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Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281909] Di, 13 Juni 2006 23:38
John VanSickle  
1. Snape

Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).

Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
first book).

2. Ginny

Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into her,
the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.

Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for Harry
could destroy the soul fragment, however.

Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
surely it would have done something.

Regards,
John
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281914 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 00:26
DUH  
> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
> surely it would have done something.

It gave her breasts.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281916 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 00:40
Thomas Madura  
John VanSickle wrote:

> 1. Snape
>
> Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
> best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>
> Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
> perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
> first book).
>
> 2. Ginny
>
> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into her,
> the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>
> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for Harry
> could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>
> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
> surely it would have done something.
>
> Regards,
> John

Although I never really thought about it much before - we actually have
an example of a Human carrying a major fragment of V's soul. That would
be Quirrel in the first book.

I take note that even though they "shared" a body - their communication
appeared to be vocal - not anything special. It also appears that
Quirrel did not have any of V's powers either - and V needed Quirrel to
go after Harry - because he was not powerful enough to do so AS himself.

If the most major portion of V's soul was unable to have special
communications - and/or tranfer special powers to its holder - one could
think that a lesser fragment would have no better chance of doing so.

However - if you really read the Horcrux chapter again - the discussion
was on making a living thing a Horcrux - which itself was described as a
bad idea - but they never really went so far as to say that a HUMAN
could even be one.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281923 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 02:02
Taunto  
Thom Madura wrote:
> John VanSickle wrote:
>
>> 1. Snape
>>
>> Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
>> best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>>
>> Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
>> perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
>> first book).
>>
>> 2. Ginny
>>
>> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into
>> her, the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>>
>> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
>> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for
>> Harry could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>>
>> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
>> surely it would have done something.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>
>
> Although I never really thought about it much before - we actually have
> an example of a Human carrying a major fragment of V's soul. That would
> be Quirrel in the first book.

Wasn't he carrying Voldemort, the main V?
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281924 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 03:04
mystic  
Thom Madura wrote:
> John VanSickle wrote:
>
>> 1. Snape
>>
>> Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
>> best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>>
>> Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
>> perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
>> first book).
>>
>> 2. Ginny
>>
>> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into
>> her, the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>>
>> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
>> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for
>> Harry could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>>
>> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
>> surely it would have done something.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>
>
> Although I never really thought about it much before - we actually have
> an example of a Human carrying a major fragment of V's soul. That would
> be Quirrel in the first book.
>
> I take note that even though they "shared" a body - their communication
> appeared to be vocal - not anything special. It also appears that
> Quirrel did not have any of V's powers either - and V needed Quirrel to
> go after Harry - because he was not powerful enough to do so AS himself.
>
> If the most major portion of V's soul was unable to have special
> communications - and/or tranfer special powers to its holder - one could
> think that a lesser fragment would have no better chance of doing so.
>
> However - if you really read the Horcrux chapter again - the discussion
> was on making a living thing a Horcrux - which itself was described as a
> bad idea - but they never really went so far as to say that a HUMAN
> could even be one.
I was thinking about the splitting of the soul thing.

Ok the first time the soul is torn/split is it in half?

The next time, assuming a horcrux was made from half, the remaining half
would be split into two....thus quarters of a soul.

If this logic prevails then each time a horcrux is made it is less than
the one before it.

First = 1/2
second = 1/4
third = 1/8
forth = 1/16
fifth = 1/32
sixth = 1/64

Which means Voldomort has been increasingly shrinking that part of his
soul that is within his body. Also it means that the parts of his soul
are stronger the closer they are to the first separtation.

Having the diary and the ring, both rid of his horcruxes would mean that
most of his soul is already destroyed.

If Harry manages to destroy more horcruxes that is even less of
Voldomort's soul left.

It seems while he is still powerful magically.. the peice of voldomort
that keeps him alive is a mere fragment of his original soul.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281925 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 03:53
Thomas Madura  
Taunto wrote:
> Thom Madura wrote:
>
>> John VanSickle wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Snape
>>>
>>> Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
>>> best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>>>
>>> Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
>>> perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
>>> first book).
>>>
>>> 2. Ginny
>>>
>>> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into
>>> her, the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>>>
>>> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
>>> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for
>>> Harry could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>>>
>>> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four
>>> years; surely it would have done something.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> Although I never really thought about it much before - we actually
>> have an example of a Human carrying a major fragment of V's soul. That
>> would be Quirrel in the first book.
>
>
> Wasn't he carrying Voldemort, the main V?


Well - yes - but once a person has split up his soul into fragments for
Horcruxes - the main soul is also a fragment - maybe larger than the
others but still it must smaller than it was before the Horcrux process
started.

AND - if Quirrel did not get any Powers or Communication from the Main
soul fragments of V - why should a SMALLER fragment in a Horcrux pass
powers or communication.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281926 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 03:59
Thomas Madura  
*MYSTIC* wrote:

> Thom Madura wrote:
>
>> John VanSickle wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Snape
>>>
>>> Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
>>> best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>>>
>>> Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
>>> perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
>>> first book).
>>>
>>> 2. Ginny
>>>
>>> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into
>>> her, the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>>>
>>> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
>>> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for
>>> Harry could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>>>
>>> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four
>>> years; surely it would have done something.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> Although I never really thought about it much before - we actually
>> have an example of a Human carrying a major fragment of V's soul. That
>> would be Quirrel in the first book.
>>
>> I take note that even though they "shared" a body - their
>> communication appeared to be vocal - not anything special. It also
>> appears that Quirrel did not have any of V's powers either - and V
>> needed Quirrel to go after Harry - because he was not powerful enough
>> to do so AS himself.
>>
>> If the most major portion of V's soul was unable to have special
>> communications - and/or tranfer special powers to its holder - one
>> could think that a lesser fragment would have no better chance of
>> doing so.
>>
>> However - if you really read the Horcrux chapter again - the
>> discussion was on making a living thing a Horcrux - which itself was
>> described as a bad idea - but they never really went so far as to say
>> that a HUMAN could even be one.
>
> I was thinking about the splitting of the soul thing.
>
> Ok the first time the soul is torn/split is it in half?
>
> The next time, assuming a horcrux was made from half, the remaining half
> would be split into two....thus quarters of a soul.
>
> If this logic prevails then each time a horcrux is made it is less than
> the one before it.
>
> First = 1/2
> second = 1/4
> third = 1/8
> forth = 1/16
> fifth = 1/32
> sixth = 1/64


I am not sure that I agree that a Fragment is Half a soul. However -
even if it is only a small percentage of the soul - the main soul part
is still reduced. In my mind - the Horcrux fragements are ONLY small
portions of the soul - and the main soul remains larger than any other
fragment.


>
> Which means Voldomort has been increasingly shrinking that part of his
> soul that is within his body. Also it means that the parts of his soul
> are stronger the closer they are to the first separtation.
>
> Having the diary and the ring, both rid of his horcruxes would mean that
> most of his soul is already destroyed.

Not most - but at the very least - a part.

>
> If Harry manages to destroy more horcruxes that is even less of
> Voldomort's soul left.

Yes - that is the story line. THe more Horcruxes V made - the less human
he became.


>
> It seems while he is still powerful magically.. the peice of voldomort
> that keeps him alive is a mere fragment of his original soul.


That too is true - although it does not have to be as small as a Horcrux
Fragment to fullfill the requirement. However - if the MAIN soul part
left in V couldn't help Quirrel - with powers or communication - what
makes anyone think a Horcrux portion could do it?
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281927 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 05:48
Imagun Aqilya  
"duh" <nodamnspamok [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1150237606.690571.219150 [at] f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
>> surely it would have done something.
>
> It gave her breasts.
>

That would be more of a whore-crutch.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281928 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 06:17
Christian Winter  
John VanSickle wrote:
> 1. Snape
>
> Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
> best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>
> Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
> perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
> first book).
>
> 2. Ginny
>
> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into her,
> the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>
> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for Harry
> could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>
> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
> surely it would have done something.

If thought long and thoroughly about the human Horcrux theory
when I was working out the plot for my current fanfic, but I
found all the implications that came with it very un-J.K.R.-y.

Even a part of Voldemort's soul would contain so much evil that
it would corrupt any human soul closely exposed to it. So it
couldn't be Ginny, and even after Snape finishing off DD I'm not
really sure he's switched sides again. First the blood oath so
early in the book and then DD freezing Harry are signs that let
me think there is/was something else going on.

I also think that either DD or Madam Pomfrey would have sensed
if someone carried such a dark piece of soul with him.

But that's of course only my opinion, and I believe the only
proof of whether there is such a thing as a human Horcrux will
be reading book 7 :)

Best Greetings
-Chris

--
Harry Potter and the Fifth Soul
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2737784/1/
PostHBP FanFic, Chapter 12 now online
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281931 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 07:05
DUH  
Imagun Aqilya wrote:
> "duh" <nodamnspamok [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1150237606.690571.219150 [at] f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>>Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
>>>surely it would have done something.
>>
>>It gave her breasts.
>>
>
>
> That would be more of a whore-crutch.
>
>

Only for trans-sexuals.

--
-------------------------
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Dance like you've never been hurt, and
Love like you don't need the money"

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Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281936 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 09:39
Toon  
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:38:05 GMT, John VanSickle
<evilsnack [at] earthlink.net> wrote:

>1. Snape
>
>Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
>best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>
>Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
>perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
>first book).
>
>2. Ginny
>
>Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into her,
>the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>
>Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
>sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for Harry
>could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>
>Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
>surely it would have done something.
>
>Regards,
>John

Made out with a lot of guys? Gay Voldemort anyone?

I doubt he'd willingly make any human a horcrux. Well, maybe Nicholas
Flamel, since he didn't want to die prior to Book 1.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281937 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 09:40
Toon  
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:02:40 -0700, Taunto <nope [at] notme.com> wrote:

>Thom Madura wrote:
>> John VanSickle wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Snape
>>>
>>> Pro: Has the most smarts of any Death Eater, and consequently is the
>>> best at self-preservation (a highly desireable trait for any Horcrux).
>>>
>>> Con: Requires that Snape not know he's a Horcrux, in order to be
>>> perfectly consonant with his behavior in the series (especially the
>>> first book).
>>>
>>> 2. Ginny
>>>
>>> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into
>>> her, the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>>>
>>> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
>>> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for
>>> Harry could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>>>
>>> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
>>> surely it would have done something.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>
>>
>> Although I never really thought about it much before - we actually have
>> an example of a Human carrying a major fragment of V's soul. That would
>> be Quirrel in the first book.
>
>Wasn't he carrying Voldemort, the main V?

Yes, and he was possessed and merged.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #281938 ] Mi, 14 Juni 2006 09:43
Toon  
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:17:18 +0200, Christian Winter
<thepoet_nospam [at] arcor.de> wrote:

>Even a part of Voldemort's soul would contain so much evil that
>it would corrupt any human soul closely exposed to it.

Unless they're protected by the ultimate expression of love (self
sacrifice), in which case Harry purifies the Soul Bit. Which if
remerged with the Master Soul would finish Voldemort off permanently.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282011 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 01:19
Markku Uttula  
John VanSickle wrote:
> 2. Ginny
>
> Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into
> her, the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>
> Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
> sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for
> Harry could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>
> Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
> surely it would have done something.

I read this post yesterday morning, and am still trying to find evidence
to either support it or completely undermine it. So far I've had no luck
in either. And I usually don't spend this much time (amidst of working
and living, of course) on anything.

Damn you, never do that again :)

I actually started to ponder about the possibility because after things
that took place in CoS, we've seen interesting and character development
on Ginny that could indeed be caused by being possessed by a teeny weeny
soul fragment of Voldykins... hexing people here and there, being nasty,
being cunning, being active in the dating scene... then again, none of
that doesn't seem too much like something that'd come too unnaturally
for someone coming from the Weasley family :)

On a sidenote; this seems to be my first posting since... umm - some
time after HBP came out. Hi to all! (again)

--
Markku Uttula
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282019 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 02:22
Thomas Madura  
Markku Uttula wrote:

> John VanSickle wrote:
>
>>2. Ginny
>>
>>Pro: We need only speculate that when Ginny's life went back into
>>her, the fragment in the Riddle diary went with it.
>>
>>Pro: Harry would be put in the position of having to choose between
>>sparing Ginny or destroying V. It could be that Ginny's love for
>>Harry could destroy the soul fragment, however.
>>
>>Con: This fragment has been awfully inactive for the past four years;
>>surely it would have done something.
>
>
> I read this post yesterday morning, and am still trying to find evidence
> to either support it or completely undermine it. So far I've had no luck
> in either. And I usually don't spend this much time (amidst of working
> and living, of course) on anything.
>
> Damn you, never do that again :)
>
> I actually started to ponder about the possibility because after things
> that took place in CoS, we've seen interesting and character development
> on Ginny that could indeed be caused by being possessed by a teeny weeny
> soul fragment of Voldykins... hexing people here and there, being nasty,
> being cunning, being active in the dating scene... then again, none of
> that doesn't seem too much like something that'd come too unnaturally
> for someone coming from the Weasley family :)
>
> On a sidenote; this seems to be my first posting since... umm - some
> time after HBP came out. Hi to all! (again)
>


The problem with this Theory (Ginny is a Horcrux) - is proximity. WE
know that the Diary WAS a Horcrux and that Harry destroyed that Horcrux
by destroying the diary. At that time - GInny could not have been a
Horcrux - since Diary Tom Riddle was trying to kill her to take her life
force and return. He would not have tried to kill his own Horcrux.

Since that time - (Or even before that time for that matter) - V and
Ginny have never been together long enough for him to make her a Horcrux.

In the end - I believe that there will be NO human horcrux - noting that
Slughorn said that a living thing would not make a good horcrux -
implying even an animal is not the best choice. A human would make a far
worse choice.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282040 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 07:07
Toon  
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:19:56 +0300, "Markku Uttula"
<markku.uttula [at] disconova.com> wrote:

>being active in the dating scene

Sicne when did Tommy Boy ever date?
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282052 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 12:49
Markku Uttula  
Toon wrote:
>> being active in the dating scene
>
> Sicne when did Tommy Boy ever date?

Well, there's dating and there's "dating" :-p

"If I say it myself, Harry, I've always been able to charm the people I
needed." ... yep, not a pretty picture, but not far from thinking
Voldypants as tommyboy :)

--
Markku Uttula
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282053 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 12:54
Markku Uttula  
Thom Madura wrote:
> The problem with this Theory (Ginny is a Horcrux) - is proximity. WE
> know that the Diary WAS a Horcrux and that Harry destroyed that
> Horcrux by destroying the diary. At that time - GInny could not have
> been a Horcrux - since Diary Tom Riddle was trying to kill her to
> take her life force and return. He would not have tried to kill his
> own Horcrux.

"Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to
be exactly what I wanted ... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of
her deepest fears, her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more
powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding
Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul
back into her..."

At this time, of course we didn't know about Horcruxes, but to me
"pouring my soul back into her" sure sounds a lot like making one.

--
Markku Uttula
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282062 ] Fr, 16 Juni 2006 16:11
Thomas Madura  
Markku Uttula wrote:

> Thom Madura wrote:
>
>>The problem with this Theory (Ginny is a Horcrux) - is proximity. WE
>>know that the Diary WAS a Horcrux and that Harry destroyed that
>>Horcrux by destroying the diary. At that time - GInny could not have
>>been a Horcrux - since Diary Tom Riddle was trying to kill her to
>>take her life force and return. He would not have tried to kill his
>>own Horcrux.
>
>
> "Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to
> be exactly what I wanted ... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of
> her deepest fears, her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more
> powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding
> Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul
> back into her..."
>
> At this time, of course we didn't know about Horcruxes, but to me
> "pouring my soul back into her" sure sounds a lot like making one.
>


Well - in the context of the quotes - and the context of the Diary -
this is clearly about what GINNY wrote into the diary and how Riddle
answered. However - there is still no basis in the books for the ability
of a memory to have a soul (Which is at least part of what Diary Tom
Riddle was).


However - There exists no murder in the books that Diary Tom Riddle
performed - so even if he had a soul - it could not have been fragmented
in order to make a horcrux. That eliminates that theory
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282109 ] Sa, 17 Juni 2006 09:55
Toon  
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:54:55 +0300, "Markku Uttula"
<markku.uttula [at] disconova.com> wrote:

>Thom Madura wrote:
>> The problem with this Theory (Ginny is a Horcrux) - is proximity. WE
>> know that the Diary WAS a Horcrux and that Harry destroyed that
>> Horcrux by destroying the diary. At that time - GInny could not have
>> been a Horcrux - since Diary Tom Riddle was trying to kill her to
>> take her life force and return. He would not have tried to kill his
>> own Horcrux.
>
>"Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to
>be exactly what I wanted ... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of
>her deepest fears, her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more
>powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding
>Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul
>back into her..."
>
>At this time, of course we didn't know about Horcruxes, but to me
>"pouring my soul back into her" sure sounds a lot like making one.

Sounds like a slow possession to me. Mildly influencing here and
there. Interesting Dairy Tom thinks he's whole, though.
Re: Better Candidates for Human Horcruces [message #282157 ] Sa, 17 Juni 2006 22:29
Thomas Madura  
Toon wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:54:55 +0300, "Markku Uttula"
> <markku.uttula [at] disconova.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Thom Madura wrote:
>>
>>>The problem with this Theory (Ginny is a Horcrux) - is proximity. WE
>>>know that the Diary WAS a Horcrux and that Harry destroyed that
>>>Horcrux by destroying the diary. At that time - GInny could not have
>>>been a Horcrux - since Diary Tom Riddle was trying to kill her to
>>>take her life force and return. He would not have tried to kill his
>>>own Horcrux.
>>
>>"Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to
>>be exactly what I wanted ... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of
>>her deepest fears, her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more
>>powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding
>>Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul
>>back into her..."
>>
>>At this time, of course we didn't know about Horcruxes, but to me
>>"pouring my soul back into her" sure sounds a lot like making one.
>
>
> Sounds like a slow possession to me. Mildly influencing here and
> there. Interesting Dairy Tom thinks he's whole, though.


Actually close - he knows that when Ginny dies he will return.
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