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More good news [message #284087] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 01:51
Notifier Deamon  
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Even more good news [message #284090 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 09:47
notin  
Your friend Mastic

Biblical reflections on Pentecost, June 4, 2006, from Jay Wilcoxen,
Ph.D.

The Spirit of God, that creates and sustains life, empowers a community
of
many-voiced witnesses to God's work.

The readings commented on here return to the usual pattern of a
selection
from the Hebrew scriptures and a psalm followed by a selection from the
book of Acts, as an Epistle reading, and a Gospel reading. (The
alternative provided by the Lectionary gives Romans 8:22-27 as the
Epistle
reading and the Acts account of Pentecost in place of the prophetic
reading.)

Ezekiel 37:1-14. When the day celebrates the work of the Spirit of God,
this Prophetic reading may not be the first to come to mind from the
Hebrew scriptures, but its power commands for it a mighty place among
those writings. In current American culture far more people are likely
to
know the spiritual that sings "the knee-bone connected to the
thigh-bone"
than will know the Biblical passage from which it comes. The scriptures
that have found a living place in the culture bear a powerful witness.

As is often the case with Ezekiel, God uses something that has gotten
the
prophet's attention -- especially something that annoys or angers him
--
to fashion a word of prophecy about Israel's condition and destiny. In
this case, Ezekiel overhears the grumbling and cynical comments of his
fellow exiles in Babylon: "Our bones are dried up, and our hope is
lost;
we are cut off completely" (verse 11, NRSV) Ezekiel had a dual mission,
to
condemn the over-confident sinners still in Jerusalem (in, for example,
Ezekiel 4-11) and to inspire some endurance and hope among the recent
exiles in Babylon. The hope is presented, however, in very large terms
(in
contrast to Jeremiah's pragmatic advice to the same exiles in Jeremiah
29): the entire house of Israel, now seemingly so utterly dead, can
have a
new and vigorous life.

Few visible objects evoke dead-and-gone as forcefully as dried bones
lying
in a dry valley. The word of God to Ezekiel emphasizes the bleakness of
these bones, in order then to visualize the astonishing restoration to
life. Bone by bone they reconnect, sinew appears to string them
together,
flesh appears to empower them, and skin comes to protect the new body.
But
bones, flesh, and skin are not yet a living being. The essential
requirement is spirit (translated "breath" by the NRSV in verses 6-10)
--
ruah. Spirit is the vitalizing power. It makes a body a living being.
In
Israel's case, for this prophecy, the living will come back from the
dead.
An Israel slaughtered and consumed as carrion, leaving bones to litter
the
landscape, will live again. That is the power of God's spirit -- when
its
time for action comes.

Psalm 104:24-34, 35b. The Psalm selection reiterates this vital power
that
the spirit bestows on living creatures. The psalm as a whole is one of
the
more impressive hymns to God's wisdom and blessing as shown in the
created
world. Following a section praising the harmony of the vegetative and
animal world (verses 14-23), this concluding section praises the wonder
of
things in the sea, and then generalizes about the dependency of all
creatures on God's support. "When you hide your face, they are
dismayed;
when you take away their breath [ruah, wind/spirit], they die and
return
to their dust. When you send forth your spirit [ruah], they are created
[the verb of Genesis 1:1]; and you renew the face of the ground"
(verses
29-30). The spirit of God creates the spirit of living creatures --
and,
notably, also renews the face of the ground. The whole environment is
refreshed by the spirit of God.

Acts 2:1-21. The reading from Acts is, of course, the primary text for
the
Day of Pentecost. All that was prepared for in the texts about the
risen
Jesus over the last few weeks finally takes place here, and the
spirit-empowered community of witnesses is launched on its mission.

The setting of the Pentecost event emphasizes two things: that all the
disciples and believers were together in one place, and that in
Jerusalem
at that time there were Jewish people "from every nation under heaven."
The witness to the resurrection and saving power of Jesus starts from a
single unified group -- this is an essential point for the presentation
in
Acts, even though it is not historically likely. It was important to
the
second generation of Christians to trace a basic form of the gospel
message that would not differ significantly as it spread to the
communities of Syria, Asia Minor, Greece, and finally Rome. The very
gospel now preached and believed in Rome and Corinth had started in
Jerusalem on Pentecost.

The unity of the gospel message is balanced by the diversity of the
people
hearing it on Pentecost. The list of regions from which the hearers at
Pentecost came (verses 8-11) represents the extremes of the familiar
world
from India to Rome and from the Black Sea to Arabia. The religious
significance of this diversity is in the phrase "from every nation"
(verse
5). The prophets saw Israel's coming glory and restoration as a
blessing
to the nations, and these Jews represented those nations present at the
holy place when God's final truth breaks in.

The striking aspect of Pentecost, as presented here, is the language
miracle. The disciples are empowered by the Holy Spirit with "tongues
as
of fire," symbolizing the capacity to speak different languages. All
the
diverse Jewish peoples can hear the gospel spoken in their own local
languages. The actual phenomenon of "speaking in tongues," which does
not
involve foreign languages, is less important here than that this gift
of
the Spirit is the reversal of the Tower of Babylon.

The story of the Tower of Babylon in Genesis 11:1-9 describes
Promethean
days when gods and humans shared the earth and humans were capable of
nearly anything -- because they spoke a common language and could
achieve
a common mind. Consequently, they became a threat to the gods by
starting
to build a city up to heaven. To foil this human scheme, the gods
cursed
humans with the diversity of their languages; they could no longer
cooperate and unify their efforts. The disciples at Pentecost do not
eliminate the diversity of human languages, but through the Spirit they
overcome it by speaking the same truth in all languages. When the days
of
prophecy come and the Holy Spirit is poured out, the blessing of human
harmony and cooperation can be restored.

When Peter stands up to interpret for the people what has happened, he
quotes the prophecy from Joel about the prophesying in the last days.
It
is a powerful passage, with awe-inspiring hope for a new age. It
expresses
marvelously the zeal that must have fired this movement, which was so
truly charismatic -- from the Spirit -- in its early years.

John 15:26-27; 16:4b-15. The Gospel reading does not have the drama of
the
Pentecost narrative in Acts, but it is the Johannine equivalent to the
promise of the outpouring of the Spirit. The terminology is different.
In
John we hear Jesus say to the disciples, "When the Advocate comes, whom
I
will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth..." (15:26,
NRSV).

"Advocate" translates the Greek term "Paraclete" (parakletos, literally
meaning "summoned," "called to one's side"). Other translations of this
loaded term are "Comforter" (King James), "Counselor" (New
International
Version), "Paraclete," simply keeping the Greek term (New Jerusalem
Bible), and, an increasing favorite among scholars, "Helper" (New
American
Standard Bible. The Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich Greek-English Lexicon, 2nd
ed.,
says, "In our literature the active sense helper, intercessor is
suitable
in all occurrences of the word," p. 618.)

The first "truth" the Spirit will guide the disciples into is their
witness to Jesus. "You too will be witnesses, because you have been
with
me from the beginning" (15:27, New Jerusalem Bible). This divine power
will replace the presence of Jesus for the disciples and become the
source
of their witnessing to knowledge of God brought through Jesus. There is
yet more for the disciples to grasp of the meaning of Jesus' coming,
and
the role of the Spirit is to guide them guide them to it, or to infuse
them with it. "I did not tell you this from the beginning, because I
was
with you; but now I am going to the one who sent me" (16:4, NJB) -- and
you will need the help of an Advocate to carry on.

The emphasis here is on continued teaching that the disciples will
need.
Still speaking between the Last Supper and Gethsemane, Jesus says, "I
still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
When
the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth"
(16:12-13). They could not absorb during Jesus' time all that they will
need to carry their mission in the world. While John's Gospel does not
speak about the "church," the common life of the believers, guided by
the
Advocate, bears witness to Jesus' name and power to the unbelieving
world
around it.
Re: More good news [message #284158 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 00:59
Skokkie  
"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
news:eqdh82tkv4565l81vk7ms9uun1ohdgie1e [at] 4ax.com...
>............................... are getting HIV. Why am I not surprised?
>
>
Because in order to be surprised you would have to be interactive and
intelligent

No brain, No pain,
Corollary: No wise, no surprise
Re: More good news [message #284165 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 10:18
Notifier Deamon  
Post removed (X-No-Archive: yes)
Re: More good news [message #284171 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 12:42
haywood jablomie  
"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
news:maps82hlktdssi0ku92ob0rl89daldnoho [at] 4ax.com...
> "Skokkie" <Glenton [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
>>news:eqdh82tkv4565l81vk7ms9uun1ohdgie1e [at] 4ax.com...
>>>............................... are getting HIV. Why am I not surprised?
>>>
>>>
>>Because in order to be surprised you would have to be interactive and
>>intelligent
>>
>>No brain, No pain,
>>Corollary: No wise, no surprise
>
> How about showing some creativity Skokkie and instead of the lames try
> and dispute what I say using facts and logic, I want entertaining
> posts not the drivel of a ten year old hurling schoolyard insults.
> BTW Skokkie oldfruits my IQ is 130,

Yeah like Bush too, hey ?

not in the Klan, dont live in a
> trailer, not a Hillbilly,



Awwww quit joshin.

>am happily married,


How is that possible , arncha suppos' ta make your woman happy too in oredr
for it to be called happy?


>have a good group of
> friends


Thats why they laugh evevryu time you leave. They are what you call good
samaratins, who feel for you mentally challenged (and also wipe your lips
when you dribble)


>and am very comfortably off financially.

Packing groceries makes you "financially comfortable"?


> Keeping all that in mind it shoots the shit out of your standard
> canned lames.
> Right, remember in the future I require you to be more entertaining.
> IIRC you live in the now shithole of Zimbabwe, how about entertaining
> us with some stories of the niggerfuckation of the country or some
> laugh a minute stories about the prices of everyday commodities, how
> many hundred thousand Zimnog Dollars does a loaf of bread or even one
> egg cost today. How is inflation at 23% a week is affecting you. What
> you are doing to secure the future of your family in the face of the
> niggerfuckation.
> I met a young bloke from South Africa on the weekend who now lives
> here, was he glad to be away from the nigger savages.


Did he buy you dinner first ?



He was a realist
> and knows that the niggers are savage animals and that things will get
> worse and worse he also agrees that whites in South Africa and
> Zimbabwe will be slaughtered in their millions when the mass chimp out
> happens. Remember my prediction of the greatest slaughter of whites in
> the history of the world when you are dying your slow death at the
> hands of the nigger savages. It wont be a quick and clean death
> because the niggers like to torture you with a slow death, sort of
> kill you and kill you again, killing once is just not enough for
> them.You have to laugh at them though when they keep shooting and
> cutting dead bodies while prancing around, silly savages wasting so
> much time and effort trying to kill a corpse again and again.

God you are a horny devil.
Re: More good news [message #284176 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 16:35
Skokkie  
"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
news:maps82hlktdssi0ku92ob0rl89daldnoho [at] 4ax.com...
> "Skokkie" <Glenton [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
>>news:eqdh82tkv4565l81vk7ms9uun1ohdgie1e [at] 4ax.com...
>>>............................... are getting HIV. Why am I not surprised?
>>>
>>>
>>Because in order to be surprised you would have to be interactive and
>>intelligent
>>
>>No brain, No pain,
>>Corollary: No wise, no surprise
>
> How about showing some creativity Skokkie and instead of the lames try
> and dispute what I say using facts and logic, I want entertaining
> posts not the drivel of a ten year old hurling schoolyard insults.
> BTW Skokkie oldfruits my IQ is 130, not in the Klan, dont live in a
> trailer, not a Hillbilly, am happily married, have a good group of
> friends and am very comfortably off financially.
> Keeping all that in mind it shoots the shit out of your standard
> canned lames.
> Right, remember in the future I require you to be more entertaining.
> IIRC you live in the now shithole of Zimbabwe, how about entertaining
> us with some stories of the niggerfuckation of the country or some
> laugh a minute stories about the prices of everyday commodities, how
> many hundred thousand Zimnog Dollars does a loaf of bread or even one
> egg cost today. How is inflation at 23% a week is affecting you. What
> you are doing to secure the future of your family in the face of the
> niggerfuckation.
> I met a young bloke from South Africa on the weekend who now lives
> here, was he glad to be away from the nigger savages. He was a realist
> and knows that the niggers are savage animals and that things will get
> worse and worse he also agrees that whites in South Africa and
> Zimbabwe will be slaughtered in their millions when the mass chimp out
> happens. Remember my prediction of the greatest slaughter of whites in
> the history of the world when you are dying your slow death at the
> hands of the nigger savages. It wont be a quick and clean death
> because the niggers like to torture you with a slow death, sort of
> kill you and kill you again, killing once is just not enough for
> them.You have to laugh at them though when they keep shooting and
> cutting dead bodies while prancing around, silly savages wasting so
> much time and effort trying to kill a corpse again and again.

I am pleased to note that you acknowledge the average racist as a Hillbilly
with a low IQ and you must forgive me if I thought that you were one of
these, as you certainly sound like one. You must have cheated in the IQ test
that you cite.

Get the message inbreed, I am not interested in entertaining you or engaging
in discussion with you. My object is to insult you, and to do it with
schoolyard insults as anything more sophisticated would go over your head.

The language that you use in your messages is a clear indication that your
IQ is nowhere near 100 unless you have another first language.

Go to http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/dnb/92286-article.html to see a person
whose opinions were regarded with similar derision as yours.

And say hello to your uncle dad for me
Re: More good news [message #284177 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 16:37
Skokkie  
"haywood jablomie" <hjablomie [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:448e96f4$0$4127$ed362ca5 [at] nr1.newsreader.com...
>
> "Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
> news:maps82hlktdssi0ku92ob0rl89daldnoho [at] 4ax.com...
>> "Skokkie" <Glenton [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
>>>news:eqdh82tkv4565l81vk7ms9uun1ohdgie1e [at] 4ax.com...
>>>>............................... are getting HIV. Why am I not surprised?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Because in order to be surprised you would have to be interactive and
>>>intelligent
>>>
>>>No brain, No pain,
>>>Corollary: No wise, no surprise
>>
>> How about showing some creativity Skokkie and instead of the lames try
>> and dispute what I say using facts and logic, I want entertaining
>> posts not the drivel of a ten year old hurling schoolyard insults.
>> BTW Skokkie oldfruits my IQ is 130,
>
> Yeah like Bush too, hey ?
>
> not in the Klan, dont live in a
>> trailer, not a Hillbilly,
>
>
>
> Awwww quit joshin.
>
>>am happily married,
>
>
> How is that possible , arncha suppos' ta make your woman happy too in
> oredr for it to be called happy?

Nah he is still married because it is impossible to divorce a sister or
cousin!
Re: More good news [message #284186 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 19:37
notin  
In article <e6krj2$54$1 [at] ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Glenton [at] hotmail.com says...
>
>
>"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
>news:eqdh82tkv4565l81vk7ms9uun1ohdgie1e [at] 4ax.com...
>>............................... are getting HIV. Why am I not surprised?
>>
>>
>Because in order to be surprised you would have to be interactive and
>intelligent
>
>No brain, No pain,
>Corollary: No wise, no surprise
>
>


I love you. The Art of Love is simple. The Art of Love is giving
yourself to someone completely. Laying down your life without any
second thoughts, that's what Love is. It's forever giving and never
expecting anything in return. Love is something beyond the self. Love
cannot be contained. Love flows like a rushing River. Love is the
beginning of Birth. Love and the makings of Love is not of the Flesh.

It is the Creation of the Creator. For the Creator is Pure Love. Love
helps you grow. Love makes you strong. Love makes you wise. Love brings
you closer to Jehovah, to Jesus Christ, to the Holy Spirit. Love is
what every Christian should strive for, the Love of Christ, the Love of
the Holy Spirit, the Love of the Father, Jehovah. Your God is not
complex. Your God is simple. Simply Love. That's not hard to
comprehend. You have to forget the self.

I know many People could never comprehend such a statement and yet it's
so simple. Everyone has it. Everyone can use it. Everyone needs it. But
if you don't practice your Love towards your fellow man, even on the
little things, your Spirit will never be fulfilled. You will always be
lacking. It will always have that craving of Dissatisfaction because
what you give out, in the form of Love, you need to have filled in your
Spirit.

You reach out for My Son Jesus Christ out of Love and He'll reach out
for you, out of Love. He reaches for you without you even knowing it. I
reach out for you. The Holy Spirit reaches out for you. We all have our
Arms open. We want to hold you. We want to touch you. We want to Love
you. We want to take care of you. We want to protect you, all out of
that one Word, Love.

But you have a choice to Love Us or not. The Word is basically simple,
but man has made such a complex meaning of so many different words that
are basically simple. For if you want to go to Heaven, you have to know
how to Love and not expect anything in return. Do it because you want
to, because Christ Loved you. He died for you because He Loved Me. He
died for you. I sent My Son to die for you because I Loved you.

I am talking to you now because I Love you. I want you to hear and
understand the Love that's on My Lips. For if anything will save you,
it will be the Love that grows in your Heart, that communicates with
Me. It's not what Man tells you, Pastors, Theologians, Politicians. You
have so many labels and titles but that's not important.

The most important thing is that you Love Me above everything else. And
you'll be okay through all the trials and tribulations, through the ups
and downs of this World. For I will never forsake you if you Love Me
and I Love you. We will Create this unbreakable bond that nothing in
the Universe can break. For even if you ran away I will not let you go
because I Love you. Because I know that you will come back. Because you
Love Me.

My Children, it's simple. It is so simple. Love your Father in Heaven,
the Creator of Heaven and Earth, with My Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
and the Holy Spirit. That's all I ever asked of Adam and Eve, just to
Love Me and I'd Love them back, but since the fall, since the fall of
the Garden of Eden, everything has been mixed up, turned upside down by
your Arch enemy the devil. But I am building My New Eden, My New
Heaven, My New World and I am starting over fresh, clean. It's right
around the corner.

I hope you listen to Me with an open Heart because it's so close. It is
so close. It would scare you if you knew the date. But it comes down to
the basic Word that was used in the Garden of Eden. "Love." That Word
is going to be reestablished just like the Garden, in many years
passed, when your Parents forsake Me, but listen, it doesn't mean it's
over. It just means that We are approaching a New Level, a New World, a
New Garden.

Prepare your Hearts and climb onto the Ark. Remember Noah. He Loved Me
and I Loved him. The day of Noah is here once again. Remember I Love
you. That's all. That is important. Never forsake your Father, your
King of Kings, your Lord of Lords, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the
Enforcer of My Law. Through the Power of the Holy Spirit I am going to
bring you home very soon. Very soon. I Love you, never forget that.
Jehovah Loves you. Your God forever.
Re: More good news [message #284189 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 20:53
Skokkie  
Great cut and paste work, now read it


"Mastic" <notin [at] african.ng> wrote in message
news:27idnfnKrst6ahPZnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d [at] pipex.net...
> In article <e6krj2$54$1 [at] ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Glenton [at] hotmail.com says...
>>
>>
>>"Mastic" <not [at] thisaddress> wrote in message
>>news:eqdh82tkv4565l81vk7ms9uun1ohdgie1e [at] 4ax.com...
>>>............................... are getting HIV. Why am I not surprised?
>>>
>>>
>>Because in order to be surprised you would have to be interactive and
>>intelligent
>>
>>No brain, No pain,
>>Corollary: No wise, no surprise
>>
>>
>
>
> I love you. The Art of Love is simple. The Art of Love is giving
> yourself to someone completely. Laying down your life without any
> second thoughts, that's what Love is. It's forever giving and never
> expecting anything in return. Love is something beyond the self. Love
> cannot be contained. Love flows like a rushing River. Love is the
> beginning of Birth. Love and the makings of Love is not of the Flesh.
>
> It is the Creation of the Creator. For the Creator is Pure Love. Love
> helps you grow. Love makes you strong. Love makes you wise. Love brings
> you closer to Jehovah, to Jesus Christ, to the Holy Spirit. Love is
> what every Christian should strive for, the Love of Christ, the Love of
> the Holy Spirit, the Love of the Father, Jehovah. Your God is not
> complex. Your God is simple. Simply Love. That's not hard to
> comprehend. You have to forget the self.
>
> I know many People could never comprehend such a statement and yet it's
> so simple. Everyone has it. Everyone can use it. Everyone needs it. But
> if you don't practice your Love towards your fellow man, even on the
> little things, your Spirit will never be fulfilled. You will always be
> lacking. It will always have that craving of Dissatisfaction because
> what you give out, in the form of Love, you need to have filled in your
> Spirit.
>
> You reach out for My Son Jesus Christ out of Love and He'll reach out
> for you, out of Love. He reaches for you without you even knowing it. I
> reach out for you. The Holy Spirit reaches out for you. We all have our
> Arms open. We want to hold you. We want to touch you. We want to Love
> you. We want to take care of you. We want to protect you, all out of
> that one Word, Love.
>
> But you have a choice to Love Us or not. The Word is basically simple,
> but man has made such a complex meaning of so many different words that
> are basically simple. For if you want to go to Heaven, you have to know
> how to Love and not expect anything in return. Do it because you want
> to, because Christ Loved you. He died for you because He Loved Me. He
> died for you. I sent My Son to die for you because I Loved you.
>
> I am talking to you now because I Love you. I want you to hear and
> understand the Love that's on My Lips. For if anything will save you,
> it will be the Love that grows in your Heart, that communicates with
> Me. It's not what Man tells you, Pastors, Theologians, Politicians. You
> have so many labels and titles but that's not important.
>
> The most important thing is that you Love Me above everything else. And
> you'll be okay through all the trials and tribulations, through the ups
> and downs of this World. For I will never forsake you if you Love Me
> and I Love you. We will Create this unbreakable bond that nothing in
> the Universe can break. For even if you ran away I will not let you go
> because I Love you. Because I know that you will come back. Because you
> Love Me.
>
> My Children, it's simple. It is so simple. Love your Father in Heaven,
> the Creator of Heaven and Earth, with My Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
> and the Holy Spirit. That's all I ever asked of Adam and Eve, just to
> Love Me and I'd Love them back, but since the fall, since the fall of
> the Garden of Eden, everything has been mixed up, turned upside down by
> your Arch enemy the devil. But I am building My New Eden, My New
> Heaven, My New World and I am starting over fresh, clean. It's right
> around the corner.
>
> I hope you listen to Me with an open Heart because it's so close. It is
> so close. It would scare you if you knew the date. But it comes down to
> the basic Word that was used in the Garden of Eden. "Love." That Word
> is going to be reestablished just like the Garden, in many years
> passed, when your Parents forsake Me, but listen, it doesn't mean it's
> over. It just means that We are approaching a New Level, a New World, a
> New Garden.
>
> Prepare your Hearts and climb onto the Ark. Remember Noah. He Loved Me
> and I Loved him. The day of Noah is here once again. Remember I Love
> you. That's all. That is important. Never forsake your Father, your
> King of Kings, your Lord of Lords, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the
> Enforcer of My Law. Through the Power of the Holy Spirit I am going to
> bring you home very soon. Very soon. I Love you, never forget that.
> Jehovah Loves you. Your God forever.
>
Re: More good news [message #284264 ] Do, 15 Juni 2006 15:06
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: More good news [message #284281 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 02:24
notin  
Your friend Mastic

BTW, The name Azazel originally means "Strong God" (Carus, Chap. 6).
When humans expiate to Lord, both the offerings must be given to
Him, while Azazel who took sins also took the offering. Perhaps
Azazel was taking sins for Israelites in front of Lord, so Azazel
is like a lawyer while Lord is sharply considered an accusor.
Behemoth also showed another face of God. In pantheonic mythology of
Isrealites before the form of Judaism, God called himself Ganesa when He
married to Anat. Anat was the Canaanite goddess who ruled Palestine and Egypt,
while Ganesa was a Hindu god of wealth who had a head of an elephant. This
figure was called Behemoth by ancient Israelite mercenaries on Elephantine
Island in the upper Egypt, and the island was the center of Knum
worship. So this form of Set-YHWH was considered the Father's
figure, then He was later conncected to Set who had hippopotamus
as one of his avatar forms.
Freely available [message #284304 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 22:16
notin  
Your friend Mastic

A few digital BOOKS are available FREE OF CHARGE from the following
site:

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The eBooks deal with:

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What is courage ?, etc.
It's on again... [message #284305 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 22:19
notin  
Its on again - a new session for the Online Meditation Class. Session 4 begins
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1000
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and
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Re: Freely available [message #284307 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 23:25
Peter  
Mastic wrote:
> Your friend Mastic
>
> A few digital BOOKS are available FREE OF CHARGE from the following
> site:
>
Why encourage trolls? Why encourage bullshit?

I can only imagine that you think it good for the flowers..
Significance of myths [message #284341 ] So, 18 Juni 2006 14:54
Bob  
For the purpose of this post, a myth is an old story involving
supernatural beings and events that supposedly explains natural and
social phenomena in the human world, and was widely believed at the
time of its first telling.

Can a myth, even if it is now understood by many to be a fiction,
constitute an underpinning for morals?

If anyone wants to offer me a different definition of myth, I'll be
happy to consider it. But note that the sloppy use of the word
"myth" to mean simply "fiction" is irrelevant to my interests.
Re: Significance of myths [message #284343 ] So, 18 Juni 2006 17:57
Steve Hayes  
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:54:08 -0500, bob [at] six.ng (bob) wrote:

>For the purpose of this post, a myth is an old story involving
>supernatural beings and events that supposedly explains natural and
>social phenomena in the human world, and was widely believed at the
>time of its first telling.
>
>Can a myth, even if it is now understood by many to be a fiction,
>constitute an underpinning for morals?
>
>If anyone wants to offer me a different definition of myth, I'll be
>happy to consider it. But note that the sloppy use of the word
>"myth" to mean simply "fiction" is irrelevant to my interests.

..
Source: Berdyaev 1957:5.
"A naive realism is the general outlook of the greater part
of mankind. It would not be true to say that it is the general
view of the world taken by mankind in its primitive state.
That view was extrordinarily complex, it was a myth-creating
process, animism, totemism and belief in magic. But the power
of workaday prosaic experience over man inculcates and naively
realistic acceptance of the world. This visible world, this
world of the senses, this world of phenomena, as philosophers
were in due course to call it, exercises too much compulsion
upon man, it subjugates him too much to itself, for it is to
be easily possible either to harbour any doubts of its true
reality, or to rise above it."

The nature of myth.
Source: Berdyaev 1948:70.
Myth is a reality immeasurably greater than concept. It is
high time that we stopped identifying myth with invention,
with the illusions of primitive mentality, and with anything,
in fact, which is essentially opposed to reality... The
creation of myths among peoples denotes a real spiritual life,
more real indeed than that of abstract concepts and rational
thought. Myth is always concrete and expresses life better
than abstract thought can do; its nature is bound up with that
of symbol. Myth is the concrete recital of events and original
phenomena of the spiritual life symbolized in the natural
world, which has engraved itself on the language memory and
creative energy of the people... it brings two worlds together
symbolically.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Re: It's on again... [message #284345 ] Sa, 17 Juni 2006 17:23
Robert Kay  
"Mastic" <notin [at] african.ng> wrote in message
news:0bidnU7556Wljw7ZRVnyiA [at] pipex.net...
> Its on again - a new session for the Online Meditation Class. Session 4
begins
> 1 October 2005. You can enrol now. This is a free community service.
Over
> 1000
> people have benefitted already.

Oh goodie goodie gumdrops. Now if you let me know how I can transport myself
back to last year October, I might consider signing on.
Re: Significance of myths [message #284364 ] Mo, 19 Juni 2006 11:30
Ferdi Greyling  
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:54:08 -0500, bob [at] six.ng (bob) wrote:

<<>For the purpose of this post, a myth is an old story involving
>supernatural beings and events that supposedly explains natural and
>social phenomena in the human world, and was widely believed at the
>time of its first telling.
>
>Can a myth, even if it is now understood by many to be a fiction,
>constitute an underpinning for morals?
>
>If anyone wants to offer me a different definition of myth, I'll be
>happy to consider it. But note that the sloppy use of the word
>"myth" to mean simply "fiction" is irrelevant to my interests.>>

Agree. But the world uses the word in that wrong way and one has to
adjust to that. That means always explaining when you use the word in
the correct way - The use of fiction to illustrate a profound truth.
Re: Significance of myths [message #284365 ] Mo, 19 Juni 2006 12:15
Rahasya  
bob <bob [at] six.ng> wrote:

> For the purpose of this post, a myth is an old story involving
> supernatural beings and events that supposedly explains natural and
> social phenomena in the human world, and was widely believed at the
> time of its first telling.
>
> Can a myth, even if it is now understood by many to be a fiction,
> constitute an underpinning for morals?
>
> If anyone wants to offer me a different definition of myth, I'll be
> happy to consider it. But note that the sloppy use of the word
> "myth" to mean simply "fiction" is irrelevant to my interests.
>

Not an alt.definition, but some observations...

I think a myth is something often not believed as widely at the time, and
gets believed later on, after much repetition, and is probably the basis of
most religions, especially the mind-control-cult type that insist on
"belief" in their stories, as in "Faith is believing what you know ain't
true" - Mark twain referring to the biggest, most successful
mind-control-cult.

Often a myth is just a repetition of some earlier myth, like Jesus' 3 days
dead in the cave derives from the Mithras myth, or turning water into wine,
from the Baccus/Dionysius myth.

Sometimes they cross the line from essentially religious stories into the
political arena, and are believed as "real" - not a myth, like William Tell
and the apple - although Gessler might have really forced him, replaying the
identical legendary event from the Norse myth of Halfdan.

Especially in the religious context, myths are often stories which contain
significant spiritual truths, thereby giving religions some of their massive
"pulling power". Of course, once one buys into the religion, things get
murky.

It's going to be very tricky to distinguish myths from traditional religious
stories, folk tales and ledgends... good luck!
Re: Significance of myths [message #284375 ] Mo, 19 Juni 2006 22:49
Kia-Ed  
bob [at] six.ng (bob) wrote:

> If anyone wants to offer me a different definition of myth, I'll be
> happy to consider it. But note that the sloppy use of the word
> "myth" to mean simply "fiction" is irrelevant to my interests.


A Myth is an unmarried Mythis.
Re: Significance of myths [message #284471 ] Fr, 23 Juni 2006 14:24
roger_pearse  
Rahasya wrote:

> bob <bob [at] six.ng> wrote:
>
> > For the purpose of this post, a myth is an old story involving
> > supernatural beings and events that supposedly explains natural and
> > social phenomena in the human world, and was widely believed at the
> > time of its first telling.
>
> Often a myth is just a repetition of some earlier myth, like Jesus' 3 days
> dead in the cave derives from the Mithras myth,

You might like to know that no such event is to be found in any ancient
account of Mithras, tho, contrary to much hearsay online.

http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras

All the best,

Roger Pearse
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