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Fantasy » alt.fan.harry-potter » Seven for Seven
| Seven for Seven [message #281458] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 05:21 |
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Predictions for Book 7
1. Family Ties
There will be a reckoning with the Dursleys. Harry cannot just pack his
trunk and leave Privet Drive. The Bond of Blood is a deep and ancient
magic. Something nasty is going to happen to Vernon,Dudley or both. As a
result, Harry will understand the sacrifice that Petunia made in taking
him in and
Petunia will realize Harry’s true worth.
2. Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?
Ron and Hermione will declare their love for one another, but their
problems will not be over. They will find that the Weasley’s have not
stayed a pure-blood family by accident. Even Arthur’s love of Muggles
has limits. There will be a happy ending.
3. Red Death
One of the younger Weasley’s will die. There is a war on and in war
young people are killed. The most likely candidate is either Fred or
George. Ron and Ginny are too close to Harry. Bill and Charlie are not
close enough. Percy is too obvious.
4. The Passion of Snape
Snape is evil but not beyond redemption. Showing Snape to be
unequivocally good would require some excessively complicated plot
twists to explain Book 6. On the other hand, his conduct is equally hard
to reconcile with his being a loyal follower of Voldemort. The truth, we
will see, is that Snape is loyal to no one and has been pursuing his own
personal agenda of glory and revenge. He will see the error of his ways
and sacrifice himself to assist Harry. His death will teach Harry and
Draco an important lesson and bring them together as friends.
5. Back to School
Harry will return to Hogwarts for his final year. He will realize that
he is still a young man with a lot to learn. Besides, if Hogwarts closed
it would be a victory for Voldemort. McGonagall will make him Head Boy
and an assistant to the new Defence Against Dark Arts teacher.
6. Talkin’ ‘bout Revolution
There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
world. Wizard society is rife with injustice: House-Elf slavery,
discrimination against Goblins, persecution of Werewolves, Pure-Blood
prejudice, imprisonment without trial, use of the Dementors as prison
guards. In order to defeat Voldemort, Wizard-kind will have to reform
the social conditions and attitudes that made his rise possible.
7. Life Goes On
Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
Against Dark Arts teacher. Hermione will become a Healer. This will
please her parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard
society. Ginny will become a professional Quidditch player and will be
much envied by Ron who will follow his father into a minor position in
the Ministry of Magic.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281463 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 05:59 |
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In article <eDrhg.249916$7a.61733 [at] pd7tw1no>,
Paracelsus <petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote:
>Predictions for Book 7
>
>1. Family Ties
>
>There will be a reckoning with the Dursleys. Harry cannot just pack his
>trunk and leave Privet Drive. The Bond of Blood is a deep and ancient
>magic. Something nasty is going to happen to Vernon, Dudley or both. As a
>result, Harry will understand the sacrifice that Petunia made in taking
>him in and Petunia will realize Harry'€™s true worth.
50-50. It won't be a simple "goodbye and good riddance", because there
has to be some reason Dumbledore carefully made sure they knew about
Number Twelve. I doubt that Petunia will ever value Harry, though Harry
may realize, too late, that Petunia did make a sacrifice.
>2. Guess Who'€™s Coming to Dinner?
>
>Ron and Hermione will declare their love for one another, but their
>problems will not be over. They will find that the Weasley'€™s have not
>stayed a pure-blood family by accident. Even Arthur'€™s love of Muggles
>has limits.
Not likely. There may be some relatives who refuse to attend any of
the weddings - an almost-werewolf? Two muggle-borns? - they don't speak
about the accountant cousin much, but Ron does know he exists and hasn't
been taught to keep it quiet.
>3. Red Death
>
>One of the younger Weasley€™s will die
Almost 100% certain. Possibly transformed into something.
>4. The Passion of Snape
<snip>
> The truth, we will see, is that Snape is loyal to no one and
> has been pursuing his own personal agenda of glory and revenge.
Likely.
> He will see the error of his ways and sacrifice himself to assist
> Harry.
Most unlikely, IMO. I think he will be driven to some kind of sacrifice,
probably by a combination of two conflicting magical requirements.
If he is stuck in a situation where no matter what he does, he dies,
he may choose to help Harry. I think Snape's agenda is to destroy
Voldemort, for reasons of his own.
> His death will teach Harry and Draco an important lesson
>and bring them together as friends.
Disagree.
>5. Back to School
>
>Harry will return to Hogwarts for his final year. He will realize that
>he is still a young man with a lot to learn.
I think he will return, but only for part of the year, to study certain
very specific topics with certain teachers, and that's only if Voldemort
doesn't manage to take over the school.
> Besides, if Hogwarts closed
>it would be a victory for Voldemort. McGonagall will make him Head Boy
>and an assistant to the new Defence Against Dark Arts teacher.
Very unlikely.
>6. Talkin'€'€˜bout Revolution
>
>There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
>world. Wizard society is rife with injustice
<snip>
>In order to defeat Voldemort, Wizard-kind will have to reform
>the social conditions and attitudes that made his rise possible.
Not likely. I do think the Hogwarts house elves will be freed,
probably by McGonagall when she realizes Voldemort is about to take
over, using Hermione's knitting that has been stashed by Dobby. But
that freedom will only be accepted as a sad duty by the Hogwarts
house elves, and they will hope to be taken back after all is solved.
>7. Life Goes On
>
>Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
>Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
>story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
>main characters become.
I hope so, but I'm not making any bets on it.
=Tamar
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281475 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 10:15 |
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 03:21:46 GMT, Paracelsus
<petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote:
>6. Talkin’ ‘bout Revolution
>
>There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
>world. Wizard society is rife with injustice: House-Elf slavery,
>discrimination against Goblins, persecution of Werewolves, Pure-Blood
>prejudice, imprisonment without trial, use of the Dementors as prison
>guards. In order to defeat Voldemort, Wizard-kind will have to reform
>he social conditions and attitudes that made his rise possible.
The Elves want to be enslaved. The injustice is their treatment as
slaves.
>7. Life Goes On
>
>Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
>Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
>story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
>main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
>wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
>Against Dark Arts teacher. Hermione will become a Healer. This will
>please her parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard
>society. Ginny will become a professional Quidditch player and will be
>much envied by Ron who will follow his father into a minor position in
>the Ministry of Magic.
Harry does not ever become a teacher. Why don't people ever believe
JK?
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281476 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 10:18 |
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 03:59:47 -0000, dicconf [at] radix.net (Richard Eney)
wrote:
>and that's only if Voldemort
>doesn't manage to take over the school.
So far, he has shown no desire to do this. His job was for another
reason, something horcrux related. Quirrellmort was to get the Stone.
The DE invasion was to kill DD, and maybe some Phoenixes too. Nothing
has been to take over the school, destroy it, etc.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281493 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 20:54 |
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"Paracelsus" <petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:eDrhg.249916$7a.61733 [at] pd7tw1no...
> Predictions for Book 7
>
> 1. Family Ties
>
> There will be a reckoning with the Dursleys. Harry cannot just pack his
> trunk and leave Privet Drive. The Bond of Blood is a deep and ancient
> magic. Something nasty is going to happen to Vernon,Dudley or both. As a
> result, Harry will understand the sacrifice that Petunia made in taking
> him in and
> Petunia will realize Harry's true worth.
Agree something has to happen with the Dursleys before Harry leaves them for
good.
>
> 2. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
>
> Ron and Hermione will declare their love for one another, but their
> problems will not be over. They will find that the Weasley's have not
> stayed a pure-blood family by accident. Even Arthur's love of Muggles has
> limits. There will be a happy ending.
Arthur no mrs weasley maybe but I dont think she will have much of a problem
but I think she is going to disaprove of the lovely young girl who thinks
George and Freds magic tricks are just like magic.
>
> 3. Red Death
>
> One of the younger Weasley's will die. There is a war on and in war young
> people are killed. The most likely candidate is either Fred or George. Ron
> and Ginny are too close to Harry. Bill and Charlie are not close enough.
> Percy is too obvious.
I vote for Percy dying.
>
> 4. The Passion of Snape
>
> Snape is evil but not beyond redemption. Showing Snape to be unequivocally
> good would require some excessively complicated plot twists to explain
> Book 6. On the other hand, his conduct is equally hard to reconcile with
> his being a loyal follower of Voldemort. The truth, we will see, is that
> Snape is loyal to no one and has been pursuing his own personal agenda of
> glory and revenge. He will see the error of his ways and sacrifice himself
> to assist Harry. His death will teach Harry and Draco an important lesson
> and bring them together as friends.
Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he may be
Malfoy's dad.
>
> 5. Back to School
>
> Harry will return to Hogwarts for his final year. He will realize that he
> is still a young man with a lot to learn. Besides, if Hogwarts closed it
> would be a victory for Voldemort. McGonagall will make him Head Boy and an
> assistant to the new Defence Against Dark Arts teacher.
I cant imagine Harry Potter without hogwarts coming in somewhere.
>
> 6. Talkin' 'bout Revolution
>
> There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical world.
> Wizard society is rife with injustice: House-Elf slavery, discrimination
> against Goblins, persecution of Werewolves, Pure-Blood prejudice,
> imprisonment without trial, use of the Dementors as prison guards. In
> order to defeat Voldemort, Wizard-kind will have to reform the social
> conditions and attitudes that made his rise possible.
too much too soon, maybe in a grown up Hermione chapter after the dark lord
has been defeated.
>
> 7. Life Goes On
>
> Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
> Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
> story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the main
> characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his wounds,
> travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence Against
> Dark Arts teacher. Hermione will become a Healer. This will please her
> parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard society. Ginny
> will become a professional Quidditch player and will be much envied by Ron
> who will follow his father into a minor position in the Ministry of Magic.
I think JK has already told us that Harry does not have the personality to
teach but then he did teach the DA?????
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281496 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 23:40 |
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Dwayne & Angela wrote:
> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
> may be Malfoy's dad.
....which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost identical
to each other...
Honestly, people, stop.
Catherine Johnson.
--
fenm at cox dot net
"At least some oboe player got a paycheck out of all this horse hockey..."
-Mike Nelson, _Mystery Science Theater 3000_.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281498 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:02 |
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Paracelsus wrote:
> Predictions for Book 7
>
> 1. Family Ties
>
> There will be a reckoning with the Dursleys. Harry cannot just pack his
> trunk and leave Privet Drive. The Bond of Blood is a deep and ancient
> magic. Something nasty is going to happen to Vernon,Dudley or both. As a
> result, Harry will understand the sacrifice that Petunia made in taking
> him in and
> Petunia will realize Harry's true worth.
Never. Certainly she could never forgive him if anything happened to
her husband or son. Hopefully that won't happen. I suspect what
happens will be that poor Harry will find out that his mother wasn't a
very nice person when she was a little girl, and that Petunia has some
reason for her hostility. Like I pointed out a while back, I suspect
that the nasty tricks played on Dudley by Harry's friends might be
similar to what Lily's friends (James) did to Petunia back when the
Evans girls were growing up.
> 2. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
>
> Ron and Hermione will declare their love for one another, but their
> problems will not be over. They will find that the Weasley's have not
> stayed a pure-blood family by accident. Even Arthur's love of Muggles
> has limits. There will be a happy ending.
It's been done with Fleur and Bill already. I really don't think
marriage is going to come up. There is plenty of Weasley-drama on the
plate for next book without Ron and Hermy making any announcements.
> 3. Red Death
>
> One of the younger Weasley's will die.
Agreed. That's the problem with having seven children. Statistically
speaking, one of them is bound to bite it.
> 4. The Passion of Snape
>
> Snape is evil but not beyond redemption. Showing Snape to be
> unequivocally good would require some excessively complicated plot
> twists to explain Book 6. On the other hand, his conduct is equally hard
> to reconcile with his being a loyal follower of Voldemort. The truth, we
> will see, is that Snape is loyal to no one and has been pursuing his own
> personal agenda of glory and revenge. He will see the error of his ways
> and sacrifice himself to assist Harry.
Does anyone else find "Snape out for himself" to be the most
implausible of ideas ever? There is nothing in his character which
suggests this. He has always wanted recognition for his achievements.
We see this in the way he reacts to flattery and seeks advancement. It
is recognition from others that he wants. Respect, in short. He is
not a self-contained sociopath who wants power for it's own sake, or
would be content with such a thing. Or would know what to do with it
if he had it.
>His death will teach Harry and
> Draco an important lesson and bring them together as friends.
Far too late for that, I'm afraid. Unless you define "friends" as
"people who reluctantly concede that trying to kill eachother is not in
anybody's best interests".
> 7. Life Goes On
>
> Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
> Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
> story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
> main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
> wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
> Against Dark Arts teacher.
I really don't see Harry as a teacher. He will become an auror, if he
lives. He *might* even go into politics.
>Hermione will become a Healer. This will
> please her parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard
> society.
I don't see it somehow. Her studies of Runes and Arithmancy (her
favorite subject) don't seem quite applicable to Healer. She will
doubtless pursue some advanced magical degree somewhere, and end up
finding a way to break that horrible House-Elf enchantment.
>Ginny will become a professional Quidditch player
Assuming she lives, I doubt it. Nobody has indicated that she is THAT
good.
>and will be
> much envied by Ron who will follow his father into a minor position in
> the Ministry of Magic.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281499 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:07 |
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Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>
> > Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
> > may be Malfoy's dad.
>
> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost identical
> to each other...
> Honestly, people, stop.
It would be funny to see them try to make this plausible in the film
version. Maybe a scene where Narcissa reveals that she had little
Draco transfigured to conceal her guilt, and turns poor Tom Felton back
into some scrawny dark-haired mini-Alan-Rickman at the end. The
Horror!
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281504 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 02:02 |
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Karnak17 wrote:
> Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
>> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>>
>>> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
>>> may be Malfoy's dad.
>>
>> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking
>> almost identical to each other...
>> Honestly, people, stop.
>
> It would be funny to see them try to make this plausible in the film
> version. Maybe a scene where Narcissa reveals that she had little
> Draco transfigured to conceal her guilt, and turns poor Tom Felton
> back into some scrawny dark-haired mini-Alan-Rickman at the end.
> The Horror!
LOL! Damn, that would *almost* make it worth it for this to be true.
Almost.
Catherine Johnson.
--
fenm at cox dot net
"The corpse's bitter crimson tears flow and mingle with the endless sand,
feeding the chaos within me and making me stronger."
-Gaara, _Naruto_.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281512 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 03:06 |
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Paracelsus wrote:
> Predictions for Book 7
>
> 1. Family Ties
>
> There will be a reckoning with the Dursleys. Harry cannot just pack his
> trunk and leave Privet Drive. The Bond of Blood is a deep and ancient
> magic. Something nasty is going to happen to Vernon,Dudley or both. As a
> result, Harry will understand the sacrifice that Petunia made in taking
> him in and
> Petunia will realize Harry's true worth.
Agreed. JKR has to do something to put closure on this situation.
Harry has to have some positive feelings about Petunia by the end of
the book.
>
> 2. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
>
> Ron and Hermione will declare their love for one another, but their
> problems will not be over. They will find that the Weasley's have not
> stayed a pure-blood family by accident. Even Arthur's love of Muggles
> has limits. There will be a happy ending.
>
I doubt it.
> 3. Red Death
>
> One of the younger Weasley's will die. There is a war on and in war
> young people are killed. The most likely candidate is either Fred or
> George. Ron and Ginny are too close to Harry. Bill and Charlie are not
> close enough. Percy is too obvious.
>
My thoughts exactly.
> 4. The Passion of Snape
>
> Snape is evil but not beyond redemption. Showing Snape to be
> unequivocally good would require some excessively complicated plot
> twists to explain Book 6. On the other hand, his conduct is equally hard
> to reconcile with his being a loyal follower of Voldemort. The truth, we
> will see, is that Snape is loyal to no one and has been pursuing his own
> personal agenda of glory and revenge. He will see the error of his ways
> and sacrifice himself to assist Harry. His death will teach Harry and
> Draco an important lesson and bring them together as friends.
>
I've always thought that Snape has his own plan and he went along with
DD all along because their plans matched.
I can't see Harry and Draco as friends but I can see them making a
truce with each other and working together. I doubt they'll ever like
each other but they may learn to tolerate each other.
> 5. Back to School
>
> Harry will return to Hogwarts for his final year. He will realize that
> he is still a young man with a lot to learn. Besides, if Hogwarts closed
> it would be a victory for Voldemort. McGonagall will make him Head Boy
> and an assistant to the new Defence Against Dark Arts teacher.
>
Something has to happen at Hogwarts. It's almost like a character. I
doubt he'll be Head Boy. He wasn't made a prefect and he's got a lot
more responibility this year. He's going to have to leave the castle
at times during the semester and it would be a lot easier if he didn't
have any extra responsibilites.
> 6. Talkin' 'bout Revolution
>
> There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
> world. Wizard society is rife with injustice: House-Elf slavery,
> discrimination against Goblins, persecution of Werewolves, Pure-Blood
> prejudice, imprisonment without trial, use of the Dementors as prison
> guards. In order to defeat Voldemort, Wizard-kind will have to reform
> the social conditions and attitudes that made his rise possible.
>
Too much to do in one book. I can see new laws about the handling of
House-Elfs. Like they have the right to break their contract if their
master if very abusive and they must have some token pay.
> 7. Life Goes On
>
> Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
> Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
> story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
> main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
> wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
> Against Dark Arts teacher. Hermione will become a Healer. This will
> please her parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard
> society. Ginny will become a professional Quidditch player and will be
> much envied by Ron who will follow his father into a minor position in
> the Ministry of Magic.
I'd like to see an index like in the Lord of the Rings explaining what
happens to each character after the book ends.
JKR says she'll never write a new HP book but I could see her
organizing and releasing her notes about the HP world, especially if
she does it for charity.
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Karnak17 wrote:
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cite="mid1149710526.504665.314420 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com"
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<pre wrap="">Paracelsus wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Predictions for Book 7
1. Family Ties
There will be a reckoning with the Dursleys. Harry cannot just pack his
trunk and leave Privet Drive. The Bond of Blood is a deep and ancient
magic. Something nasty is going to happen to Vernon,Dudley or both. As a
result, Harry will understand the sacrifice that Petunia made in taking
him in and
Petunia will realize Harry's true worth.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
Never. Certainly she could never forgive him if anything happened to
her husband or son. Hopefully that won't happen. I suspect what
happens will be that poor Harry will find out that his mother wasn't a
very nice person when she was a little girl, and that Petunia has some
reason for her hostility. Like I pointed out a while back, I suspect
that the nasty tricks played on Dudley by Harry's friends might be
similar to what Lily's friends (James) did to Petunia back when the
Evans girls were growing up.
</pre>
</blockquote>
The crisis will be triggered by Vernon or Dudley. Harry will not be to
blame.<br>
<br>
I can't see Lily sitting still and letting her sister be bullied.
Furthermore, Lily didn't start going out with James until after he had
reformed and given up bullying. Would any boy really be stupid enough
to visit the home of the girl he loves and play as nasty trick on her
sister?<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid1149710526.504665.314420 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">2. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
Ron and Hermione will declare their love for one another, but their
problems will not be over. They will find that the Weasley's have not
stayed a pure-blood family by accident. Even Arthur's love of Muggles
has limits. There will be a happy ending.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
It's been done with Fleur and Bill already. I really don't think
marriage is going to come up. There is plenty of Weasley-drama on the
plate for next book without Ron and Hermy making any announcements.
</pre>
</blockquote>
This will be different. It will be played more for laughs and the main
source of antagonism will be Arthur and not Molly. Arthur's love of
muggles and fascination with muggle technology has been a running gag
in the books. We will see that his real attitude is like that of a
liberal minded civil servant of the British Empire towards "the
natives." He regards them with a paternalistic interest but has
trouble accepting them as equals.<br>
<br>
<snip><br>
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type="cite">
<pre wrap=""><snip>
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">7. Life Goes On
Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
Against Dark Arts teacher.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
I really don't see Harry as a teacher. He will become an auror, if he
lives. He *might* even go into politics.
</pre>
</blockquote>
I can't see Harry as a politician. He's too impulsive. On the other
hand, he has shown some definite talent at teaching. <br>
<br>
Auror is currently Harry's career of choice but I don't see JK Rowling
leaving him there. It would leave open the possibility of further
adventures and, after defeating Voldemort, anything else will be an
anti-climax. <br>
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 03:21:46 GMT, Paracelsus
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca"><petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">7. Life Goes On
Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
Against Dark Arts teacher. Hermione will become a Healer. This will
please her parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard
society. Ginny will become a professional Quidditch player and will be
much envied by Ron who will follow his father into a minor position in
the Ministry of Magic.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
Harry does not ever become a teacher. Why don't people ever believe
JK?
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I checked for the quote at a reference site and found that she had said
that Harry would not become Headmaster. In any event, its unlikely
that JK keeps track of everything she says in interviews when she
writes. <br>
<br>
One thing JK has said many times is that Book 7 will be the last book.
That means that she has to leave Harry in a career that is satisfying,
familiar and uneventful. It would be very frustrating to be told that
Harry had a long an exciting career as an Auror and never learn
anything more. It would be equally frustrating to imagine him stuck at
a desk job in the Ministry. Returning him to the familiar world of
Hogwarts, the first place he was really happy, strikes me as the best
way to round out the series.<br>
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281517 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 03:42 |
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Paracelsus wrote:
> Toon wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 03:21:46 GMT, Paracelsus
>><petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>7. Life Goes On
>>>
>>>Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
>>>Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
>>>story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
>>>main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
>>>wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
>>>Against Dark Arts teacher. Hermione will become a Healer. This will
>>>please her parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard
>>>society. Ginny will become a professional Quidditch player and will be
>>>much envied by Ron who will follow his father into a minor position in
>>>the Ministry of Magic.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Harry does not ever become a teacher. Why don't people ever believe
>>JK?
>>
>>
> I checked for the quote at a reference site and found that she had said that
> Harry would not become Headmaster. In any event, its unlikely that JK keeps
> track of everything she says in interviews when she writes.
>
> One thing JK has said many times is that Book 7 will be the last book. That
> means that she has to leave Harry in a career that is satisfying, familiar and
> uneventful.
Or dead.
Dance like you've never been hurt, and
Love like you don't need the money"
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281519 ] |
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Karnak17 wrote:
> Does anyone else find "Snape out for himself" to be the most
> implausible of ideas ever? There is nothing in his character which
> suggests this. He has always wanted recognition for his achievements.
> We see this in the way he reacts to flattery and seeks advancement. It
> is recognition from others that he wants. Respect, in short. He is
> not a self-contained sociopath who wants power for it's own sake, or
> would be content with such a thing. Or would know what to do with it
> if he had it.
Just imagine the fame for Snape if he somehow manages to be there when Harry
kills V, to then kill his hated Harry, claiming that he was the one
defeating V.
He certainly has the info (heard the prophecy) and maybe the cool blood to
wait for years and to kill a boy.
Alas, what would we Snape fans do if he turns to be a child killer?
--
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Jano wrote:
> Just imagine the fame for Snape if he somehow manages to be
> there when Harry kills V, to then kill his hated Harry, claiming
> that he was the one defeating V.
> He certainly has the info (heard the prophecy) and maybe the
> cool blood to wait for years and to kill a boy.
> Alas, what would we Snape fans do if he turns to be a child
> killer?
How would killing a 17-year-old make him a "child killer"?
Catherine Johnson.
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in just a second."
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281528 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 08:47 |
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Catherine Johnson wrote:
> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
>> may be Malfoy's dad.
> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost
> identical to each other... Honestly, people, stop.
Draco's birth mother could've been Lucius's twin sister.
Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281529 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 08:48 |
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Tamar RE wrote:
> Peter Sim wrote:
>> Predictions for Book 7
>> 5. Back to School
>> Harry will return to Hogwarts for his final year. He will realize that
>> he is still a young man with a lot to learn.
> I think he will return, but only for part of the year, to study certain
> very specific topics with certain teachers, and that's only if Voldemort
> doesn't manage to take over the school.
I think it's more likely that Ron will forsake Harry after his Head Boy
badge arrives, while Hermione sacrifices her Head Girl badge to go on the
hunt for the Horcruxes. Due to Harry's absence, Ron will become Captain
of the Quidditch team, and the Mirror of Erised will be proved correct.
Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281539 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 09:42 |
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On 7 Jun 2006 13:02:06 -0700, "Karnak17" <karnak17 [at] cs.com> wrote:
>
>Does anyone else find "Snape out for himself" to be the most
>implausible of ideas ever? There is nothing in his character which
>suggests this. He has always wanted recognition for his achievements.
>We see this in the way he reacts to flattery and seeks advancement. It
>is recognition from others that he wants. Respect, in short. He is
>not a self-contained sociopath who wants power for it's own sake, or
>would be content with such a thing. Or would know what to do with it
>if he had it.
Nope, never saw where this theory came from. Never saw where he's the
next powerful after Dd/V. Never evens aw Lucius' desire to rule the
DE's. In fact, I've mentioned quite a few times shock that he or
another never took over the reigns the night V died.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281540 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 09:44 |
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:42:50 -0700, duh <nosoupforU [at] yoohoo.com> wrote:
>> I checked for the quote at a reference site and found that she had said that
>> Harry would not become Headmaster. In any event, its unlikely that JK keeps
>> track of everything she says in interviews when she writes.
No, but she does keep track of the main things she writes in
interviews. Ages, numbers in gerenal, like that no, but Harry's
future, yes.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281545 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 10:05 |
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Paracelsus wrote:
> Predictions for Book 7
interesting, but...
>
> 1. Family Ties
>
> There will be a reckoning with the Dursleys.
My guess is that in the showdown with Voldy, something important turns
on Vernon Dursley giving at least grudging approval to Harry, and that
he does.
> 2. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?
>
> Ron and Hermione will declare their love for one another,
I hope you are wrong. A major theme is Harry's trying to live up to
his father's standards. While Ginny is nice and perky, I just don't
see her as having the spitfire personality we saw in Snape's memories
(HP5). Only Hermy is up to the Lily standard.
> 3. Red Death
>
> One of the younger Weasley's will die. There is a war on and in war
> young people are killed.
So are old people. It could be a Weasly parent.
>
> 4. The Passion of Snape
>
> Snape is evil but not beyond redemption.
Of the evil/not evil positions I find this one the least defensible.
If you think Snape is evil then he is guilty of first degree murder,
not to mention the assination of a leading public figure. He's Lee
Harvey Oswald. Redemption?
>
> 5. Back to School
>
> Harry will return to Hogwarts for his final year.
I wish you were right but I wouldn't bet a knut on it.
> 6. Talkin' 'bout Revolution
>
> There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
> world.
It can't be too major. Rowling has sold several thousand (rumors are
even more!) books mostly in the premise "imagine youself living in this
better, more interesting world". Major revisions undercut all that.
Further, I think it is fairly clear that Rowling is _usually_ fairly
socially conservative. I'm not sure she sees burning social injustice
where you see it. House elves, for instance - I'm not even sure she
would support the notion that the system needs to be reformed to make
room for the exception like Dobby. She might hold that the exceptional
Dobby who craves "freedom" will find a way.
> 7. Life Goes On
>
> Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
> Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
> story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
> main characters become.
I hope she doesn't do this. I want the narrative to end about a week
after Voldy's demise. We don't need a "Rings" type ending here.
Dave
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281549 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 15:28 |
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Jano wrote:
> Karnak17 wrote:
> > Does anyone else find "Snape out for himself" to be the most
> > implausible of ideas ever? There is nothing in his character which
> > suggests this. He has always wanted recognition for his achievements.
> > We see this in the way he reacts to flattery and seeks advancement. It
> > is recognition from others that he wants. Respect, in short. He is
> > not a self-contained sociopath who wants power for it's own sake, or
> > would be content with such a thing. Or would know what to do with it
> > if he had it.
>
> Just imagine the fame for Snape if he somehow manages to be there when Harry
> kills V, to then kill his hated Harry, claiming that he was the one
> defeating V.
Okay. <imagining>
Hermione Granger's Library
Book: GREAT WIZARDS OF THE MODERN WORLD
SEVERUS SNAPE: Longtime prisoner of Azkaban, famed throughout the
wizarding world for murdering the great Harry Potter shortly after
Harry defeated Lord Voldemort. AND THEN TRYING TO PRETEND that HE had
killed Lord Voldemort himself: Although, of course, nobody could
believe this of the villain who had previously murdered Albus
Dumbledore in cold blood and in front of witnesses. Snape was the
first prisoner to be put to death under Rufus Scrimgeour's Torture Is
Good Bill. Origin of the phrase "pulling a Severus", which means
"trying to tell a particularly ridiculous lie that you cannot possibly
get away with out of sheer desperation".
<snapping out of it>
Well that doesn't exactly look like something to look forward to. No!
Killing DD was a one way ticket OUT of respectable wizarding society.
> He certainly has the info (heard the prophecy) and maybe the cool blood to
> wait for years and to kill a boy.
>
> Alas, what would we Snape fans do if he turns to be a child killer?
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281551 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 16:16 |
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Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:
> Catherine Johnson wrote:
>
> > Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>
> >> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
> >> may be Malfoy's dad.
>
> > ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost
> > identical to each other... Honestly, people, stop.
>
> Draco's birth mother could've been Lucius's twin sister.
Or Lucius HIMSELF. He's one of those rare wizards who can morph
himself into the opposite sex. He and Severus had a few too many
drinks one night, and one thing led to another. . . .
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281552 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 16:59 |
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Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>
>
>>Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
>>may be Malfoy's dad.
>
>
> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost identical
> to each other...
Sounds like Standard Answer #14 needs to be generalized:
"Yep, that's Rowling's first rule of blood relationships: People who
resemble each other are never related."
Regards,
John
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281557 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 22:39 |
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"Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye [at] deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
news:Y1Ghg.7002$_c1.2289 [at] fed1read05...
> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>
>> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
>> may be Malfoy's dad.
>
> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost identical
> to each other...
> Honestly, people, stop.
>
> Catherine Johnson.
Have it your way but I feel there is some solid reason Draco is Snapes
favourite and not just because he is a sliverine and lucius's friend.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281558 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 22:47 |
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"Richard Eney" <dicconf [at] radix.net> wrote in message
news:128cjpj5q6fh55b [at] corp.supernews.com...
> In article <eDrhg.249916$7a.61733 [at] pd7tw1no>,
> Paracelsus <petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote:
> >Predictions for Book 7
[snip]
> >4. The Passion of Snape
> <snip>
> > The truth, we will see, is that Snape is loyal to no one and
> > has been pursuing his own personal agenda of glory and revenge.
>
> Likely.
>
> > He will see the error of his ways and sacrifice himself to assist
> > Harry.
>
> Most unlikely, IMO. I think he will be driven to some kind of sacrifice,
> probably by a combination of two conflicting magical requirements.
> If he is stuck in a situation where no matter what he does, he dies,
> he may choose to help Harry. I think Snape's agenda is to destroy
> Voldemort, for reasons of his own.
Because Voldy killed Lilly (and he hates himself too, regretting having
betrayed them to Voldy out of jealousy of the relationship between Lilly and
James).
DaveD
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281559 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 22:47 |
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"Paracelsus" <petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:B3Lhg.255896$WI1.175571 [at] pd7tw2no...
Toon wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 03:21:46 GMT, Paracelsus
<petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote:
Quote:
Harry does not ever become a teacher. Why don't people ever believe
JK?
I checked for the quote at a reference site and found that she had said that
Harry would not become Headmaster. In any event, its unlikely that JK keeps
track of everything she says in interviews when she writes.
One thing JK has said many times is that Book 7 will be the last book. That
means that she has to leave Harry in a career that is satisfying, familiar
and uneventful. It would be very frustrating to be told that Harry had a
long an exciting career as an Auror and never learn anything more. It would
be equally frustrating to imagine him stuck at a desk job in the Ministry.
Returning him to the familiar world of Hogwarts, the first place he was
really happy, strikes me as the best way to round out the series.
Endquote
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Most books like this that I've read end with the problem having been sorted
and (assuming the main protagonists survive...) looking around, planning
some sort of R&R then wondering which direction they're going to head off in
(other than towards the sunset) - perhaps some possibilities but not often
too specific: they like to leave the horizon nice and open (so your
imagination can draw in some details). Cliched and trite but that's kinda
how they usually go imho!
DaveD
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281562 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 00:02 |
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Karnak 17 wrote:
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:
>> Catherine Johnson wrote:
>>> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>>>> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
>>>> may be Malfoy's dad.
>>> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost
>>> identical to each other... Honestly, people, stop.
>> Draco's birth mother could've been Lucius's twin sister.
> Or Lucius HIMSELF. He's one of those rare wizards who can morph
> himself into the opposite sex. He and Severus had a few too many
> drinks one night, and one thing led to another. . . .
Haha!
Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
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David Sueme wrote:
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cite="mid1149753945.574671.200040 [at] h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com"
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<pre wrap="">Paracelsus wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Predictions for Book 7
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!----></pre>
<pre wrap=""><snip>
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">6. Talkin' 'bout Revolution
There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
world.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
It can't be too major. Rowling has sold several thousand (rumors are
even more!) books mostly in the premise "imagine youself living in this
better, more interesting world". Major revisions undercut all that.
Further, I think it is fairly clear that Rowling is _usually_ fairly
socially conservative. I'm not sure she sees burning social injustice
where you see it. House elves, for instance - I'm not even sure she
would support the notion that the system needs to be reformed to make
room for the exception like Dobby. She might hold that the exceptional
Dobby who craves "freedom" will find a way.
</pre>
</blockquote>
Although the wizarding world is socially conservative, Rowling herself
appears to be a social and political liberal. She supports Amnesty
International and various other liberal causes. While the wizarding
world may be more interesting than ours, she does not hold it out as a
better place. At the end of Order of the Phoenix, Dumbledore tells
Harry, "We wizards have mistreated and abused our fellows for too long,
an we are now reaping our reward." All of the injustices will not be
corrected in one book but a start will be made.<br>
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281566 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 01:51 |
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Paracelsus wrote:
> Toon wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 03:21:46 GMT, Paracelsus
>><petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>7. Life Goes On
>>>
>>>Harry and his closest friends will survive the final battle with
>>>Voldemort. The books are a story of the education of children and the
>>>story would not be complete if we did not see what kind of adults the
>>>main characters become. Harry will spend a number of years nursing his
>>>wounds, travelling and studying. He will return to Hogwarts as Defence
>>>Against Dark Arts teacher. Hermione will become a Healer. This will
>>>please her parents and give her a platform to promote reform of Wizard
>>>society. Ginny will become a professional Quidditch player and will be
>>>much envied by Ron who will follow his father into a minor position in
>>>the Ministry of Magic.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Harry does not ever become a teacher. Why don't people ever believe
>>JK?
>>
>>
> I checked for the quote at a reference site and found that she had said
> that Harry would not become Headmaster. In any event, its unlikely that
> JK keeps track of everything she says in interviews when she writes.
Considering how careful she is in answering questions - and choosing the
questions she will answer - My guess is that it is the other way around
- she only answers the questions she already KNOWS the definitive answer to.
>
> One thing JK has said many times is that Book 7 will be the last book.
> That means that she has to leave Harry in a career that is satisfying,
> familiar and uneventful. It would be very frustrating to be told that
> Harry had a long an exciting career as an Auror and never learn anything
> more. It would be equally frustrating to imagine him stuck at a desk
> job in the Ministry. Returning him to the familiar world of Hogwarts,
> the first place he was really happy, strikes me as the best way to round
> out the series.
Actually - she could leave that out of the book and end it with V's
demise. (I know - I doubt it too).
I too believe that Harry will end up in something that will make him
Happy (He was always good with the beasts too - not just DADA).
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281567 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 01:54 |
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Jano wrote:
> Karnak17 wrote:
>
>>Does anyone else find "Snape out for himself" to be the most
>>implausible of ideas ever? There is nothing in his character which
>>suggests this. He has always wanted recognition for his achievements.
>>We see this in the way he reacts to flattery and seeks advancement. It
>>is recognition from others that he wants. Respect, in short. He is
>>not a self-contained sociopath who wants power for it's own sake, or
>>would be content with such a thing. Or would know what to do with it
>>if he had it.
>
>
> Just imagine the fame for Snape if he somehow manages to be there when Harry
> kills V, to then kill his hated Harry, claiming that he was the one
> defeating V.
>
> He certainly has the info (heard the prophecy) and maybe the cool blood to
> wait for years and to kill a boy.
>
> Alas, what would we Snape fans do if he turns to be a child killer?
>
Nice Try
Alas - although an interesting "twist" - it won't happen. Of the things
I am sure of - is that Harry will survive the V battles. I have said
that I wouldn't put it past JKR to have a paragraph or two about Harry
after V - up to his "eventual" death - of old age. SO I cannot say that
Harry will survive the series of books - but his death would not be tragic.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281570 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 02:10 |
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Paracelsus wrote:
> David Sueme wrote:
>
>>Paracelsus wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Predictions for Book 7
>>>
>>>
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>6. Talkin' 'bout Revolution
>>>
>>>There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
>>>world.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>It can't be too major. Rowling has sold several thousand (rumors are
>>even more!) books mostly in the premise "imagine youself living in this
>>better, more interesting world". Major revisions undercut all that.
>>Further, I think it is fairly clear that Rowling is _usually_ fairly
>>socially conservative. I'm not sure she sees burning social injustice
>>where you see it. House elves, for instance - I'm not even sure she
>>would support the notion that the system needs to be reformed to make
>>room for the exception like Dobby. She might hold that the exceptional
>>Dobby who craves "freedom" will find a way.
>>
>>
> Although the wizarding world is socially conservative, Rowling herself appears
> to be a social and political liberal.
She seems to have a hard on for Americans though, given how she comes
off in an interview on one of the dvds.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281571 ] |
Do, 08 Juni 2006 20:56 |
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Karnak17 wrote:
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:
>> Catherine Johnson wrote:
>>> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>>
>>>> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think
>>>> he may be Malfoy's dad.
>>
>>> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking
>>> almost identical to each other... Honestly, people, stop.
>>
>> Draco's birth mother could've been Lucius's twin sister.
>
> Or Lucius HIMSELF. He's one of those rare wizards who can morph
> himself into the opposite sex.
Berge Katse? Is that you...??
> He and Severus had a few too many drinks one night, and one thing
> led to another. . . .
Man, if I didn't have, like, five other fanfics I'm trying to work on...
Catherine Johnson.
--
fenm at cox dot net
"Don't go to Europe to 'find yourself'. Who told you that you were over
there, anyway?"
-Stephen Colbert, _The Colbert Report_.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281573 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 03:16 |
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Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> Jano wrote:
>
>
>>Just imagine the fame for Snape if he somehow manages to be
>>there when Harry kills V, to then kill his hated Harry, claiming
>>that he was the one defeating V.
>>He certainly has the info (heard the prophecy) and maybe the
>>cool blood to wait for years and to kill a boy.
>>Alas, what would we Snape fans do if he turns to be a child
>>killer?
>
>
> How would killing a 17-year-old make him a "child killer"?
>
> Catherine Johnson.
Even in the US - killing a Student from High School would make one a
child killer. Harry has one year left of Hogwarts - equivalent to the
last year of High School here.
Also - in most States - the age of "adulthood" is 18 - making Harry
still a child.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281574 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 03:17 |
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Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:
> Catherine Johnson wrote:
>
>
>>Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>
>
>>>Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
>>>may be Malfoy's dad.
>
>
>>...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost
>>identical to each other... Honestly, people, stop.
>
>
> Draco's birth mother could've been Lucius's twin sister.
>
>
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
>
I prefer the hypothesis that the Queen is really a man to this one.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281575 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 03:20 |
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Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:
> Tamar RE wrote:
>
>
>>Peter Sim wrote:
>
>
>>>Predictions for Book 7
>
>
>>>5. Back to School
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>
>>>Harry will return to Hogwarts for his final year. He will realize that
>>>he is still a young man with a lot to learn.
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>
>>I think he will return, but only for part of the year, to study certain
>>very specific topics with certain teachers, and that's only if Voldemort
>>doesn't manage to take over the school.
>
>
> I think it's more likely that Ron will forsake Harry after his Head Boy
> badge arrives, while Hermione sacrifices her Head Girl badge to go on the
> hunt for the Horcruxes. Due to Harry's absence, Ron will become Captain
> of the Quidditch team, and the Mirror of Erised will be proved correct.
>
>
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
>
I think quidditch is dead for the last book. It would really be a
useless thread for the book anyway.
As far as the Trio - I think that they will be together through the book
- even when Harry insists that the other two stay away because it is his
destiny - not theirs. THe moral of this is that true friends stick
together when the going gets tough. (The remnant of the children's book
requirement)
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281576 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 03:22 |
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duh wrote:
> Paracelsus wrote:
>
>> David Sueme wrote:
>>
>>> Paracelsus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Predictions for Book 7
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 6. Talkin' 'bout Revolution
>>>>
>>>> There will be a major social and political upheaval in the magical
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It can't be too major. Rowling has sold several thousand (rumors are
>>> even more!) books mostly in the premise "imagine youself living in this
>>> better, more interesting world". Major revisions undercut all that.
>>> Further, I think it is fairly clear that Rowling is _usually_ fairly
>>> socially conservative. I'm not sure she sees burning social injustice
>>> where you see it. House elves, for instance - I'm not even sure she
>>> would support the notion that the system needs to be reformed to make
>>> room for the exception like Dobby. She might hold that the exceptional
>>> Dobby who craves "freedom" will find a way.
>>>
>>>
>> Although the wizarding world is socially conservative, Rowling herself
>> appears to be a social and political liberal.
>
>
> She seems to have a hard on for Americans though, given how she comes
> off in an interview on one of the dvds.
>
>
> -------------------------
> "Work like no one is watching,
> Dance like you've never been hurt, and
> Love like you don't need the money"
>
> \
> =8{B
> \
I have yet to see her turn down our money though.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281578 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 03:35 |
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Dwayne & Angela wrote:
> "Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye [at] deadmoon.circus> wrote in message
> news:Y1Ghg.7002$_c1.2289 [at] fed1read05...
> > Dwayne & Angela wrote:
> >
> >> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
> >> may be Malfoy's dad.
> >
> > ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost identical
> > to each other...
> > Honestly, people, stop.
> >
> > Catherine Johnson.
>
> Have it your way but I feel there is some solid reason Draco is Snapes
> favourite and not just because he is a sliverine and lucius's friend.
It is a close friendship of long standing. Seeminly his only such
friendship. Why should he NOT have an affection for the son of his
friend. Especially since your theory assumes that he has an even
stronger affection for Narcissa Malfoy. Why should he not care about
the son of a woman he loved?
I honestly cannot see a woman like Narcissa touching him. Not unless
he WASHED HIS HAIR. Seriously.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281581 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 04:16 |
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Paracelsus <petersim [at] _nospam_shaw.ca> wrote in
news:Ri2ig.951$Wz4.377 [at] pd7tw2no:
[please don't post in HTML. I had to reformat the quoting to get it to
standard Usenet style]
> David Sueme wrote:
>> It can't be too major. Rowling has sold several thousand (rumors are
>> even more!) books mostly in the premise "imagine youself living in
>> this better, more interesting world". Major revisions undercut all
>> that. Further, I think it is fairly clear that Rowling is _usually_
>> fairly socially conservative. I'm not sure she sees burning social
>> injustice where you see it. House elves, for instance - I'm not even
>> sure she would support the notion that the system needs to be reformed
>> to make room for the exception like Dobby. She might hold that the
>> exceptional Dobby who craves "freedom" will find a way.
> Although the wizarding world is socially conservative, Rowling herself
> appears to be a social and political liberal. She supports Amnesty
> International and various other liberal causes. While the
> wizarding world may be more interesting than ours, she does not hold
> it out as a better place. At the end of Order of the Phoenix,
> Dumbledore tells Harry, "We wizards have mistreated and abused our
> fellows for too long, an we are now reaping our reward." All of
> the injustices will not be corrected in one book but a start will be
> made.
It's always struck me that one of the major themes of the series is
Harry's gradual discovery that while the Wizard world may be more
*interesting* than the Muggle world, it's not necessarily *better*.
Early on, it seems to resemble a childhood fantasy, especially that of a
kid like Harry who had a deprived childhood. But as Harry matures, he
becomes more aware that it's a world with many flaws. And that, indeed,
is a normal and necessary part of coming of age; the realization that
there's never going to be a world that caters purely to your fantasies.
Most of us can remember, as children, being impressed by stuff that we'd
now recognize as pure dreck (e.g. visiting a tacky tourist trap can seem
absolutely wonderful to a kid). Immaturity can make the world seem more
wonderful than it really is (though it can also make it seem less
wonderful; part of growing up is redefining your sense of wonder). In
many ways, Harry's initial view of the Wizard world is like the PM's at
the end of the first chapter of HBP; he can see that wizards have
immensely powerful ways of solving problems, but he has yet to learn that
that also means they have immensely powerful ways of creating them.
In fact, I think one of Rowling's intentions is to debunk the childish
notion (which many people never grow out of) that everything would be
just wonderful if only you had enough power. It's plain, for example,
that ever since he began to wield his extraordinary powers, Tom has
managed to make his own life miserable as well as others' lives (look at
how scared and defensive he is when he first meets Dumbledore). And JKR
is dropping "anvil-size" hints that Harry will *not* be able to defeat
Tom by simply *overpowering* him magically. The fact that Wizards have
powers that Muggles don't doesn't make their lives better, it just makes
them different.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281587 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 06:56 |
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:47:01 BST, Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day
Slitheen <bffpds [at] raxacoricofallapatoria> wrote:
>Catherine Johnson wrote:
>
>> Dwayne & Angela wrote:
>
>>> Snape is still not nice but I dont think he's evil I also think he
>>> may be Malfoy's dad.
>
>> ...which is why Lucius and Draco are described as looking almost
>> identical to each other... Honestly, people, stop.
>
>Draco's birth mother could've been Lucius's twin sister.
>
I doubt he's into incest.
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| Re: Seven for Seven [message #281588 ] |
Fr, 09 Juni 2006 06:57 |
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:48:54 BST, Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day
Slitheen <bffpds [at] raxacoricofallapatoria> wrote:
>I think it's more likely that Ron will forsake Harry after his Head Boy
>badge arrives, while Hermione sacrifices her Head Girl badge to go on the
>hunt for the Horcruxes. Due to Harry's absence, Ron will become Captain
>of the Quidditch team, and the Mirror of Erised will be proved correct.
>
Which it's not supposed to be.
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