| International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282650] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 05:15 |
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Hey, June 8 was International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day!
(Also known as Ojevind Lang's birthday.)
In observance of this special day, it is my privilege to launch this
year's Scandinavian Linguistic Thread;
I submit that the Klingon language is based on Scandinavian languages.
I submit the following proof: Scandinavian languages are
incomprehensible. Klingon is incomprehensible. Ergo, Klingon must be
based on a Scandinavian language. QED. ;-)
Happy Birthday, Ojevind!
^___^
Morgoth's Curse
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282660 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 15:42 |
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"Morgoth's Curse" <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:6udk8218hs8sra5aj7836038gc3b056i10 [at] 4ax.com...
> Hey, June 8 was International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day!
> (Also known as Ojevind Lang's birthday.)
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>
> In observance of this special day, it is my privilege to launch this
> year's Scandinavian Linguistic Thread;
>
> I submit that the Klingon language is based on Scandinavian languages.
>
> I submit the following proof: Scandinavian languages are
> incomprehensible. Klingon is incomprehensible. Ergo, Klingon must be
> based on a Scandinavian language. QED. ;-)
>
> Happy Birthday, Ojevind!
Thank you, Michael! If your suspicion is correct, then I would surmise that
Klingon is based on neo-Norwegian, since I find it so hard to udnerstand.
Öjevind
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282671 ] |
Sa, 10 Juni 2006 22:32 |
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In message <news:4f00i9F1fu8d3U1 [at] individual.net> "Öjevind Lång"
<bredband.net [at] ojevind.lang> enriched us with:
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> "Morgoth's Curse" <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> skrev i
> meddelandet news:6udk8218hs8sra5aj7836038gc3b056i10 [at] 4ax.com...
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<snip>
>> I submit that the Klingon language is based on Scandinavian
>> languages.
>>
>> I submit the following proof: Scandinavian languages are
>> incomprehensible. Klingon is incomprehensible. Ergo, Klingon
>> must be based on a Scandinavian language. QED. ;-)
>
> Thank you, Michael! If your suspicion is correct, then I would
> surmise that Klingon is based on neo-Norwegian, since I find it so
> hard to udnerstand.
There are one or two dialects from north-western Jutland that would fit
the the requirements as well, but otherwise I agree entirely with that
surmise -- neo-Norwegian is, as the only Scand language I've ever seen,
even incomprehensible in print ;-)
>> Happy Birthday, Ojevind!
Tillykke!
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Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
One who cannot cast away a treasure at need is in fetters.
- Aragorn "Strider", /Two Towers/ (J.R.R. Tolkien)
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282729 ] |
Mo, 12 Juni 2006 23:01 |
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"Troels Forchhammer" <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
news:Xns97DEE7584DB40T.Forch [at] 131.228.6.98...
> In message <news:4f00i9F1fu8d3U1 [at] individual.net> "Öjevind Lång"
> <bredband.net [at] ojevind.lang> enriched us with:
> > "Morgoth's Curse" <morgothscurse2002 [at] nospam.yahoo.com> skrev i
> > meddelandet news:6udk8218hs8sra5aj7836038gc3b056i10 [at] 4ax.com...
> >> I submit the following proof: Scandinavian languages are
> >> incomprehensible. Klingon is incomprehensible. Ergo, Klingon
> >> must be based on a Scandinavian language. QED. ;-)
> > Thank you, Michael! If your suspicion is correct, then I would
> > surmise that Klingon is based on neo-Norwegian, since I find it so
> > hard to udnerstand.
Well, I find Nynorsk quite easy to understand, but neither Klingon nor
the sample of Värmlandsk I heard once...
> There are one or two dialects from north-western Jutland that would fit
> the the requirements as well, but otherwise I agree entirely with that
> surmise -- neo-Norwegian is, as the only Scand language I've ever seen,
> even incomprehensible in print ;-)
You forgetting Synnejysk?
Ramn.
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282734 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 01:18 |
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In message <news:_hljg.125$Ws4.119 [at] news.get2net.dk> "Raven"
<jonlennart.beck.god [at] damn.get2net.that.dk.spam> enriched us with:
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> "Troels Forchhammer" <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> skrev i en
> meddelelse news:Xns97DEE7584DB40T.Forch [at] 131.228.6.98...
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<snip>
[...]
>> neo-Norwegian is, as the only Scand language I've ever seen,
>> even incomprehensible in print ;-)
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> You forgetting Synnejysk?
Nah, but after the first decade of marriage to one of them it seems
less incomprehensible -- any anyone knows, anyway, that Synnejysk is
just a German dialect; nothing Klingon there (carefully checking that
the wife isn't looking over my shoulder).
'Synnejysk': the dialect of southern jutland, in particular the Danish
areas of northern Schleswig.
--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
It is useless to meet revenge with revenge: it will heal
nothing.
- Frodo Baggins, /The Return of the King/ (J.R.R. Tolkien)
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282760 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 02:52 |
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Troels Forchhammer <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> wrote:
> In message <news:_hljg.125$Ws4.119 [at] news.get2net.dk> "Raven"
> <jonlennart.beck.god [at] damn.get2net.that.dk.spam> enriched us with:
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>> "Troels Forchhammer" <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> skrev i en
>> meddelelse news:Xns97DEE7584DB40T.Forch [at] 131.228.6.98...
>>>
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> <snip>
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> [...]
>>> neo-Norwegian is, as the only Scand language I've ever seen,
>>> even incomprehensible in print ;-)
>>
>> You forgetting Synnejysk?
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> Nah, but after the first decade of marriage to one of them it seems
> less incomprehensible -- any anyone knows, anyway, that Synnejysk is
> just a German dialect; nothing Klingon there (carefully checking that
> the wife isn't looking over my shoulder).
>
> 'Synnejysk': the dialect of southern jutland, in particular the Danish
> areas of northern Schleswig.
I read something about Heligoland the other day. Is that in the general
area under discussion? Does it have its own dialect?
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282784 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 12:29 |
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"Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
news:r%njg.85140$wl.42428 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Troels Forchhammer <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
>>>> neo-Norwegian is, as the only Scand language I've ever seen,
>>>> even incomprehensible in print ;-)
>>>
>>> You forgetting Synnejysk?
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>> Nah, but after the first decade of marriage to one of them it seems
>> less incomprehensible -- any anyone knows, anyway, that Synnejysk is
>> just a German dialect; nothing Klingon there (carefully checking that
>> the wife isn't looking over my shoulder).
>>
>> 'Synnejysk': the dialect of southern jutland, in particular the Danish
>> areas of northern Schleswig.
Som people (including other Danes) also find the dialect of eastern Jutland
rather difficult to understand.
> I read something about Heligoland the other day. Is that in the general
> area under discussion? Does it have its own dialect?
They speak Low German, as do country people in large areas of northwestern
Germany.
Öjevind
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282803 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 17:50 |
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"Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net [at] ojevind.lang> skrev i meddelandet
news:4f7icrF1h96n0U1 [at] individual.net...
[snip]
> Som people (including other Danes) also find the dialect of eastern
> Jutland rather difficult to understand.
Oops! I meant *western * Jutland; I must have been holding the map upside
down.
Öjevind
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282816 ] |
Di, 13 Juni 2006 20:46 |
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"Troels Forchhammer" <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> skrev i en meddelelse
news:Xns97E1D3904998T.Forch [at] 130.133.1.4...
> Nah, but after the first decade of marriage to one of them it seems
> less incomprehensible -- any anyone knows, anyway, that Synnejysk is
> just a German dialect; nothing Klingon there (carefully checking that
> the wife isn't looking over my shoulder).
And Danish as such is not a dialect of German? I bet a student of Old
Norse would say that Scand is to a large degree just that. :-) The softrat
possibly would have, without the "to a large degree" modifier ---
Hrafn.
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282823 ] |
Mi, 14 Juni 2006 00:32 |
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In message <news:4f8564F1h1048U1 [at] individual.net> "Öjevind Lång"
<bredband.net [at] ojevind.lang> enriched us with:
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> "Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net [at] ojevind.lang> skrev i meddelandet
> news:4f7icrF1h96n0U1 [at] individual.net...
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>> Som people (including other Danes) also find the dialect of
>> eastern Jutland rather difficult to understand.
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> Oops! I meant *western * Jutland; I must have been holding the map
> upside down.
Depending on which part of eastern Jutland we pick the statement is
true nonetheless ;-)
In particular the people from the 'nose' -- the largish peninsula
(Djursland) that juts out south of Limfjorden (the original etymology
is, of course, something entirely different, but as so often happens
the name has changed over time to make some senseless sense in
contemporary language -- in that sense the name literally means 'The
Glue Inlet', though the bathing is excellent there <G>).
--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom
of thought which they avoid.
- Soren Kierkegaard
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| Re: International Scandinavian Linguistics Thread Day! [message #282825 ] |
Mi, 14 Juni 2006 00:45 |
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In message <news:LZDjg.70$Kw7.60 [at] news.get2net.dk> "Raven"
<jonlennart.beck.god [at] damn.get2net.that.dk.spam> enriched us with:
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> "Troels Forchhammer" <Troels [at] ThisIsFake.invalid> skrev i en
> meddelelse news:Xns97E1D3904998T.Forch [at] 130.133.1.4...
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>> Synnejysk is just a German dialect;
[...]
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> And Danish as such is not a dialect of German? I bet a student
> of Old Norse would say that Scand is to a large degree just that.
> :-)
Well, if you want to be serious . . .
.. . . then please keep me out of it ;-)
> The softrat possibly would have, without the "to a large degree"
> modifier ---
He probably would at that (but then, by now I've got used to
'furriners' on AFT/RABT knowing more about my own language than do I).
<fond reminiscing snipped -- I miss his comments>
--
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <t.forch(a)email.dk>
The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head.
- /Hogfather/ (Terry Pratchett)
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