happy to start posting them
> again, but I doubt I am given that yours is the first comment on
> it in the eighteen months or so since I stopped posting them.
I guess it's been one of those things that I've missed, but not
enough to take up the subject myself -- and which I appreciated, but
not enough to say so regularly. As you note yourself, the 'number
of posts' statistics are available elsewhere, and could easily be
skipped, but the other information was, IMO, valuable, and I would
be happy to see it posted again. I am, however, afraid that it could
well be exactly as ungrateful a job as earlier -- that we may fail
to communicate the interest with which we actually read them.
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Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
The idea that time may vary from place to place is a
difficult one, but it is the idea Einstein used, and it is
correct - believe it or not.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293180 ] |
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"Sam's the little guy" <samdekat [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151500085.978422.38920 [at] 75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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> BaJoRi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Haven't you been flogged enough for one week already?
>> >>
>> >> Morgil
>> >
>> > Tsk! Leave some for me.
>> >
>>
>> Yeah. The world is fearful of the intellectual prowess of you two clowns.
>
> Compared to the gormless drooling imbecile that is you, we are
> intellectual giants.
See, here you go with your head up your ass again, making things up to give
yourself a false sense of reality. You can't even keep from lying about the
smallest things.
http://www.schpaa.com/humor/show.asp?id=insideout.jpg
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293182 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 16:47 |
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BaJoRi wrote:
> "Sam's the little guy" <samdekat [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> See, here you go with your head up your ass again, making things up to give
> yourself a false sense of reality. You can't even keep from lying about the
> smallest things.
>
> http://www.schpaa.com/humor/show.asp?id=insideout.jpg
Admirably grotesque, but compared to your claims in the past, pretty
mild - for example, your claim that it was ok for the Israeli military
to gun down Palestinian children becuase they were throwing rocks -
throwing rocks! Or your snipping of quotes from actual eyewitnesses to
the massacre at Deir Yassin and then pretending that those people were
lying on account of being Palestinian. That kind of rampant racism
shows the implicit form of your shrivelled cowardly little torn soul,
the lies you tell bring into the full glare of sunshine.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293188 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 18:48 |
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TT Arvind wrote:
> I stopped posting them largely because (a) there was not much
> interest in them any longer in this newsgroup
I always liked them. Very much.
T.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293189 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 18:53 |
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Morgoth's Curse wrote:
> The title of FOOL is now bestowed upon the Flame of the West.
> Congratulations, Solinas! ; -)
I want some acknowledgement for Tamf, who is still the Fool of the
Black Club and thereby a better fool than Flame of the West.
T, Massster.
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293194 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 22:04 |
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Morgoth's Curse schreef:
> It is once again time to update the official AFT/RABT list of
> titles.
(snip)
> Queen: Jette Golde
That's Goldie, MC!
> (snip) The
> title of WISE SAGE is therefore transferred to the wisest of the many
> wise sages in AFT/RABT: Troels Forchhammer. Congratulations, Troels.
> :-)
>
Part of Troels's wisdom must be the words of *our* national Dutch
pirate: Piet Hein, which Troels likes to quote;-)
> The title CAPTAIN OF THE GUARDS now passes to Raven.
> Congratulations, Raven! :-)
>
I can already hear him from afar: <whet whet whet whet>
> The miserable wretch known as Meneldil/TT Arvind has committed
> the unpardonable sin of failing to post the Top 10 lists. He is
> stripped of his title and a curse is placed upon him. Henceforth, he
> shall be tormented by an irresistible urge to study obscure ancient
> Polynesian languages.
This is an irresistible urge he already delights in, 'poor miserable
wretch';-)!
I would opt TT Arvind for the title Wise/Sage of AFT/RABT, if it
weren't for his insatiable need to be convinced how every AFT/RABT
poster likes his Top 10 lists and for his sudden lack of memory when it
comes to remembering how many times we have tried to convince him how
much we always have appreciated these!
Maybe TT Arvind can be our Interpreter, because I think he speaks the
biggest amount of languages here, and extremely different ones at that.
>
> Henriette retains her title LADY OF THE GOLDEN WORDS.
> Congratulations, Henriette! :-)
>
That is grand, thank you Morgoth's Curse! It must be my Silence of the
last few months (Silence is Golden) which made my title more fitting
than ever;-)
> The only medieval equivalent which I could
> think of was "knave" and I don't think that quite describes the role.
> If anybody else has a better suggestion, please let me know as I wish
> to assign the title to R. Dan Henry. :-)
>
Bard?
> The late and irreplaceable Softrat has been posthumously awarded
> the title of the official OGRE of AFT/RABT. I am sure that he would
> have been pleased or, at the least, would have had a wittily sarcastic
> comment. You will always be missed, Softie! :-(
>
Softie is being missed, that's for sure.
> In the past, I have refrained from bestowing a title on myself
> since it did not seem appropriate, but it has recently occurred to me
> that I am an arrogant, elitist snob and therefore have not only the
> right, but indeed the obligation to confer honors upon myself. In
> that spirit, Morgoth's Curse is henceforth the official SEER of
> AFT/RABT. If you want to know what the future will be, just ask me.
> (Whether I choose to answer is, of course, a whole different issue.)
>
That is a nice title, especially for someone who dwells so much in the
past, like you do, perfectionalistically reading every single post;-)
Have you yet caught up? This may be a good moment to express my
surprise that over time several posters have expressed being annoyed
because you dig up old threads. I often very much like those 'echo's
from the past'.
> [1] In all seriousness, Christopher, how do you feel about the idea
> of taking over the responsibility for the Top Ten statistics?
It was fun when Chistopher did all-time AFT/RABT poster-by-volume
statistics.
Henriette
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293198 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 22:37 |
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Troels Forchhammer <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> wrote:
> In message <news:fpr2a25ma65bn973akuu5kirid4dfn8h4d [at] 4ax.com>
> Morgoth's Curse <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> enriched us
> with:
<snip>
>> The title of COURT SCRIBE now passes to Christopher Kreuzer.
>> Congratulations, Christopher!
Ooh! Thanks! :-)
As this is a court, do we all dress up in robes or something?
> Christopher will henceforth be found in the annex,
> rec.arts.books.tolkien.scriptorum . . . ;)
Where I tried to look up the meaning of scriptorum! :-)
It seems to be in a long-dead Romance language of some sort...
>> You should take a lesson from the fate of our last scribe and resume
>> working on your History of the Tolkien Newsgroups. ;-) [1]
>
> I, too, have been thinking a bit on that project, and might as well
> try to look at ways to proceed. Perhaps we should discuss it over a
> beer (preferably cold) in a London pub come August ;-)
Most definitely!
I am currently trying to prioritise various things, but that history
project tends to keep hovering around in the background. It really needs
several people to try doing something vaguely organised for a few months
to see if it seems worthwhile and doable. Or at least to learn lessons
in failing in various amusing ways, such as getting side-tracked into
reading old posts, old flame wars, or falling through a crack in the
fabric of space-time (dangerous place USENET, you know).
<snip>
Christopher
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293199 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 22:58 |
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Troels Forchhammer <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> wrote:
> In message <news:MPG.1f0b9b9bb949eeae989cf5 [at] news.individual.net>
> TT Arvind <ttarvind [at] hotmail.com> enriched us with:
>>
>
> [Top Ten Statistics]
>
>> I stopped posting them largely because
>> (a) there was not much interest in them any longer in this
>> newsgroup
>
> I'm not sure that that is entirely correct -- I always enjoyed them,
> but rarely found reason to comment. They were of the informational
> sort that one could rarely comment upon without either bragging (on
> the top 10 list) or apologizing (on the bottom 10 lists).
I enjoyed them as well. I also found a site once (a blog, I think) that
briefly did a weekly digest/summary of the threads that week. That might
be interesting as well, but it is probably the nature of the beast
(USENET) that the dynamic is not quite suited for that sort of thing.
>> (b) I got sick of the political flamefests heading the statistics
>
> I can certainly understand that -- I'm wondering if it would be
> possible to sort that out, but I think the problem would be how to
> decide whether a thread is on-topic or not.
Difficult for the most part, as people often forget to change the
subject header as the topic veers into new areas. Some interesting stuff
can be found in off-topic posts.
>> (c) Google provides the statistics for anyone who cares to
>> access its website.
>
> The feature I liked best about your statistics was that you were
> able to sort also the quoted/original/.sig ratios.
I liked Arvind's statistics posts as well. Enough to save separate
copies of the posts anyway. If more response is needed/wanted, then I'd
suggest that two separate posts are required: (1) Statistics and (2)
Digest of what was discussed. The latter would generate discussion, but
couldn't be generated automatically like the statistics could.
> The service at Google[1] gives only the number of posts (at least I
> can't find anything else) for the current month and all-time. The
> historical information is available per poster, but again only for
> number of posts.
>
> The service from Microsoft[2] gives more details, but still doesn't
> provide the 'original content' information.
<snip URLs>
Thanks for those. I am rather alarmed to find myself perilously near the
top of the all-time posters list for rec.arts.books.tolkien (according
to Google anyway). I've left our trusty 'Steward' trailing in the dust
and am scaling the heights of our incomparable (and much missed) 'Ogre'.
After that, only 'God' and 'He-who-shall-not-be-named' await! :-)
Thankfully the peak of alt.fan.tolkien still remains reassuringly out of
reach.
Hmm. As you can see, "number of posts by X" statistics promote unhealthy
navel-gazing!
Part of the problem seems to be that although those two services have
their advantages and disadvantages, what we really need is a separate
archive of AFT and RABT, as complete as possible, to mine for data
independently of the way it is packaged and presented by those two
services.
One idea that I was particularly excited by the last time such things
were discussed, was the idea of tracing the evolution of discussion on a
particular (Tolkien-related) topic over the 10+ (now approaching 14+)
years of the archives of these newsgroups.
Hmm. I'm _this_ close to digging up the old posts, plans and websites
(yes, it got as far as a website that someone put up somewhere).
Unfortunately I don't have time right now. :-(
Maybe third time lucky? :-)
Christopher
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293200 ] |
Mi, 28 Juni 2006 23:02 |
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Henriette <heldenib [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> It was fun when Chistopher did all-time AFT/RABT poster-by-volume
> statistics.
I have fond memories of that! What was particularly memorable was the
way several old-timers (many I'd never heard of) popped up to identify
themselves with particular noms de plumes, or identifying metamorphoses
between IDs, often binding me to ever-lasting secrecy! :-)
All carefully filed away in the scriptorum, of course!
Christopher
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293201 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 00:57 |
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Wes =F0u Taemon hal!
> TT Arvind wrote:
>=20
> > I stopped posting them largely because (a) there was not much
> > interest in them any longer in this newsgroup
>=20
> I always liked them. Very much.
Point taken comrades. I'll set the script up again this weekend and=20
get things rolling again.
I must say it's a good thing I no longer work in a job where I need to=20
accurately judge how people feel!
--=20
Les grandes personnes sont d=E9cid=E9ment bien bizarres, se dit le petit=20
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293205 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 02:01 |
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Wes =F0u Troels Forchhammer hal!
>=20
> I'm not sure that that is entirely correct -- I always enjoyed them,
> but rarely found reason to comment. They were of the informational
> sort that one could rarely comment upon without either bragging (on
> the top 10 list) or apologizing (on the bottom 10 lists).=20
What I really meant was that I thought that most people, like myself,=20
were sick of the idiotic flames that kept topping the lists and did not=20
miss them for that reason, not that they never were appreciated.
Anyway, I'm halfway through setting up said scripts on the machine I=20
now use, so they will be back in a few days. Be afraid, be very=20
afraid.
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Natten =E4r dagens mor=20
Kaos =E4r granne med Gud
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293206 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 03:22 |
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Quoth Morgoth's Curse <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> in article
<fpr2a25ma65bn973akuu5kirid4dfn8h4d [at] 4ax.com>:
> The fate of our Steward is somewhat problematic.
[...]
> On the other hand, as Steuard himself has admitted, he has
> effectively abandoned AFT to off-topic political posts in favor of
> the more reserved RABT. Bad Steward!
Reently, of course, I've had trouble keeping up with either one. More
on that below. Happily, the political insanity level on AFT hasn't
seemed as bad recently, so I think my earlier reasons for backing off
from there don't apply as much anymore. Whenever I'm able to get back
in the swing around here, I'll try to be a benevolent Steward to both
groups. :)
> In consideration of the extenuating circumstances (i.e. his
> academic work and the fact that we can't find anybody else to do the
> job for free), it has been decided to forgive Steuard and allow him to
> retain his title of STEWARD. Congratulations, Steuard! :-)
Why thank you. :)
I thought I'd take this opportunity to give the groups a very brief
update on my life at the moment, which includes all sorts of
extenuating circumstances. First, at long last I'm scheduled to
defend my Ph.D. thesis two weeks from today. I still have lots of
work to do to be ready for that, but it's going well and I have no
doubt of a positive outcome. Second, I start a job next fall as a
professor in Claremont, California, where I'll be for the next couple
of years (before trying to land a tenure-track position). That should
be fun, though it will keep me busy.
And finally, I seem to be facing a frustrating medical condition
called a "giant cell tumor" in the bone above my right knee. Lots of
evidence thus far indicates that it's benign (like almost all such
tumors), but it's fairly big and it's got to come out. The surgery
will be sometime in July, hopefully not long after my thesis defense.
Recovery will no doubt be long and painful, but from all I've heard
people with these things have very good odds of suffering no major ill
effects in the long term. That doesn't make it any less annoying
right now, though. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Steuard Jensen
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293212 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 09:24 |
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In message <news:tXFog.60$25.5071 [at] news.uchicago.edu>
sbjensen [at] midway.uchicago.edu (Steuard Jensen) enriched us with:
>
<snip>
> I thought I'd take this opportunity to give the groups a very
> brief update on my life at the moment,
<snip details>
Lots of good reasons for us to keep our fingers crossed --
congratulations with the good news, and the best of luck with
everything.
A laita lyë, laitalyë! I Héru as elye!
> I'll let you know how it turns out.
With everything, I hope ;)
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Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293214 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 19:33 |
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TT Arvind schreef:
> Wes =F0u Taemon hal!
> > TT Arvind wrote:
> >
> > > I stopped posting them largely because (a) there was not much
> > > interest in them any longer in this newsgroup
> >
> > I always liked them. Very much.
>
> Point taken comrades. I'll set the script up again this weekend and
> get things rolling again.
>
Thank you, that is kind!
> I must say it's a good thing I no longer work in a job where I need to
> accurately judge how people feel!
>
LOL! Both this last sentence and...
> Les grandes personnes sont d=E9cid=E9ment bien bizarres, se dit le petit
> prince.
..=2E.this one, nicely round up this discussion;-)
Henriette
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293215 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 19:39 |
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Christopher Kreuzer schreef:
> Henriette <heldenib [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > It was fun when Chistopher did all-time AFT/RABT poster-by-volume
> > statistics.
>
> I have fond memories of that! What was particularly memorable was the
> way several old-timers (many I'd never heard of) popped up to identify
> themselves with particular noms de plumes, or identifying metamorphoses
> between IDs, often binding me to ever-lasting secrecy! :-)
>
Something like Pradera got himself a new PC and called himself
Christopher Kreuzer?;-)
Henriette
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293216 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 19:51 |
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Steuard Jensen schreef:
(snip)
>
> I thought I'd take this opportunity to give the groups a very brief
> update on my life at the moment, which includes all sorts of
> extenuating circumstances. First, at long last I'm scheduled to
> defend my Ph.D. thesis two weeks from today.
'On the Origin of Hobbits'?;-) Wonderful, bravo! What is it about?
>I still have lots of
> work to do to be ready for that, but it's going well and I have no
> doubt of a positive outcome. Second, I start a job next fall as a
> professor in Claremont, California, where I'll be for the next couple
> of years (before trying to land a tenure-track position). That should
> be fun, though it will keep me busy.
>
Bravissimo! Well done! As for California, that is one of the best
places I have ever been to, so as far as that goes, you're very
fortunate!
> And finally, I seem to be facing a frustrating medical condition
> called a "giant cell tumor" in the bone above my right knee. Lots of
> evidence thus far indicates that it's benign (like almost all such
> tumors), but it's fairly big and it's got to come out. The surgery
> will be sometime in July, hopefully not long after my thesis defense.
> Recovery will no doubt be long and painful, but from all I've heard
> people with these things have very good odds of suffering no major ill
> effects in the long term. That doesn't make it any less annoying
> right now, though. I'll let you know how it turns out.
>
Please do! This sounds a lot less fortunate... I'll keep my fingers
crossed!
Henriette
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293218 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 20:14 |
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TT Arvind wrote:
> Wes ðu Taemon hal!
>> TT Arvind wrote:
>>> I stopped posting them largely because (a) there was not much
>>> interest in them any longer in this newsgroup
>> I always liked them. Very much.
> Point taken comrades. I'll set the script up again this weekend
> and get things rolling again.
You're welcome, and our thanks.
> I must say it's a good thing I no longer work in a job where I
> need to accurately judge how people feel!
So... how did you lose that job, then?
;-)
T.
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Do, 29 Juni 2006 20:19 |
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Steuard Jensen wrote:
> I'll let you know how it turns out.
Oh, please do! On all of it! Good luck to you!
This sentences is added for the sole purpose of having a sentence
included that does not carry an exclamation mark.
T.
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Do, 29 Juni 2006 21:55 |
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"Laurie Forbes" <moc.rr.eniam [at] 1sebrofr> skrev i meddelandet
news:Uykog.35533$W97.13635 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com...
[smip]
>> (i feel plural.)
>
> # I feel plural,
> Oh, so plural;
> I feel plural and double and dual!
> Plus I'm puerile,
> And find everybody else a fool! #
Tra-la-la-la-la-la-LA!
Oops! Sorry. That should of course be "tra-la-lally".
Öjevind
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293221 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 22:15 |
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Steuard Jensen <sbjensen [at] midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
<snip>
> I thought I'd take this opportunity to give the groups a very brief
> update on my life at the moment, which includes all sorts of
> extenuating circumstances.
Thanks for the update. Good luck with everything, and do let us know how
things turn out.
Christopher
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293222 ] |
Do, 29 Juni 2006 22:56 |
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Henriette <heldenib [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> Something like Pradera got himself a new PC and called himself
> Christopher Kreuzer?;-)
Sadly nothing that complicated.
The earliest message I can find from Pradera is here, on 25 April 2002:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books.tolkien/msg/b8 f943be8a7e6362
And the latest I could find was from 26 January 2004.
It might look like I first posted on 25 December 2002, but there is an
earlier period of posting history, a grand total of 13 posts from 1996
(Hmm. It looks like I missed a 10-year anniversary somewhere in March
this year).
But I'm sure you remember all this from the last time such things were
discussed! <puzzled look> <slaps self on forehead> I see what's going
on here! You are trying to lure me back into trawling through the
history of the newsgroups! Well, you almost succeeded, btu I got
sidetracked by this:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.tolkien/browse_frm/th read/a39460bbef0ec3da
And by this:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.tolkien/browse_frm/th read/969bbebce816917c
And also by this:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.tolkien/browse_frm/th read/798e93cac85e6c9
Very difficult to avoid being sidetracked.
Christopher
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Fr, 30 Juni 2006 01:33 |
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In message <news:b8Xog.93501$wl.31632 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
"Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> enriched us with:
>
<snip>
> <puzzled look> <slaps self on forehead> I see what's going on here!
> You are trying to lure me back into trawling through the history of
> the newsgroups! Well, you almost succeeded, btu I got sidetracked
<snip sidetracks>
> Very difficult to avoid being sidetracked.
I'm suspecting that a history of the Tolkien newsgroups will have to
become an attempt at bringing some order into a great confluence of
sidetracks ;)
I'm still willing to do some of the basic statistics, but a real
newsgroup history will still be a huge project.
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Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo
- /The Fellowship of the Ring/ (J.R.R. Tolkien)
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293227 ] |
Fr, 30 Juni 2006 01:33 |
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In message <news:MPG.1f0d19a5f8cff7ee989cf6 [at] news.individual.net>
TT Arvind <ttarvind [at] hotmail.com> enriched us with:
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> Point taken comrades. I'll set the script up again this weekend
> and get things rolling again.
Yay! ;-)
Oh, and just ask us from time to time if we want them to stop -- we'll
shout our 'No!' in chorus ;)
And, satisfying idle curiosity, does your scripts work on the server or
on your disk?
> I must say it's a good thing I no longer work in a job where I
> need to accurately judge how people feel!
LOL!
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Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
"It would seem that you have no useful skill or talent
whatsoever," he said. "Have you thought of going into
teaching?"
- /Mort/ (Terry Pratchett)
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| Re: AFT/RABT Titles Update [message #293228 ] |
Fr, 30 Juni 2006 01:36 |
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In message <news:b8Xog.93501$wl.31632 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
"Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> enriched us with:
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> <puzzled look> <slaps self on forehead> I see what's going on here!
> You are trying to lure me back into trawling through the history of
> the newsgroups! Well, you almost succeeded, btu I got sidetracked
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> Very difficult to avoid being sidetracked.
I'm suspecting that a history of the Tolkien newsgroups will have to
become an attempt at bringing some order into a great confluence of
sidetracks ;)
I'm still willing to do some of the basic statistics, but a real
newsgroup history will still be a huge project.
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Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo
- /The Fellowship of the Ring/ (J.R.R. Tolkien)
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