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Miscellaneous / Verschiedenes » alt.fan.james-bond » Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising.

Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising. [message #283718]

So, 11 Juni 2006 05:03

Draugnar

I was watching some rot on TV last night and saw an add for the DVD release
of the TV series "Wild Wild West". They advertised it as "Before there was
James Bond, there was Jim West" or something to that effect. Odd how WWW
came out in 1965 and EON had already made two movies by then, not to mention
the fact that Fleming had been writing the character for more than a decade
and Bond had even appeared on TV in the previous decade.

Isn't there some law about making false statements in advertising? I sure
hope EON sees this and sues them into oblivion... The unmitigated gall.
Trying to make people think THEIR product was the original.

Draugnar

Re: Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising. [message #283721 ]

So, 11 Juni 2006 05:37

Mike Feeney

Draugnar wrote:
> I was watching some rot on TV last night and saw an add for the DVD release
> of the TV series "Wild Wild West". They advertised it as "Before there was
> James Bond, there was Jim West" or something to that effect. Odd how WWW
> came out in 1965 and EON had already made two movies by then, not to mention
> the fact that Fleming had been writing the character for more than a decade
> and Bond had even appeared on TV in the previous decade.
>
> Isn't there some law about making false statements in advertising? I sure
> hope EON sees this and sues them into oblivion... The unmitigated gall.
> Trying to make people think THEIR product was the original.
>
> Draugnar

I think what they mean is that James West was doing spy-type work in
the 1860's (approximately) whereas James Bond was doing it in the
1960's.... so this means that, yes, James West was doing this type of
thing about 100 years *before* James Bond was.

Mike

Re: Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising. [message #283728 ]

So, 11 Juni 2006 14:46

Tom Zielinski

"Mike Feeney" <stromberg77 [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1149997025.537954.161220 [at] m38g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Draugnar wrote:
>> I was watching some rot on TV last night and saw an add for the DVD
>> release
>> of the TV series "Wild Wild West". They advertised it as "Before there
>> was
>> James Bond, there was Jim West" or something to that effect. Odd how WWW
>> came out in 1965 and EON had already made two movies by then, not to
>> mention
>> the fact that Fleming had been writing the character for more than a
>> decade
>> and Bond had even appeared on TV in the previous decade.
>>
>> Isn't there some law about making false statements in advertising? I
>> sure
>> hope EON sees this and sues them into oblivion... The unmitigated gall.
>> Trying to make people think THEIR product was the original.
>>
>> Draugnar
>
>
> I think what they mean is that James West was doing spy-type work in
> the 1860's (approximately) whereas James Bond was doing it in the
> 1960's.... so this means that, yes, James West was doing this type of
> thing about 100 years *before* James Bond was.

Also it's such hyperbole that it really has no meaning. I understand the
point, but it's really a compliment to the Bond brand name. Further, I
can't conceive of anyone being effected by such an ad to say "Screw James
Bond, he came out after WWW, what an asshole."

Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that "Ron Ely, The Man of Bronze" was easily the worst Bond wannabe film..."

Re: Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising. [message #283730 ]

So, 11 Juni 2006 15:01

Mac

Tom Zielinski wrote:

> Tom Zielinski
> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to
> slay this particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing
> a Morlands' three ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As
> he waited for the delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on
> his lungs, he reflected that "Ron Ely, The Man of Bronze" was easily
> the worst Bond wannabe film..."

Hold up there, nice gemmen! That there "Man of Bronze" was around
before James West and James Bond. Doc Savage began in 1933 and
the film is an adaptation, of sorts, of the first novel.

Not a great adaptation, mind...

Latest actor linked with a possible big screen return for the Doc
is Dwayne Johnson.
--
-- Mac

"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
of a philistine on Usenet."

Re: Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising. [message #283734 ]

So, 11 Juni 2006 15:21

Tom Zielinski

"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4f2ii1F1gm4s3U1 [at] individual.net...
> Tom Zielinski wrote:
>
>> Tom Zielinski
>> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to
>> slay this particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing
>> a Morlands' three ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As
>> he waited for the delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on
>> his lungs, he reflected that "Ron Ely, The Man of Bronze" was easily
>> the worst Bond wannabe film..."
>
> Hold up there, nice gemmen! That there "Man of Bronze" was around
> before James West and James Bond. Doc Savage began in 1933 and
> the film is an adaptation, of sorts, of the first novel.

Granted, though I was referring to and should have specifically noted the
1975 Ron Ely film complete with tag-line "Bigger than Bond!", or some such
copy.

Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that he was going to Philly in September..."

Re: Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising. [message #283745 ]

So, 11 Juni 2006 18:26

Draugnar

OK, so I should have somehow reflected with a grin. Of course, I hadn't
thought of "Before there was James Bond" being a reference to Jim West being
a 19th Century gunslinger for the US Secret Service while 007 is a modern
(20th and now 21st Century) gunslinger for Her Majesty's Secret Service.

"Tom Zielinski" <rtomz [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:UJKdneippKz9hxHZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
>
> "Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
> news:4f2ii1F1gm4s3U1 [at] individual.net...
>> Tom Zielinski wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Zielinski
>>> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to
>>> slay this particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing
>>> a Morlands' three ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As
>>> he waited for the delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on
>>> his lungs, he reflected that "Ron Ely, The Man of Bronze" was easily
>>> the worst Bond wannabe film..."
>>
>> Hold up there, nice gemmen! That there "Man of Bronze" was around
>> before James West and James Bond. Doc Savage began in 1933 and
>> the film is an adaptation, of sorts, of the first novel.
>
>
>
> Granted, though I was referring to and should have specifically noted the
> 1975 Ron Ely film complete with tag-line "Bigger than Bond!", or some such
> copy.
>
>
>
>
> Tom Zielinski
> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay
> this
> particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands'
> three
> ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
> delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
> that he was going to Philly in September..."
>
>

Re: Interesting, if false and misleading, advertising. [message #283757 ]

Mo, 12 Juni 2006 12:28

Hazmat

"Draugnar" <draugnar [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:128oh5d7dd0a97b [at] corp.supernews.com...
> OK, so I should have somehow reflected with a grin. Of course, I hadn't
> thought of "Before there was James Bond" being a reference to Jim West
> being a 19th Century gunslinger for the US Secret Service while 007 is a
> modern (20th and now 21st Century) gunslinger for Her Majesty's Secret
> Service.

"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he wondered
again why Walter Gibson chose the pseudonym "Maxwell Grant". Bond picked his
vintage "The Shadow" magazine up and continued reading...

>
> "Tom Zielinski" <rtomz [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:UJKdneippKz9hxHZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
>>
>> "Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
>> news:4f2ii1F1gm4s3U1 [at] individual.net...
>>> Tom Zielinski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom Zielinski
>>>> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to
>>>> slay this particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing
>>>> a Morlands' three ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As
>>>> he waited for the delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on
>>>> his lungs, he reflected that "Ron Ely, The Man of Bronze" was easily
>>>> the worst Bond wannabe film..."
>>>
>>> Hold up there, nice gemmen! That there "Man of Bronze" was around
>>> before James West and James Bond. Doc Savage began in 1933 and
>>> the film is an adaptation, of sorts, of the first novel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Granted, though I was referring to and should have specifically noted the
>> 1975 Ron Ely film complete with tag-line "Bigger than Bond!", or some
>> such copy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Zielinski
>> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay
>> this
>> particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands'
>> three
>> ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
>> delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
>> that he was going to Philly in September..."
>>
>>
>
>

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