| The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #271538] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 06:11 |
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Let's face it, when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
treat the Muslims with kid gloves while simultaneously portraying
and/or satirizing every other religion on the show.
The political correctness of this show is why I don't like it anymore.
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #271539 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 06:21 |
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #271540 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 06:30 |
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> "Justin Pate" <JP51307 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1148703081.616319.90880 [at] g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Let's face it, when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
> > show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are
> > willing to treat the Muslims with kid gloves while simultaneously
> > portraying
> > and/or satirizing every other religion on the show.
> >
> > The political correctness of this show is why I don't like it
> > anymore.
> >
>
> Maybe they're not doing it simply because right-nuts like you are so
> obsessed with the subject? The fact that it pisses you off says
> "mission accomplished" to me.
>
> Is it not enough for you wing-nuts that our myopic foreign policy has
> caused the deaths tens of thousands of them in Afghanistan and Iraq?
> There's nothing like rubbing a little salt in a wound to demonstrate
> them thar christian family values, I guess. Maybe you'd like poking
> them with a pointy stick for further amusement?
And why do you assume I'm a Christian? Religion is bad because it's
man's opinion about what god wants. As if any person knows what God
wants. Sheesh. Any attack on religion naturally has to include a dig
at Islam; otherwise it's just being disingenuous.
>
> Maybe the writers figure Muslims/Arabs being slaughtered on a daily
> basis is more than enough of a 'statement' for them?
>
> :-)
If Yassir Arafat was alive, they'd probably would have gotten him to do
a voiceover for a Simpsons episode next season. My, how far to the
left the show has gotten!
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #271541 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 08:56 |
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"Justin Pate" <JP51307 [at] yahoo.com> wrote
> Let's face it, when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
> show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
> treat the Muslims with kid gloves while simultaneously portraying
> and/or satirizing every other religion on the show.
Never really noticed, but you may have a point. They've done plenty of
Jewish jokes, and with Apu in there the Hindus have had their share of
knocks ("There *are* 700 million of us". "Ah super...") I can think of quite
a few Catholic references - even the Pope has appeared a few times. Maybe
the September 11th thing is still making the network nervous, although that
didn't stop the WTC episode continuing to play around the world. And South
Park certainly isn't too shy to give the Muslims a serve!
> The political correctness of this show is why I don't like it anymore.
Well that's you view and you're entitled to it - I'll keep watching, there's
sod all else on these days!
Interesting quote I came across while searching snpp.com for the Apu line:
"One of the most satirized topics on The Simpsons is religion. The Simpsons
"takes more satirical jabs at spiritual matters than any other TV show"(Dart
12). According to a study by John Heeren of California State University at
San Bernardino. religious content appears in nearly 70 percent of the shows"
and 11 percent of The Simpsons' episodes main theme is religious (Dart 13).
From houses of worship to religious leaders, The Simpsons ridicules every
aspect of religion."
~ Scott Satkin
Paul
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #271543 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 17:47 |
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Justin Pate wrote:
> Let's face it, when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
> show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
> treat the Muslims with kid gloves while simultaneously portraying
> and/or satirizing every other religion on the show.
>
> The political correctness of this show is why I don't like it anymore.
You may have a point that Islam gets off pretty lightly on the show,
but I'd say that's because they don't have an Islamic character as a
vehicle for satire. Krusty is Jewish, Apu is Hindu, and most of the
rest of the cast are Christian. Carl is also a vehicle for satire on
race.
I think you're point that;
"when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
> show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
> treat the Muslims with kid gloves"
is a tad ridiculous. The Simpsons are in nearly every country, how does
the fact its broadcast in the Middle East make it more or less
pandering? The daily reruns of the Simpsons make up at least 4 of the
top ten slots on the Irish weekly ratings lists, yet the Irish jokes
border on racism. (I'm thinking in particular of the St Patrick's day
parade that routinely included the bombing of a British shop.)
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #271544 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 18:28 |
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Macca7174 wrote:
> Justin Pate wrote:
> > Let's face it, when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
> > show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
> > treat the Muslims with kid gloves while simultaneously portraying
> > and/or satirizing every other religion on the show.
> >
> > The political correctness of this show is why I don't like it anymore.
>
> You may have a point that Islam gets off pretty lightly on the show,
> but I'd say that's because they don't have an Islamic character as a
> vehicle for satire. Krusty is Jewish, Apu is Hindu, and most of the
> rest of the cast are Christian. Carl is also a vehicle for satire on
> race.
> I think you're point that;
> "when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
> > show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
> > treat the Muslims with kid gloves"
> is a tad ridiculous. The Simpsons are in nearly every country, how does
> the fact its broadcast in the Middle East make it more or less
> pandering?
The fact that they change the show's character entirely instead of just
censoring out bad parts is a sign of pandering. Come on, Marge wearing
a veil? Homer becoming Omar and instead of drooling at beer and bacon
drools at root beer and halal sausages? They don't have Homer drinking
Guiness and drooling over corned beef and cabbage in Ireland, do they?
How can the show still be biting social satire when they sanitize it
for a Middle Eastern audience? The answer: they only want to tap that
market for money.
It's a shame how people will sell their souls out for more money.
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #271554 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 17:09 |
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On 27 May 2006 09:28:12 -0700, "Justin Pate" <JP51307 [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:
>The fact that they change the show's character entirely instead of just
>censoring out bad parts is a sign of pandering. Come on, Marge wearing
>a veil? Homer becoming Omar and instead of drooling at beer and bacon
>drools at root beer and halal sausages? They don't have Homer drinking
>Guiness and drooling over corned beef and cabbage in Ireland, do they?
>
>How can the show still be biting social satire when they sanitize it
>for a Middle Eastern audience? The answer: they only want to tap that
>market for money.
>
>It's a shame how people will sell their souls out for more money.
I don't think "they," as in the Simpsons staff, had anything at all to
do with the changes or with bringing it to the Middle East, that was
more likely left to some Fox lackey. I saw a brief interview clip
with Al Jean right after the news about the show airing there first
came out, and he seemed rather surprised by the changes and the whole
thing himself.
It's probably just another syndication package of some variety, and if
the commentary tracks are to be believed, they've got no control over
anything that winds up altered in syndication too.
-lugnut
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam. Darren Hayes isn't [message #276488 ] |
Fr, 02 Juni 2006 10:31 |
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He is a white christian
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam. Darren Hayes isn't [message #278523 ] |
Sa, 03 Juni 2006 04:39 |
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On 2-Jun-2006, Gymdandy [at] webtv.net wrote:
> He is a white christian
What church welcomes gay disco singers?
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam [message #284419 ] |
Mi, 21 Juni 2006 09:12 |
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Justin Pate wrote:
> Macca7174 wrote:
>
>>Justin Pate wrote:
>>
>>>Let's face it, when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
>>>show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
>>>treat the Muslims with kid gloves while simultaneously portraying
>>>and/or satirizing every other religion on the show.
>>>
>>>The political correctness of this show is why I don't like it anymore.
>>
>>You may have a point that Islam gets off pretty lightly on the show,
>>but I'd say that's because they don't have an Islamic character as a
>>vehicle for satire. Krusty is Jewish, Apu is Hindu, and most of the
>>rest of the cast are Christian. Carl is also a vehicle for satire on
>>race.
>>I think you're point that;
>>"when they even have a Middle Eastern version of the
>>
>>>show, that just goes to show you how the Simpsons people are willing to
>>>treat the Muslims with kid gloves"
>>
>>is a tad ridiculous. The Simpsons are in nearly every country, how does
>>the fact its broadcast in the Middle East make it more or less
>>pandering?
>
>
> The fact that they change the show's character entirely instead of just
> censoring out bad parts is a sign of pandering. Come on, Marge wearing
> a veil? Homer becoming Omar and instead of drooling at beer and bacon
> drools at root beer and halal sausages? They don't have Homer drinking
> Guiness and drooling over corned beef and cabbage in Ireland, do they?
>
> How can the show still be biting social satire when they sanitize it
> for a Middle Eastern audience? The answer: they only want to tap that
> market for money.
>
> It's a shame how people will sell their souls out for more money.
Isn't that how free enterprise works?
Why do you hate America?
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| Re: The Simpsons - scared to take on Islam. Darren Hayes isn't [message #284420 ] |
Mi, 21 Juni 2006 09:13 |
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gary.wallace [at] mciter.com wrote:
> On 2-Jun-2006, Gymdandy [at] webtv.net wrote:
>
>
>>He is a white christian
>
>
> What church welcomes gay disco singers?
You'd be surprised, my friend. ;)
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