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Music / Musik » alt.fan.frank-zappa » Conceptual continuity of other groups
Conceptual continuity of other groups [message #265611] Fr, 12 Mai 2006 12:21
marc rosen  
We all know about Frank's CC so I was wondering about other bands. The
Beatles summed up all of their CC in one song, Glass Onion, but the
rest of their catalogue was a bunch of individual songs (Experts,
correct me now). Devo had a few references from song to song, at least
on some boots and tapes.
Can anybody list other bands who used some type of CC througout their
song catalogue? (And this does not mean groups like Hootie and the
Blowfish whose entire repetoire sounds like the same crappy song.
Damn, every college kid who worked in our building played that stuff
like it was the best thing on earth. I could not escape)


Marc
Re: Conceptual continuity of other groups [message #265636 ] Fr, 12 Mai 2006 19:32
YesterdaysWafflez  
Great post idea!

Does this include 'musical CC' aswell?


I'd say Yes had a little. 'Relayer' mentioned in 'Topographic Oceans'
then producing 'Relayer'.
Similar theme riffs on 'Relayer' and earlier lps on 'Topo'.

I think I'm drifting more into musicianship vs CC. That is say Patrick
Moraz album 'i' has piano solos same as done on 'Relayer' tour.

Weather Report I'd say had some from their early albums, changing band
members as Zappa did but continuing phrases from previous lps.
'Sweetnighter' funky themes got more spacey on 'Mysterious Traveller'
but Alphonso Johnson keeping it funky and some riffs & breaks continued
to take pieces from previous songs.

Miles definitely had CC. Even album covers from Jack Johnson, Big Fun,
Bitches Brew. Even though most contained the 21min. jamming the bits of
melodies in them would later become 'Jean Pierre' or 'Star People' on
his comeback lps.


Just thinking about it in an instrumental way.
Or maybe I should have 'In a Silent Way'.



Thanks for the great Zappa info ya'll,

Y.W.
Re: Conceptual continuity of other groups [message #265654 ] Sa, 13 Mai 2006 03:33
Strictly Commercial  
marc rosen wrote:
> We all know about Frank's CC so I was wondering about other bands. The
> Beatles summed up all of their CC in one song, Glass Onion, but the
> rest of their catalogue was a bunch of individual songs (Experts,
> correct me now). Devo had a few references from song to song, at least
> on some boots and tapes.
> Can anybody list other bands who used some type of CC througout their
> song catalogue? (And this does not mean groups like Hootie and the
> Blowfish whose entire repetoire sounds like the same crappy song.
> Damn, every college kid who worked in our building played that stuff
> like it was the best thing on earth. I could not escape)

Do Firesign Theatre count?

Mudhead
Re: Conceptual continuity of other groups [message #265666 ] Sa, 13 Mai 2006 14:40
pbuzby2002  
marc rosen wrote:

> Can anybody list other bands who used some type of CC througout their
> song catalogue?

Aside from "Glass Onion," the Beatles also had the "She Loves You"
reference in "All You Need Is Love."

Phish did it a few times, particularly in their earlier songs.

Bruce Springsteen mentioned "Thunder Road" in a later song, "The
Promise." He also used the same line in multiple songs a few times, if
that counts as CC.

Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
Re: Conceptual continuity of other groups [message #265668 ] Sa, 13 Mai 2006 16:24
bam  
Todd quotes "Just One Victory", "Think of Me", "It's a Long Road", "I
Saw The Light", "A Dream Goes on Forever" and "Real Man" in Fair
Warning on Initiation.

The squid decor. Excuse me Todd.

- BAM
Re: Conceptual continuity of other groups [message #265676 ] So, 14 Mai 2006 00:16
Michael Gula  
Strictly Commercial wrote:

> marc rosen wrote:
>
>> We all know about Frank's CC so I was wondering about other bands. The
>> Beatles summed up all of their CC in one song, Glass Onion, but the
>> rest of their catalogue was a bunch of individual songs (Experts,
>> correct me now). Devo had a few references from song to song, at least
>> on some boots and tapes.
>> Can anybody list other bands who used some type of CC througout their
>> song catalogue? (And this does not mean groups like Hootie and the
>> Blowfish whose entire repetoire sounds like the same crappy song.
>> Damn, every college kid who worked in our building played that stuff
>> like it was the best thing on earth. I could not escape)
>
>
> Do Firesign Theatre count?
>
> Mudhead

Only to ten.
Re: Conceptual continuity of other groups [message #265690 ] So, 14 Mai 2006 19:50
Les Cargill  
pbuzby2002 [at] yahoo.com wrote:

> marc rosen wrote:
>
>
>>Can anybody list other bands who used some type of CC througout their
>>song catalogue?
>
>
> Aside from "Glass Onion," the Beatles also had the "She Loves You"
> reference in "All You Need Is Love."
>
> Phish did it a few times, particularly in their earlier songs.
>
> Bruce Springsteen mentioned "Thunder Road" in a later song, "The
> Promise." He also used the same line in multiple songs a few times, if
> that counts as CC.
>
> Pat Buzby
> Chicago, IL
>

I guess then that Tool would be the ultimate in CC, since they
effectively have one song, composed of probably hundreds of
installments by now.

It is a really good song...

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Les Cargill
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