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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz
{I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260624] Fr, 28 April 2006 21:35
Eric Jarvis  
Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to a broad
theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup. Two points for
the title of the song, two points for the performer, and an extra point
for how it relates to the theme. In some cases that should be extremely
obvious, in other it may well not be. At least it should be very difficult
to get no points at all. Getting the lot would seriously impress me.

There are a few in there that are obscure. There should only be one song
that pretty much nobody will know but many should be able to get the extra
point for it anyway. No googling, at least not until you get stuck.

1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan died"

2: "I can turn and walk away or I can fire the gun"

3: "That book by Nabakov"

4: "You shouldn’t come around here singing up at people like that"

5: "Please don’t put your life in the hands of a rock and roll band"

6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"

7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"

8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"

9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats"

10: "When logic and proportion have fallen softly dead"

11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming"

12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

13: "And the smile signals emptiness, for me"

14 "Just another lost journey where everything’s turning away"

15 "This world is big and wild and half insane"

16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"

17 "I’m not fit to even tune your guitar"

18 "Goes to show that you can't come and go as you please"

19 "My hair's electrically aware"

20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"

Enjoy or ignore as you wish.

--
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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260630 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 22:13
Matthew Seaman  
Eric Jarvis <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk> writes:

> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

The Theme from 'Goldfinger', sung by Shirley Bassey.

The only one I have the slightest clue about.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: [I] Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260635 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 22:19
sphira9343  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to a broad
> theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup. Two points for
> the title of the song, two points for the performer, and an extra point
> for how it relates to the theme.

> 2: "I can turn and walk away or I can fire the gun"

Don't know the song or performer, but the theme appears to be firearms

> 3: "That book by Nabakov"

The Police, "Don't Stand So Close To Me". Theme - education (recently
covered in the megathread) and probably also teenage sex (ditto)

> 4: "You shouldn't come around here singing up at people like that"

Dire Straits "Juliet" (which may, now I come to think of it, be called
'Romeo and Juliet'). Theme - not sure

> 5: "Please don't put your life in the hands of a rock and roll band"

Oasis "Don't Look Back In Anger". Theme - letting your anger get the
better of you, etc, covered in the megathread.

> 6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"

Hmmm...is there wine in this somewhere?

> 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"

Don't know song or performer. Theme - Stacie's recent threat/promise to
turn people into frogs at the Con

> 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"

Well, if there's not a conversation about leather going on at the
moment, it's never far away here!

> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

Shirley Bassey, 'Goldfinger'. Theme may be to do with the next line,
"A spider's touch".

> 18 "Goes to show that you can't come and go as you please"

Recent condom thread?

Will enjoy seeing what the others are.
CCA
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260640 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 22:39
Nigel Stapley  
Eric Jarvis wrote:

> 3: "That book by Nabakov"

"Don't Stand So Close To Me" - The Police. Sent up by the HeeBeeGeeBees,
with the line, "Like that guy in the book by Solzhenitsyn".

>
> 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"

"Venus In Furs" - Velvet Underground. Prefer Half Man Half Biscuit's
"Venus In Flares".

>
> 10: "When logic and proportion have fallen softly dead"

"White Rabbit" - Jefferson Airplane. Heard a great club version of that
once on Peel's show.

> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

"Goldfinger" by Burly Chassis.

> 19 "My hair's electrically aware"

"Steppenwolf" by Hawkwind. Lyrics by the wonderful, late, lamented
Robert Calvert.

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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260641 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 22:40
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Eric Jarvis:

> Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a
> link to a broad theme that is appropriate (in theory) to
> this newsgroup. Two points for the title of the song, two
> points for the performer, and an extra point for how it
> relates to the theme. In some cases that should be
> extremely obvious, in other it may well not be. At least it
> should be very difficult to get no points at all. Getting
> the lot would seriously impress me.
>
> There are a few in there that are obscure. There should
> only be one song that pretty much nobody will know but many
> should be able to get the extra point for it anyway. No
> googling, at least not until you get stuck.

I'm not clear if there's one theme that they all relate to in
different ways, or if they all relate to a different relevent
theme. I've therefore held off on attemting that bit 'till I
get clarification.

> 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"

"In Your Own World" by Shakespeare's Sister.

> 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"

Oh... *heck*. I've heard it, but I have no idea what it's
called or who it's by.

> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

Goldfinger by Shirley Bassey.

--
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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260647 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 22:59
Orjan Westin  
Eric Jarvis wrote:

All right, so most of the simple ones (Goldfinger, Romeo and Juliet,
Don't stand so close to me) have been taken, but Daibhid got the wrong
title on another one.

> 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"

The song's called "Stay", though.

> 16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"

Tori Amos, though I don't know the name. I was listening to that on the
train today, actually.

If it's a common theme to all songs, I'd say "Forbidden Love".

Orjan
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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260650 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 23:15
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called 4bfe26F11foq7U1 [at] individual.net,
Orjan Westin uttered thus:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> All right, so most of the simple ones (Goldfinger, Romeo and Juliet,
> Don't stand so close to me) have been taken, but Daibhid got the
> wrong title on another one.
>
> > 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"
>
> The song's called "Stay", though.

By Shakespeare's Sister.

I always heard the lyric as "can't break the spell", which is why I
didn't recognise it until now.



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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260651 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 23:18
bethbriuk  
Orjan Westin wrote:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> All right, so most of the simple ones (Goldfinger, Romeo and Juliet,
> Don't stand so close to me) have been taken, but Daibhid got the wrong
> title on another one.
>
Snip
>
> If it's a common theme to all songs, I'd say "Forbidden Love".
>
Could well be! I assume that "That Book by Nabokhov" is "Lolita"
The only other reference I got was the Goldfinger one.

BriD
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260653 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 23:33
Torak  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to a broad
> theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup. Two points for
> the title of the song, two points for the performer, and an extra point
> for how it relates to the theme. In some cases that should be extremely
> obvious, in other it may well not be. At least it should be very difficult
> to get no points at all. Getting the lot would seriously impress me.
>
> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

Goldfinger. Shirley Bassey, wasn't it?

Either I need to listen more carefully to the lyrics, or my music
collection has absolutely no overlap with yours. :-D
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260658 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 23:13
Eric Jarvis  
Orjan Westin nospam [at] cunobaros.com wrote in
<4bfe26F11foq7U1 [at] individual.net>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> All right, so most of the simple ones (Goldfinger, Romeo and Juliet,
> Don't stand so close to me) have been taken, but Daibhid got the wrong
> title on another one.
>
> > 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"
>
> The song's called "Stay", though.

Pretty much their only hit IIRC.

> > 16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"
>
> Tori Amos, though I don't know the name. I was listening to that on the
> train today, actually.
>
> If it's a common theme to all songs, I'd say "Forbidden Love".
>

Cold. It's more obvious than that.

--
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"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260659 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 23:17
Eric Jarvis  
Nigel Stapley unet [at] judgemental.plus.com wrote in
<44527d93$0$2530$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> > 3: "That book by Nabakov"
>
> "Don't Stand So Close To Me" - The Police. Sent up by the HeeBeeGeeBees,
> with the line, "Like that guy in the book by Solzhenitsyn".
>
> >
> > 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"
>
> "Venus In Furs" - Velvet Underground. Prefer Half Man Half Biscuit's
> "Venus In Flares".
>

Haven't heard that in ages. I really don't have anywhere near enough of
their stuff.

> >
> > 10: "When logic and proportion have fallen softly dead"
>
> "White Rabbit" - Jefferson Airplane. Heard a great club version of that
> once on Peel's show.
>
> > 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"
>
> "Goldfinger" by Burly Chassis.
>
> > 19 "My hair's electrically aware"
>
> "Steppenwolf" by Hawkwind. Lyrics by the wonderful, late, lamented
> Robert Calvert.
>

And my favourite line in the quiz. It's a great line in the song but has a
somewhat disconcerting beauty when all context is removed. :)

--
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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260660 ] Fr, 28 April 2006 23:21
Eric Jarvis  
Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
<Xns97B3DC89DE6E6daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
> Also Sprach Eric Jarvis:
>
> > Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a
> > link to a broad theme that is appropriate (in theory) to
> > this newsgroup. Two points for the title of the song, two
> > points for the performer, and an extra point for how it
> > relates to the theme. In some cases that should be
> > extremely obvious, in other it may well not be. At least it
> > should be very difficult to get no points at all. Getting
> > the lot would seriously impress me.
> >
> > There are a few in there that are obscure. There should
> > only be one song that pretty much nobody will know but many
> > should be able to get the extra point for it anyway. No
> > googling, at least not until you get stuck.
>
> I'm not clear if there's one theme that they all relate to in
> different ways, or if they all relate to a different relevent
> theme. I've therefore held off on attemting that bit 'till I
> get clarification.
>

One theme, sort of relevant to afp.

> > 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"
>
> "In Your Own World" by Shakespeare's Sister.
>

Right band, wrong title.

> > 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"
>
> Oh... *heck*. I've heard it, but I have no idea what it's
> called or who it's by.
>

This is where I get to frown and say "you young people" in a disapproving
voice.

> > 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"
>
> Goldfinger by Shirley Bassey.
>

Yes. The infamous Bond theme song that by some catastrophic error ended up
having a tune.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260663 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 00:21
Louise Mac Mahon  
"Eric Jarvis" <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ebc7ee24dd9c81f989b62 [at] cenote.gkhs.net...
>
> 1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan died"
playwright and author mentioned

> 3: "That book by Nabakov"
another author
no Brits so far
>
> 4: "You shouldn't come around here singing up at people like that"
ok the bard is mentioned, or at least one play

> 6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"
another brace of literary dudes

> 9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats"
a poet
>
>
> 11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming"
painting by Munch?
>
> 20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"
another literary reference

so some are referencing thinkers/artists/writers, not improbably for this
group

also a fair bit of forbidden/doomed love, but that's popular music for you

ooh fun
Louise
lousy on titles and artists, of course I *knew* all the ones other people
jumped in with :-) Knopfler, Police, pah.
um
so who are all the other ones ....
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260668 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 00:30
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called MPG.1ebc95cb552541b7989b63 [at] cenote.gkhs.net,
Eric Jarvis uttered thus:
> Orjan Westin nospam [at] cunobaros.com wrote in
> <4bfe26F11foq7U1 [at] individual.net>:
> > Eric Jarvis wrote:
> >
> > All right, so most of the simple ones (Goldfinger, Romeo and
> > Juliet, Don't stand so close to me) have been taken, but Daibhid
> > got the wrong title on another one.
> >
> > > 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"
> >
> > The song's called "Stay", though.
>
> Pretty much their only hit IIRC.
>
> > > 16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"
> >
> > Tori Amos, though I don't know the name. I was listening to that
> > on the train today, actually.
> >
> > If it's a common theme to all songs, I'd say "Forbidden Love".
> >
>
> Cold. It's more obvious than that.

It wouldn't be the monster thread I've just kf'ed, would it?

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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260671 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 00:34
Ssirienna  
"Eric Jarvis" <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ebc7ee24dd9c81f989b62 [at] cenote.gkhs.net...
> Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to a broad
> theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup. Two points for
> the title of the song, two points for the performer, and an extra point
> for how it relates to the theme. In some cases that should be extremely
> obvious, in other it may well not be. At least it should be very difficult
> to get no points at all. Getting the lot would seriously impress me.
>
>
> 4: "You shouldn't come around here singing up at people like that"

Dire Straits
"Romeo & Juliet"

>
> 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"

Shakespeare's Sister
"Stay"
>
> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

Shirley Bassey?
"Goldfinger"

No idea yet for a theme - especially considering the
ones I knew :-)

Ssirienna
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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260672 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 00:34
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Louise Mac Mahon:

>
> "Eric Jarvis" <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1ebc7ee24dd9c81f989b62 [at] cenote.gkhs.net...
>>
>> 1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan
>> died"
> playwright and author mentioned
>
>> 3: "That book by Nabakov"
> another author
> no Brits so far
>>
>> 4: "You shouldn't come around here singing up at people
>> like that"
> ok the bard is mentioned, or at least one play
>
>> 6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"
> another brace of literary dudes
>
>> 9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats"
> a poet
>>
>>
>> 11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming"
> painting by Munch?
>>
>> 20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"
> another literary reference
>
> so some are referencing thinkers/artists/writers, not
> improbably for this group

Ooh! Specifically writers! 11 refers to "I Have No Mouth But I
Must Scream" by Harlan Ellison. And then there's
*Shakespeare*'s Sister, and Goldfinger was, of course, a book
by Alexander Fleming.

Okay, now that I know the theme, I'm going to have another
look...

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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260676 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 00:48
sphira9343  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in

> > I'm not clear if there's one theme that they all relate to in
> > different ways, or if they all relate to a different relevent
> > theme. I've therefore held off on attemting that bit 'till I
> > get clarification.

> One theme, sort of relevant to afp.

Oh, *one* theme?

*feels like an idiot*

In that case, please disregard my post above. Apart from the song
titles and performers, anyway...

CCA
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260677 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 00:49
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Eric Jarvis:

Okay, on the assumption that the connection is writers (thanks
Louise), here's my ideas. I haven't Googled any of the lyrics
yet (although I have checked a couple of names).

Thanks to everyone who ID'ed what the songs actually *are*. As
you can see, this helps...

> 1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan
> died"

Brendan Behan.

> 2: "I can turn and walk away or I can fire the gun"

Might this be a reference to Chekhov's Gun, and hence to Anton
Chekhov?

> 3: "That book by Nabakov"

Vladimir Nabokov.

> 4: "You shouldn’t come around here singing up at people
> like that"

William Shakespeare ("Romeo and Juliet").

> 5: "Please don’t put your life in the hands of a rock and
> roll band"

John Osborne ("[Don't] Look Back in Anger").

> 6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"

Paul Verlaine and Arthur Rimbaud.

> 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"

William Shakespeare (in the band name).

> 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"

I *think* "Venus in Furs" is the title of a book, but I don't
know who it's by.

> 9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats"

John Keats.

> 10: "When logic and proportion have fallen softly dead"
>
> 11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming"

Harlan Ellison, author of "I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream".

> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

Ian Fleming, author of "Goldfinger". (Also whichever Greek
mythmaker first came up with King Midas.)

> 13: "And the smile signals emptiness, for me"
>
> 14 "Just another lost journey where everything’s turning
> away"
>
> 15 "This world is big and wild and half insane"
>
> 16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"

This has a J.M. Barrieish feel to it. Although if it's Tori
Amos there's probably a Neil Gaiman ref elsewhere in the
song...

> 17 "I’m not fit to even tune your guitar"
>
> 18 "Goes to show that you can't come and go as you please"
>
> 19 "My hair's electrically aware"

Since it's Hawkwind, probably Michael Moorcock.

> 20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"

Carlos Casteneda.

> Enjoy or ignore as you wish.
>



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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260680 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 00:58
Nigel Stapley  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

> ...and Goldfinger was, of course, a book
> by Alexander Fleming.

Yur...he wrote it just before he discovered penicillin... ;-)


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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260683 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 01:03
Nigel Stapley  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

>
>> 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"
>
> I *think* "Venus in Furs" is the title of a book, but I don't
> know who it's by.

Sacher-Masoch I think.


>> 19 "My hair's electrically aware"
>
> Since it's Hawkwind, probably Michael Moorcock.

Nothing so crap, for once. Hesse. Robert Calvert's literary knowledge
was rather broader than that of the rest of the group. Hence, when he
was a member of the band, they also used ideas/titles from better
writers: Zelazny ("Damnation Alley"), Spinrad ("The Iron Dream"), etc.

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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260686 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 01:25
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Nigel Stapley:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>> ...and Goldfinger was, of course, a book
>> by Alexander Fleming.
>
> Yur...he wrote it just before he discovered penicillin...
> ;-)

My mistake. That was Mouldfinger...


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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260687 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 01:29
Brian Howlett  
On 28 Apr, Eric Jarvis wrote:

> Here are twenty lines from songs.

[snip]

Answers to the few I know, without looking at the rest of the thread..
>
> 3: "That book by Nabakov"

The Police - Don't Stand So Close To Me
>
> 4: "You shouldn't come around here singing up at people like that"

Dire Straits - Romeo and Juliet

[snip]
>
> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

Shirley Bassey - Goldfinger
>
[snip]
>
> 20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"

Alabama 3 - Ain't Goin' To Goa
>
> Enjoy or ignore as you wish.
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Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260691 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 01:41
Eric Jarvis  
Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
<Xns97B3F254B17A0daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
> Also Sprach Eric Jarvis:
>
> Okay, on the assumption that the connection is writers (thanks
> Louise), here's my ideas. I haven't Googled any of the lyrics
> yet (although I have checked a couple of names).
>
> Thanks to everyone who ID'ed what the songs actually *are*. As
> you can see, this helps...
>
> > 1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan
> > died"
>
> Brendan Behan.

Of course.

>
> > 2: "I can turn and walk away or I can fire the gun"
>
> Might this be a reference to Chekhov's Gun, and hence to Anton
> Chekhov?
>

No. Though you are young enough to be forgiven not getting this one.

> > 3: "That book by Nabakov"
>
> Vladimir Nabokov.
>

Naturally.

> > 4: "You shouldn’t come around here singing up at people
> > like that"
>
> William Shakespeare ("Romeo and Juliet").

Indeed, the obligatory Bard reference.

> > 5: "Please don’t put your life in the hands of a rock and
> > roll band"
>
> John Osborne ("[Don't] Look Back in Anger").

MAximum points :)

> > 6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"
>
> Paul Verlaine and Arthur Rimbaud.

The very same.

> > 7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"
>
> William Shakespeare (in the band name).

The gratuitous Bard reference.

> > 8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"
>
> I *think* "Venus in Furs" is the title of a book, but I don't
> know who it's by.

It is indeed the title of a book.

> > 9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats"
>
> John Keats.

Yes, and my favourite line in the quiz.

> > 10: "When logic and proportion have fallen softly dead"
> >
> > 11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming"
>
> Harlan Ellison, author of "I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream".

Correct. The song itself is very obscure and I just put it in to see who
could get there directly from the line.

> > 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"
>
> Ian Fleming, author of "Goldfinger". (Also whichever Greek
> mythmaker first came up with King Midas.)

I suspect Midas doesn't really count.

> > 13: "And the smile signals emptiness, for me"
> >
> > 14 "Just another lost journey where everything’s turning
> > away"
> >
> > 15 "This world is big and wild and half insane"
> >
> > 16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"
>
> This has a J.M. Barrieish feel to it. Although if it's Tori
> Amos there's probably a Neil Gaiman ref elsewhere in the
> song...
>

On the cold side of lukewarm.

> > 17 "I’m not fit to even tune your guitar"
> >
> > 18 "Goes to show that you can't come and go as you please"
> >
> > 19 "My hair's electrically aware"
>
> Since it's Hawkwind, probably Michael Moorcock.
>

Fraid not.

> > 20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"
>
> Carlos Casteneda.
>

Finishing as it started with a clue to the theme.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260706 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 02:08
Eric Jarvis  
Brian Howlett news-spamtrap [at] brianhowlett.me.uk wrote in
<1df7e11e4e.Brian [at] brianhowlett.me.uk>:
> On 28 Apr, Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Here are twenty lines from songs.
>
> [snip]
>
> Answers to the few I know, without looking at the rest of the thread..
> >
> > 3: "That book by Nabakov"
>
> The Police - Don't Stand So Close To Me
> >
> > 4: "You shouldn't come around here singing up at people like that"
>
> Dire Straits - Romeo and Juliet
>
> [snip]
> >
> > 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"
>
> Shirley Bassey - Goldfinger
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > 20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"
>
> Alabama 3 - Ain't Goin' To Goa
>

All spot on.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260737 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 09:06
Flesh-eating Dragon  
Eric Jarvis wrote:

> Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to a broad
> theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup. Two points for
> the title of the song, two points for the performer, and an extra point
> for how it relates to the theme. In some cases that should be extremely
> obvious, in other it may well not be.

OK.

> At least it should be very difficult to get no points at all.

Ummm....

There is not a single line that I recognise, but I do notice the
following themes, relevant to afp or recurring thread topics: Guns
(2), Books (3, 20), Leather (8), Alchohol (9), Megathreads (10),
Insanity (15: half relevant). Oh, and Rimbaud starts with the same
letter as Rincewind (6).

I'm posting this without having read anyone else's responses. Do I get
any points?

Adrian.
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260746 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 10:13
Eric Jarvis  
8'FED dragon [at] netyp.com.au wrote in <e2v387$hr3$1 [at] mud.stack.nl>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to a broad
> > theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup. Two points for
> > the title of the song, two points for the performer, and an extra point
> > for how it relates to the theme. In some cases that should be extremely
> > obvious, in other it may well not be.
>
> OK.
>
> > At least it should be very difficult to get no points at all.
>
> Ummm....
>
> There is not a single line that I recognise, but I do notice the
> following themes, relevant to afp or recurring thread topics: Guns
> (2), Books (3, 20), Leather (8), Alchohol (9), Megathreads (10),
> Insanity (15: half relevant). Oh, and Rimbaud starts with the same
> letter as Rincewind (6).
>
> I'm posting this without having read anyone else's responses. Do I get
> any points?
>

Two. :)

AS I said it should be pretty difficult to get no points at all. You'd
need to have listened to very little popular music over the last few
decades and be close to illiterate. I'm working on the basis that anyone
who can't get at least a point or two probably isn't going to find their
way to afp.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260747 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 11:04
Petri Sakari Holopain  
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:35:48 +0100, Eric Jarvis <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk>
wrote:

>Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to
>a broad theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup.

>15 "This world is big and wild and half insane"

"Animal Farm" - The Kinks. It's the only song I knew right away, but
it's one of my favourites from them. And since the theme is writers,
it's George Orwell.

Petri
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260764 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 13:25
eero.suoranta  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

> Okay, on the assumption that the connection is writers (thanks
> Louise), here's my ideas. I haven't Googled any of the lyrics
> yet (although I have checked a couple of names).
>
> Thanks to everyone who ID'ed what the songs actually *are*. As
> you can see, this helps...

> > 10: "When logic and proportion have fallen softly dead"

Since the song was "White Rabbit", Lewis Carroll.
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260766 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 13:20
Eric Jarvis  
Petri Holopainen petri.holopainen [at] kymp.net wrote in
<q2a652tnt8q67tlkn2r8vcoprvm6n57p52 [at] 4ax.com>:
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:35:48 +0100, Eric Jarvis <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Here are twenty lines from songs. In each case there is a link to
> >a broad theme that is appropriate (in theory) to this newsgroup.
>
> >15 "This world is big and wild and half insane"
>
> "Animal Farm" - The Kinks. It's the only song I knew right away, but
> it's one of my favourites from them. And since the theme is writers,
> it's George Orwell.
>

Well spotted. One of my favourites too.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260767 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 14:23
Anke  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> AS I said it should be pretty difficult to get no points at all.
> You'd need to have listened to very little popular music over
> the last few decades and be close to illiterate. I'm working
> on the basis that anyone who can't get at least a point or
> two probably isn't going to find their way to afp.

Eh. I might have managed. I recognised none of the lines (hey,
the good thing about listening to music in a language other
than your native one is that it's easier to ignore the lyrics -
lyrics are embarrassingly stupid 99% of the time, IME),
therefore none of the musicians.
"Keats" I might have recognised as "Writer or poet or
something", but wouldn't have linked that to any theme.
Goldfinger I've heard at some point, I recognise the names
Dire Straits, Oasis, Velvet Underground, Jefferson Airplane
(I have "We Built this City" recorded somewhere, but I think they
might have been Jefferson Starship at that point already),
Tori Amos and (possibly) The Police, but I'm drawing nothing
but blanks on the song titles.

My suggestions would have been:

> 2: "I can turn and walk away or I can fire the gun"
Men at Arms

> 4: "You shouldn't come around here singing up at people like that"
> 5: "Please don't put your life in the hands of a rock and roll band"
both Soul Music

> 12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"
Glod

> 19 "My hair's electrically aware"
Susan Sto Helit

Anke
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260787 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 15:59
Leo Breebaart  
"Anke" <anke.wehner [at] gmail.com> writes:

> I recognise the names Dire Straits, Oasis, Velvet Underground,
> Jefferson Airplane (I have "We Built this City" recorded
> somewhere, but I think they might have been Jefferson Starship
> at that point already)

Worse, by that time they had gone past 'Jefferson Starship' and
were just 'Starship'. Rarely has a line in a song been so
ironically applicable as "Someone's always playing corporation
games / Who cares, they're always changing corporation names" in
'We Build This City'.

The fact that you are actually aware that J. Airplane turned into
J. Starship would've been good for at least two points if this
had been my quiz.

(If it'd been my quiz it also would've been so mainstream that
the Police would've been the *difficult* one to spot. :-))

--
Leo Breebaart <leo [at] lspace.org>
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260788 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 15:31
Eric Jarvis  
The story so far (and who spotted each bit of the answer).

1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan died"

Refers to Brendan Behan (Louise Mac Mahon)

2: "I can turn and walk away or I can fire the gun"

3: "That book by Nabakov"

The Police, "Don't Stand So Close To Me" (CCA) Refers to Vladimir Nabakov
(Louise Mac Mahon)

4: "You shouldn’t come around here singing up at people like that"

Dire Straits 'Romeo and Juliet' (CCA) Refers to Shakespeare's play
(Louise Mac Mahon)

5: "Please don’t put your life in the hands of a rock and roll band"

Oasis "Don't Look Back In Anger" (CCA) Refers to John Osborne's play
(Daibhid Ceanaideach)

6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"

Refers to Paul Verlaine and Arthur Rimbaud (Louise Mac Mahon)

7: "Only time will tell if you can break the spell"

Shakespeare's Sister (Daibhid Ceanaideach) "Stay" (Orjan Westin) Refers to
Shakespeare (Daibhid Ceanaideach)

8: "Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather"

"Venus In Furs" - Velvet Underground. Refers to the book by Leopold von
Sacher-Masoch (Nigel Stapley)

9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats"

Refers to John Keats (Louise Mac Mahon)

10: "When logic and proportion have fallen softly dead"

"White Rabbit" - Jefferson Airplane (Nigel Stapley) Refers to Alice in
Wonderland by Lewis Carroll (ES)

11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming"

Refers to Harlan Ellison (Daibhid Ceanaideach)

12: "He's the man, the man with Midas touch"

Shirley Bassey, 'Goldfinger'. (CCA) Refers to the book by Ian Fleming
(Nigel Stapley)

13: "And the smile signals emptiness, for me"

14 "Just another lost journey where everything’s turning away"

15 "This world is big and wild and half insane"

"Animal Farm" - The Kinks Refers to the book by George Orwell (Petri
Holopainen)

16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"

Tori Amos (Orjan Westin)

17 "I’m not fit to even tune your guitar"

18 "Goes to show that you can't come and go as you please"

19 "My hair's electrically aware"

"Steppenwolf" by Hawkwind Refers to the book by Herman Hesse (Nigel
Stapley)

20 "Ain't no call for Casteneda in my frontline library"

Alabama 3 - "Ain't Goin' To Goa" (Brian Howlett) Refers to Carlos
Castaneda (Louise Mac Mahon)

So. As yet unsullied.

13: "And the smile signals emptiness, for me"

14 "Just another lost journey where everything’s turning away"

17 "I’m not fit to even tune your guitar"

18 "Goes to show that you can't come and go as you please"

And still incomplete

1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan died" (still
needs song and title) hint, it's not actually Irish

6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud" (still needs song and title)
I'm certain at least one afper will know this instantly

9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats" (still needs song and
title) hint, mid 1980s and Scottish

11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming" (still needs song
and title) hint, I don't expect anyone to get this, I don't even have a
copy, however lateral thinking might lead to it without the use of a
search engine

16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come" (needs song title and
reference)

So that's 11 out of twenty already done.

In the itchy trigger finger stakes, CCA was first to post 16 points worth
of answers, narrowly ahead of Nigel Stapley's 15. After that we have
Louise MacMahon 6, Daibhid Ceanaideach and Petri Holopainen 5 each, Orjan
Westin and Brian Howlett 4 each, and ES with 1.

That gives a huge lead to Wales in the afpovision song contest with 39
points still to go.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260791 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 16:51
Flesh-eating Dragon  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> 8'FED wrote:

>> I'm posting this without having read anyone else's responses. Do I get
>> any points?
>
> Two. :)

For noticing that lyrics that mention the words "book" and "library"
tie into a literary theme.

Should be bonus points for lateral thinking, and my answer for (6)
should've come close. :-)

I oversaw a music quiz on afp once, but that was before your time
(not that I can remember what year you joined afp, Eric).
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.pratchett/msg/d734235 2bd295570
I'm probably a wiser poster than I was in those days, but I don't
think I did anything *too* embarrassing.

Adrian.
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260792 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 16:21
Eric Jarvis  
Leo Breebaart leo [at] lspace.org wrote in <4bh9poF11jb6mU1 [at] individual.net>:
> "Anke" <anke.wehner [at] gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I recognise the names Dire Straits, Oasis, Velvet Underground,
> > Jefferson Airplane (I have "We Built this City" recorded
> > somewhere, but I think they might have been Jefferson Starship
> > at that point already)
>
> Worse, by that time they had gone past 'Jefferson Starship' and
> were just 'Starship'. Rarely has a line in a song been so
> ironically applicable as "Someone's always playing corporation
> games / Who cares, they're always changing corporation names" in
> 'We Build This City'.
>
> The fact that you are actually aware that J. Airplane turned into
> J. Starship would've been good for at least two points if this
> had been my quiz.
>

I'm with you on that one. So everybody who can't tell Jefferson Starship
from Jefferson Hangglider gets three points.

> (If it'd been my quiz it also would've been so mainstream that
> the Police would've been the *difficult* one to spot. :-))
>

Most of it is mainstream. It's just mainstream over several decades and
including some gifts for specific subcultures. There are only three really
obscure songs in there, and I know for certain that at least two of them
are known to at least some afpers.

I'm in the process of putting together a rather larger (and even more
appropriate) lyrics quiz. I'm putting a few in there specifically for the
afpfunk posse. [1] :)

[1] And some for the goths, some for the geeks, some for the old fogeys,
some for the young whippersnappers, some for Rocky, some for Pterry, and
just a few I hope will be intriguing enough lines to get people to find
out about the songs they are from.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260793 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 17:11
PeterH  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> AS I said it should be pretty difficult to get no points at all. You'd
> need to have listened to very little popular music over the last few
> decades and be close to illiterate. I'm working on the basis that anyone
> who can't get at least a point or two probably isn't going to find their
> way to afp.

Grr. Okay, I really did get no points at all, so here's my retaliation:


1. "Can't anybody see we've got a war to fight?"

2. "This is the time to stare at the skies in wonder."

3. "My dog needs new ears."

4. "Skinima Nosebreak, Fatima Toothpaste, Penelope Cheapskate, Claudia
Farmgate."
(heh!)

5. "I won't care for you like I'm really supposed to."

6. "I'm trying not to move, it's just your ghost passing through."

7. "I know I was born and I know that I'll die."

8. "Caught up between being a father and a prima donna..."

9. "Mascara bleeds a blackened tear."

10. "So you'll be an Austrian nobleman, commissioning a symphony in C."
(This one you either get it or you don't.)

11. "Enjoy your nightmares while you're resting your head."

12. "TV's dead, there ain't no war in my head, and you seem very
beautiful to me."

13. "You have not betrayed your ideals, your ideals betrayed you."

14. "We don't bother anyone, we keep to ourselves. The mailman visits
each of us in turn."

15. "How can you grow old, you were my triumph."

16. "Just because you feel it doesn't mean it's there."

17. "He says all the right things at exactly the right times."

18. "Don't you ever fear, I'm always there. I know that you need help."

19. "You're essentially an employee and I like you having to depend on
me."
(This song has been discussed here before, as I recall.)

20. "Now if I could just understand this, I might then try
forgiveness."
(Obligatory South African entry.)

(That was fun!)

I must say, lyrics look a whole lot better written down like this.
Stripped of most of their context, they almost look as if they could
mean something. I'm not too fond of lyrics mucking up the music I'm
trying to listen to (I'm a bit leery of poetry too) - which probably
explains why I perfomed so dismally at your quiz.

Another reason may be that I'm quite capable of forgetting my own
birthday. Still I wondered at first why I didn't at least get your Tori
Amos lyric. But that was just my own fault for giving away her last two
albums after finding them both unlistenable.


...PeterH
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260794 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 17:19
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Peter Davies:

> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>>
>> AS I said it should be pretty difficult to get no points
>> at all. You'd need to have listened to very little popular
>> music over the last few decades and be close to
>> illiterate. I'm working on the basis that anyone who can't
>> get at least a point or two probably isn't going to find
>> their way to afp.
>
> Grr. Okay, I really did get no points at all,

Would I be right in thinking that, sans any idea what the
songs were, you didn't have a go at the theme? I'm sure you'd
have got *some* points out of that. (After all, I got six
points, and I was only able to ID one band, and no songs.)

> so here's my retaliation:

Nope, I didn't recognise any of them. Oh, but one did ring a
very faint bell...

> 19. "You're essentially an employee and I like you having
> to depend on me."
> (This song has been discussed here before, as I recall.)

Ooh, is it that Alanis Morissette one that Marco worked into
the Tale?


--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260804 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 19:28
Diane L  
Peter Davies wrote:

> Grr. Okay, I really did get no points at all, so here's my
> retaliation:

I got three on Eric's (all of which had been got before), and
only one on yours.

> 8. "Caught up between being a father and a prima donna..."

Eninem, 'Lose Yourself'.

Diane L.
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260813 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 21:15
eero.suoranta  
Eric Jarvis wrote:

> In the itchy trigger finger stakes, CCA was first to post 16 points worth
> of answers, narrowly ahead of Nigel Stapley's 15. After that we have
> Louise MacMahon 6, Daibhid Ceanaideach and Petri Holopainen 5 each, Orjan
> Westin and Brian Howlett 4 each, and ES with 1.
>
> That gives a huge lead to Wales in the afpovision song contest with 39
> points still to go.

It's got to be a curse.
Finland always comes last...
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260824 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 21:30
Anke  
I don't know my music, but I have an inkling of how to use
google...

Well, more interesting that staring at the lines and
recognising nothing.
I *like* quizzes.




> 1: "He swears that he was there the day that Brendan Behan died"
Mighty Mighty Bosstones, "All Things Considered"

> 2: "I can turn and walk away or I can fire the gun"
The Cure, "Killing an Arab"

> 6: "Mine've been like Verlaine's and Rimbaud"
Bob Dylan, "You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go"

> 9: "Bottle merchants both of us, overdosed on Keats"
Aztec Camera, "Release"

> 11: "So now I've got no mouth but I'm still screaming"
Wow, one whole hit on google...
The Jazz Butcher Conspiracy, "Harlan"

> 13: "And the smile signals emptiness, for me"
King Crimson, "Starless and Bible Black"

Also on that album is a song titled "The Night Watch"...

> 14 "Just another lost journey where everything's turning away"
Soul Asylum, "Gullible's Travels"
Reference to Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift.

> 16 "I wake up to find the pirates have come"
>
> Tori Amos (Orjan Westin)
"Jamaica Inn"

> 17 "I'm not fit to even tune your guitar"
The Boo Radleys, "Jimmy Webb is God"

> 18 "Goes to show that you can't come and go as you please"
Warren Zevon, "Lord Byron's Luggage"

*removed most references grabbed from Wikipedia again*

Anke
Re: {I} Twenty questions, a themed lyrics quiz [message #260827 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 21:44
sphira9343  
Peter Davies wrote:

> 4. "Skinima Nosebreak, Fatima Toothpaste, Penelope Cheapskate, Claudia
> Farmgate."
> (heh!)

"Now the line forms round the corner, now that Mac Heath's back in
town!"

Okay, I know it's not that... *g*
CCA
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