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Music / Musik » alt.fan.frank-zappa » Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands
| Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283391] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 05:23 |
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Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands
Michael Senft
The Arizona Republic
Jun. 18, 2006
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/ae/articles/0618zap pa0618alumni.html
Frank Zappa's various bands were a breeding ground for talented
musicians of all genres. Here are some of the most famous players
from the dozens of Zappa alumni:
Captain Beefheart - A childhood friend of Zappa's, this eccentric
blues shouter worked with him sporadically throughout the early
'70s, adding his distinctive vocals to the classic Willie the
Pimp and teaming up with Zappa for the 1975 album Bongo Fury.
Zappa also produced Beefheart's classic Trout Mask Replica album.
The Turtles - This SoCal group had a smash in the late '60s with
Happy Together, before singers Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman, as
well as bassist Jim Pons, joined Zappa in the reformed Mothers of
Invention in 1971. The group put as much emphasis on X-rated
stand-up comedy as on music, such as the filthy Groupie Routine.
The three worked with Zappa on the strange film 200 Motels, as
well as the live albums Fillmore East - June 1971 and Just
Another Band From LA until an onstage injury caused Zappa to
disband the group. Kaylan and Volman continued to perform as Flo
and Eddie with the Mothers as their backing band throughout the
early '70s.
Missing Persons - These new-wavers scored hits with Words and
Destination Unknown in the early '80s thanks to photogenic singer
Dale Bozzio. But before becoming video stars, four members of
Missing Persons worked with Zappa in the late '70s. Bozzio played
the role of Mary in Zappa's rock opera Joe's Garage, and her
husband, Terry, is best known for his notoriously difficult drum
solo in The Black Page. After Missing Persons broke up in the mid
'80s, Terry Bozzio went on to work with Jeff Beck, bassist
Patrick O'Hearn became a New Age star and guitarist Warren
Cuccurullo joined Duran Duran.
Steve Vai - This guitar wizard played with Zappa only during the
early '80s, but he made quite a splash with fans and musicians
playing "impossible guitar parts" on such tracks as Stevie's
Spanking. After leaving Zappa's band, Vai went on to a career as
an in-demand session guitarist, serving as David Lee Roth's
guitarist in the late '80s. After a brief stint in Whitesnake,
Vai has concentrated on his solo career, still playing flashy,
Zappa-influenced guitar rock.
Little Feat - This Southern-boogie band from LA got its start
when guitarist Lowell George and bassist Roy Estrada left the
Mothers of Invention in 1970. Estrada was a founding member of
the Mothers, while George joined Zappa in 1969 for the stunning
Hot Rats. George's dirty slide playing can be heard on Willie the
Pimp.
Adrian Belew - This idiosyncratic guitarist played briefly with
Zappa in the late '70s. While on tour with Zappa, he met David
Bowie, with whom he worked on the Thin White Duke's "Berlin"
albums. Later Belew played with the Talking Heads and King Crimson.
Chester Thompson - The powerhouse drummer of Zappa's incendiary
Roxy & Elsewhere lineup of the Mothers, Thompson went on to work
with fusion pioneers Weather Report and served as the touring
drummer for prog-rock legends Genesis and Phil Collins for more
than 20 years.
George Duke and Jean-Luc Ponty - These pre-eminent fusion jazzers
from the late '70s worked with Zappa throughout the early '70s.
Keyboardist Duke actually joined the Mothers in 1969, but soon
left to work with jazz legend Cannonball Adderley and start a
solo career. When he returned to the Mothers in 1973, he brought
violinist Ponty. The pair continues to tour separately - Duke
recently visited the Valley with bassist Stanley Clarke, Ponty is
often seen with the Rite of Strings, also featuring Clarke.
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| Re: Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283392 ] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 06:17 |
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Shrike wrote:
> Little Feat - This Southern-boogie band from LA got its start
> when guitarist Lowell George and bassist Roy Estrada left the
> Mothers of Invention in 1970. Estrada was a founding member of
> the Mothers, while George joined Zappa in 1969 for the stunning
> Hot Rats. George's dirty slide playing can be heard on Willie the
> Pimp.
Really!?!?!?!?!?
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| Re: Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283406 ] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 16:01 |
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> Almost all of these bands are bigger than Zappa. Missing Persons is
> certainly better know. Zappa is practically extinct.
At least he Lived.
With a capital L.
AAAFNRAA
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| Re: Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283439 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 14:52 |
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Updated 6-2006.
The Hoodoo [at] spamcop.net and Shrike (caltrops [at] newsguy.com) Troll is a
composite troll. An emotionally disturbed individual named William
Bill Cmelak who lives in a mobile home in rural Wisconsin owns the
account. However, much of what is written is actually written by an
old woman named Karen Anderson who lives in Washington State. This
pair have stalked several people over the last several years, usually
online but in some selected cases Anderson has been known to real world
stalk. Why they stalk certain individuals is often unknown even to
their victims, although failed relationships, imagined or otherwise,
motorcyclists (Cmelak was once a motorcyclist and now feels inferior
because of his financial and physical handicaps that prevent him from
riding), motorhome enthusiasts (Anderson once owned a travel trailer
and is frustrated because she cannot travel), and people whose politics
they disagree with are common denominators.
This Cmelak asshole is:
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
More info on the 450 lb., bisexual, genuinely insane Cmelak Troll can
be found at:
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm
Cmelak had a dialup account with Frontiernet. However, thanks to good
people like yourself, Frontiernet cancelled his account. At the moment
he is keeping his current dialup account hidden so that doesn't get
cancelled. His newsgroup provider, Newsguy, would like to hear your
complaints. Email them at Abuse [at] newsguy.com
Cmelak lives a fantasy life. He used to brag that he was retired and
living on proceeds from gambling in Las Vegas until that was exposed as
being a fiction. He used to brag about being a wealthy property owner
in Florida until a check of property records revealed that his
"estate" was actually a =BC interest in an undeveloped mobile home
lot that he had inherited, and his share was worth about $2,500.
Currently he claims to own property in Wisconsin although there is no
record that he actually lives at the address that he gives out; much
more likely that he has his mobile home parked on a relative's
property since his brother and other family members still live in the
area. Basically, Cmelak is a liar who has trouble telling reality from
fiction.
Cmelak is a huge fan of satellite television, as would befit a loner
with no social skills.
Here's a photo that another one of Cmelak's "fans" posted in the Zappa
newsgroup, saying that this was Fat Billy Cmelak, a/k/a the Hoodoo
troll. Charming, isn't he?
http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/handsomebeasts.jpg
Described by his neighbors as looking like Haystacks Calhoun with bad
teeth, and smelling like the north end of a southbound yak, Bill Cmelak
lives a lonely existence in the woods inside a 20-year-old mobile home.
Except for the part-time minimum wage job cleaning floors that he is
too embarrassed to admit that he holds down Cmelak's only contact with
the outside world is through newsgroups and email. Cmelak drives a
20-year-old Ford pickup and has several other junk autos around his
hovel in Wisconsin. He has been known to brag about his financial
resources but the reality is that his so-called estate in Southern
Florida turned out to be an inherited mobile home lot valued at
$10,000, of which he only has a 25% interest. Basically, Cmelak owes
everyone in the little hick county that he lives in money and doesn't
have any friends. Consequently, he doesn't get out much.
Cmelak barely got out of high school and flunked out of his local
community college, so consider the intelligence level of this idiot
when you read his nonsense. To this day his high school classmates
still joke about him.
Cmelak was married at one time but his wife left him. Following his
divorce in the late 1990's he incurred large debts, which were
suddenly settled, presumably through a bankruptcy filing. Since then
his life has been on a downward spiral.
>From the Psychology of the Stalker:
" Stalkers tend to be unemployed or underemployed ... they often have
a history of failed intimate
relationships. They tend to devalue their victims and to sexualize
them. They also idealize certain people, minimize what they are doing
to resist, project onto people motives and actions that have no basis
in truth, and rationalize that the target person deserves to be
harassed and violated. "
Cmelak is one sick fuck, which is precisely the description given to
him by a detective that investigated him when he threatened to run over
and sexually assault motorcyclists at Daytona Bike Week in 2005. His
neighbors and anyone that associates with Cmelak needs to be warned
about him.
~~~
Details on Karen Anderson, who writes much of the garbage that the
Hoodoo Troll posts:
Karen Anderson
3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
Bremerton, WA 98310
As posted by one of her victims:
I and several other guys over the last decade have been stalked by a
woman named Karen Anderson. She claims a residence in Bremerton,
Washington (and, indeed, the Bremerton police found her there last
year) as well as connections to Wisconsin. I HAVE NEVER MET THIS WOMAN.
She stalks and trolls online and I lost count after discovering over
100 identities that she uses, along with tales of dozens of her
victims.
In my case Anderson developed a crush on me after telling me that she
had cancer and was depressed and suicidal. After two years of
correspondence during which she would repeatedly confess that she was
in love with me, and I would repeatedly tell her that I was NOT
interested in her in that capacity but was concerned for her mental
health, she insisted on meeting me when she claimed to be visiting
Florida to see other folks. One thing lead to another, I REFUSED to see
her, and she subsequently followed me and my new girlfriend around for
several days, taking clandestine photos.
In approximately May of 2004 I received a package in the mail with
Anderson's return address containing the clandestine photos of my
office, my house, and my girlfriend, and about 40 pornographic photos
of Anderson and her vibrator. You also have to understand that I have a
long history of doing charitable works. I have been an active Red Cross
Disaster Volunteer, have been actively involved in a local breast
cancer charity for several years, and it is not out of character for me
to try to encourage someone who tells me that they are depressed and
potentially suicidal.
Following the receipt of the package of photos I received several
online death threats from a clown in Wisconsin who was hiding his
identity but who checked out as a character named William Cmelak. His
newsgroup provider verified that the threats were coming from the
Antigo, Wisconsin area.
Cmelak went on to post in public newsgroups how he had a desire to
sexually assault men during Bike Week. Really strange, psycho stuff.
The police in three states investigated and interviewed Anderson and
tried to interview Cmelak, who vanished for several weeks, but were not
able to make a case. Yet.
Since then I have discovered that Anderson stalked a handicapped
gentleman who lives in New Orleans. Her methods were very similar in
that case. He has MS, is confined to a wheelchair, and was another
sympathetic correspondent to Ms. Anderson, who at the time claimed to
have MS. According to this gentlemen she showed up completely
unannounced one day after driving from Washington to Louisiana. This
gentlemen went on to say that Anderson seemed to be talking to herself
and answering herself, and scared him so badly that he excused himself
from his own house, left her behind, and was afraid to return until
sometime the next morning when he was sure that she had left.
I have also since heard that Anderson was a mental patient and
hospitalized for about 2 years in the general Pearson, Wisconsin area.
There have been a string of other guys that have been haunted by this
crazy woman. In fact, there are a couple of newsgroups where, for a
while, the chief form of entertainment was to tell their horror tales
about Karen Anderson. But I think that the reader gets the picture.
This woman is simply not 'normal' by any stretch of the imagination.
Considering the rambling writings and murky logic of both Cmelak and
Anderson, one has to wonder if they aren't both escaped mental
patients, which was the rumor in the case of Anderson a few years ago.
^^indifference^^ wrote:
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| Dirty, smelly Cmelak ordered by bankruptcy judge to "clean up" before he can appear in cou [message #283463 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 20:01 |
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Updated 6-2006.
The Hoodoo [at] spamcop.net and Shrike (caltrops [at] newsguy.com) Troll is a
composite troll. An emotionally disturbed individual named William
Bill Cmelak who lives in a mobile home in rural Wisconsin owns the
account. However, much of what is written is actually written by an
old woman named Karen Anderson who lives in Washington State. This
pair have stalked several people over the last several years, usually
online but in some selected cases Anderson has been known to real world
stalk. Why they stalk certain individuals is often unknown even to
their victims, although failed relationships, imagined or otherwise,
motorcyclists (Cmelak was once a motorcyclist and now feels inferior
because of his financial and physical handicaps that prevent him from
riding), motorhome enthusiasts (Anderson once owned a travel trailer
and is frustrated because she cannot travel), and people whose politics
they disagree with are common denominators.
This Cmelak asshole is:
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
More info on the 450 lb., bisexual, genuinely insane Cmelak Troll can
be found at:
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm
Cmelak had a dialup account with Frontiernet. However, thanks to good
people like yourself, Frontiernet cancelled his account. At the moment
he is keeping his current dialup account hidden so that doesn't get
cancelled. His newsgroup provider, Newsguy, would like to hear your
complaints. Email them at Abuse [at] newsguy.com
Cmelak lives a fantasy life. He used to brag that he was retired and
living on proceeds from gambling in Las Vegas until that was exposed as
being a fiction. He used to brag about being a wealthy property owner
in Florida until a check of property records revealed that his
"estate" was actually a =BC interest in an undeveloped mobile home
lot that he had inherited, and his share was worth about $2,500.
Currently he claims to own property in Wisconsin although there is no
record that he actually lives at the address that he gives out; much
more likely that he has his mobile home parked on a relative's
property since his brother and other family members still live in the
area. Basically, Cmelak is a liar who has trouble telling reality from
fiction.
Cmelak is a huge fan of satellite television, as would befit a loner
with no social skills.
Here's a photo that another one of Cmelak's "fans" posted in the Zappa
newsgroup, saying that this was Fat Billy Cmelak, a/k/a the Hoodoo
troll. Charming, isn't he?
http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/handsomebeasts.jpg
Described by his neighbors as looking like Haystacks Calhoun with bad
teeth, and smelling like the north end of a southbound yak, Bill Cmelak
lives a lonely existence in the woods inside a 20-year-old mobile home.
Except for the part-time minimum wage job cleaning floors that he is
too embarrassed to admit that he holds down Cmelak's only contact with
the outside world is through newsgroups and email. Cmelak drives a
20-year-old Ford pickup and has several other junk autos around his
hovel in Wisconsin. He has been known to brag about his financial
resources but the reality is that his so-called estate in Southern
Florida turned out to be an inherited mobile home lot valued at
$10,000, of which he only has a 25% interest. Basically, Cmelak owes
everyone in the little hick county that he lives in money and doesn't
have any friends. Consequently, he doesn't get out much.
Cmelak barely got out of high school and flunked out of his local
community college, so consider the intelligence level of this idiot
when you read his nonsense. To this day his high school classmates
still joke about him.
Cmelak was married at one time but his wife left him. Following his
divorce in the late 1990's he incurred large debts, which were
suddenly settled, presumably through a bankruptcy filing. Since then
his life has been on a downward spiral.
>From the Psychology of the Stalker:
" Stalkers tend to be unemployed or underemployed ... they often have
a history of failed intimate
relationships. They tend to devalue their victims and to sexualize
them. They also idealize certain people, minimize what they are doing
to resist, project onto people motives and actions that have no basis
in truth, and rationalize that the target person deserves to be
harassed and violated. "
Cmelak is one sick fuck, which is precisely the description given to
him by a detective that investigated him when he threatened to run over
and sexually assault motorcyclists at Daytona Bike Week in 2005. His
neighbors and anyone that associates with Cmelak needs to be warned
about him.
~~~
Details on Karen Anderson, who writes much of the garbage that the
Hoodoo Troll posts:
Karen Anderson
3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
Bremerton, WA 98310
As posted by one of her victims:
I and several other guys over the last decade have been stalked by a
woman named Karen Anderson. She claims a residence in Bremerton,
Washington (and, indeed, the Bremerton police found her there last
year) as well as connections to Wisconsin. I HAVE NEVER MET THIS WOMAN.
She stalks and trolls online and I lost count after discovering over
100 identities that she uses, along with tales of dozens of her
victims.
In my case Anderson developed a crush on me after telling me that she
had cancer and was depressed and suicidal. After two years of
correspondence during which she would repeatedly confess that she was
in love with me, and I would repeatedly tell her that I was NOT
interested in her in that capacity but was concerned for her mental
health, she insisted on meeting me when she claimed to be visiting
Florida to see other folks. One thing lead to another, I REFUSED to see
her, and she subsequently followed me and my new girlfriend around for
several days, taking clandestine photos.
In approximately May of 2004 I received a package in the mail with
Anderson's return address containing the clandestine photos of my
office, my house, and my girlfriend, and about 40 pornographic photos
of Anderson and her vibrator. You also have to understand that I have a
long history of doing charitable works. I have been an active Red Cross
Disaster Volunteer, have been actively involved in a local breast
cancer charity for several years, and it is not out of character for me
to try to encourage someone who tells me that they are depressed and
potentially suicidal.
Following the receipt of the package of photos I received several
online death threats from a clown in Wisconsin who was hiding his
identity but who checked out as a character named William Cmelak. His
newsgroup provider verified that the threats were coming from the
Antigo, Wisconsin area.
Cmelak went on to post in public newsgroups how he had a desire to
sexually assault men during Bike Week. Really strange, psycho stuff.
The police in three states investigated and interviewed Anderson and
tried to interview Cmelak, who vanished for several weeks, but were not
able to make a case. Yet.
Since then I have discovered that Anderson stalked a handicapped
gentleman who lives in New Orleans. Her methods were very similar in
that case. He has MS, is confined to a wheelchair, and was another
sympathetic correspondent to Ms. Anderson, who at the time claimed to
have MS. According to this gentlemen she showed up completely
unannounced one day after driving from Washington to Louisiana. This
gentlemen went on to say that Anderson seemed to be talking to herself
and answering herself, and scared him so badly that he excused himself
from his own house, left her behind, and was afraid to return until
sometime the next morning when he was sure that she had left.
I have also since heard that Anderson was a mental patient and
hospitalized for about 2 years in the general Pearson, Wisconsin area.
There have been a string of other guys that have been haunted by this
crazy woman. In fact, there are a couple of newsgroups where, for a
while, the chief form of entertainment was to tell their horror tales
about Karen Anderson. But I think that the reader gets the picture.
This woman is simply not 'normal' by any stretch of the imagination.
Considering the rambling writings and murky logic of both Cmelak and
Anderson, one has to wonder if they aren't both escaped mental
patients, which was the rumor in the case of Anderson a few years ago.
Shrike wrote:
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| Re: Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283499 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 21:13 |
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Gary ha escrito:
> Shrike wrote:
> > Little Feat - This Southern-boogie band from LA got its start
> > when guitarist Lowell George and bassist Roy Estrada left the
> > Mothers of Invention in 1970. Estrada was a founding member of
> > the Mothers, while George joined Zappa in 1969 for the stunning
> > Hot Rats. George's dirty slide playing can be heard on Willie the
> > Pimp.
>
> Really!?!?!?!?!?
Lowell George is supposed to play uncredited rhythm guitar on the
album, but I don't think I hear him playing slide on that particular
song.
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| Re: Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283500 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 21:37 |
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In article <1150830831.001503.314770 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Román García" <donlope [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Gary ha escrito:
>
> > Shrike wrote:
> > > Little Feat - This Southern-boogie band from LA got its start
> > > when guitarist Lowell George and bassist Roy Estrada left the
> > > Mothers of Invention in 1970. Estrada was a founding member of
> > > the Mothers, while George joined Zappa in 1969 for the stunning
> > > Hot Rats. George's dirty slide playing can be heard on Willie the
> > > Pimp.
> >
> > Really!?!?!?!?!?
>
> Lowell George is supposed to play uncredited rhythm guitar on the
> album, but I don't think I hear him playing slide on that particular
> song.
Lowell George himself said that he played on Hot Rats
<http://members.aol.com/tedalvy/lg.htm>.
But did he base this claim on listening to the album in question and
recognizing a song on which he had played? Or did he just remember
playing at a session that he thought was intended for that album?
No one's come up with an obvious candidate for Lowell's contribution to
Hot Rats. I wonder if what he played on was actually Directly From My
Heart To You.
Given the presence of Sugarcane Harris (and Roy Estrada and Jimmy Carl
Black), Directly From My Heart To You was probably recorded during the
sessions for Hot Rats. It features a rhythm guitar part that could just
as likely have been played by Lowell George as by FZ.
--Charles
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Mi, 21 Juni 2006 00:52 |
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Listen to the Little Feat song 'A Day at the Dog Races' from 'Time Loves
A Hero' for a total jazz/fusion instrumental masterpiece!
happy summer!
102=BA out here south of San Ber'dino!
Y.W.
----------------------------------------------
...with the oil of Aphrodite, and the dust of the Grand Wazoo. He said,
"You might not believe this little fella, but it'll cure your asthma
too!"
-fz
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| Re: Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283506 ] |
Mi, 21 Juni 2006 01:39 |
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Yesterdays Wafflez wrote:
> Listen to the Little Feat song 'A Day at the Dog Races' from 'Time Loves
> A Hero' for a total jazz/fusion instrumental masterpiece!
>
I think that's more Bill Payne than Lowell George... but still one
of my favorites.
>
> happy summer!
> 102º out here south of San Ber'dino!
>
>
> Y.W.
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> ..with the oil of Aphrodite, and the dust of the Grand Wazoo. He said,
> "You might not believe this little fella, but it'll cure your asthma
> too!"
> -fz
>
>
--
Les Cargill
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Mi, 21 Juni 2006 15:45 |
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Updated 6-2006.
The Hoodoo [at] spamcop.net and Shrike (caltrops [at] newsguy.com) Troll is a
composite troll. An emotionally disturbed individual named William
Bill Cmelak who lives in a mobile home in rural Wisconsin owns the
account. However, much of what is written is actually written by an
old woman named Karen Anderson who lives in Washington State. This
pair have stalked several people over the last several years, usually
online but in some selected cases Anderson has been known to real world
stalk. Why they stalk certain individuals is often unknown even to
their victims, although failed relationships, imagined or otherwise,
motorcyclists (Cmelak was once a motorcyclist and now feels inferior
because of his financial and physical handicaps that prevent him from
riding), motorhome enthusiasts (Anderson once owned a travel trailer
and is frustrated because she cannot travel), and people whose politics
they disagree with are common denominators.
This Cmelak asshole is:
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
More info on the 450 lb., bisexual, genuinely insane Cmelak Troll can
be found at:
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm
Cmelak had a dialup account with Frontiernet. However, thanks to good
people like yourself, Frontiernet cancelled his account. At the moment
he is keeping his current dialup account hidden so that doesn't get
cancelled. His newsgroup provider, Newsguy, would like to hear your
complaints. Email them at Abuse [at] newsguy.com
Cmelak lives a fantasy life. He used to brag that he was retired and
living on proceeds from gambling in Las Vegas until that was exposed as
being a fiction. He used to brag about being a wealthy property owner
in Florida until a check of property records revealed that his
"estate" was actually a =BC interest in an undeveloped mobile home
lot that he had inherited, and his share was worth about $2,500.
Currently he claims to own property in Wisconsin although there is no
record that he actually lives at the address that he gives out; much
more likely that he has his mobile home parked on a relative's
property since his brother and other family members still live in the
area. Basically, Cmelak is a liar who has trouble telling reality from
fiction.
Cmelak is a huge fan of satellite television, as would befit a loner
with no social skills.
Here's a photo that another one of Cmelak's "fans" posted in the Zappa
newsgroup, saying that this was Fat Billy Cmelak, a/k/a the Hoodoo
troll. Charming, isn't he?
http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/handsomebeasts.jpg
Described by his neighbors as looking like Haystacks Calhoun with bad
teeth, and smelling like the north end of a southbound yak, Bill Cmelak
lives a lonely existence in the woods inside a 20-year-old mobile home.
Except for the part-time minimum wage job cleaning floors that he is
too embarrassed to admit that he holds down Cmelak's only contact with
the outside world is through newsgroups and email. Cmelak drives a
20-year-old Ford pickup and has several other junk autos around his
hovel in Wisconsin. He has been known to brag about his financial
resources but the reality is that his so-called estate in Southern
Florida turned out to be an inherited mobile home lot valued at
$10,000, of which he only has a 25% interest. Basically, Cmelak owes
everyone in the little hick county that he lives in money and doesn't
have any friends. Consequently, he doesn't get out much.
Cmelak barely got out of high school and flunked out of his local
community college, so consider the intelligence level of this idiot
when you read his nonsense. To this day his high school classmates
still joke about him.
Cmelak was married at one time but his wife left him. Following his
divorce in the late 1990's he incurred large debts, which were
suddenly settled, presumably through a bankruptcy filing. Since then
his life has been on a downward spiral.
>From the Psychology of the Stalker:
" Stalkers tend to be unemployed or underemployed ... they often have
a history of failed intimate
relationships. They tend to devalue their victims and to sexualize
them. They also idealize certain people, minimize what they are doing
to resist, project onto people motives and actions that have no basis
in truth, and rationalize that the target person deserves to be
harassed and violated. "
Cmelak is one sick fuck, which is precisely the description given to
him by a detective that investigated him when he threatened to run over
and sexually assault motorcyclists at Daytona Bike Week in 2005. His
neighbors and anyone that associates with Cmelak needs to be warned
about him.
~~~
Details on Karen Anderson, who writes much of the garbage that the
Hoodoo Troll posts:
Karen Anderson
3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
Bremerton, WA 98310
As posted by one of her victims:
I and several other guys over the last decade have been stalked by a
woman named Karen Anderson. She claims a residence in Bremerton,
Washington (and, indeed, the Bremerton police found her there last
year) as well as connections to Wisconsin. I HAVE NEVER MET THIS WOMAN.
She stalks and trolls online and I lost count after discovering over
100 identities that she uses, along with tales of dozens of her
victims.
In my case Anderson developed a crush on me after telling me that she
had cancer and was depressed and suicidal. After two years of
correspondence during which she would repeatedly confess that she was
in love with me, and I would repeatedly tell her that I was NOT
interested in her in that capacity but was concerned for her mental
health, she insisted on meeting me when she claimed to be visiting
Florida to see other folks. One thing lead to another, I REFUSED to see
her, and she subsequently followed me and my new girlfriend around for
several days, taking clandestine photos.
In approximately May of 2004 I received a package in the mail with
Anderson's return address containing the clandestine photos of my
office, my house, and my girlfriend, and about 40 pornographic photos
of Anderson and her vibrator. You also have to understand that I have a
long history of doing charitable works. I have been an active Red Cross
Disaster Volunteer, have been actively involved in a local breast
cancer charity for several years, and it is not out of character for me
to try to encourage someone who tells me that they are depressed and
potentially suicidal.
Following the receipt of the package of photos I received several
online death threats from a clown in Wisconsin who was hiding his
identity but who checked out as a character named William Cmelak. His
newsgroup provider verified that the threats were coming from the
Antigo, Wisconsin area.
Cmelak went on to post in public newsgroups how he had a desire to
sexually assault men during Bike Week. Really strange, psycho stuff.
The police in three states investigated and interviewed Anderson and
tried to interview Cmelak, who vanished for several weeks, but were not
able to make a case. Yet.
Since then I have discovered that Anderson stalked a handicapped
gentleman who lives in New Orleans. Her methods were very similar in
that case. He has MS, is confined to a wheelchair, and was another
sympathetic correspondent to Ms. Anderson, who at the time claimed to
have MS. According to this gentlemen she showed up completely
unannounced one day after driving from Washington to Louisiana. This
gentlemen went on to say that Anderson seemed to be talking to herself
and answering herself, and scared him so badly that he excused himself
from his own house, left her behind, and was afraid to return until
sometime the next morning when he was sure that she had left.
I have also since heard that Anderson was a mental patient and
hospitalized for about 2 years in the general Pearson, Wisconsin area.
There have been a string of other guys that have been haunted by this
crazy woman. In fact, there are a couple of newsgroups where, for a
while, the chief form of entertainment was to tell their horror tales
about Karen Anderson. But I think that the reader gets the picture.
This woman is simply not 'normal' by any stretch of the imagination.
Considering the rambling writings and murky logic of both Cmelak and
Anderson, one has to wonder if they aren't both escaped mental
patients, which was the rumor in the case of Anderson a few years ago.
Shrike wrote:
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| Re: Many big names in multiple genres cut their teeth in Zappa bands [message #283527 ] |
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Charles Ulrich ha escrito:
> In article <1150830831.001503.314770 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "Rom=E1n Garc=EDa" <donlope [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Gary ha escrito:
> >
> > > Shrike wrote:
> > > > Little Feat - This Southern-boogie band from LA got its start
> > > > when guitarist Lowell George and bassist Roy Estrada left the
> > > > Mothers of Invention in 1970. Estrada was a founding member of
> > > > the Mothers, while George joined Zappa in 1969 for the stunning
> > > > Hot Rats. George's dirty slide playing can be heard on Willie the
> > > > Pimp.
> > >
> > > Really!?!?!?!?!?
> >
> > Lowell George is supposed to play uncredited rhythm guitar on the
> > album, but I don't think I hear him playing slide on that particular
> > song.
>
> Lowell George himself said that he played on Hot Rats
> <http://members.aol.com/tedalvy/lg.htm>.
>
> But did he base this claim on listening to the album in question and
> recognizing a song on which he had played? Or did he just remember
> playing at a session that he thought was intended for that album?
>
> No one's come up with an obvious candidate for Lowell's contribution to
> Hot Rats. I wonder if what he played on was actually Directly From My
> Heart To You.
>
> Given the presence of Sugarcane Harris (and Roy Estrada and Jimmy Carl
> Black), Directly From My Heart To You was probably recorded during the
> sessions for Hot Rats. It features a rhythm guitar part that could just
> as likely have been played by Lowell George as by FZ.
"Toads Of The Short Forest" could be another candidate from the _Hot
Rats_ sessions for Lowell George to play in it.
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