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Fantasy » alt.fan.harry-potter » OotP & Purple
OotP & Purple [message #270224] So, 28 Mai 2006 13:27
DM  
Dursley's purple hands and purple face

The purple half of the Weasley Twins' trick chews "restores you to full
fitness"

Purple robes tried to strangle Ron

Mrs. Weasley wears a purple dressing gown

Tonks wore a purple hat in her disguise

Dumbledore's robe were deep purple

First years were eating purple sweets

Filch has purple patches on his cheeks

Fred gave Katie something purple, to stop her nosebleed

Hagrid had purple and black bruising

Dumbledore wore an embroided purple and gold dressing gown

Neville had a 'dull purple flush' when the others saw him at St. Mungo's

The Knight Bus - "violently purple". The conductor wore a purple uniform

In Snape's office, Harry saw a frog suspended in a purple liquid

Marietta's face was covered in purple pustules spelling the word "SNEAK"

Purple flames from Dolohov's wand

Tonk's wore a purple t-shirt during the battle in the Department of
Mysteries





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Re: OotP & Purple [message #270234 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 18:45
Ken  
DM wrote:
> Dursley's purple hands and purple face
>
> The purple half of the Weasley Twins' trick chews "restores you to
> full fitness"
>
> Purple robes tried to strangle Ron
>
> Mrs. Weasley wears a purple dressing gown
>
> Tonks wore a purple hat in her disguise
>
> Dumbledore's robe were deep purple
>
> First years were eating purple sweets
>
> Filch has purple patches on his cheeks
>
> Fred gave Katie something purple, to stop her nosebleed
>
> Hagrid had purple and black bruising
>
> Dumbledore wore an embroided purple and gold dressing gown
>
> Neville had a 'dull purple flush' when the others saw him at St.
> Mungo's
> The Knight Bus - "violently purple". The conductor wore a purple
> uniform
> In Snape's office, Harry saw a frog suspended in a purple liquid
>
> Marietta's face was covered in purple pustules spelling the word
> "SNEAK"
> Purple flames from Dolohov's wand
>
> Tonk's wore a purple t-shirt during the battle in the Department of
> Mysteries

You're right! Of the 104 times Rowling used the word "purple" in the six
books, 33 were in OotP!

Ken
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270236 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 18:50
Nick Xylas  
Wonder what our friends at Cutting Edge Ministries would make of this.
I'm sure they would find some reason why purple is eeeevil. Maybe it's
the Devil's second favourite colour, after green.
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270237 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 18:52
Kish  
Nick Xylas wrote:
> Wonder what our friends at Cutting Edge Ministries would make of this.
> I'm sure they would find some reason why purple is eeeevil. Maybe it's
> the Devil's second favourite colour, after green.

Wow, the Devil likes the same colors I do.
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270242 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 21:13
Steve Morrison  
DM wrote:

(snip list of purple items in OotP)

Don't forget the "large purple bat" in the fireworks Fred
and George produced in chapter 28. (p. 632 Scholastic ed.)
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270245 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 21:52
DM  
Here in Minnesota wrote:

> DM wrote:
>
>>Dursley's purple hands and purple face
>>
>>The purple half of the Weasley Twins' trick chews "restores you to
>>full fitness"
>>
>>Purple robes tried to strangle Ron
>>
>>Mrs. Weasley wears a purple dressing gown
>>
>>Tonks wore a purple hat in her disguise
>>
>>Dumbledore's robe were deep purple
>>
>>First years were eating purple sweets
>>
>>Filch has purple patches on his cheeks
>>
>>Fred gave Katie something purple, to stop her nosebleed
>>
>>Hagrid had purple and black bruising
>>
>>Dumbledore wore an embroided purple and gold dressing gown
>>
>>Neville had a 'dull purple flush' when the others saw him at St.
>>Mungo's
>>The Knight Bus - "violently purple". The conductor wore a purple
>>uniform
>>In Snape's office, Harry saw a frog suspended in a purple liquid
>>
>>Marietta's face was covered in purple pustules spelling the word
>>"SNEAK"
>>Purple flames from Dolohov's wand
>>
>>Tonk's wore a purple t-shirt during the battle in the Department of
>>Mysteries
>
>
> You're right! Of the 104 times Rowling used the word "purple" in the six
> books, 33 were in OotP!
>
> Ken
>
>

What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?

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Re: OotP & Purple [message #270246 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 21:51
DM  
Steve Morrison wrote:
> DM wrote:
>
> (snip list of purple items in OotP)
>
> Don't forget the "large purple bat" in the fireworks Fred
> and George produced in chapter 28. (p. 632 Scholastic ed.)
>

Thanks! I did forget that one, even though I saw it. There were a few
other references that I omitted as repetitious.

Also, did anyone notice the unusual number of "two"s, most in the first
TWO chapters? (I didn't include all references here either...)

Harry moved two inches

Harry's head felt as though it was split in two (hit the window)

two purple hands

Two boxes of Honeydukes Chocolates

Mark Evans was beaten two nights ago

Harry's head felt as though it was cleaved in two (Dudley punched him)

Two Dementors

Harry read the MoM letter twice

Harry was interrupted on the count of two when he was threaten to spell
Vernon

Two seconds of ringing silence

The second MoM letter came twenty-two minutes after the first

Vernon thought Dudley gave the Dementors "the old one-two"

"Harry's two lives had somehow become fused"

Two lumps on Harry's head

Harry deftly sprayed two Doxys at once

Harry imagined his wand being snapped in two

Level Two, Department of Magical Law Enforcement

Two months of hurricanes

Two desks inside Mr. Weasley's small office

Fudge took two deep breaths before declaring Harry "cleared of all charges"

The new school year required two new textbooks

Ginny was knocked down two flights of stairs

Black escaped two years prior

two staff changes at Hogwarts

Harry wondered if he'd even have even two minutes of conversation with Cho

two drops of Hellebore

Harry was going to offer two detentions

Harry's detention was two hours

Sturgis lived at number Two, Laburum Gardens

Educational Decree number Twenty-two

(I'm bored, skipping many now...)

Two gargoyles flanked the staff room door

"The week... stretched across two universe, the one with Sirius in it,
and the other without"

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Re: OotP & Purple [message #270248 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 22:46
Weird Beard  
On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:27:22 GMT, DM <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote the
following in alt.fan.harry-potter:

<purple list snipped>

Can I assume that someone has been channeling Wizard World Press?



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Re: OotP & Purple [message #270269 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 03:50
Matt Clara  
"DM" <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uOfeg.8977$Qg.716 [at] tornado.southeast.rr.com...
> Dursley's purple hands and purple face
>
> The purple half of the Weasley Twins' trick chews "restores you to full
> fitness"
>
> Purple robes tried to strangle Ron
>
> Mrs. Weasley wears a purple dressing gown
>
> Tonks wore a purple hat in her disguise
>
> Dumbledore's robe were deep purple
>
> First years were eating purple sweets
>
> Filch has purple patches on his cheeks
>
> Fred gave Katie something purple, to stop her nosebleed
>
> Hagrid had purple and black bruising
>
> Dumbledore wore an embroided purple and gold dressing gown
>
> Neville had a 'dull purple flush' when the others saw him at St. Mungo's
>
> The Knight Bus - "violently purple". The conductor wore a purple uniform
>
> In Snape's office, Harry saw a frog suspended in a purple liquid
>
> Marietta's face was covered in purple pustules spelling the word "SNEAK"
>
> Purple flames from Dolohov's wand
>
> Tonk's wore a purple t-shirt during the battle in the Department of
> Mysteries
>

Reading Ursula LeGuin's Earthsea series for the terms dark and light, or
variations thereof, is a worthwhile pursuit, because she uses these images
deliberately. Purple in Harry Potter on the other hand...were you just
bored?!!

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www.mattclara.com
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270274 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 08:39
Ken  
DM wrote:
> Here in Minnesota wrote:
>>
>
> What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?

Do you mean the word "two"?

book 1 - 104
book 2 - 79
book 3 - 100
book 4 - 169
book 5 - 279
book 6 - 168

Ken
Re: OotP & Purple prose [message #270277 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 09:50
dsueme  
DM wrote:
> purple
>
> The purple
> Purple
> purple dressing gown
>
> purple hat
> deep purple
>
> First years were... purple

etc and so on. Dude, I personally hope this is the result of playing
with an e-book. If you collected this from a dead tree that is just a
bit too - eeugh - Rainman for me.

Dave
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270287 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 10:20
Toon  
On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:27:22 GMT, DM <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote:

>Dursley's purple hands and purple face
>
>The purple half of the Weasley Twins' trick chews "restores you to full
>fitness"
>
>Purple robes tried to strangle Ron
>
>Mrs. Weasley wears a purple dressing gown
>
>Tonks wore a purple hat in her disguise
>
>Dumbledore's robe were deep purple
>
>First years were eating purple sweets
>
>Filch has purple patches on his cheeks
>
>Fred gave Katie something purple, to stop her nosebleed
>
>Hagrid had purple and black bruising
>
>Dumbledore wore an embroided purple and gold dressing gown
>
>Neville had a 'dull purple flush' when the others saw him at St. Mungo's
>
>The Knight Bus - "violently purple". The conductor wore a purple uniform
>
>In Snape's office, Harry saw a frog suspended in a purple liquid
>
>Marietta's face was covered in purple pustules spelling the word "SNEAK"
>
>Purple flames from Dolohov's wand
>
>Tonk's wore a purple t-shirt during the battle in the Department of
>Mysteries

JK likes purple.
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270288 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 10:21
Toon  
On Sun, 28 May 2006 16:52:55 GMT, Kish <Kish_K [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

>Nick Xylas wrote:
>> Wonder what our friends at Cutting Edge Ministries would make of this.
>> I'm sure they would find some reason why purple is eeeevil. Maybe it's
>> the Devil's second favourite colour, after green.
>
>Wow, the Devil likes the same colors I do.

Then you must be evil :P
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270293 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 15:12
DM  
Here in Minnesota wrote:

> DM wrote:
>
>>Here in Minnesota wrote:
>>
>>What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?
>
>
> Do you mean the word "two"?
>
> book 1 - 104
> book 2 - 79
> book 3 - 100
> book 4 - 169
> book 5 - 279
> book 6 - 168
>
> Ken
>
>

What are you using for the counts? I have Acrobat 4, but I haven't seen
a word count option... (Then again, I don't use it often)

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Re: OotP & Purple [message #270300 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 15:16
mcdowella  
In article <hGweg.2582$BN5.2085 [at] newsfe13.phx>, Here in Minnesota
<neverwillicheckthis [at] hotmail.com> writes
>DM wrote:
>> Here in Minnesota wrote:
>>>
>>
>> What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?
>
>Do you mean the word "two"?
>
>book 1 - 104
>book 2 - 79
>book 3 - 100
>book 4 - 169
>book 5 - 279
>book 6 - 168
>
>Ken
>
>
If you have the means of doing arbitrary searches, could you look for
'bacon'? As a result of a thread a month or so ago that I should
probably leave well alone (Never tickle a sleeping Dragon), I would be
curious to know if there are documented episodes of Hermione eating
bacon. The closest I could find could be interpreted as her looking on
while Ron stuffed his face.
--
A.G.McDowell
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270306 ] Mo, 29 Mai 2006 20:58
Ken  
DM wrote:
> Here in Minnesota wrote:
>
>> DM wrote:
>>
>>> Here in Minnesota wrote:
>>>
>>> What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?
>>
>>
>> Do you mean the word "two"?
>>
>> book 1 - 104
>> book 2 - 79
>> book 3 - 100
>> book 4 - 169
>> book 5 - 279
>> book 6 - 168
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>
> What are you using for the counts? I have Acrobat 4, but I haven't
> seen a word count option... (Then again, I don't use it often)

you mean I can use a computer to do the word count!!!





I used MS word with a DOC file. I also have them in PDF... I just tried it
with a "search" for the word "two" with Acrobat 7 and it came up the same
number... 104 results for the word "two" in book 1.

Try a search in Acrobat 4 and see if it works, otherwise download their
version 7 reader.

Ken
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270326 ] Di, 30 Mai 2006 01:46
Blon Fel Fotch Passam  
Ken wrote:

> DM wrote:

>> What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?

> Do you mean the word "two"?

> book 1 - 104
> book 2 - 79
> book 3 - 100
> book 4 - 169
> book 5 - 279
> book 6 - 168

That's odd, my counts are much lower than yours, (though transcription
errors are always a worry). Ken, you're not counting words like...

fifty-two
Fleetwood's
forty-two
network
ninety-two
one-two
outworn
paintwork
seventy-two
trustworthy
twenty-two
two'd
two've
twoo
twos
untrustworthy

....or digit 2s & chapter titles, are you?


Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen

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Re: OotP & Purple [message #270329 ] Di, 30 Mai 2006 02:58
Ken  
A.G.McDowell wrote:
> In article <hGweg.2582$BN5.2085 [at] newsfe13.phx>, Here in Minnesota
> <neverwillicheckthis [at] hotmail.com> writes
>> DM wrote:
>>> Here in Minnesota wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?
>>
>> Do you mean the word "two"?
>>
>> book 1 - 104
>> book 2 - 79
>> book 3 - 100
>> book 4 - 169
>> book 5 - 279
>> book 6 - 168
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
> If you have the means of doing arbitrary searches, could you look for
> 'bacon'? As a result of a thread a month or so ago that I should
> probably leave well alone (Never tickle a sleeping Dragon), I would be
> curious to know if there are documented episodes of Hermione eating
> bacon. The closest I could find could be interpreted as her looking on
> while Ron stuffed his face.

Of the 23 times bacon is mentioned... Hermione is mentioned several times as
being at the table where it was served... but it never states that she ate
it... there are cases where Harry, Ron, Fred and George are mentioned eating
bacon... Mrs. Weasley making bacon sandwiches for the group... serius making
bacon for the group.

So... while most every breakfast mentioned bacon as being served... there is
no proof that Hermione ate any.

Ken
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270330 ] Di, 30 Mai 2006 03:06
Ken  
Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:
> Ken wrote:
>
>> DM wrote:
>
>>> What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?
>
>> Do you mean the word "two"?
>
>> book 1 - 104
>> book 2 - 79
>> book 3 - 100
>> book 4 - 169
>> book 5 - 279
>> book 6 - 168
>
> That's odd, my counts are much lower than yours, (though transcription
> errors are always a worry). Ken, you're not counting words like...
>
> fifty-two
> Fleetwood's
> forty-two
> network
> ninety-two
> one-two
> outworn
> paintwork
> seventy-two
> trustworthy
> twenty-two
> two'd
> two've
> twoo
> twos
> untrustworthy
>
> ...or digit 2s & chapter titles, are you?
>
>
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen

I searched again after checking "whole words only" and it changed the count
from 104 to 103 but yes it does include compound numbers like fifty-two.

Ken
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270361 ] Di, 30 Mai 2006 09:55
dsueme  
Toon wrote:

> JK likes purple.

Eww! It's all bad.

Dave
Re: OotP & Purple [message #270406 ] Mi, 31 Mai 2006 11:42
Blon Fel Fotch Passam  
Ken HiM wrote:

> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:

>> Ken HiM wrote:

>>> DM wrote:

>>>> What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?

>>> Do you mean the word "two"?

>>> book 1 - 104
>>> book 2 - 79
>>> book 3 - 100
>>> book 4 - 169
>>> book 5 - 279
>>> book 6 - 168

>> That's odd, my counts are much lower than yours, (though transcription
>> errors are always a worry). Ken, you're not counting words like...

>> fifty-two
>> Fleetwood's
>> forty-two
>> network
>> ninety-two
>> one-two
>> outworn
>> paintwork
>> seventy-two
>> trustworthy
>> twenty-two
>> two'd
>> two've
>> twoo
>> twos
>> untrustworthy

>> ...or digit 2s & chapter titles, are you?

> I searched again after checking "whole words only" and it changed the
> count from 104 to 103 but yes it does include compound numbers like
> fifty-two.

Since 52 is not equal to 2 that mustn't be allowed; you can easily get
round it by temporarily changing all "-two" to "Dtwo". You should also
change "chapter two" to "chapterStwo", before counting again. I get...

book 1 - 95
book 2 - 74
book 3 - 92
book 4 - 161
book 5 - 247 (!)
book 6 - 156

....which is several twos lower for each book, except with book 5.


Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen

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Re: OotP & Purple [message #276435 ] Fr, 02 Juni 2006 15:04
DM  
Here in Minnesota wrote:
> DM wrote:
>
>>Here in Minnesota wrote:
>>
>>
>>>DM wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here in Minnesota wrote:
>>>>
>>>>What's the count of "two"s compared to the other books?
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you mean the word "two"?
>>>
>>>book 1 - 104
>>>book 2 - 79
>>>book 3 - 100
>>>book 4 - 169
>>>book 5 - 279
>>>book 6 - 168
>>>
>>>Ken
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What are you using for the counts? I have Acrobat 4, but I haven't
>>seen a word count option... (Then again, I don't use it often)
>
>
> you mean I can use a computer to do the word count!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> I used MS word with a DOC file. I also have them in PDF... I just tried it
> with a "search" for the word "two" with Acrobat 7 and it came up the same
> number... 104 results for the word "two" in book 1.
>
> Try a search in Acrobat 4 and see if it works, otherwise download their
> version 7 reader.
>
> Ken
>
>

No, doesn't work. I'll download 7. Thanks!

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