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Science Fiction » alt.fan.starwars » May 25, 1977: Star Wars released
| May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268258] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 19:10 |
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May 25, 1977: Star Wars released
http://www.historychannel.com/tdih/tdih.jsp?category=enterta inment&month=10272957&day=10272990
http://tinyurl.com/mf3ex
Space fantasy Star Wars opens on this day in 1977.
The film became one of the most popular movies of all time, breaking
box office records. Filmmaker George Lucas was nominated for Best
Director and Best Screenwriter Oscars, and the film won seven Oscars
for technical achievements and its musical score, written by John
Williams.
The movie was re-released with great fanfare in 1997.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268259 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 20:01 |
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And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
John Harkness
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268260 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 20:18 |
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Harkness wrote:
> And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
> anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
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> Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
The official company party-line is, George really *did* destroy the
original prints, and all they had left to satisfy noisy fans with was
the old '93 pre-SE LD masters in the vault.
The thrust of the whole "skeptic" fan movement contradicting this seems
to be based on:
1) "George is just greedy, so he can sell them again!" (thaaank you, next?)
2) "George is just throwing a tantrum because he doesn't want fans
telling him different things about his movies than he believes!" (mmm,
possible, but...)
3) "Oh, George wouldn't have been stupid enough to *really* destroy his
old prints because he likes his new versions so much, would he?"
To which 3) argument, I have personally been subscribing, "...Oh,
WOULDN'T he, though? -_- "
Derek Janssen (it is a logical fallacy to underestimate auteur stupidity)
ejanss [at] comcast.net
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268261 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 20:14 |
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Harkness wrote:
> And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
> anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
>
> Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
>
> John Harkness
>
Good ole George has come a long way--many years ago, I seem to recall
him insisting that Stars Wars was meant to be seen in theaters, and
would never make it onto home video.
Why do I have a feeling that September's release is only the first in a
string of upcoming releases for the original versions?
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268262 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 20:20 |
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There was a comment on digital bits by Robert Harris - the guy who
restored Laurence of Arabia and others -- which basically said that
Lucas' position on the impossiblity of restoring the original was
horseshit.
Even if the original negs are gone, there are other prints,
interpositives, etcetera. Hell, I know a couple of people who own 35 mm
prints of the original.
John Harkness
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268263 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 20:23 |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 14:18:30 -0400, Derek Janssen wrote:
> 3) "Oh, George wouldn't have been stupid enough to *really* destroy his
> old prints because he likes his new versions so much, would he?"
>
> To which 3) argument, I have personally been subscribing, "...Oh,
> WOULDN'T he, though? -_- "
It would be physically incapable of him to do so. There are many
collectors with prints of the original versions of the movies. Those
prints could be used by professional film restorers to create a new
high definition digital master of the movies that look far better than
an LD master *that was not even state of the art when it was made*.
This wouldn't be such a disappointment to me if the original LD
transfer was itself anamorphic. At least then it would have an
acceptable appearance on my widescreen television.
--
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268264 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 23:07 |
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In article <1148580117.251977.290540 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Harkness" <caliban43 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
> anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
>
> Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
Geez, the first reply in this topic is some idiot whiner. :-(
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268265 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 23:35 |
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Anybody wrote:
> In article <1148580117.251977.290540 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Harkness" <caliban43 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>>And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
>>anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
>>
>>Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
>
>
> Geez, the first reply in this topic is some idiot whiner. :-(
Well, I WAS going to nostalgically rhapsodize how, prior to 1977,
Memorial Day was considered the "kiss of death" weekend for movies
(well, everyone would be barbecuing at the beach, wouldn't they?), and
Fox originally let Lucas have his bottle and dump the movie in a weekend
where "no one would notice", so that they could concentrate on their big
June studio opening for "Other Side of Midnight", but...times and
current headlines must take precedence.
Derek Janssen
ejanss [at] comcast.net
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268266 ] |
Do, 25 Mai 2006 23:40 |
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Actually, it was the second reply.
And I was more mocking Star Wars fans, rather than whining. I've no
intention of acquiring any edition of any Star Wars films on DVD.
Never had, never will.
John Harkness
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268267 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 00:12 |
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"Derek Janssen" <ejanss [at] nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:D9KdnU8NdJTJv-vZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d [at] comcast.com...
> Anybody wrote:
>
>> In article <1148580117.251977.290540 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Harkness" <caliban43 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
>>>anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
>>>
>>>Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
>>
>>
>> Geez, the first reply in this topic is some idiot whiner. :-(
>
> Well, I WAS going to nostalgically rhapsodize how, prior to 1977, Memorial
> Day was considered the "kiss of death" weekend for movies (well, everyone
> would be barbecuing at the beach, wouldn't they?), and Fox originally let
> Lucas have his bottle and dump the movie in a weekend where "no one would
> notice", so that they could concentrate on their big June studio opening
> for "Other Side of Midnight", but...times and current headlines must take
> precedence.
>
> Derek Janssen
> ejanss [at] comcast.net
The release was interesting around here. No, and I mean no publicity. But
at the national opening day, somehow word was out, and lines were around the
block.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268268 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 00:24 |
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Alpha wrote:
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>>Well, I WAS going to nostalgically rhapsodize how, prior to 1977, Memorial
>>Day was considered the "kiss of death" weekend for movies (well, everyone
>>would be barbecuing at the beach, wouldn't they?), and Fox originally let
>>Lucas have his bottle and dump the movie in a weekend where "no one would
>>notice", so that they could concentrate on their big June studio opening
>>for "Other Side of Midnight", but...times and current headlines must take
>>precedence.
>
> The release was interesting around here. No, and I mean no publicity. But
> at the national opening day, somehow word was out, and lines were around the
> block.
Although remember, they'd been doing grass-roots advertising of Lucas
and McQuarrie's design sketches at sci-fi/comic-book conventions for two
years before (yeah, those watercolor paintings that they kept selling in
the early days?)--
Think of it like "Sin City"'s opening, which had no mainstream publicity
known to man, but had an opening-day line fueled by Core-Geek Power...
Derek Janssen (who first heard about it from a Scholastic Magazine article)
ejanss [at] comcast.net
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268269 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 00:29 |
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Anybody wrote:
> In article <1148580117.251977.290540 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Harkness" <caliban43 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
> > anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
> >
> > Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
>
> Geez, the first reply in this topic is some idiot whiner. :-(
Unfortunately the whiners among fandom are extremely noisy.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268270 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 03:15 |
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"David B" <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44762FC3.5C18C330 [at] hotmail.com...
> Anybody wrote:
>
>> In article <1148580117.251977.290540 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Harkness" <caliban43 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
>> > anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
>> >
>> > Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
>>
>> Geez, the first reply in this topic is some idiot whiner. :-(
>
> Unfortunately the whiners among fandom are extremely noisy.
>
That's the problem with crossposting to five different newsgroups. I could
make a guess as to which two groups the offending poster did NOT come from.
29 years of Star Wars! I was only six years old when I saw the opening
crawl for the first time. I can hardly remember a time in my life when Star
Wars wasn't one of the main focuses. Let George release whatever versions
he wants in as many formats as he wants. If I feel good about buying any or
all of them, I will. And no art film snob can make me feel bad about my
decision. :-D
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--K (Proud Star Wars geek since 1977)
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268271 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 04:00 |
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"Harkness" <caliban43 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148580117.251977.290540 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
> anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
>
> Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
>
> John Harkness
>
Nah. He's just priming you up for the special edition HD-DVD/Blue Ray with
all deleted scenes WITH the option to play movie with deleted scenes. I
hope...
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268273 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 06:21 |
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("Lance Corporal \"Hammer\" Schultz" <starfist.at.gmail.dot.com>) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
> It would be physically incapable of him to do so. There are many
> collectors with prints of the original versions of the movies. Those
> prints could be used by professional film restorers to create a new
> high definition digital master of the movies that look far better than
> an LD master *that was not even state of the art when it was made*.
I hate to bring this up, but the laserdiscs from which the masters were
made were THX-certified. It was a requirement for THX-certification for
laserdiscs that the original telecine be done in high-def, and then the
laserdisc master be created from a down-conversion of that telecine.
This is also true for THX-certifed DVDs, so if the DVDs released this
fall are THX-certified, then there *must* be high-def masters somewhere.
--
Jeff Rife |
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268276 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 08:32 |
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Are you the only person who didn't see the dozens of TV ads for Sin
City? The wild postings on hoardings? The inescapable trailer?
They marketed the hell out of Sin City.
John Harkness
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268282 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 12:39 |
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caliban43wrote:
>Are you the only person who didn't see the dozens of TV ads for Sin
>City? The wild postings on hoardings? The inescapable trailer?
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No, as he said, he first heard about it from a Scholastic
Magazine article.
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-Jack
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268283 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 12:17 |
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Jeff Rife wrote:
> ("Lance Corporal \"Hammer\" Schultz" <starfist.at.gmail.dot.com>) wrote
> in alt.video.dvd:
>> It would be physically incapable of him to do so. There are many
>> collectors with prints of the original versions of the movies. Those
>> prints could be used by professional film restorers to create a new
>> high definition digital master of the movies that look far better than
>> an LD master *that was not even state of the art when it was made*.
>
> I hate to bring this up, but the laserdiscs from which the masters were
> made were THX-certified. It was a requirement for THX-certification for
> laserdiscs that the original telecine be done in high-def, and then the
> laserdisc master be created from a down-conversion of that telecine.
There was not even a _standard_ for high definition television when the THX
Laserdisc requirements were established. There might be "good quality"
masters somewhere but that doesn't mean that they contain 1920x1080
recordings.
> This is also true for THX-certifed DVDs, so if the DVDs released this
> fall are THX-certified, then there *must* be high-def masters somewhere.
Would you be kind enough to state a source for that. What I'm seeing is
that high definition masters can be certified but there is no requirement
that they be used for SD DVD production. Since any such master would have
to be transcoded to produce an SD DVD, with resulting generation loss, I
can't imagine such a thing being mandated in any case.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268286 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 16:40 |
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J. Clarke (jclarke.usenet [at] snet.net.invalid) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
> > I hate to bring this up, but the laserdiscs from which the masters were
> > made were THX-certified. It was a requirement for THX-certification for
> > laserdiscs that the original telecine be done in high-def, and then the
> > laserdisc master be created from a down-conversion of that telecine.
>
> There was not even a _standard_ for high definition television when the THX
> Laserdisc requirements were established.
Actually, the first THX laserdisc showed up in 1993, and Japan already
had HDTV at that time, *and* Hi-Vision laserdiscs had already been
released. Then, by 1995 when the "Faces" THX-certified discs came
along, HDTV *was* firmly established, and the THX laserdisc certification
program required the use of high-definition masters.
Just because HDTV is just beginning to really take off with the consumer
in the US doesn't mean it hasn't been around for a *long* time. Heck,
it's nine years old in the US.
> There might be "good quality"
> masters somewhere but that doesn't mean that they contain 1920x1080
> recordings.
It doesn't really matter. If they are at least 853x480 (in the 16x9
area), they can be used for full-resolution creation of anamorphic DVDs.
It may not be as good as a full HD source, but it will be 25% more
vertical resolution, and somewhat more horizontal.
> > This is also true for THX-certifed DVDs, so if the DVDs released this
> > fall are THX-certified, then there *must* be high-def masters somewhere.
>
> Would you be kind enough to state a source for that. What I'm seeing is
> that high definition masters can be certified but there is no requirement
> that they be used for SD DVD production.
Now that I read current requirements, there may not be any more, with
the continued slacking off of the THX standard. There was at the
inception of the program, to keep it in line with the laserdisc standard.
But, the wording of even the current standard would require Lucas to
go get some of those prints that are out there and clean them up and
do a new telecine, if he wants them THX-certified:
"THX's parameters define that film transfers used must come from the
highest possible resolution digital medium available to the client,
and stresses that high definition transfers should be used
throughout"
-- http://www.dvdreview.com/html/how_dvd_gets_thx_certified.htm l
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Jeff Rife | "Ahhh, what an awful dream! Ones and zeroes
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268288 ] |
Fr, 26 Mai 2006 21:23 |
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Karrde wrote:
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> That's the problem with crossposting to five different newsgroups.
Is there a newsgroup I posted to that was OT?
> I could make a guess as to which two groups the offending poster
> did NOT come from.
What two might those be?
> 29 years of Star Wars! I was only six years old when I saw the opening
> crawl for the first time.
I just graduated from college and was in the sumemr before grad school.
Yes, it was quite an experience.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268295 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 02:30 |
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"fgoodwin" <fgoodwin [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148671402.048731.185610 [at] 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Karrde wrote:
>>
>> That's the problem with crossposting to five different newsgroups.
>
> Is there a newsgroup I posted to that was OT?
No, but it would have caused less tension had it been posted separately to
each group. Not everyone who likes old movies or is interested in DVDs is a
SW fan.
>> I could make a guess as to which two groups the offending poster
>> did NOT come from.
>
> What two might those be?
AFS and RASSM. Star Wars fans generally do not bash each other for being
Star Wars fans.
>> 29 years of Star Wars! I was only six years old when I saw the opening
>> crawl for the first time.
>
> I just graduated from college and was in the sumemr before grad school.
> Yes, it was quite an experience.
So, you were older when it was released. Let me ask you a question. Do you
see a stark contrast between the OT and the PT as far as them being "kids'
movies"? Many who were kids when they saw Star Wars for the first time
think the new movies have a more juvenile feel. I must still be a kid at
heart, because I don't see a difference in the two trilogies where that is
concerned.
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--K
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268298 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 03:22 |
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Karrde wrote:
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> No, but it would have caused less tension had it been posted separately to
> each group. Not everyone who likes old movies or is interested in DVDs is a
> SW fan.
True -- but I thought there might be SW fans in each of those NGs. If
I offended with the x-post, I apologize.
> AFS and RASSM. Star Wars fans generally do not bash each other for being
> Star Wars fans.
I didn't think my post "bashed" anybody. It was a remembrance of a
significant event in time. What gave you the idea by posting it that I
was "bashing" SW fans? That certainly wasn't my intent.
> So, you were older when it was released. Let me ask you a question. Do you
> see a stark contrast between the OT and the PT as far as them being "kids'
> movies"? Many who were kids when they saw Star Wars for the first time
> think the new movies have a more juvenile feel. I must still be a kid at
> heart, because I don't see a difference in the two trilogies where that is
> concerned.
I can say I was extremely disappointed with the teddy-bear-like Ewoks.
It seemed at the time to be a not-so-transparent attempt to appeal to
the kiddie crowd. I had the same reaction to Jar-Jar, but my 5th grade
daughter and pre-K son loved him.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268299 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 03:27 |
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OK -- I think I misunderstood your post. I think now that you were
saying by my x-posting to non-SW groups, I basically opened the door
non-SW fans to bash the original post.
Please disregard my earlier post. I completely missed your meaning.
If that was your meaning, then I'd have to agree with you, and I again
apologize for mis-interpreting what you wrote.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268306 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 09:43 |
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"Harkness" <caliban43 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148593242.296648.58470 [at] j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Actually, it was the second reply.
>
> And I was more mocking Star Wars fans, rather than whining. I've no
> intention of acquiring any edition of any Star Wars films on DVD.
>
> Never had, never will.
Gee, really? Why don't you just fuck off then.
>
> John Harkness
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268307 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 10:34 |
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ah the cutting wit of the Star Wars geek.
still spanking to princess leia in the slave girl outfit?
John Harkness
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268309 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 15:42 |
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"fgoodwin" <fgoodwin [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148577036.168085.154140 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> May 25, 1977: Star Wars released
>
> http://www.historychannel.com/tdih/tdih.jsp?category=enterta inment&month=10272957&day=10272990
> http://tinyurl.com/mf3ex
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> Space fantasy Star Wars opens on this day in 1977.
Whhhooopp dee freekin' dooo.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268315 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 18:33 |
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Harkness wrote:
> ah the cutting wit of the Star Wars geek.
>
> still spanking to princess leia in the slave girl outfit?
>
> John Harkness
(Reporting, ladies and gentlemen, live from the Cannes film festival.)
Derek Janssen (John?...this is officially now Too Weird.)
ejanss [at] comcast.net
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268316 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 18:33 |
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Loretty wrote:
>
> Whhhooopp dee freekin' dooo.
Yep, Karrde was right . . .
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268317 ] |
Sa, 27 Mai 2006 19:16 |
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"Pek Jerkins" <kw25x [at] hotmail.com> said:
>Gee, really? Why don't you just fuck off then.
<<plonk>>
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268326 ] |
So, 28 Mai 2006 05:15 |
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"Rich Handley" <rhandley [at] optonline.net> wrote in message
news:kb2h725a10grlmt1bj2bb027jsa5q31qr1 [at] 4ax.com...
> "Pek Jerkins" <kw25x [at] hotmail.com> said:
>>Gee, really? Why don't you just fuck off then.
>
>
> <<plonk>>
>
Ahhh, the amazing shitemeister Rich Handley.
More appropriately Dick Handler.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268353 ] |
Mi, 31 Mai 2006 17:46 |
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> Why do I have a feeling that September's release is only the first in a
> string of upcoming releases for the original versions?
If the past is any indication, we will eventually see the original trilogy
released again in anamorphic widescreen with Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack
and an audio commentary.
Then we start all over with the HD-DVD and/or Blue Ray formats.
I'm not necessarily knocking George Lucas (or his companies), but they are
well known for extracting every last penny out of consumers.
As mentioned earlier, George once made the statement that "Star Wars" would
never be released on video (VHS) because it was meant to be seen on the big
screen.
After the "Star Trek -II: Wrath of Kahn" became the first low-priced video
release ($19.95 at a time when nearly all other movies we selling for
$60-$100 for a VHS copy) Lucas said "Star Wars" would never be priced that
low for consumers (meaning that it would remain priced for rental-only at
$100).
After releasing the '97 "Special Editions" on video in 2004, he said as far
as he was concerned the '97 Special Editions were the final version... that
until that time it was a 'work in progress' and now that they were
completed, that was the only version he would ever offer to consumers.
Of course we now know that his words mean nothing, but George does have the
right to say whatever he wants then change his mind.
I'm not knocking his business model, I'm just stating that historically, he
milks every last penny out of his products.
-Jim-
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268354 ] |
Mi, 31 Mai 2006 22:10 |
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fgoodwin wrote:
> May 25, 1977: Star Wars released
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> http://www.historychannel.com/tdih/tdih.jsp?category=enterta inment&month=10272957&day=10272990
> http://tinyurl.com/mf3ex
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> Space fantasy Star Wars opens on this day in 1977.
>
> The film became one of the most popular movies of all time, breaking
> box office records. Filmmaker George Lucas was nominated for Best
> Director and Best Screenwriter Oscars, and the film won seven Oscars
> for technical achievements and its musical score, written by John
> Williams.
>
> The movie was re-released with great fanfare in 1997.
I was 13 when it came out and I remember that it played in a lot of the
same theaters for more than a year. In fact, a special birthday cake
poster was issued on the one year anniversary. Even TITANIC only
seemed to play for maybe four months. A different world today, I
suppose, with so many more screens.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268361 ] |
Do, 01 Juni 2006 15:22 |
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In article <1149106233.785832.46210 [at] f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<jeffy3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I was 13 when it came out and I remember that it played in a lot of the
>same theaters for more than a year. In fact, a special birthday cake
>poster was issued on the one year anniversary. Even TITANIC only
>seemed to play for maybe four months. A different world today, I
>suppose, with so many more screens.
>
The big difference is, of course, home video. When the movie
is out on DVD within three months, the theatrical market
has to be short-lived. Frankly, I am glad I am not a theatre
owner in the present market.
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #268363 ] |
Do, 01 Juni 2006 18:15 |
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Michael Urban wrote:
> In article <1149106233.785832.46210 [at] f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> <jeffy3 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was 13 when it came out and I remember that it played in a lot of
>> the same theaters for more than a year. In fact, a special birthday
>> cake poster was issued on the one year anniversary. Even TITANIC
>> only seemed to play for maybe four months. A different world
>> today, I suppose, with so many more screens.
>>
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> The big difference is, of course, home video. When the movie
> is out on DVD within three months, the theatrical market
> has to be short-lived. Frankly, I am glad I am not a theatre
> owner in the present market.
Also, there were a lot less theaters then. In Seattle, _Star Wars_ played at
exactly one theater, the UA Cinema just north of the downtown business core.
Nowdays, of course, any big movie opens in one or two thousand screens
simultaneously.
--
Frank in Seattle
____
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
"Millennium hand and shrimp."
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| Re: May 25, 1977: Star Wars released [message #279392 ] |
Mi, 07 Juni 2006 16:53 |
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Derek Janssen wrote:
> Harkness wrote:
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> > And in 2006, Lucas decided to fuck his fans again, with the non
> > anamophic release of Star Wars and its sequels in their original form.
> >
> > Of course, George's fans were asking for it.
>
> The official company party-line is, George really *did* destroy the
> original prints, and all they had left to satisfy noisy fans with was
> the old '93 pre-SE LD masters in the vault.
>
> The thrust of the whole "skeptic" fan movement contradicting this seems
> to be based on:
> 1) "George is just greedy, so he can sell them again!" (thaaank you, next?)
> 2) "George is just throwing a tantrum because he doesn't want fans
> telling him different things about his movies than he believes!" (mmm,
> possible, but...)
> 3) "Oh, George wouldn't have been stupid enough to *really* destroy his
> old prints because he likes his new versions so much, would he?"
actually it 4) it contradicts what George and ILM said in the
documentaries about the making of the special edition about George
being a "packrat" and never throwing things aways, they were able to
recreate scenes digitally because they still had all the film elements
used to create it the first time, etc etc etc
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