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wanna-be write requesting help [message #280364] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 11:35
shadowgirl  
Hello everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on
how to get a book published. I am currently working on a children's
book. When it's done, I was hoping to see if I could get it published.
Unfortunately not alot of books ever make it, and I know this. But I
still have to try. Anyone care to advise me? Even a link to a writers
blog would be ever so helpful.
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280376 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 12:01
Torak  
shadowgirl wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on
> how to get a book published. I am currently working on a children's
> book. When it's done, I was hoping to see if I could get it published.
> Unfortunately not alot of books ever make it, and I know this. But I
> still have to try. Anyone care to advise me? Even a link to a writers
> blog would be ever so helpful.

There was a thread about it a while back, and I think it's on L-Space if
you search for "How to get published" or something.

Other than that, I'd say there are two main ways; getting an agent to
find you a publisher who likes your work, bungs it into a book and sends
it to Waterstones, and you get a wodge of cash. This is the good way.

The other way is to self-publish, which will cost you money until you've
recouped your costs; if your book's good and people realise, that could
be fairly quick. If it isn't, or people don't, then you might end up
with a losing deal on the whole.

If you decide to self-publish, there are a couple of options. Have a
look at <www.iuniverse.com> and <www.lulu.com> to see if either fit your
needs.
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280377 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 12:03
Torak  
Torak wrote:
> shadowgirl wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on
>> how to get a book published. I am currently working on a children's
>> book. When it's done, I was hoping to see if I could get it published.
>> Unfortunately not alot of books ever make it, and I know this. But I
>> still have to try. Anyone care to advise me? Even a link to a writers
>> blog would be ever so helpful.
>
>
> There was a thread about it a while back, and I think it's on L-Space if
> you search for "How to get published" or something.
>
> Other than that, I'd say there are two main ways; getting an agent to
> find you a publisher who likes your work, bungs it into a book and sends
> it to Waterstones, and you get a wodge of cash. This is the good way.
>
> The other way is to self-publish, which will cost you money until you've
> recouped your costs; if your book's good and people realise, that could
> be fairly quick. If it isn't, or people don't, then you might end up
> with a losing deal on the whole.
>
> If you decide to self-publish, there are a couple of options. Have a
> look at <www.iuniverse.com> and <www.lulu.com> to see if either fit your
> needs.

Oh, and I might as well mention something Jeff Arch said at a
screenwriting seminar I attended: Never consider yourself an "aspiring
[1] writer". You're either a writer or you're not; an aspiring writer isn't.


[1] - or wannabe, as in your subject line
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280386 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 13:11
geminii  
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:03:13 +0200, Torak <perry_awm [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>Oh, and I might as well mention something Jeff Arch said at a
>screenwriting seminar I attended: Never consider yourself an "aspiring
>[1] writer". You're either a writer or you're not; an aspiring writer isn't.
>
>
>[1] - or wannabe, as in your subject line

Presumably there is some kind of fuzzy line separating the hacks and
dabblers from the Writers. The sort where one can cross it without being
aware of the fact at the time.

It's not publication. There are plenty of published dabblers, and
unpublished Writers. Perhaps it's the position writing holds on the
personal priority list?

I, for example, am not a Writer. I do a lot of typing, it's true.
Sometimes there's a even a plot, or at least a theme or point. I'm a fair
amateur editor, have attended writing workshops out of curiosity, beta'ed
the occasional fanfic and whiled away many an hour happily tinkering with
plot points, characters, continuity and the like. I'll research minor
throwaway lines for weeks, travel for hours to look something up. and
rewrite entire chapters if they turn on the wrong word.

Yet I am not a Writer.

I can go months without considering the written word or having
headcharacters chatter at me. I'm perfectly content about my name's
absence from bookshop shelves. I don't ask other people to read or check
my writing. 99% of it stays on the hard disk anyway. I feel no *urge* to
write. I don't have stories that force me to tell them, words and worlds
tumbling out of me onto the page in a chaotic cascade. I don't wake at 3am
with solutions for the plot twist in the third act.

I haven't worn writing implements into uselessness. I don't talk to people
about the characters or scenes I'm working on, or find myself trying to
explain the convoluted political background for my AU-historical novel. I
don't sit blankly behind a keyboard trying to paint myself *out* of
literary corners when there's a good film on or a game to play.

I am not a Writer. I write, but I don't Write. And yet, I find it
difficult to say where the line should lie, or even if there should be a
line at all.

Is it just a case of Those Who Know, Know?


-SteveD
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280389 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 13:43
Diane L  
Torak wrote:
> shadowgirl wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction
>> on how to get a book published. I am currently working on a
>> children's book. When it's done, I was hoping to see if I could get
>> it published. Unfortunately not alot of books ever make it, and I
>> know this. But I still have to try. Anyone care to advise me? Even a
>> link to a writers blog would be ever so helpful.
>
> There was a thread about it a while back, and I think it's on L-Space
> if you search for "How to get published" or something.
>

This one?
http://www.co.uk.lspace.org/fandom/afp/timelines/discussions /percentage-of-the-gross.html

It has advice from both Pterry and Diane Duane on agents, publishers
and contracts and should be useful.

Diane L.
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280391 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 13:47
shadowgirl  
Thanks everyone so far for all the help and the comments. Yes maybe I
am a writer. But maybe I'm an artist too. Or maybe I just suck at both
badly and just have high hopes and dreams. I do write alot and most of
my stuff stays unfinished or on floppy marked "come back to later". I
try not to let anything get in the way of writing but then find myself
making way for my art side. Anyway thanks again, keep them coming.


Diane L wrote:
> Torak wrote:
> > shadowgirl wrote:
> >> Hello everyone,
> >> I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction
> >> on how to get a book published. I am currently working on a
> >> children's book. When it's done, I was hoping to see if I could get
> >> it published. Unfortunately not alot of books ever make it, and I
> >> know this. But I still have to try. Anyone care to advise me? Even a
> >> link to a writers blog would be ever so helpful.
> >
> > There was a thread about it a while back, and I think it's on L-Space
> > if you search for "How to get published" or something.
> >
>
> This one?
> http://www.co.uk.lspace.org/fandom/afp/timelines/discussions /percentage-of-the-gross.html
>
> It has advice from both Pterry and Diane Duane on agents, publishers
> and contracts and should be useful.
>
> Diane L.
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280399 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 14:24
Steve Rogers  
"Torak" <perry_awm [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1uxhg.1668$YI3.1385 [at] amstwist00...
> shadowgirl wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction
>> on
>> how to get a book published. I am currently working on a children's
>> book. When it's done, I was hoping to see if I could get it
>> published.
>> Unfortunately not alot of books ever make it, and I know this. But I
>> still have to try. Anyone care to advise me? Even a link to a writers
>> blog would be ever so helpful.
>
> There was a thread about it a while back, and I think it's on L-Space
> if you search for "How to get published" or something.
>
> Other than that, I'd say there are two main ways; getting an agent to
> find you a publisher who likes your work, bungs it into a book and
> sends it to Waterstones, and you get a wodge of cash. This is the good
> way.
>
> The other way is to self-publish, which will cost you money until
> you've recouped your costs; if your book's good and people realise,
> that could be fairly quick. If it isn't, or people don't, then you
> might end up with a losing deal on the whole.
>
> If you decide to self-publish, there are a couple of options. Have a
> look at <www.iuniverse.com> and <www.lulu.com> to see if either fit
> your needs.

And be on the lookout for the scams where they promise to publish your
work, say in a collection of similar works, send you details of it, and
then ask you for money so that you can purchase copies for yourself,
family and friends.

Steve
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280473 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 19:38
Julia Jones  
In article <e66gh4$3rd$1$8300dec7 [at] news.demon.co.uk>, Steve Rogers
<steve [at] soapietrekkers.demon.co.uk> writes

[snip]

>And be on the lookout for the scams where they promise to publish your
>work, say in a collection of similar works, send you details of it, and
>then ask you for money so that you can purchase copies for yourself,
>family and friends.

Extremely useful collection of links here:
< http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/2005/01/everything-you-wan ted-to-know-
about.asp>
--
Julia Jones
Spindrift -- EPPIE 2006 finalist, 5 stars from JERR
Richard finds the truth in legend, when he finds a silkie bereft of
his skin and in need of a home... http://www.loose-id.net/detail.aspx?ID=138
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #280552 ] Mi, 07 Juni 2006 23:25
Rocky Frisco  
shadowgirl wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on
> how to get a book published. I am currently working on a children's
> book. When it's done, I was hoping to see if I could get it published.
> Unfortunately not alot of books ever make it, and I know this. But I
> still have to try. Anyone care to advise me? Even a link to a writers
> blog would be ever so helpful.

I spent altogether around 35 years writing two novels, one of which was
described by TP as "magnificent," but have not been published. Good luck!

-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
Re: wanna-be write requesting help [message #289507 ] Di, 20 Juni 2006 22:32
Elder1  
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:25:48 -0400, Rocky Frisco wrote:

> shadowgirl wrote:
>
[---8<---] Go for it showgirl.

>
> I spent altogether around 35 years writing two novels, one of which was
> described by TP as "magnificent," but have not been published. Good
> luck!
>

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