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Miscellaneous / Verschiedenes » alt.fan.james-bond » Idle Thoughts....
| Idle Thoughts.... [message #283685] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 08:07 |
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Hey all,
Like all of you, I've a passion for things Bond, but over the past few
years I've found it waning. I'm not sure why, but I think it has
something to do with Brosnan.
Now I loved all the Brosnan films, (even TND) bought the soundtracks
and listened to them while counting down the weeks to each opening. I
saw each film on opening night, and then several times again in
theatre, bought them on video and DVD the day they came out.
But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's films
are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this the other
night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger, Diamonds Are
Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I couldn't tell
you the last time I watched one of the more recent ones. Any of you
have the same reaction?
There are so many scenes I love in the Brosnan oeuvre, like the "I
never miss" scene or the hotel room homage in DAD, but all in all, the
films seem overly formulaic, always bigger, louder, more outlandish.
That's fine, that's what Bond is about, in part, but I think that the
splicing together of the requiste car chase, bad girl, Bond girl,
super-villian, henchman, exotic locales, etc, does not necessarily a
good Bond film make.
I know the whole Craig as Bond is a contentious issue for some, but I'm
glad to see it, primarily because it will give the producers an
opportunity to pare down what the Brosnan Bond films evolved into, and
give us a chance to see something fresh.
Rambling I know. Apologies.
Comments?
Cheers,
James
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283686 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 13:19 |
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James Calhoun wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Like all of you, I've a passion for things Bond, but over the past few
> years I've found it waning. I'm not sure why, but I think it has
> something to do with Brosnan.
>
> Now I loved all the Brosnan films, (even TND) bought the soundtracks
> and listened to them while counting down the weeks to each opening. I
> saw each film on opening night, and then several times again in
> theatre, bought them on video and DVD the day they came out.
>
> But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's films
> are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this the other
> night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger, Diamonds Are
> Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I couldn't tell
> you the last time I watched one of the more recent ones. Any of you
> have the same reaction?
>
> There are so many scenes I love in the Brosnan oeuvre, like the "I
> never miss" scene or the hotel room homage in DAD, but all in all, the
> films seem overly formulaic, always bigger, louder, more outlandish.
> That's fine, that's what Bond is about, in part, but I think that the
> splicing together of the requiste car chase, bad girl, Bond girl,
> super-villian, henchman, exotic locales, etc, does not necessarily a
> good Bond film make.
>
> I know the whole Craig as Bond is a contentious issue for some, but I'm
> glad to see it, primarily because it will give the producers an
> opportunity to pare down what the Brosnan Bond films evolved into, and
> give us a chance to see something fresh.
>
> Rambling I know. Apologies.
>
> Comments?
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
The fault with the Brosnan Bond films is not with the actor but with the
way that they were produced. The recent films started out well but then
everything including the kitchen sink was thrown in in order to out do
the other non-Bond action films that were being released.
The only Bond film to break the mold was OHMSS but that was not well
received at the box office so it was back to the same routine.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283688 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 14:19 |
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James Calhoun wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Like all of you, I've a passion for things Bond, but over the past few
> years I've found it waning. I'm not sure why, but I think it has
> something to do with Brosnan.
>
> Now I loved all the Brosnan films, (even TND) bought the soundtracks
> and listened to them while counting down the weeks to each opening. I
> saw each film on opening night, and then several times again in
> theatre, bought them on video and DVD the day they came out.
>
> But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's
> films are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this
> the other night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger,
> Diamonds Are Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I
> couldn't tell you the last time I watched one of the more recent
> ones. Any of you have the same reaction?
>
> There are so many scenes I love in the Brosnan oeuvre, like the "I
> never miss" scene or the hotel room homage in DAD, but all in all, the
> films seem overly formulaic, always bigger, louder, more outlandish.
> That's fine, that's what Bond is about, in part, but I think that the
> splicing together of the requiste car chase, bad girl, Bond girl,
> super-villian, henchman, exotic locales, etc, does not necessarily a
> good Bond film make.
>
> I know the whole Craig as Bond is a contentious issue for some, but
> I'm glad to see it, primarily because it will give the producers an
> opportunity to pare down what the Brosnan Bond films evolved into, and
> give us a chance to see something fresh.
>
> Rambling I know. Apologies.
>
> Comments?
I think time plays a considerable part. A few years down the line, with a
different perspective, we will be re-watching and possibly re-evaluating
(for better or worse) the Brosnan Bonds.
At the moment, the Brosnan films are the ones we've all been (over?)exposed
to. We've discussed and monitored their production, patiently waited for
premieres and posted reviews. There's a freshness in memory and an
over-familiarity with the recent efforts that doesn't exist with the older
films.
With the benefit of hindsight, we may find DIE ANOTHER DAY is perhaps
no more outlandish or formulaic than YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE or MOONRAKER,
or THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH is perhaps a closer cousin to FROM RUSSIA
WITH LOVE and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than first thought.
Time.
--
-- Mac
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283690 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 15:42 |
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Mac wrote:
> James Calhoun wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Like all of you, I've a passion for things Bond, but over the past few
>> years I've found it waning. I'm not sure why, but I think it has
>> something to do with Brosnan.
>>
>> Now I loved all the Brosnan films, (even TND) bought the soundtracks
>> and listened to them while counting down the weeks to each opening. I
>> saw each film on opening night, and then several times again in
>> theatre, bought them on video and DVD the day they came out.
>>
>> But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's
>> films are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this
>> the other night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger,
>> Diamonds Are Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I
>> couldn't tell you the last time I watched one of the more recent
>> ones. Any of you have the same reaction?
>>
>> There are so many scenes I love in the Brosnan oeuvre, like the "I
>> never miss" scene or the hotel room homage in DAD, but all in all, the
>> films seem overly formulaic, always bigger, louder, more outlandish.
>> That's fine, that's what Bond is about, in part, but I think that the
>> splicing together of the requiste car chase, bad girl, Bond girl,
>> super-villian, henchman, exotic locales, etc, does not necessarily a
>> good Bond film make.
>>
>> I know the whole Craig as Bond is a contentious issue for some, but
>> I'm glad to see it, primarily because it will give the producers an
>> opportunity to pare down what the Brosnan Bond films evolved into, and
>> give us a chance to see something fresh.
>>
>> Rambling I know. Apologies.
>>
>> Comments?
>
> I think time plays a considerable part. A few years down the line, with a
> different perspective, we will be re-watching and possibly re-evaluating
> (for better or worse) the Brosnan Bonds.
>
> At the moment, the Brosnan films are the ones we've all been (over?)exposed
> to. We've discussed and monitored their production, patiently waited for
> premieres and posted reviews. There's a freshness in memory and an
> over-familiarity with the recent efforts that doesn't exist with the older
> films.
>
> With the benefit of hindsight, we may find DIE ANOTHER DAY is perhaps
> no more outlandish or formulaic than YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE or MOONRAKER,
> or THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH is perhaps a closer cousin to FROM RUSSIA
> WITH LOVE and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than first thought.
>
> Time.
"Time is the fire in which we all burn."
Name the film and who said it and you will get your coat back.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283691 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 15:57 |
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"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4evro8F1h5cs4U1 [at] individual.net...
> James Calhoun wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Like all of you, I've a passion for things Bond, but over the past few
>> years I've found it waning. I'm not sure why, but I think it has
>> something to do with Brosnan.
>>
>> Now I loved all the Brosnan films, (even TND) bought the soundtracks
>> and listened to them while counting down the weeks to each opening. I
>> saw each film on opening night, and then several times again in
>> theatre, bought them on video and DVD the day they came out.
>>
>> But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's
>> films are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this
>> the other night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger,
>> Diamonds Are Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I
>> couldn't tell you the last time I watched one of the more recent
>> ones. Any of you have the same reaction?
>>
>> There are so many scenes I love in the Brosnan oeuvre, like the "I
>> never miss" scene or the hotel room homage in DAD, but all in all, the
>> films seem overly formulaic, always bigger, louder, more outlandish.
>> That's fine, that's what Bond is about, in part, but I think that the
>> splicing together of the requiste car chase, bad girl, Bond girl,
>> super-villian, henchman, exotic locales, etc, does not necessarily a
>> good Bond film make.
>>
>> I know the whole Craig as Bond is a contentious issue for some, but
>> I'm glad to see it, primarily because it will give the producers an
>> opportunity to pare down what the Brosnan Bond films evolved into, and
>> give us a chance to see something fresh.
>>
>> Rambling I know. Apologies.
>>
>> Comments?
>
> I think time plays a considerable part. A few years down the line, with a
> different perspective, we will be re-watching and possibly re-evaluating
> (for better or worse) the Brosnan Bonds.
>
> At the moment, the Brosnan films are the ones we've all been
> (over?)exposed
> to. We've discussed and monitored their production, patiently waited for
> premieres and posted reviews. There's a freshness in memory and an
> over-familiarity with the recent efforts that doesn't exist with the older
> films.
>
> With the benefit of hindsight, we may find DIE ANOTHER DAY is perhaps
> no more outlandish or formulaic than YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE or MOONRAKER,
> or THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH is perhaps a closer cousin to FROM RUSSIA
> WITH LOVE and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than first thought.
>
> Time.
> --
> -- Mac
Thanks James for a thought-provoking post, and then of course Mac insists
upon inserting his usual spot-on perspective.
Well done, sirs.
Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that for the first time in his life he was actually watching the World Cup
and cares who wins..."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283692 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 16:02 |
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"The Shadow" <miehls [at] bright.net> wrote in message
news:I8mdncHZt5LbURfZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d [at] bright.net...
> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>
> Name the film and who said it and you will get your coat back.
Donald Sutherland in "Backdraft."
Or perhaps a Delmore Schwartz poem.
Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that subtracting points from a country's soccer team for hooliganism is a
stiff penalty..."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283693 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 16:27 |
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Tom Zielinski wrote:
> "The Shadow" <miehls [at] bright.net> wrote in message
> news:I8mdncHZt5LbURfZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d [at] bright.net...
>
>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>>
>> Name the film and who said it and you will get your coat back.
>
>
>
> Donald Sutherland in "Backdraft."
>
> Or perhaps a Delmore Schwartz poem.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Zielinski
> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
> particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
> ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
> delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
> that subtracting points from a country's soccer team for hooliganism is a
> stiff penalty..."
Wrong on both, hand over the title to your car.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283696 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 17:05 |
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The Shadow wrote:
> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>
> Name the film and who said it and you will get your coat back.
By a massive coincidence I picked up the SE of this, FIRST CONTACT
and INSURRECTION for £5 each this week! It's said in STAR TREK
GENERATIONS. I'm sure it's a quote from somewhere else.
--
-- Mac
"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
of a lacklustre England second-half performance."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283697 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 17:06 |
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Tom Zielinski wrote:
> Tom Zielinski
> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to
> slay this particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing
> a Morlands' three ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As
> he waited for the delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on
> his lungs, he reflected that for the first time in his life he was
> actually watching the World Cup and cares who wins..."
BEST GAME. EVER.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283700 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 18:16 |
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Mac wrote:
> The Shadow wrote:
>
>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>>
>> Name the film and who said it and you will get your coat back.
>
> By a massive coincidence I picked up the SE of this, FIRST CONTACT
> and INSURRECTION for £5 each this week! It's said in STAR TREK
> GENERATIONS. I'm sure it's a quote from somewhere else.
Will send your coat via UPS.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283701 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 18:19 |
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Mac wrote:
> Tom Zielinski wrote:
>
>> Tom Zielinski
>> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to
>> slay this particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing
>> a Morlands' three ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As
>> he waited for the delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on
>> his lungs, he reflected that for the first time in his life he was
>> actually watching the World Cup and cares who wins..."
>
> BEST GAME. EVER.
http://www.ron-c.com/2004week12.html
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283702 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 19:25 |
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"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4evro8F1h5cs4U1 [at] individual.net...
> James Calhoun wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Like all of you, I've a passion for things Bond, but over the past few
>> years I've found it waning. I'm not sure why, but I think it has
>> something to do with Brosnan.
>>
>> Now I loved all the Brosnan films, (even TND) bought the soundtracks
>> and listened to them while counting down the weeks to each opening. I
>> saw each film on opening night, and then several times again in
>> theatre, bought them on video and DVD the day they came out.
>>
>> But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's
>> films are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this
>> the other night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger,
>> Diamonds Are Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I
>> couldn't tell you the last time I watched one of the more recent
>> ones. Any of you have the same reaction?
>>
>> There are so many scenes I love in the Brosnan oeuvre, like the "I
>> never miss" scene or the hotel room homage in DAD, but all in all, the
>> films seem overly formulaic, always bigger, louder, more outlandish.
>> That's fine, that's what Bond is about, in part, but I think that the
>> splicing together of the requiste car chase, bad girl, Bond girl,
>> super-villian, henchman, exotic locales, etc, does not necessarily a
>> good Bond film make.
>>
>> I know the whole Craig as Bond is a contentious issue for some, but
>> I'm glad to see it, primarily because it will give the producers an
>> opportunity to pare down what the Brosnan Bond films evolved into, and
>> give us a chance to see something fresh.
>>
>> Rambling I know. Apologies.
>>
>> Comments?
>
> I think time plays a considerable part. A few years down the line, with a
> different perspective, we will be re-watching and possibly re-evaluating
> (for better or worse) the Brosnan Bonds.
>
> At the moment, the Brosnan films are the ones we've all been
> (over?)exposed
> to. We've discussed and monitored their production, patiently waited for
> premieres and posted reviews. There's a freshness in memory and an
> over-familiarity with the recent efforts that doesn't exist with the older
> films.
>
> With the benefit of hindsight, we may find DIE ANOTHER DAY is perhaps
> no more outlandish or formulaic than YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE or MOONRAKER,
> or THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH is perhaps a closer cousin to FROM RUSSIA
> WITH LOVE and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than first thought.
>
> Time.
> --
Time can do nothing about the appearance of Denise Richards; only an editor
can do something about that ;-)
> -- Mac
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283703 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 21:17 |
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The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>"Time is the fire in which we all burn."
Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283704 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 22:06 |
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Rich Handley wrote:
> The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>
> Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
Dr. Soran. STAR TREK GENERATIONS
--
-- Mac
"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
of an anal film fan on Usenet."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283705 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 22:29 |
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"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4f0n3nF1ge2glU1 [at] individual.net...
> Rich Handley wrote:
>
>> The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>>
>> Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
>
> Dr. Soran. STAR TREK GENERATIONS
Delmore Schwartz (1937)
Calmly we walk through this April's day,
Metropolitan poetry here and there,
In the park sit pauper and rentier,
The screaming children, the motor-car
Fugitive about us, running away,
Between the worker and the millionaire
Number provides all distances,
It is Nineteen Thirty-Seven now,
Many great dears are taken away,
What will become of you and me
(This is the school in which we learn...)
Besides the photo and the memory?
(...that time is the fire in which we all burn.)Philistines.;)
> "James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
> of an anal film fan on Usenet."
Just film?
;)
Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that the US is up on Monday..."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283706 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 22:55 |
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Should read:
> Delmore Schwartz (1937)
>
> Calmly we walk through this April's day,
> Metropolitan poetry here and there,
> In the park sit pauper and rentier,
> The screaming children, the motor-car
> Fugitive about us, running away,
> Between the worker and the millionaire
> Number provides all distances,
> It is Nineteen Thirty-Seven now,
> Many great dears are taken away,
> What will become of you and me
> (This is the school in which we learn...)
> Besides the photo and the memory?
> (...that time is the fire in which we all burn.)
Philistines. ;)
Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that the prospect of Albert Pujols using HG has obliterated the tiny
remaining shred of dignity that MLB had left..."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283714 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 02:28 |
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James, then Mac wrote:
> > But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's
> > films are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this
> > the other night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger,
> > Diamonds Are Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I
> > couldn't tell you the last time I watched one of the more recent
> > ones. Any of you have the same reaction?
>
> At the moment, the Brosnan films are the ones we've all been (over?)exposed
> to. We've discussed and monitored their production, patiently waited for
> premieres and posted reviews. There's a freshness in memory and an
> over-familiarity with the recent efforts that doesn't exist with the older
> films.
This ties in with Mac's comments, so forgive me for repetition of his
ideas, but, like he said, one thing which strikes me is that at the
time those earlier films came out, you knew less about them, you'd seen
less of them, and there was a sense of occasion about seeing them in
the cinema, or even on TV, which has been all but lost now. Bond
movies now are so heavily trailed, excerpted, previewed, and
pre-reviewed that by the time they reach the screen it's hard to
believe that you've not seen them already: especially in the age of the
net, it's hard for a fan not to reach saturation point even by the time
the movie's released. Twenty years ago, you saw a poster, a trailer at
the cinema, an advance report on some film show, and that was it: you
were left hungry with anticipation. After that it took considerably
more time than it does now before the film appeared on VHS or
television.
As Mac says, I think that once I've given the Brosnan movies a few
years, once the memory of the hype has died down, and once I feel I can
judge them more a little more objectively, and I think I'll be inclined
to watch them more frequently. It's certainly true in my case that I
find GE a hell of a lot easier to rate and judge within the Bond canon
than DAD.
> With the benefit of hindsight, we may find DIE ANOTHER DAY is perhaps
> no more outlandish or formulaic than YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE or MOONRAKER,
> or THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH is perhaps a closer cousin to FROM RUSSIA
> WITH LOVE and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than first thought.
Even leaving aside the title, TWINE seems to me to have a lot of
OMHSS's spirit about it. Incidentally, it's also one of the relatively
few Bond films which I've come to like immensely despite having thought
it pretty weak when I first saw it. It may even be my favourite of the
Brosnan movies.
Also, and this is probably only to reinforce Mac's point, I think there
are things we forgive even in the Connery movies because in the back of
our minds we say to ourselves 'it's improbable and illogical, but what
the heck, this film was made a long time ago, and movie audiences
probably would have gone along with that then, so I'll just suspend
disbelief and enjoy it for what it is'. At this stage, it's difficult
to say whether we might be able to cut the Brosnan films the same slack
in forty years' time.
Trade ya an invisible car for converting a lesbian...?
Best
Phil
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So, 11 Juni 2006 03:05 |
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Tom wrote:
> Delmore Schwartz (1937)
> (...that time is the fire in which we all burn.)
Missed the whole discussion and would have *hoped* to get in there
first - but I have to admit that I only read Schwartz because of a
teenage desire to be the next Lou Reed. Here's an easy one for the
rest of you, though:
'I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my
time.'
Source? (Points docked for the obvious answer.)
Best
Phil
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So, 11 Juni 2006 05:14 |
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Jack London's "Credo". In full, it was:
I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather that my spark should burn
out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot. I would
rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a
sleepy and permanent planet. The proper function of man is to live, not
exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them, I shall use my
time.
"phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com" <phil.gerrard1 [at] ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:1149987907.968727.12860 [at] y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> Delmore Schwartz (1937)
>> (...that time is the fire in which we all burn.)
>
> Missed the whole discussion and would have *hoped* to get in there
> first - but I have to admit that I only read Schwartz because of a
> teenage desire to be the next Lou Reed. Here's an easy one for the
> rest of you, though:
>
> 'I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my
> time.'
>
> Source? (Points docked for the obvious answer.)
>
> Best
>
> Phil
>
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283724 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 11:12 |
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Tom Zielinski wrote:
> Philistines. ;)
I'm from New Yawk. Never been to Philly.
--
-- Mac
"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
of calluses on Mike Feeney's palms after viewing INTO
THE BLUE (for the 37th time)."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283732 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 14:58 |
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"Draugnar" <draugnar [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jack London's "Credo". In full, it was:
>
> I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather that my spark should
> burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot. I
> would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow,
> than a sleepy and permanent planet. The proper function of man is to live,
> not exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them, I shall
> use my time.
Wow! Awesome. TY.
Tom
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283738 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 17:04 |
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Rich Handley wrote:
> The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>
> Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
>
I knew that you would know.
;-)
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283739 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 17:05 |
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Rich Handley wrote:
> The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>
> Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
>
Well he did say it after someone else...
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283740 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 17:05 |
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Mac wrote:
> Rich Handley wrote:
>
>> The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>> Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
>
> Dr. Soran. STAR TREK GENERATIONS
Both said it I do believe.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283742 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 17:13 |
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Mac wrote:
> Tom Zielinski wrote:
>
>> Philistines. ;)
>
> I'm from New Yawk. Never been to Philly.
There once was this girl from Philadelphia....
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283743 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 17:23 |
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"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> said:
>Rich Handley wrote:
>> The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>> Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
>Dr. Soran. STAR TREK GENERATIONS
Him, too!
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283744 ] |
So, 11 Juni 2006 17:24 |
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The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>Rich Handley wrote:
>> The Shadow <miehls [at] bright.net> said:
>>> "Time is the fire in which we all burn."
>> Picard. Star Trek: Generations.
>I knew that you would know.
Geekiness is as geekiness does.
Or something like that.
Momma always said life is like a box of Trekkies: all pimply and virginal.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283751 ] |
Mo, 12 Juni 2006 01:43 |
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Draugnar wrote:
> Jack London's "Credo". In full, it was:
>
> I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather that my spark should burn
> out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry-rot. I would
> rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a
> sleepy and permanent planet. The proper function of man is to live, not
> exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them, I shall use my
> time.
Well done!
Of course, while they're inspiring words, it may be worth remembering
that both London and Fleming died way before their time...
Best
Phil
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283756 ] |
Mo, 12 Juni 2006 11:52 |
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The Shadow wrote:
> Mac wrote:
>> Tom Zielinski wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Zielinski
>>> "...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to
>>> slay this particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing
>>> a Morlands' three ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As
>>> he waited for the delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on
>>> his lungs, he reflected that for the first time in his life he was
>>> actually watching the World Cup and cares who wins..."
>>
>> BEST GAME. EVER.
>
>
> http://www.ron-c.com/2004week12.html
BEST SONG. EVER.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQItOROYlc&search=world% 20in%20motion
--
-- Mac
"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
of 75 England world cup songs ever 4 years."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283758 ] |
Mo, 12 Juni 2006 13:14 |
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"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4f4rrqF1hmcnaU1 [at] individual.net...
>
> BEST SONG. EVER.
I beg to differ... http://www.milkandcookies.com/links/23594/details
It's awesome...
--
Regards
Tim Pollard
www.timpollard.com
A useful unit of measurement: the 'millihelen' is the amount of beauty
needed to launch one ship.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283759 ] |
Mo, 12 Juni 2006 13:18 |
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Tim Pollard wrote:
> "Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
> news:4f4rrqF1hmcnaU1 [at] individual.net...
>>
>> BEST SONG. EVER.
>
>
> I beg to differ... http://www.milkandcookies.com/links/23594/details
>
> It's awesome...
We had this a couple a weeks ago! Keep up, or I'll have to
wrist snap you like this man...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2A632F3D
--
-- Mac
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283776 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 00:55 |
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"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4f4rrqF1hmcnaU1 [at] individual.net...
> BEST SONG. EVER.
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQItOROYlc&search=world% 20in%20motion
Ack. A Rick Astley wanna-be. Song's unremarkable too.
Express *this* <grabs crotch>
;)
Ever hear the "Super Bowl Shuffle"? Now *there's* a song.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8640920961618240055
> "James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
> of 75 England world cup songs ever 4 years."
Indeed.
Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that we are the Bears, shufflin' crew..."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283778 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 01:14 |
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Tom Zielinski wrote:
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> Ever hear the "Super Bowl Shuffle"? Now *there's* a song.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8640920961618240055
Great. A Village People reunion gig....
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-- Mac
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283783 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 01:47 |
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Tom Zielinski wrote:
> Ack. A Rick Astley wanna-be. Song's unremarkable too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order
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-- Mac
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283786 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 04:00 |
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Mac wrote:
> We had this a couple a weeks ago! Keep up, or I'll have to
> wrist snap you like this man...
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2A632F3D
Just in case anybody missed the reference (and actually cares) Steven
Seagal not only snaps wrists in his movies. He famously broke the wrist
of one Sean Connery whilst working as a fight instructor on NEVER SAY
NEVER AGAIN.
--
-- Mac
"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
of mind-numbing trivia on Usenet."
If a STAR TREK fan is a Trekkie (or Trekker), what is a James Bond
fan?
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283797 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 14:07 |
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"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4f6kiuF1hl4ocU1 [at] individual.net...
> Mac wrote:
>
>> We had this a couple a weeks ago! Keep up, or I'll have to
>> wrist snap you like this man...
>>
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2A632F3D
>
> Just in case anybody missed the reference (and actually cares) Steven
> Seagal not only snaps wrists in his movies. He famously broke the wrist
> of one Sean Connery whilst working as a fight instructor on NEVER SAY
> NEVER AGAIN.
> --
> -- Mac
>
> "James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability
> of mind-numbing trivia on Usenet."
>
> If a STAR TREK fan is a Trekkie (or Trekker), what is a James Bond
> fan?
Cool and sophisticated.
Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that "Bonder" or "Bondee" are too obvious..."
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283951 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 04:07 |
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"James Calhoun" <jamesrobertcalhoun [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1149919626.588207.258480 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> Hey all,
>
> Like all of you, I've a passion for things Bond, but over the past few
> years I've found it waning. I'm not sure why, but I think it has
> something to do with Brosnan.
>
> Now I loved all the Brosnan films, (even TND) bought the soundtracks
> and listened to them while counting down the weeks to each opening. I
> saw each film on opening night, and then several times again in
> theatre, bought them on video and DVD the day they came out.
>
> But something I've noticed about my own viewing habits: Brosnan's films
> are the ones I watch least on DVD. I was thinking about this the other
> night. When I put on a film it is invariably Goldfinger, Diamonds Are
> Forever, Spy Who Loved Me, or Living Daylights. But I couldn't tell
> you the last time I watched one of the more recent ones. Any of you
> have the same reaction?
>
> There are so many scenes I love in the Brosnan oeuvre, like the "I
> never miss" scene or the hotel room homage in DAD, but all in all, the
> films seem overly formulaic, always bigger, louder, more outlandish.
> That's fine, that's what Bond is about, in part, but I think that the
> splicing together of the requiste car chase, bad girl, Bond girl,
> super-villian, henchman, exotic locales, etc, does not necessarily a
> good Bond film make.
>
> I know the whole Craig as Bond is a contentious issue for some, but I'm
> glad to see it, primarily because it will give the producers an
> opportunity to pare down what the Brosnan Bond films evolved into, and
> give us a chance to see something fresh.
>
> Rambling I know. Apologies.
>
> Comments?
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
Moods change. After all, we're pretty well reconstructed biologically every
seven years, I think.
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| Re: Idle Thoughts.... [message #283952 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 04:08 |
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"The Shadow" <miehls [at] bright.net> wrote in message
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> Mac wrote:
>> Tom Zielinski wrote:
>>
>>> Philistines. ;)
>>
>> I'm from New Yawk. Never been to Philly.
>
>
>
> There once was this girl from Philadelphia....
Rhyme it, I DARE ya!
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