| Explanation owed [message #282214] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 01:08 |
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There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before the end of
book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so convinced that Snape was
on the right side. I haven't seen anything in the books worthy of that
trust.
Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really think
Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap this one up.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282218 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 01:27 |
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Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before the end of
> book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so convinced that Snape was
> on the right side. I haven't seen anything in the books worthy of that
> trust.
>
> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really think
> Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap this one up.
>
>
Do you seriously doubt that such a recurring story element wouldn't be
resolved? Unless there's to be sequels.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282244 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 18:54 |
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"Taunto" <nope [at] notme.com> wrote in message
news:4495e13f$0$65463$742ec2ed [at] news.sonic.net...
> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> > There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before the
end of
> > book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so convinced that Snape
was
> > on the right side. I haven't seen anything in the books worthy of that
> > trust.
> >
> > Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really think
> > Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap this one up.
> >
> >
>
> Do you seriously doubt that such a recurring story element wouldn't be
> resolved? Unless there's to be sequels.
And it's spelled "Rowlings."
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282249 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 20:31 |
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Mauro wrote:
>> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>>
>>> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
>>> think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
>>> this one up.
>>
> And it's spelled "Rowlings."
"Rowling". No "s".
And it's pronounced "Rolling".
Catherine Johnson.
--
fenm at cox dot net
"I'm the impish officer of death."
-Mike Nelson, _Mystery Science Theater 3000_.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282251 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 19:39 |
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"Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye [at] deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
news:2bBlg.56$6w.43 [at] fed1read11...
> Mauro wrote:
>
> >> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> >>
> >>> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
> >>> think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
> >>> this one up.
> >>
> > And it's spelled "Rowlings."
>
> "Rowling". No "s".
> And it's pronounced "Rolling".
You are correct, but my spell check doesn't think so :-)
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282254 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 20:35 |
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Mauro wrote:
> "Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye [at] deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
> news:2bBlg.56$6w.43 [at] fed1read11...
> > Mauro wrote:
> >
> > >> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
> > >>> think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
> > >>> this one up.
> > >>
> > > And it's spelled "Rowlings."
> >
> > "Rowling". No "s".
> > And it's pronounced "Rolling".
>
> You are correct, but my spell check doesn't think so :-)
So, your spell-checker accepted Rawlings? As what, small uncooked meat
appetizers?
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282265 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 23:08 |
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Taunto wrote:
> Do you seriously doubt that such a recurring story element wouldn't be
> resolved? Unless there's to be sequels.
As an avowed Harry Potter addict, I wouldn't mind sequels, but there's
always the chance. Believe it? I believe it's POSSIBLE.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282274 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 01:47 |
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Taunto wrote:
> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>> There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before
>> the end of book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so
>> convinced that Snape was on the right side. I haven't seen anything
>> in the books worthy of that trust.
>>
>> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
>> think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
>> this one up.
>
> Do you seriously doubt that such a recurring story element wouldn't be
> resolved? Unless there's to be sequels.
Perhaps there will be a "Silmarillion" type after-book. I, for one, would
like to get some background on how Hermione knew so much about magic
even before her first year, coming as she does from a family of Muggles.
--
Kel
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own."
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282276 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 02:15 |
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drifter wrote:
> Taunto wrote:
>
>>Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>>
>>>There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before
>>>the end of book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so
>>>convinced that Snape was on the right side. I haven't seen anything
>>>in the books worthy of that trust.
>>>
>>>Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
>>>think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
>>>this one up.
>>
>>Do you seriously doubt that such a recurring story element wouldn't be
>>resolved? Unless there's to be sequels.
>
>
> Perhaps there will be a "Silmarillion" type after-book. I, for one, would
> like to get some background on how Hermione knew so much about magic
> even before her first year, coming as she does from a family of Muggles.
>
Nitrous oxide.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282277 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 05:05 |
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I, for one,
>> would
>> like to get some background on how Hermione knew so much about magic
>> even before her first year, coming as she does from a family of Muggles.
>>
>
> Nitrous oxide.
You could assume that her family is the opposite of the magical sort.
And once in while a witch/wixard is born instead of a muggle. Then her
family would have some knowledge of magic. Kinda of a anti-squib sort of
situation.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282278 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 06:33 |
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*MYSTIC* wrote:
> I, for one,
>
>>> would
>>> like to get some background on how Hermione knew so much about magic
>>> even before her first year, coming as she does from a family of Muggles.
>>>
>>
>> Nitrous oxide.
>
> You could assume that her family is the opposite of the magical sort.
> And once in while a witch/wixard is born instead of a muggle.
You mean, completely standard Muggles?
> Then her
> family would have some knowledge of magic.
Why?
> Kinda of a anti-squib sort of
> situation.
As I said--the standard situation for all Muggles.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282284 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 09:53 |
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Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before the end of
> book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so convinced that Snape was
> on the right side.
I suspect that:
1) "Spinners End" was not the first time that Snape participated in an
Unbreakable Vow.
2) Snape will invite himself to Harry's birthday party.
Just my thouts on the matter.
Aloha mai Nai`a
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282287 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 10:33 |
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"duh" <nodamnspamok [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1150742105.435383.5470 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mauro wrote:
>> "Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye [at] deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
>> news:2bBlg.56$6w.43 [at] fed1read11...
>> > Mauro wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
>> > >>> think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
>> > >>> this one up.
>> > >>
>> > > And it's spelled "Rowlings."
>> >
>> > "Rowling". No "s".
>> > And it's pronounced "Rolling".
>>
>> You are correct, but my spell check doesn't think so :-)
>
> So, your spell-checker accepted Rawlings? As what, small uncooked meat
> appetizers?
>
Or an atheletic equipment and apparal manufacturer that specializes in
equipment for the game of baseball.
--
Kilroy was here.
"Always blame it on the guy who doesn't speak English." - Homer Simpson
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282288 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 10:37 |
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"Michael Satterwhite" <satterwh.X$NO$S$PAM [at] weblore.com> wrote in message
news:42llg.9376$vU.8726 [at] tornado.texas.rr.com...
> There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before the end
> of
> book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so convinced that Snape was
> on the right side. I haven't seen anything in the books worthy of that
> trust.
>
> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really think
> Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap this one up.
>
>
What implied contract are we talking about? These are JKR's works, not
ours. She has a right to put whatever she wants into them. Just because
you expect the author to explain something from their books, doesn't mean
he/she has to. It isn't up to us to decide what we need to see in the
books. It is JKR's decision. A lot of people expected Harry and Herminone
to get together, but JKR didn't do that.
That said, yes, she will probably explain why Dumbledore always trusted
Snape, and for the reasons Mauro mentioned.
--
Kilroy was here.
"Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282293 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 14:48 |
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Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> >>> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
> >>> think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
> >>> this one up.
> >>
> > And it's spelled "Rowlings."
>
> "Rowling". No "s".
No, it's "Rollins!" There is no way to verify this! You all must either
take my word for it, or enter into an unsolvable debate!
So, ask yourself: Do you feel lucky, punk?
Well? Do ya? =)
> And it's pronounced "Rolling".
"Rollins." ;)
> Catherine Johnson.
-Aaron
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282307 ] |
Di, 20 Juni 2006 23:12 |
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duh wrote:
> Mauro wrote:
>
>>"Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye [at] deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
>>news:2bBlg.56$6w.43 [at] fed1read11...
>>
>>>Mauro wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
>>>>>>think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
>>>>>>this one up.
>>>>>
>>>>And it's spelled "Rowlings."
>>>
>>>"Rowling". No "s".
>>>And it's pronounced "Rolling".
>>
>>You are correct, but my spell check doesn't think so :-)
>
>
> So, your spell-checker accepted Rawlings? As what, small uncooked meat
> appetizers?
>
Rawlings is a major sporting goods manufacturer in the US
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282312 ] |
Mi, 21 Juni 2006 01:37 |
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Thom Madura wrote:
> duh wrote:
>
>> Mauro wrote:
>>
>>> "Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye [at] deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
>>> news:2bBlg.56$6w.43 [at] fed1read11...
>>>
>>>> Mauro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really
>>>>>>> think Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap
>>>>>>> this one up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> And it's spelled "Rowlings."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rowling". No "s".
>>>> And it's pronounced "Rolling".
>>>
>>>
>>> You are correct, but my spell check doesn't think so :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> So, your spell-checker accepted Rawlings? As what, small uncooked meat
>> appetizers?
>>
> Rawlings is a major sporting goods manufacturer in the US
I still like "finger" food better.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282332 ] |
Mi, 21 Juni 2006 22:25 |
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michael.wise [at] gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> > There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before the end of
> > book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so convinced that Snape was
> > on the right side.
>
> I suspect that:
>
> 1) "Spinners End" was not the first time that Snape participated in an
> Unbreakable Vow.
>
> 2) Snape will invite himself to Harry's birthday party.
I hope this is exactly what happens. I would LOVE to see Snape at the
Dursleys. Something along the lines of RANSON OF RED CHEIF and
ripoffs, where the hostage-taker gets driven insane by his victims.
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #282344 ] |
Do, 22 Juni 2006 05:25 |
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In article <EHGlg.62$jR3.37 [at] fe03.lga>, drifter <never [at] home.net> wrote:
>Taunto wrote:
<snip>
>Perhaps there will be a "Silmarillion" type after-book. I, for one, would
>like to get some background on how Hermione knew so much about magic
>even before her first year, coming as she does from a family of Muggles.
I thought it was stated that she had read - and memorized - all her
textbooks _and_ had read as much background material as she could, so as
to be prepared. Hermione's birthday is in September. If the letter
arrives on the 11th birthday or even before (Harry's letters began
to arrive before his actual 11th birthday), Hermione had nearly a full
year to study.
=Tamar
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| Re: Explanation owed [message #294984 ] |
Sa, 01 Juli 2006 13:26 |
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Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> There are some loose ends that JKR really needs to wrap up before the end of
> book 7. Chief among them is why Dumbledore was so convinced that Snape was
> on the right side. I haven't seen anything in the books worthy of that
> trust.
>
> Any author has an implied contract with his/her readers. I really think
> Rawlings will have cheated the readers if she doesn't wrap this one up.
I agree with that.
--
Richard The Blind Typer
Lets Hear It For Talking Computers.
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