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Music / Musik » alt.fan.frank-zappa » If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin..
If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283073] Do, 08 Juni 2006 14:26
Mike Espinoza  
Al-Zarqawi is dead. May he burn in France.

--
Mike E.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283075 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 15:25
bilh  
Mike Espinoza wrote:
> Al-Zarqawi is dead. May he burn in France.

I figure Sheik Osama be ROTFLHAO.

Mighty convenient to have the news about the Abu Musab rub-out.

It hides a barrel of inconvenient news: Laura sleeping a night or
three outside the WH, the Senate vote against the same sex amendment,
the pension fund for DeLay's spouse, the climbdown on talks (or no
talks) with Iran, threats to apply sanctions against Japan for its
refusal to import beef untested for disease, etc etc.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283076 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 15:37
mike macken  
On 8 Jun 2006 06:25:54 -0700, bilh [at] pd.jaring.my wrote:

>
>Mike Espinoza wrote:
>> Al-Zarqawi is dead. May he burn in France.
>
>I figure Sheik Osama be ROTFLHAO.
>
>Mighty convenient to have the news about the Abu Musab rub-out.
>
>It hides a barrel of inconvenient news: Laura sleeping a night or
>three outside the WH, the Senate vote against the same sex amendment,
>the pension fund for DeLay's spouse, the climbdown on talks (or no
>talks) with Iran, threats to apply sanctions against Japan for its
>refusal to import beef untested for disease, etc etc.


well i quess it is news worthy but something tells me it will only be
a few months before they create a new houshold name villian.
It's also like the mafia kill one and there's 4 guys waiting to take
is place.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283077 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 16:05
bilh  
mike macken wrote:

> well i quess it is news worthy but something tells me it will only be
> a few months before they create a new houshold name villian.
> It's also like the mafia kill one and there's 4 guys waiting to take
> is place.

Ain't that the truth. That's the genius of Sheik Osama and his
invention, the Database (aka al Qaeda). It's like a hydra, cut off one
head ... and the 'base has got many more.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283078 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 16:35
Mike Espinoza  
bilh [at] pd.jaring.my wrote:
> Mike Espinoza wrote:
> > Al-Zarqawi is dead. May he burn in France.
>
> I figure Sheik Osama be ROTFLHAO.
>
> Mighty convenient to have the news about the Abu Musab rub-out.
>
> It hides a barrel of inconvenient news: Laura sleeping a night or
> three outside the WH, the Senate vote against the same sex amendment,
> the pension fund for DeLay's spouse, the climbdown on talks (or no
> talks) with Iran, threats to apply sanctions against Japan for its
> refusal to import beef untested for disease, etc etc.

Let's not forget Ann Coulter saying 9-11 widows were (figuratively)
dancing on their husband's graves.

The death of Al-Zarqawi is surely a good thing, but isn't it
interesting how we keep getting new boogiemen to go after.

"Osama?....Wait!....Look over here!....See....Sah-dahhhhm.....No, don't
look over there. See....Sah-dahhhhhm....and look...We got him!...Oh,
and look over here.....Al-Zarqawi....See, we're fighting
Al-Zarqawi....in Iraq....to avenge the attack on America....and fight
them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.....And
look!....We got Al-Zarqawi!.....

....Uh, Osama? Osama who?"
---
Mike E.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283081 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 19:36
Zut boF  
Mike Espinoza a =E9crit :

> Al-Zarqawi is dead. May he burn in France.
>=20
> --
> Mike E.

Any way it's a Po-Jama People !!
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi fromhebbin.. [message #283083 ] Do, 08 Juni 2006 20:56
Martin Gregorie  
mike macken wrote:
>
> well i quess it is news worthy but something tells me it will only be
> a few months before they create a new houshold name villian.
> It's also like the mafia kill one and there's 4 guys waiting to take
> is place.
>
Maybe not true for Iraq. At least, the Beeb was saying that he was the
only known big cheese Al Quaeda had in Iraq and none of the rest have
the clout to carry on making trouble on his scale. Lets hope that's true.

Now, George, how 'bout using all those nice family and business
connections with Saudi Arabia to reel in Osama?


--
martin [at] | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283088 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 04:37
Frunobulax  
Martin Gregorie wrote:
> the Beeb was saying that he was the
> only known big cheese Al Quaeda had in Iraq and none of the rest have
> the clout to carry on making trouble on his scale. Lets hope that's true.


If you'll recall, Al-Zarqawi did not start as head of Al Quaeda in
Iraq, he essentially petitioned to be so, turning in a resume of
video-taped head-severings and numerous happy insurgents to get the
position.

I've no doubt Osama is receiving many more eager applicants as I type.

NP: Crookesmoor - Joseph Holbrooke Trio
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283089 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 04:40
Frunobulax  
Mike Espinoza wrote:

> The death of Al-Zarqawi is surely a good thing, but isn't it
> interesting how we keep getting new boogiemen to go after.

Surely (Shirley?) you don't doubt the number of people around the world
ready willing and able to show their voluminous hate for the US?

While I acknowledge your point, I don't quite see said conspiracy with
figures like Al-Zarqawi. We may have created him through our actions -
but he's real, brutha.

NP: Crookesmoor - Joseph Holbrooke Trio
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283090 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 04:47
mike macken  
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:56:05 +0100, Martin Gregorie
<martin [at] see.sig.for.address> wrote:

>mike macken wrote:
>>
>> well i quess it is news worthy but something tells me it will only be
>> a few months before they create a new houshold name villian.
>> It's also like the mafia kill one and there's 4 guys waiting to take
>> is place.
> >
>Maybe not true for Iraq. At least, the Beeb was saying that he was the
>only known big cheese Al Quaeda had in Iraq and none of the rest have
>the clout to carry on making trouble on his scale. Lets hope that's true.

you're living in a dream world wake up...........suicide bombings over
there are like our NFL


>
>Now, George, how 'bout using all those nice family and business
>connections with Saudi Arabia to reel in Osama?

Urrrrrrrrr good luck, if they couldn't do it in 5 years what makes you
think they will now.
The ONLY thing they are interested in is keeping their Monarchy in
power and since he isn't a direct threat to him they couldn't give 2
shits were he is.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283092 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 05:00
espinoza  
On 8 Jun 2006 19:40:28 -0700, "Frunobulax" <sevrinx2 [at] aol.com> wrote:

>Mike Espinoza wrote:
>
>> The death of Al-Zarqawi is surely a good thing, but isn't it
>> interesting how we keep getting new boogiemen to go after.
>
>Surely (Shirley?) you don't doubt the number of people around the world
>ready willing and able to show their voluminous hate for the US?
>
>While I acknowledge your point, I don't quite see said conspiracy with
>figures like Al-Zarqawi. We may have created him through our actions -
>but he's real, brutha.

Oh, I never said they were manufactured. It's the marketing of the
whole thing that I take issue with. We all know that Osama Bin Laden
is responsible for 9/11 and, yet, he is the one that hasn't been
gotten to. The US has taken down the Taliban, Saddam Hussein, Abu
Musab Al-Zarqawi, and numerous other cards in the terror deck, each
time getting further and futher removed from 9/11.

It just looks suspiciously like this administration tries to take the
path of least resistance. They get who they CAN get because they
can't get who they SHOULD get. That's why we got into Iraq in the
first place. It's easier than playing hardball with Saudi Arabia and
Pakistan.

I'm glad Al-Zarqawi is dead. He was a real asshole. I hope it makes
a difference in this whole mess, but only time will tell.
--
Mike E.
--
Mike E.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi fromhebbin.. [message #283093 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 06:27
Les Cargill  
bilh [at] pd.jaring.my wrote:

> mike macken wrote:
>
>
>>well i quess it is news worthy but something tells me it will only be
>>a few months before they create a new houshold name villian.
>>It's also like the mafia kill one and there's 4 guys waiting to take
>>is place.
>
>
> Ain't that the truth. That's the genius of Sheik Osama and his
> invention, the Database (aka al Qaeda). It's like a hydra, cut off one
> head ... and the 'base has got many more.
>

Yet it has... nothing at all. nothing at all.. nothing at all .

Remember, kids, information is not ...

Line?

--
Les Cargill
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi fromhebbin.. [message #283094 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 06:25
Les Cargill  
Mike Espinoza wrote:

> Al-Zarqawi is dead. May he burn in France.
>
> --
> Mike E.
>

Al was a nice boy. He used to cut the grass.

--
Les Cargill
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi fromhebbin.. [message #283095 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 06:30
Les Cargill  
Mike Espinoza wrote:

> bilh [at] pd.jaring.my wrote:
>
>>Mike Espinoza wrote:
>>
>>>Al-Zarqawi is dead. May he burn in France.
>>
>>I figure Sheik Osama be ROTFLHAO.
>>
>>Mighty convenient to have the news about the Abu Musab rub-out.
>>
>>It hides a barrel of inconvenient news: Laura sleeping a night or
>>three outside the WH, the Senate vote against the same sex amendment,
>>the pension fund for DeLay's spouse, the climbdown on talks (or no
>>talks) with Iran, threats to apply sanctions against Japan for its
>>refusal to import beef untested for disease, etc etc.
>
>
> Let's not forget Ann Coulter saying 9-11 widows were (figuratively)
> dancing on their husband's graves.
>
> The death of Al-Zarqawi is surely a good thing, but isn't it
> interesting how we keep getting new boogiemen to go after.
>
> "Osama?....Wait!....Look over here!....See....Sah-dahhhhm.....No, don't
> look over there. See....Sah-dahhhhhm....and look...We got him!...Oh,
> and look over here.....Al-Zarqawi....See, we're fighting
> Al-Zarqawi....in Iraq....to avenge the attack on America....and fight
> them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.....And
> look!....We got Al-Zarqawi!.....
>
> ...Uh, Osama? Osama who?"
> ---
> Mike E.
>


"... so book me a passage, on the last plane out." - Kevin Gilbert.


--
Les Cargill
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283096 ] Fr, 09 Juni 2006 13:54
Milhouse Guidry of th[2]  
Les Cargill wrote:

> "... so book me a passage, on the last plane out." - Kevin Gilbert.

"...and don't forget to put the rope and the lubricant in my travel bag."

--
Milhouse Guidry of the mWo

"If it takes you more than two, *MAYBE* three posts
to say what you think needs to be said,
you don't know what you're talking about and should shut up."
--The Bede

mWo. It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283132 ] Sa, 10 Juni 2006 23:17
Milhouse Guidry of th[2]  
Les Cargill wrote:
> "... so book me a passage, on the last plane out." - Kevin Gilbert.

"...and don't forget to put the rope and the lubricant in my travel bag."

--
Milhouse Guidry

"If it takes you more than two, *MAYBE* three posts
to say what you think needs to be said,
you don't know what you're talking about and should shut up."
--The Bede
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi fromhebbin.. [message #283181 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 00:55
Martin Gregorie  
mike macken wrote:
>> Maybe not true for Iraq. At least, the Beeb was saying that he was the
>> only known big cheese Al Quaeda had in Iraq and none of the rest have
>> the clout to carry on making trouble on his scale. Lets hope that's true.
>
> you're living in a dream world wake up...........suicide bombings over
> there are like our NFL
>
Reportage only - worth what you and I paid for it.

>
>> Now, George, how 'bout using all those nice family and business
>> connections with Saudi Arabia to reel in Osama?
>
> Urrrrrrrrr good luck, if they couldn't do it in 5 years what makes you
> think they will now.
> The ONLY thing they are interested in is keeping their Monarchy in
> power and since he isn't a direct threat to him they couldn't give 2
> shits were he is.
>
I know that. You know that, but apparently the majority of the GUAP
(Great Unwashed American Public) don't or they would not have elected
GWB a second time.

I know this: USA used to be a great place to visit and to work. I worked
in NYC during the bicentennial year and by and large had a great time.
Since then I've visited a lot. Even October 2001 was pretty nice - lots
of cars trailing flags, but in the circumstances that was fair enough.
The only OTT oddity was being escorted into the Denver FSDO by an armed
guard, but that was as far as the changes went and I thought even that
would wear off.

Last time I visited was to go to Kitty Hawk in 2003 for the First Flight
celebration and things had changed rather noticeably and not for the
better either. That visit was somewhat scary: lots of guns plus bag and
metal detector searches just to get into what was a pretty low key air
display event. As I said, I used to like to visit and would have worked
in the US again if asked. Now I'm not so sure I even want to visit
again. Attitudes and the atmosphere have changed that much.

Besides, since to rise of the factory feed lots the quality of USDA
approved steak has gone down the pan too.

I put these changes down largely to GWB, his minders and rapacious
thieving buddies like Ken Lay. From an outsider's view it would be only
just if he gets impeached before the end of his term. So, all reminders
of his singular lack of interest in stopping Al Quaeda and the
impressive smoke and mirror display whenever it looks like the GUAP
might notice his inaction need bringing to public attention as often as
possible.

Our Bozo (Blair) is nearly as bad and with any luck he'll get his
comeuppance too. Apart from anything else the speed with which he
shifted his lips from Clinton's backside to the Bush arse without
pausing for breath or missing a beat was a chilling demonstration of his
amorality and total lack of principles.


--
martin [at] | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi fromhebbin.. [message #283182 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 01:02
Martin Gregorie  
Frunobulax wrote:
>
> While I acknowledge your point, I don't quite see said conspiracy with
> figures like Al-Zarqawi. We may have created him through our actions -
> but he's real, brutha.
>
Agreed. There are psychopaths everywhere.

However, don't forget that Al Quaeda was set up using US and Saudi
money. Was that during the reign of Bush the Older or Clinton? I forget.
Either way, funding them was evidently based on the assumption that
anybody who was Russia's enemy would see eye to eye with their sugar
daddies on everything else too. Stupid assumption!


--
martin [at] | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |
Re: If Frank be throwin' pork grenades at Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi from hebbin.. [message #283185 ] Di, 13 Juni 2006 06:42
Frunobulax  
> don't forget that Al Quaeda was set up using US and Saudi
> money

Never have. Can't believe how many others have or - worse - still
haven't heard.

What lovely webs.

NP: Morphine En Peau De Morse - Philharmonie


Martin Gregorie wrote:
> Frunobulax wrote:
> >
> > While I acknowledge your point, I don't quite see said conspiracy with
> > figures like Al-Zarqawi. We may have created him through our actions -
> > but he's real, brutha.
> >
> Agreed. There are psychopaths everywhere.
>
> However, don't forget that Al Quaeda was set up using US and Saudi
> money. Was that during the reign of Bush the Older or Clinton? I forget.
> Either way, funding them was evidently based on the assumption that
> anybody who was Russia's enemy would see eye to eye with their sugar
> daddies on everything else too. Stupid assumption!
>
>
> --
> martin [at] | Martin Gregorie
> gregorie. | Essex, UK
> org |
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